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Mike Florio and Charean Williams discuss how the Vikings acquired an additional first-round pick for the purpose of packaging it and moving up, as well as how there will be stiff QB competition in Round 1. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #MinnesotaVikings
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@kevinbosley172
@kevinbosley172 Ай бұрын
The Vikes need to stick and pick! Don’t overspend!
@michaelehlert9
@michaelehlert9 Ай бұрын
The insurance is having two first round picks if no one agrees to trade with them
@mgtow-balance3409
@mgtow-balance3409 Ай бұрын
if they DON'T draft a QB, i would go IOL at 11 and DE at 23. if they DON'T trade up, but still go QB, i would take the QB at 11, then go IOL at 23
@ebw343
@ebw343 Ай бұрын
Yeah, Florio got it backwards.
@stefanpeters7449
@stefanpeters7449 Ай бұрын
Exactly! I think Florio may be starting to lose it…Kwesi is clearly trying to send the message that they are willing to sit and pick 2 first rounders to remove the stench of desperation to move up into the top ten and not got fleeced to do so
@AmandaOfficialWalker
@AmandaOfficialWalker Ай бұрын
Vikings playing poker with their draft picks like pros at a casino! 🃏🏈😂
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe Ай бұрын
I don't know the first thing about being a NFL but I know acting out of desperation is always a bad idea. If I'm the Vikings I would gladly take one of the top 3 pass(Turner, Verse, Latu) rushers at 11 and one of Penix or Nix with the 23th pick before over paying for McCarthy or Maye.
@craigburgess7105
@craigburgess7105 Ай бұрын
Vikings - I have no affiliation- just fade it and dont worry - a QB of these top 5 will drop to your top pick / you wont get the 'top 2' but you will get something you are after
@craigburgess7105
@craigburgess7105 Ай бұрын
23 pick after your 11 gives you a great O/D option - build the team don't stress about an individual (particularly one you wont get unless you had over the keys to the house) - it's a team sport
@patrickayres3217
@patrickayres3217 Ай бұрын
Exactly, talent variance between the number 3 QB and number 5 isn't enough to dump another first round pick.
@mgtow-balance3409
@mgtow-balance3409 Ай бұрын
at 11 there's gonna still be one of the top QBs
@craigburgess7105
@craigburgess7105 Ай бұрын
@@mgtow-balance3409 agreed
@craigburgess7105
@craigburgess7105 Ай бұрын
@@patrickayres3217 agreed
@danielvansteenwyk493
@danielvansteenwyk493 Ай бұрын
No, no, no. They wanted Cousins. But, they didn't want to pay him Mahomes money when he clearly is not and will never be Mahomes
@thangyselfmade7028
@thangyselfmade7028 Ай бұрын
Why do they act like they turned Josh Dobbs into Brock Purdy
@jtmmmm27
@jtmmmm27 Ай бұрын
IKR he flashed then fizzled out the same with the Cards.
@khavyvath22
@khavyvath22 Ай бұрын
He and KOC led the Vikings to a 24-3 win against the saints and Dobbs had like 3 or 4 days to learn the playbook.
@pierrekid
@pierrekid Ай бұрын
Exactly. The way we handled Dobbs is embarrassing. Rodgers and Love get 3-4 years on bench training. We throw a player in to the game THEN bench him. Embarrassing
@punisher5598
@punisher5598 Ай бұрын
@@pierrekidequating Dobbs to either Rodgers or Love is laughable. Dude was never a 1st round pick, played on multiple teams and was never anything special.
@pierrekid
@pierrekid Ай бұрын
@@punisher5598disagree. Even more supporting my point of needed traincsmp. You walked in to that corner. Embarrassing what we did
@mykofreder1682
@mykofreder1682 Ай бұрын
It depends on the what the Patriots do, I can't see them passing on their guy if they are going QB and picking another Jones at 11. If the Patriots don't go QB and you deal with the next 2 teams who will not take QB when they are on the clock. The Giants are in a better position if they want to trade up because the team probably gets the same guy at their position while 11 is beyond the premium players.
@zanehuseth8621
@zanehuseth8621 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure that's entirely right, the odds of hitting a star or all pro is only slightly lower in the 20s but the salaries of the players and 5th year options are much much cheaper so there's a statistical argument that picks in the 20 are the most valuable.
@ragnar4163
@ragnar4163 Ай бұрын
Keep picks get best on board at that pick QB and run stopper DT. Sam will work.#9 will fall to u.
@Ozzie-in-CT
@Ozzie-in-CT Ай бұрын
Shefter reported that the Texans initiated the trade that resulted in the 23 pick for Vikings. Vikings are not really interested overpaying to get a QB.
@kevinkarsnia109
@kevinkarsnia109 Ай бұрын
Vikings aren’t desperate. Kwesi said they have a walk away price. I think they’d pay a high price for their guy though. Nobody’s giving a deal away no matter what so Harbaugh would ask for what he wants no matter what team is asking.
@michaeldailey7103
@michaeldailey7103 Ай бұрын
I love seeing/hearing Cherean on the show !!!
@jaredpribyl
@jaredpribyl Ай бұрын
Makes no difference if those teams try and “press the thumb”. Vikings are only going to give them what they are willing to give them. The top teams could easily lose out on 3 first round picks if they try to press too hard. Then who’s really losing…the team that pressed too hard, not the Vikes, bc they can just grab Penix
@coreyjohnson5131
@coreyjohnson5131 Ай бұрын
Talking in complete circles…
@crediblecommenterr
@crediblecommenterr Ай бұрын
Vikes are in good hands
@user-mw4fp9zz2x
@user-mw4fp9zz2x Ай бұрын
Who is this lady? Vikings let Kirk walk? 100M guaranteed on a 4 year 180 M contract? No way you're matching that! Especially, for a QB with 1 career playoff win and who is 16-37 vs winning teams.
@romain8390
@romain8390 Ай бұрын
… So therefore, they “let him walk”. They let him walk in as a Vikings fan, it was the right move.
@romain8390
@romain8390 Ай бұрын
She said it right
@longtyler48
@longtyler48 Ай бұрын
As a Bears fan (ready for your downfall as well as the rest of the NFCN) they should 100% just draft with those 2 1sts and build the team rn. You’re only getting McCarthy and the strikes me as Zach Wilson 2.0. They could build the trenches (hopefully not replace Hunter) and contend in 2 years.
@Nater9-9
@Nater9-9 Ай бұрын
Unless they’re shooting for Penix or Nix…Vikings will 100% be trying to trade up.
@Jakery1057
@Jakery1057 Ай бұрын
Maye Daniels and Williams will be out of reach. They'll have to settle for JJ. If Washington takes Maye that will better their chances to move up.
@henrywallacesghost5883
@henrywallacesghost5883 Ай бұрын
I think they should go with Penix unless one of the other top 4 fall to you at 11.
@edwardlamar3650
@edwardlamar3650 Ай бұрын
Vikings will be at the bottom of the NFC North
@DAY1K_
@DAY1K_ Ай бұрын
You gone need the best insurance in the world if you draft McCarthy.
@achernarpolis8842
@achernarpolis8842 Ай бұрын
“across all 4”???
@danturley6250
@danturley6250 Ай бұрын
Why can’t the qb whisperer do it with Jaron hall he got concussed early game one and got thrown in with no game plan for him and an injured o line. If Mullens can be a little more careful with the ball he’s probly better than darnald
@anthonyleydens
@anthonyleydens Ай бұрын
I want penix at 11 or slight trade up. Then bpa at 23
@pierrekid
@pierrekid Ай бұрын
Heck yes ❤
@vikinglobo2415
@vikinglobo2415 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be mad if it ended up that way.
@Bainer744
@Bainer744 Ай бұрын
Mike trying to give the Vikings an idea
@dodu8281
@dodu8281 Ай бұрын
now all the teams know for sure the the vikes will take a qb. brilliant..., price will be even higher now. better to do it during the draft .... dont show up your cards.....
@Torso6131
@Torso6131 Ай бұрын
Any team in their right mind would assume they were doing that though. Nobody believes the plan is to roll with Jaren Hall or Sam Darnold long term in a year where there are so many projected first round QBs and where it appears next year is going to be void of them.
@JohnAC4
@JohnAC4 Ай бұрын
It wasn’t a secret they’re taking a QB. The question is which one
@wonderming1
@wonderming1 Ай бұрын
No college QB is worth betting the farm no matter the stats, and the Vikings aren't going to bet the farm on any QB. They have the fundamentals in place to develop a good QB without spending too much, and that's what they will do.
@ArmorOfZeus
@ArmorOfZeus Ай бұрын
Lol wat. They showed their cards the moment they acquired another first round pick.
@jaredpribyl
@jaredpribyl Ай бұрын
Florio ur hyping up KOC wayyy too much as being able to get the most out of any QB…he ruined Dobbs by trying to make him a Kirk Cousins. Dobbs was balling out before KOC started getting more time with him…
@georgeryanjr.776
@georgeryanjr.776 Ай бұрын
The Vikings should give the Patriots 5 first rounders to move up
@tweachiemercer1589
@tweachiemercer1589 Ай бұрын
I hope that is sarcasm
@curtwoods6278
@curtwoods6278 Ай бұрын
Not hard, my bad!
@artvandelay8090
@artvandelay8090 Ай бұрын
Kwazy Adumbo-Mentah talks about putting a team around a QB, but he's flatly refused to make any kind of serious commitment to improving this terrible interior offensive line. Bradbury sucks, he's kept him there for years. All of the guards have sucked and he goes out looking for waived or cut leftovers from other teams.
@jtmmmm27
@jtmmmm27 Ай бұрын
Hes just buying time knowing their screwed without Cousins.
@stefaniesmith6010
@stefaniesmith6010 Ай бұрын
No. They aren’t. Kirk was no kind of savior they let him go for several reasons.
@docholliday6285
@docholliday6285 Ай бұрын
You in high school?
@user-iq6cc3df3l
@user-iq6cc3df3l Ай бұрын
Well, you could go your whole life without being in a car accident. Or you could be either a coach or a player on the Chiefs and get in accidents all the time.
@CamberRockerCamber
@CamberRockerCamber Ай бұрын
Jim Harbaugh's revenge is fooling the Vikings into trading 3 first round picks for JJ McCarthy. Harbaugh knows McCarthy ain't that guy but he sure is going to sell it. Loved McCarthy so much he chose to call run plays 99% of the time in Michigan.
@kylesessing1671
@kylesessing1671 Ай бұрын
99%?
@Fourwedge
@Fourwedge Ай бұрын
More vikings talk! 😅😂
@richardbeucler6425
@richardbeucler6425 Ай бұрын
She a Target lady?
@troth.
@troth. Ай бұрын
Brad Holmes OWNS Kwesi
@theprodigyofrock
@theprodigyofrock Ай бұрын
This is facts Brad Holmes is the best in the north
@ricklong3260
@ricklong3260 Ай бұрын
26 year old Sam Darnold has not reached his cieling....he will do well with the offensive talent .he hasn't reached his cieling, Vikings can win with swingin' Sam..❤..skol
@Outroyal
@Outroyal Ай бұрын
Lmfao
@brandonwilson4740
@brandonwilson4740 Ай бұрын
I was on board until you called him "swingin sam"
@M5oiugyg
@M5oiugyg Ай бұрын
Yes Mike , that failed hc from the commanders has went to a Superbowl , and lead the cowboys defense to be elite what has oconnell whos gotten fired from Washington done . That Failed offensive coordinator kliff you mention , the one who’s worked with Patrick mahomes , baker mayfield, case keenum, Johnny manziel , Caleb Williams … Man what rookie quarterback wants to work him and Anthony Lynn from the chargers who worked with Herbert ? Isn’t Dan Quinn 15-3 in the nfc East that head coach ? The team with the new owner who owns the devils , 76ers who knows how to win oh That one ? Didn’t they hire spielman this off-season to lead the coach search and give opinions wasn’t he with the Vikings ? I would Hate to play for one of the richest owners in the league absolutely hate it. They have six picks in the top 100! Added a cow Ton of players this off-season to set up there rookie while still having the most cap left in the nfl . Stop acting like the Vikings are not an average team that’s above some random years
@erickambriz7557
@erickambriz7557 Ай бұрын
The fact you think he’ll read this is hilarious
@M5oiugyg
@M5oiugyg Ай бұрын
@@erickambriz7557 the fact you read it lol 💀💀💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jonjuneau6199
@jonjuneau6199 Ай бұрын
guys hair has evolved... girls hair still looks like the 80's 🤷‍♂
@MarkTuttle-up7qt
@MarkTuttle-up7qt Ай бұрын
The NFL should make the falcons and Vikings trade their 8th pick for the 23rd pick. A punishment for bad behavior HAS TO BE A PUNISHMENT!!! It has to sting around the league so people stop doing it
@andrebailey6676
@andrebailey6676 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@justineld4905
@justineld4905 Ай бұрын
I think Florio is actually incorrect about who has the leverage in a potential trade with the Chargers. Sure, Harbaugh is probably a little pissed the Vikings didn't just hand him the job 2 years ago. But think about all that's happened since then. He's won a National Championship and is now the head coach of a team in the other conference. Recency bias and self preservation are strong human instincts. Here are my two reasons why the Vikings actually have some decent leverage: First, Harbaugh will want his guy, his QB, McCarthy, to go to the best situation, which is definitely the Vikings. And second, if he doesn't "let" the Vikings get McCarthy at 5 , then there's a high chance of either the Broncos or the Raiders trading up to get him just a few picks later. There's no way Harbaugh would let JJ go to his division rivals! Now of course if McCarthy is somehow picked at 2 or 3 and it's, say, Drake Maye teams are trying to trade up for at pick 5....forget it. Harbaugh will demand ALL the picks to trade up.
@andrebailey6676
@andrebailey6676 Ай бұрын
Jim harbaugh's not going to get a bunch of pics he might get two first round and a first round next year and that's it
@BeastAsMyself
@BeastAsMyself Ай бұрын
Brutal state the obvious guest. Say something original!
@peterg5375
@peterg5375 Ай бұрын
Well, this lady really knows what she’s talking about
@ThePolishman87
@ThePolishman87 Ай бұрын
😂 I know right
@oz8063
@oz8063 Ай бұрын
Jim Harbaugh should thank the vikings for not hiring. Otherwise, the Michigan Wolverines wouldn't win the National Championship.
@michaeltran5632
@michaeltran5632 Ай бұрын
Vikings won't get shit from the Falcons.
@user-iq6cc3df3l
@user-iq6cc3df3l Ай бұрын
The NFL will go to full-time flag rules before the Vikings win a Super Bowl. Bank it.
@DJWillyGMPLS
@DJWillyGMPLS Ай бұрын
The prize is drake
@user-iq6cc3df3l
@user-iq6cc3df3l Ай бұрын
Drake throws ducks. Makes sense based upon his name.
@dkHI186
@dkHI186 Ай бұрын
Drake a bust
@jakewettengel7708
@jakewettengel7708 Ай бұрын
this gm has no idea in what he is doing. He is to aggressive, and says he is just picking a qb out of a hat
@Jakery1057
@Jakery1057 Ай бұрын
Since when the heck is O'Connell some QB and offensive guru???? Ridiculous hot takes.
@cain6981
@cain6981 Ай бұрын
It is known
@TheChillee
@TheChillee Ай бұрын
Sitting on current picks will get Kwesi fired by the Wilfs … they have basically told Kwesi to get a generational pick and don’t act like native Minnesotans and stand pat for safe picks and avoid “overpaying.” It really is “ No guts, no glory.” You want to win. You have to take the risk and be prepared to lose sometimes… but Vikings fans, you are losing all the time (04 Super Bowls) anyways. Go ahead, be safe. Pick some potential-less corpse like Penix or Nix (or worse, Rattler) at 11 and some mediocre CB (to join the others we drafted a three two+ years ago) and perpetuate the cycle of sports failure to Minnesota sports teams (not named Vikings or Lynx).
@theprodigyofrock
@theprodigyofrock Ай бұрын
It’s funny that you think you know what these teams are thinking , do you know the wilfs lol?
@jtmmmm27
@jtmmmm27 Ай бұрын
How can Florio be so naive to say O'connell can get gold out of any of the rookies? If thats the case they should have thrown everything at Russell Wilson.
@JohnAC4
@JohnAC4 Ай бұрын
Because Russell Wilson is 36?
@josephbalinski
@josephbalinski Ай бұрын
He's just a delusional Vikings homer who's losing most of his objectivity
@tue1981
@tue1981 Ай бұрын
I see it as the players around the new qb and the coaching and staff and system - you have to be the outlier to fail in the Vs system … it does happen, see Trey Lance, but it’s rare It happens often on woebegone franchises that have a poor or stingy owner and a HC that is dismissive of the offense and has a poor roster (Jets in the past)
@Izthefaithful
@Izthefaithful Ай бұрын
I don’t know. He’s gotten the best out of every qb on the roster. Kirk, Mullens, Dobbs all played the best they’ve played while he was coach
@shwazooom
@shwazooom Ай бұрын
Wilson doesn’t play the style of qb they want, he doesn’t thrive playing in structure nor throwing over the middle
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