Chris Simms on Deshaun Watson's play: 'The magic is gone' | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

[@SecondWindStories]

Both Baker Mayfield and the Texan won this Cleveland Browns trade. 😂

[@Lawrence-sk8tt]

What has Faker won? I’ll wait. Lmao 😂

[@eliotoledo7980]

@@Lawrence-sk8ttanother playoff game

[@Lawrence-sk8tt]

@@eliotoledo7980 garbage

[@carlfrye1566]

Baker was the perfect QB for Cleveland. Hard working blue collar never give up.

[@reneewilliams5777]

​@@Lawrence-sk8tt Exactly Another playoff game, and a new contract as a starter for a team that wants him

[@terrykendrick8025]

Quit calling this trade awful…as a Texans fan, we thought it was the bomb

[@Broncos18]

Rebuilt the team with those picks

[@mikemiller8430]

I think it's the second biggest robbery in training ever. An amazingly Texas teams were on the winning end of both

[@Texansfan59]

We fleeced the doodo browns 😂

[@oskinooa]

Yea texans got them foos 😂

[@AnEyeRacky]

You were bound to get one go your way after the Tunsil trade with ol' Billy at the helm lol

[@carls.2649]

As a devoted Browns fan going back to Brian Sipe's Cardiac Kids, I look forward to the day Watson is gone so I can once again root for them as I did. It's so bad, I'm actually happy for Baker's success in Tampa!

[@fjleone2169]

Ditto!

[@RomeeRaven]

As a Ravens fan, I look forward to that day also! Maybe then I can finally concentrate most of my energy cursing the Steelers again, as it should be! ;)

[@cocogarcia1454]

100%!

[@joeshmoe4671]

@@RomeeRaven As a Steeler fan, I agree. Eff the Ravens and the Browns ; )

[@theoneonly2406]

Same bro, I love Baker. He played with such passion, really helped dig us out the 1-31 hole. I'm happy he got another chance to shine, I still love watching him.

[@scottsodyssey2485]

Baker is having a wonderful Monday morning in Tampa.

[@jo0123]

One game, let’s calm down, so did Derek Carr.

[@jordanjmdjmd74]

​@@jo0123Carr has always been ok. I don't think anything in week 1 was different than the past

[@scottsodyssey2485]

@@jo0123 Any real Browns fan would go back in time and keep Baker over Watson.

[@diehardeaglesfansince1994]

​@@scottsodyssey2485that's not saying much

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Only the Browns could jettison a QB out of there only to bring in a worse QB where they have to give up a boatload of draft picks and sign him to contract that paralyzes the team lol NE would take a 6th rounder for Brisset and dollar for dollar that's a huge upgrade at QB if the Browns had no one.

[@anthonyplanzo1082]

He just looks soulless on and off the field. You can see it in his eyes and body language. Hes done. Period.

[@UHSftball54]

100%!!

[@obi2fred]

He is pretty soulless as a human so it makes sense

[@pete6705]

Man, if Deshaun doesn’t get better, this sets the Browns back for years. They’re stuck with him until 2027, they lost their first round picks, they’ll need to find a new QB which is not easy. By the time Deshaun is gone a lot of good Browns players will probably be gone too. This could put them back to complete 5 year rebuild that doesn’t even start until 2027.

[@johnsix1749]

Haslam says this a decade decision, they won;t ever walk away because this is Haslam's pick. He is now 0-2 when it comes to choosing a QB, 0-3 if you count dumping Baker who is going to the playoffs again this year.

[@SladeBling]

They can, and will, dump DeShaun after the 2025 season because it won't be a huge cap hit.

[@andybales7318]

It's already starting & Baker is laughinggggg 😂

[@Broncos18]

@@pete6705 This could be another 10 year setback for them

[@johnsix1749]

@@SladeBling his cap limit keeps going up because they are adding defer years. it is like 76 million this year and over 90 mil next year.

[@laxmannate07]

Dudes confidence is shot. Massive contract plus he knows that pretty much everyone hates him.

[@wiseowl7336]

​@@softjones3128 😂😂😂

[@Ysoserious1]

It's probably 50/50 cause you got some people that call bs on that me too 💩

[@laxmannate07]

@@softjones3128 😂

[@johaw105]

Seems more like he lives in an echo chamber where he actually believes everyone loves him and he has done nothing wrong

[@andybales7318]

Poor guy, I'd hate getting 230 mil too

[@bk7064]

Even is Watson does play like his old self, I will never feel as special towards this team as I did watching Baker, Chubb, and Landry taking on the Chiefs in the Divisional round of the 2020 playoffs. That team, although "less talented" was so special and fun to watch and we threw that magic away. 😪 Honestly it hurts so much thinking about it. I'm just happy I knew to enjoy it while it lasted.

[@Berlography]

💯

[@BloodofEli]

That was the only year they had a chance with that team.. landry was on the downside, Chubb blew his knee out again. No way that team would have been a contender after that season

[@JeffreyGlover65]

Exactly!

[@bassman8144]

Intimidating a professional NFL defense is a tad harder than intimidating a masseuse.

[@anthonypa8045]

Watson has been trash last 3 years! On sunday Deshaun 53% 169 yards 1 td 2 int 55 rating. Baker 80% 289 yards 4 td 0 int 146 rating. Baker is clearly the better qn now and has been since the trade. Berry made a huge mistake.

[@robertrobinsonblakktarsemi2938]

Baker sukd during the trade,horribly, but he is better now

[@karenhardie1132]

He doesn't care. He got his bag. He can retire very wealthy. Cleveland blew that trade. 😢

[@thestarisalie]

That's literally why he went to Cleveland. He laughed at cleveland and was gonna go to atl and then cleveland did this.

[@talldreamyopposum]

​@@thestarisalie never go full browns

[@thestarisalie]

@@talldreamyopposum Never go full b l a c k at qb.

[@tqlla]

They traded 3 firsts, 2 fourths, 1 third, gave away Baker, and paid $230M guaranteed to Watson. Baker is the guy that went to an 0-16 team and lead them to the playoffs in his third year. That one playoff win, was the only playoff win the Browns has had since 1995

[@15SilverSurfer15]

The year baker was born and he wasn’t even born at the time they won it crazy work🤣🤣🤣

[@tArchStantont]

Baker was garbage at that time. He was barely an NFL player and was lucky to get that Carolina contract. He was not going to figure it out in Cleveland.

[@15SilverSurfer15]

@@tArchStantont yea bro was hurt but hey at least Deshaun Watson an upgrade I’m mean yall upgraded his life to produce less than what bakers done for yall🤣🤣🤣

[@tqlla]

@@tArchStantont Baker played with a shoulder injury his last year with the Browns. How have the Browns been with Watson under center?

[@JuanMartinez-xf3uz]

I never thought we'd see a worse trade than Cutler to Chicago, but this one managed to even outdo it.

[@dreadbull5039]

Great point by Chris…”They called the game like they don’t trust him”. That’s exactly right. You could also say they called the game like it’s his first preseason appearance.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I didn’t watch a lot of the game (I was watching Red Zone), but I noticed the same thing. It looked like they were calling plays you’d call in practice or something.

[@JetFire9]

They actually saw him in practice. They knew.

[@JayCreationsDev]

not many people trust him tbf

[@stephenjohnson3337]

Dolphins fan here! The media ripped the Dolphins for not taking this guy! Who’s laughing now?

[@lottji]

The magic has been gone since the allegations 💀

[@excaliburofthelevant5750]

You can clearly see his shoulder is damaged

[@lottji]

@@excaliburofthelevant5750 cope harder

[@jpmartin2312]

No more happy endings 😢

[@SecondWindStories]

The allegations had 0 effect on me personally, as everyone is innocent until proven guilty. This trade itself was stupid across the board. The value that they were letting go (Baker) and replacing him with (A D. Watson that was already out of the league for a year) didn't make any sense unless they literally made a SB appearance at minimum. The Cleveland Clowns deserves every bit of this. The fans unfortunately do not.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

@@excaliburofthelevant5750 how long does it take to get your shoulder healthy? dude took like 2 years off.

[@Jim-bq5do]

The magic ain't the only thing gone. So are the happy endings! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@801rbd]

Here's a thought. . . Baker Mayfield: 23 for 29, 247 Yards, 4 Touchdowns, ZERO Interceptions against Commanders. Great Deal Jimmy Haslam!

[@MarkJones-rl9ph]

vs a 31st ranked defense...he had 2 wins last year vs teams with winning records...is he better than DW right now yes...but he's not a HOF QB...AB took a shot on what he thought was a top 5 QB, and missed...Check out Baker's stats down a score with less than two minutes to go...he's a front runner who always throws the killer pick...yes, this trade looks terrible now, but staying with just, an OK QB, wasn't good for me either...there were a lot of teams who wanted Watson, so, it's just not The Browns...

[@johnsix1749]

@@MarkJones-rl9ph AB only did what Haslam told him to do. This is 100% haslam's pick just like Johnny Manziel was haslam's pick.

[@Lawrence-sk8tt]

Here’s a thought. Faker has won nothing

[@darylfoster7944]

Baker is destroyed under that pass rush.

[@bipedalcanine]

Mayfield definitely looked good lol

[@ARNM55-l9v]

Is Flaco still available???

[@frederickrapp5396]

No. Absolutely not.

[@johncurran6031]

The Browns need a new owner as much as they need a new QB. The owner wanted Watson and he got what he paid for. Watson is not worth 4 million a year, to say nothing of $46 million.

[@calbraid3328]

I agree. You'd have to be nuts to take a coaching job with that franchise.

[@dwightbrown]

Watching the game I noticed those 'dead eyes' on Watson.

[@MichaelSmith-uy4ui]

I always say that to the people I’m with. Dead eyes. You can tell his spirit is gone empty

[@chenzomutumbo9140]

​@MichaelSmith-uy4ui what are you doing to the people in your life that you consistently notice that they don't have life in their eyes...

[@talldreamyopposum]

​@@chenzomutumbo9140dude is a predator and you think people wont notice his soulless eyes???? 🫵😅 imagine defending this creep

[@tesilab994]

Really Chris? "Everybody looking at him [Deshaun Watson] weird because of what **happened to him**". What happened to HIM? Nothing happened to him--he did it to himself.

[@josharnoldy6833]

You’re reading too deep into his choice of words. He was just trying to keep the pace of the conversation, we all know what he did.

[@beadyone85]

The majority of people knew what he meant. Clearly wasn't being sympathetic to deshaun and his allegations back in 2020. As Aaron Rodgers says R-E-L-A-X

[@jo0123]

Even when he was in Houston, he used to play good against bad teams and struggle against quality teams. Texans won 4 games with him at QB in his last season with them.

[@diehardeaglesfansince1994]

he was a beast in Houston. let's not change history

[@jeremytaft8247]

Yes after trading away every other star and firing their coach. That alone don’t end up well for teams.

[@Ballin-97]

I think people also overlook that Watson took tons of sacks in Houston and was always bottom 5 in the nfl. He is a qb that gets sacked easily. Shallow passing stats look great if you take sacks at a higher rate instead of trying to make a play that might risk incompletions or interceptions and worsen your passer rating. His passing stats did not tell the whole story about his play

[@demondwilson8674]

Literally had his best statistical season when we won 6 games and less help.

[@kevinerbs2778]

​​@@diehardeaglesfansince1994 with DHOP

[@lotzi1182]

The worst part of the whole Watson trade, besides his poor play, is that he's never once admitted to doing anything wrong in Houston. Regardless of the suspensions where the NFL confirmed that he did all the things he was accused of, he still tries to act like that never happened. I think having to dance around the reality of what's happening to him is why he'll never be the player he was in Houston.

[@Reglar_Cat]

Yeah - Not owning up to it makes the situation worse. It's why "everyone" hates him, not ~ 50% of everyone.

[@Mehmet_305]

Nick Caserio deserves a freaking statue at the facility for this trade

[@TomReichner]

Deshaun is not just a broken quarterback; he is a broken human being. I believe that this is because he never acknowledged his wrongdoing. He continues to deny that all those things he did were heinous and disgusting. When he finally admits that those things he did were so very wrong, and that he terribly damaged a bunch of fine young women, only then will he be able to get past the consequences of the evil that he committed. When he finally takes true responsibility, it will be freeing for him.

[@livingstone1974]

how do you know what he's done. he definitely don't owe you anything. you wilding bruh that's not how life works. DW is bad because he is just bad rn

[@livingstone1974]

he is making alot of money to be bad so he gone be alright. whatever he did has nothing to do with you dude go fix your own heart

[@TomReichner]

@@livingstone1974 why do people always come to the defense of others who have fallen short of their potential, or done wrong things? We need to hold professional athletes to very high standards and not let them get away without criticism when they fall short

[@livingstone1974]

@@TomReichner who is people?why do people always say why do *people"? You see how that works? Take your emotions out and see what's really going on. Nobody is defending DW. The theory of the comment is being challenged. Know the difference

[@FortFinesse007]

@@TomReichner he’s defending that those allegations never went anywhere, so you can’t really say anything about it, he said hes bad lmao

[@legitdragon6202]

Are Browns fans done being in denial about this awful trade? 😅

[@HomeDefender30]

As a browns fan I called exactly how this would play out the minute we traded for him… I have documented video proof as well…. We aren’t all delusional.

[@DaddyLongLegs580]

We never were, the front office was and continues to be.

[@iloveyoumadhuri]

Not completely.

[@zachbush7923]

As a Browns fan I wanted us to keep Baker.

[@pairashootpants5373]

​@HomeDefender30 good think you documented it! Sorry bro, it really is a messed up situation for the fans most of all. I'm a Pittsburgh fan and even I feel bad for thr Browns fan base.

[@Tony-k9i]

DeShawn "can somebody give me a hand" Watson

[@tyroilsmoochie-wallace]

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[@mat.356]

💀

[@randallfrykberg1262]

This won't have a happy ending.

[@Steve-q6k]

Don't forget to bring a towel.

[@redsoxownyou9737]

when they first showed Deshaun on camera during the pregame, he already had that defeated look in his eye. dude looks lost

[@MichaelSmith-uy4ui]

He looks lost. Like I feel he wants to just ride out 2 years and drift into being over rich for the rest of his life. He doesn’t have that look. Remember baker mayfields look? Dude is confident and driven and looks right into the camera

[@eternal_napalm6442]

Serves them right for how they treated Mayfield. The dude was playing hurt, trying to will his team to wins but they tossed him under the bus.

[@SUPERMAN3309]

💯 percent correct

[@davidwelsh8026]

That is for sure, Baker has heart.

[@Happy-zk5nr]

Browns fans deserve better

[@Framedisbadatrs]

No they don’t

[@Akronkangaroo]

One of the worst fanbases in sports. LeBron shouldn't have came back either 😂😂

[@rdspam]

Naaaah.

[@Dr._Wan___PharmD]

Baker: Does Cleveland miss me now??? Watson is beyond trash!

[@anthonypa8045]

Facts

[@christophermeyers]

Most of us didn't want to get rid of Baker. Blame the ownership and front office for this debacle.

[@chesscomsupport8689]

The guy has been mostly off the field for the past 3 years due to a combination of different reasons. I'd like to see him play a few more games before reaching any kind of verdict on him.

[@afridgetoofar1818]

Bring back Tyrod Taylor!

[@bipedalcanine]

Trash franchise

[@zacharyfett2491]

You media clowns built Watson up into something he wasn’t. IF he was even half the player you guys pretended he was, the Texans would have kept him. Ask Texans’ fans how they felt about the guy before he left…………

[@MEGR7]

Something Chris Simms is actually qualified to talk about - bad QB play.

[@StephenNatoli-l6j]

Says the loser who couldn't even play high school football, making your opinions invalid based on your own logic

[@rdspam]

@@StephenNatoli-l6j Says the successful NFL QB, right? That you, Peyton?

[@70bluesville]

How are the Texans doing? Full of character and integrity!!!

[@robdoesweather6758]

As a browns fan, I have been done with Deshaun for a while but it’s 100% now. He doesn’t have “it” anymore. He’s not the same guy. This team will be mid this year and suck for at least 2 more years while they try to rebuild after losing all those picks and paying all that money for nothing. Were going to be the same old browns for a while with zero playoff hopes

[@davidwelsh8026]

I agree

[@Corbanw]

Thumbs up if you want Jameis Winston to start next week.

[@ggates5371]

I don’t know. He was solid against Baltimore in Baltimore last year, just before the injury. This could be the result of no preseason play. I’m hoping for the best but prepared for the worst.

[@PettyPete]

Game had no happy ending for Watson…Lmfaoooooo

[@ck1011Original]

I feel bad for Brown's fans. They can't even be the lovable losers anymore because of what the front office did. I can't feel any sympathy for the brows as long as Watson is on the team. The way they structured his contract so he would have almost no financial consequences for the suspension they knew he would get.

[@Mehmet_305]

Browns should cut him after this season and start all over again, swallow your pride and accept the worst trade of all time.

[@matthewfoor4487]

They should have cut him at halftime last night. LoL

[@SaltySouthTexan]

That’s be a 120,000,000 cap hit ….not gonna happen

[@unmeshkhadilkar306]

"What happened to him" - oh dear Chris!!!!!! WOW!!!

[@sadamoneal1816]

Florio used to play with his hair in high school

[@davidmitchell6873]

As a long time Steelers fan I find this absolutely hysterical. Any semi knowledgeable fan could see this coming a mile away.

[@johnsix1749]

and yet, people still believe watson is "special" The only special is the punk is a multimillionaire now.

[@tylercrittenden4196]

Steelers tried to trade for him lmao

[@OTGEEZY]

Both him and Russ got traded and played pretty bad yet Russ got all the hate and not Watson this world makes no sense.

[@rdspam]

@@OTGEEZY Watson gets plenty of well-deserved hate.

[@OTGEEZY]

@@rdspam Yah but at that time Russ was #1 hated

[@jamessnee7171]

These athletes are the best of the best. If one loses a millisecond, a step, drop a pass or miss a throw... you're out of the league. Got to keep that razor edge sharp.

[@briananderson9650]

That’s the crazy thing to give up those four first rounders the Browns have still somehow ended up pretty good. Think if they would’ve had those first four first round picks.

[@jonharwood1639]

I have to say i love this. The fact that they traded for him knowing those allegations means im not rooting for them anymore.

[@seano79]

I dont care about Cleveland but I bet Jameis Winton could win some games with that team.

[@Th4t_guy_]

Broncos fans, I know Bo Nix will have some growing pains. I know our O line is overpaid. I know our defense is young and I still hate our D coordinator. I know we're paying 80 mil for someone to not play for us. But we're not in Cleveland's shoes, and I'm grateful.

[@2500BC]

Baker probably needed that year of being released 2-3 times. He was already saying he didnt want to re-sign in CLE when they made the move for Watson. Who is not playing well. I miss Flacco because he showed the offense’s capabilities like sunlight over a dark room

[@jaalsburg]

Every time he looks at his bank account he gets a spark in his eye.

[@velder22]

I don't feel bad for the Browns or the coaches they could have kept Baker, they treated Baker so bad that it made me a fan

[@studmuffin1217]

Without his athletic running he has to rely on his accuracy in the pocket which is not his forte.

[@infinity2z3r07]

my fantasy team name is "give deshaun a hand!!" and the team logo is the hotdog in a bun 🤣🤣🤪

[@spencerme3486]

Here’s the rub

[@Syst3m04]

What this really comes down to is Browns coaching. When running Stefanskis offense last year, every QB including Watson found success. They have fully switched to Droseys offense, and it isn’t working so far. They did the same to Baker, you have to work with what you got, and they have shown for decades they are incapable of doing so.

[@kevinhurst3709]

Momma always said make your bed you gotta sleep in it.

[@wwz1011]

Browns were only missing ONE starting tackle. Dewand Jones is the RT starter. If you are going to have a bag full of issues, you better be a top notch player. Right now, Deshaun just the the issues.

[@geraldtn3175]

The watson disaster is hilarious. Absolutely hilarious 🤣

[@josephschmidt2183]

I never understood why they gave us on Baker so quickly.

[@scanner743]

Deshaun Watson is still great with talent beyond this world and has played on Super Bowl level and just need some great old fashioned Houston like hand jobs

[@ericscottstevens]

TB has honed an offense that suits Mayfield. It is not pretty but he can manage it and make it run. Cleveland could not comprehend what to do with him.

[@JoeG-g1w]

It’s all because Garrett didn’t want baker on the team anymore they don’t wanna talk about that tho

[@mourka01]

No trade backs

[@conan59er15]

He finally had one half of football last season where he didn't have the YIPS, then immediately got hurt. Now neither he nor the club has the patience for him to rebuild his confidence AGAIN.

[@westcoastflyers144]

Browns deserve all of this. Trading 3 1st rounders and giving him all that guaranteed money after all we know about him, is just grotesque.

[@DougWright-o3x]

He gonna need magic with that offensive line

[@ranma36]

Last time we saw Deshaun he had one of his best games ever against an elite team… yesterday the O-Line looked like JV vs the Varsity! None of the Browns offensive players played well. Flush the game tape and get ready for next week.

[@eliezerruiz4447]

Everything happen in Houston ? Not Cleveland ? Blame Houston they let it happen ? A Browns fan since 1967.

[@mariogutierrez6960]

Watson’s magic all got rubbed off

[@dskinner8757]

He left the magic on the massage table 😂

[@johnsix1749]

Watson has an excuse every game for why he sucks. Hopefully after Johnny Manzeil and now Watson Haslam will never "pick" another player. I kept telling everyone that Watsons best season his team was 4-12, a fact no reporter seems to remember. Meanwhile the average QB they dumped had a QB rating of 146 compared to watson's 50

[@matthewwalsh2404]

I’m not a big Baker Mayfield fan but what the Browns did to him was completely unprofessional. 😊

[@johnsix1749]

@@matthewwalsh2404 Made me a buccaneers fan. I still watch the browns but the defense can't dominate when the offense is going 3 and out every drive. The D was gassed before halftime. It is going to be a long 7-10 year for the browns. Meanwhile the Buccaneers will be in the playoffs again.

[@reedspace8267]

Deshaun Watson is truly the Holy Grail of quarterbacks. Ogr course, there was a law recently passed that replaced "gr" with "f" in the alphabet and vice versa.

[@user-jpwiremans1575]

I would trade him straight up for Flacco and pay 75% of his salary. and that team would just hang up the phone.

[@sparkymcplug3765]

Hey Chris, tell us again how Jacksonville was going to beat Miami.

[@scotte2177]

Yeah that great Miami offense didn't have subzero temperatures to blame and put up a whopping 17 points

[@sparkymcplug3765]

@@scotte2177 A win is a win skippy.

[@skyhawks4ever]

Growing up in northeast Ohio I’ve been in Browns fan since I can remember and I’m now 65 years old. Ever since Art left Cleveland for Baltimore and the team was basically restarted as an expansion team, they have been plagued with stupid decisions surrounding a quarterback position. Soon as I heard about this Watson deal, I knew it was a bad idea and I just cringed. Here we go again! You know you would think that a franchise quarterback, such as Tom Brady, for example, Brett Favre, would want to come to Cleveland and play to bring this city a long sought after superbowl win. I can’t think of a better way for a quarterback, to be forever remembered as the quarterback, who ended this long drought for some of the greatest NFL fans ever. All it’s going to take for Cleveland is to find that quarterback, who wants to play for them and bring a championship to their city similar to what LeBron James did for the Cavs. But Cleveland can’t seem to get over this problem. I can’t blame young quarterbacks for wanting to be champions and to have a good chance to make it to the Super Bowl, but I’m just hoping that a franchise quarterback that has already been to the Super Bowl would come to Cleveland and play and get them out of this drought and become immortalized by an entire city forever! The same thing would apply to an already successful coach like Bill Belicheck (sp?) for example. Dee And Jimmy Haslam have got to find a way to change this reputation and or negative image of Cleveland Browns football. Paying Deshaun Watson or any other football player this much money set a very bad precedent for future NFL contracts as we just now saw with Dak Prescott. My opinion, the owners need to get together with the commissioner and find a way to put a cap on these contracts. We’re going to see more and more of this crap and it’s no wonder why it cost so much to be able to watch NFL games and go to actual games nowadays, they have to recoup this ridiculous money somehow and the fans are ultimately paying the price!! Man, I really miss Marty Schottenheimer and Bernie Kosar just a name two 😢. On another sidenote I can’t believe Deshaun Watson had the audacity to show up at a press conference wearing $10,000 bling bracelets and designer diamond stud glasses. This is a slap in the face to Cleveland fans if you ask me.

[@Tojobags8]

Browns just getting what they deserve

[@jacobrodrigues66]

PFT doesn’t need Sims!

[@larryking2698]

it never made sense for the browns to do this trade. they moved off baker because they couldnt deal with the growing pains most young qbs have. I think teams like the falcons, panthers and saints that chased him it actually made some sense for them.

[@thetruth4808]

Kevin Stefanski is a QB killer he takes the ball out the QB hands when they be balling Baker ring a bell

[@HtownT-uw4kd]

I don't think he really wants to play in a city like Cleveland, all money ain't good money, his heart is not in Cleveland

[@MajesticBeard]

It sucks being a Browns fan because we take the brunt of jokes and ridicule when us as fans have 0 to do with the ineptitude of this front office. Really its just the QB situation thats been so horrendous, Berry has been solid everywhere else in the team.

[@nickgoesvestmode]

Texans fans were LAUGHING when the Watson trade happened.

[@IanBillen]

The magic is missing right now, his confidence has taken a major hit .. True and I get it. However if we are talking about this year and taking it in the present ... it is 'ONE' game so far this season Lol. Dallas is a darn good team and he was pretty much thrown to the wolves this game. Let's give him until week five or six until we make our 'final' decision on him. One game against a good team all things considered is much to already be saying it's over for him and he needs to go. Let's give him a handful games to improve and try to get that magic back (or at least a large portion of it). With that said .. this year is his final chance to do something. That much is obvious.

[@OhioIndividual]

It’s not just Watson. Stefanski is the most overrated coach I have ever seen. And Cleveland is missing Callahan, offensive line coach and assistant, who went to Tennessee.

[@JamesBray-qm8gr-q3w]

Browns DESERVE what they get because of how they treated Baker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@afridgetoofar1818]

I live in Cleveland, and am stunned people still pay money to go to these games.

[@claytonn3957]

Same people praising baker now were hating on him when he was in Cleveland lol. Just admit y’all love to hate on the browns and I know Deshaun sucks

[@guitarchique]

U guys are kind! TY us Browns fans have been dumped on & let down for decades so ty! But Argh 😤 That Sucked! Again embarrassed on national TV! How much more must we suffer❗ also, thanks Fox 4 shoving Baker in our face repeatedly‼️. Appreciate it 🤬

[@kueblersnavyinc]

He is 4 years older than he was in Houston when the average NFL player career is 3 years. He has lost a step when new defensive players have gained a step......

[@Brad88ford]

Although he is not in prison, He is inside his own prison. The women he treated bad can watch his downfall slowly and know that those who treat the people like he did will feel pain and agony in embarrassing fashion. Karma!

[@slamin2095]

Best Browns video was the 'factory of sadness'

[@jshumphress13]

It will take me a long time to forgive the Browns for that trade. Texans used that draft capital pretty wisely, and now my Colts have to play them twice per year, every year.

[@iloveyoumadhuri]

I would not be shocked if Cleveland got Bryce Young or Zach Wilson for a bargain to back up Deshaun and then either of those two succeeded him. That's how finished he looks.

[@edalexander6155]

Got a first round pick in 2025 next yr draft your future qb. Have him ready. When the DW4 project is done. Hes going to show signs of top five qb in a few games comeing up. But will come up injured or be suspended. Winston can get us through the rest of the season with the DTR project. Plus look at your defense with no crowd noise they are average at best.

[@Saidakine]

His Shoulder fx on his throwing arm was serious . His Mechanics are off. These next few games will tell the story. When the ball does not go where you want to throw it that alone will hurt your confidence.

[@obito6973]

His dad died 3 days ago man 🤦🏼‍♂️ give him a break

[@jubelraye3782]

He has never dealt with his misdeeds.

[@ericharden6832]

The language in his contract states that he will not forfeit any signing bonuses or guaranteed money with any suspensions.

[@Ranwarner42]

Welcome to Cleveland