NHL: Embellishment Penalties/Fines Part 3

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[@Jens95]

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[@MiddleXBL]

Goals by the person like ovechkin and his one timers#request

[@travislarson148]

Can you do best saucer passes? #Request

[@tcolts0071]

Half of it is embellishment, but then some just looks like the player loses his footing

[@freedy1696]

a lot of it looks like strength differences with younger and older players

[@tcolts0071]

@@freedy1696 could definitely be a factor

[@omjeeo]

Ya like at 1:18 his stick clearly goes between the guy's legs and that's what trips him.

[@brookeweller3622]

Exactly. I would lose my footing in some of these situations too. Like the Heiskanen one, his body was just really far over his feet and whether it was a dive or fall, it was a tedious position. I fall when I’m that unbalanced.

[@alangordon1436]

...because he was hit in the chest. That pretty much defines a dive.

[@adamfoxresurgencebandwagon3234]

That call on Kakko was a terrible call

[@lyfteeng6181]

Most of these calls are bad or at least questionable

[@ChaseSuni]

@@Electrains are you that biased or just blind? 😂😂

[@patrickmcgraw9549]

Facts

[@patrickmcgraw9549]

He couldnt do anything

[@aidan5919]

@@lyfteeng6181 very

[@FrenchFriedFelon]

Request: Best of Hand Eye Coordination or something like that

[@chloeobrien1165]

put #request

[@burgerdad420]

Just all Sidney Crosby

[@nicolechardiet5366]

Or best coordination #request

[@runningthesw5788]

The last one on Kakko might be one of the worst embellishment calls I have ever seen. That ref needs glasses

[@magic_taxes42]

I’m a caps fan and I think dillan is a good player but imma be honest here and say that he tripped the hell out of him lol.

[@sobjw1]

@@magic_taxes42 Even Dillon was shocked that Kakko got a penalty!

[@Eradactyl]

@@sobjw1 no he wasn’t. You can see on 10:48 he mocked him for diving

[@alangordon1436]

He rolled the opposite direction of being clipped. It was definitely a dive.

[@alexe606]

Love how Tkachuk immediately said dive on Stützle. You would know something about diving wouldn’t you Matthew.

[@alexe606]

@@parkerb1970 Where in my statement was I defending the dive? I hate diving. Just thought it was funny that Tkachuk was the one pointing it out

[@MVP.113]

That Kakko "drive"... lmfao, refs big jokers

[@nexus8765]

4:48 looks like a trip from the NHL games

[@louiefriesen]

@@lakesidecardz No

[@atomicwizyt1342]

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[@nexus8765]

@@lakesidecardz begging for subs annoys people and makes them not want to subscribe.

[@nickauns]

I still dont understabd that stutzle "dive" he got a stick between the legs going almost full speed

[@Narxes081206]

Was thinking the same thing

[@bencraig4895]

The last time I Was this early to a Jens95 video, the Sabres still had a playoff chance

[@izzys.3984]

@@lakesidecardz dude shut up stop commenting that on every comment

[@lakesidecardz]

sorry

[@kevinstull8552]

So in other words you've never been this early lol?

[@wagglewiggle]

When did you comment this early last the mid 90s?

[@lionmountain804]

@@wagglewiggle Sabres were dominant until 2008

[@FawtGaming]

That Kakko one is ridiculous, dude got knee’d pretty clearly there

[@LouiHandwerker]

Agreed

[@majorafan09]

He got called for unsportsmanlike conduct, not embellishment, which raises the question of why that clip is in this video...

[@eliaminator2313]

I dont understand how Stutzle got an embellishment call the guy had his stick between his legs

[@trentwhitman2238]

Didnt notice that until you pointed it out, I thought it was a dive too until then.

[@MrCanadianhero]

honestly dive calls should be able to be fought. because some of those were definitely not dives.

[@gabos7892]

i don't play hockey, but i play basketball. is this the same as "flopping"? basically, when a guy touches you, you fall to get the penalty?

[@LuckynworkLuckyDog21]

Yes

[@macmac3374]

Yes only difference is hockey players typically get their ass kicked for doing it when they get out of the box 😂 basketball players are taught to do it 😂

[@christophermusso]

A good majority of these are clearly nothing more than piss-poor officiating. The NHL & NHLOA should be thoroughly embarrassed.

[@Wprice2013]

How about a “Jordan Binnington being a sore loser complication”

[@adamfoxresurgencebandwagon3234]

It would be an hour long

[@commandershepard1838]

How about kucherov and binnington. The video would be over 10 minutes so jens gets the ad rev

[@Jens95]

@@commandershepard1838 That's not how it works. Any ads that appear before, during, and after are placed by the NHL. They own the rights to their own footage and they're not about to let some nobody make money off their clips. Not that I care because I've been doing this for fun the past 4 years.

[@M5r.S5g]

Wish the clips would show more of the player reactions when they recieved the embellishment penalty

[@jamesring862]

you should do biased announcers(not just jack edwards) #Request

[@INFINIEON1]

LMAO Jack Edwards could have an hour long movie of his biased announcing 🤣🤣

[@SpaghettiSilhouette]

@@INFINIEON1 did you not watch this video? Every single announcer is biased. "I didn't see a dive there" - every hometown announcer. BuT EdWaRdS. Get over yourself

[@joeyartichoke7598]

apparently you’re not allowed to fall awkwardly when someone trips you with there stick

[@xxbucajucaxx7426]

Lol you can literally see the stick get stuck between stutzles legs when he goes down. He's skating at almost full speed, like wtf is he supposed to do?

[@Wonkle_]

Not fall lol. It's obviously a tripping penalty but let's give them both penalties because he dove

[@attesavela2442]

there’s like ten just plain tripping penalties called for embellishment. if someone puts his stick between your feet when you’re skating you’re not allowed to fall anymore? I know they’re professionals but cmon

[@Austopsy]

That first one was so blatant lol. Yikes to those casters. You missed both of Nick Foligno's back to back dives against Dallas a few weeks back. It was embarrassing to watch.

[@hoozoohleague8264]

I remember once, they had to send the Habs' dentist to the penalty box. Guy (dont remember who it was) lost like 7teeth and refs called embellishment lmao. When they realized there was blood and chicklets on the ice, give the man a break. He's gonna eat soup for a while, that's enought of a punishment

[@macmac3374]

The only one on here I saw that was compete BS was the kakko one. He got hit with a knee on knee hit. That ref was blind as a bat. It had to of been something he said after the play.

[@tf7274]

Nice work Bambi!

[@adamrodgers9175]

The can opener is highly affective even though it's not allowed. Playing street hockey I did it to a guy and there was nothing he could do to stop it. He was on a break away and I can opener him 😆😆 it's mean, but funny.

[@keeshandave8603]

Me: that's a dive, that's a dive

[@richizzle39]

I love how every call both parties get a penalty but not when it comes to Coots, just the Flyer.

[@paulharrington9859]

How can both go anyway? It's a trip, or It's an embellishment, it can't be both

[@richizzle39]

@@paulharrington9859 I understand this argument and I partially agree, but most of the time there is a penalty and then someone flops to provoke the call, thus they each get a penalty. The question is would the original penalty have been called had the embellishment not been there. In Coots’ case it was not, although objectively the only penalty here is the embellishment call.

[@RoyalMela]

@@paulharrington9859 Of course it can. You trip someone, then it is a trip. Someone getting tripped decides to flop to make it more dramatic, it is an embellishment. The trip does not disappear if the opponent dives. Of course if there is no trip and player still dives, then it is only an embellishment.

[@TheFireminder]

@@RoyalMela Or rather: If there is an original penalty (trip) and the tripped player exaggerates, it's also an embellishment. If there is no original penalty and one player tries to fake a penalty, it's only a dive. (I am a lover of semantics, it is already clear what you meant in your comment.)

[@alanvanasch4793]

I think sometimes they need to call just embellishment. Like in the Tampa/Florida one that should have only been an embellishment call. Obviously in most cases it's both but just get Greg Louganis sometimes

[@RoyalMela]

They do call just embellishment if there is no foul to cause the fall. In almost all the cased there is a trip, hook or holding, and other players decides to add cream on top. Two fouls, two penalties.

[@markjohnson3413]

2:37 ok I have no balance on ice, but how is that embellishment?? He was straight up tripped

[@msprod.9917]

[@lordsupasta]

That Stutzle call was awful. Textbook corkscrew.. Stick wedged between his legs at high speed.. I guess he was supposed to snap the stick with his God-Quads?

[@braydenkoons3117]

Zach hyman’s wasn’t a good call

[@gregors1521]

I'm a Leafs fan, that's a dive.

[@krissmonte6374]

They should provide cards to hold up from 1 to 10 for originality and technique😁

[@wozniwack]

Request: friendly fire injuries (example, Clifford on Sunny the other night)

[@calebrashleigh6127]

Can you do a best almost goalie plays, where a goalie makes a big save and then they get scored on. #request

[@alexcomora1273]

Kaakos what’s embellish

[@danmiller4048]

I'm actually glad that refs call these even if they are borderline. It discourages players from diving and keeps hockey from becoming soccer.

[@miguelohara9534]

Some of these are really harsh and unfair

[@905niagara5]

The Hyman makar and Barzal ones were kinda not diving

[@fooglez]

Could make a 1 hour vid of dives with only using preds and coyotes footage.

[@slyhabsguy1347]

Oops you got caught with a little embellishment...lol. If anyone is Habs fan here, please check out coach Frenchy from Hockey Nation live. Great guy and needs supporters

[@erintheangry]

How are you supposed to skate with a stick between your legs? Also the cross check from behind into the boards didn't look like a dive to me either.

[@krissmonte6374]

This reminds me did. Kucherov😰 win the Bill. Barber. 🤔Embellishment. Cup last season?😊

[@gradycalder9429]

That Kakko one is such a ridiculously awful call

[@davey33monk]

Do career milestones

[@twomstone_17]

Stutzle and Hyman weren't embellishment, you could see the stick between their legs and hyman was still trying to skate.

[@dreggman2796]

4:55 I was at that game :)

[@thatsensfan29]

Battle of Alberta highlights #Request. BTW Great vids❤️❤️❤️

[@Trentthetrombonist7]

Do goalie fights!

[@deadhacksonline8595]

7:09 Is it embellishment if you trip on your own skate?

[@camraneycomedy]

i'm a rangers fan but boy was that a bad job by brendan lemieux

[@mattm8108]

Can you do more bad calls

[@thomaswybiral]

u should do best hands compilation #Request

[@Brandon-lj8lu]

request: injuries while mic’d up!

[@xanderhawk2473]

#Request fights after goals

[@nbspartan1337]

Beating the buzzer in the final minutes of regulation in the playoffs #Request

[@dankdogegaming5700]

Request best other sports goals but with a better tittle

[@aidankhan921]

That Kakko call was so bad

[@OilFan702]

Do a missed empty net compilation.

[@detonatedynamite7311]

Suggestion: Goals after big hits #request

[@Petergriffin91]

Do goals with 5 seconds or less left In the period

[@bobboy7222]

crowd silensers

[@lakesidecardz]

pls sub to me

[@d4comreal]

Goalie Equipment falling off (Gloves, Blockers, etc) #Request

[@daverobinson9351]

I don't like that both go off when one is diving. Even in soccer they don't penalize both. Change the rule, if they dive they go to the box, not both

[@RoyalMela]

Why? You trip, it is a penalty. You dive, it is also a penalty. Soccer is a game for actors anyways, and they should hand out yellow cards to divers.

[@jordangrenier1538]

WTF? I'm biased here, but Coots, a very honest player, gets shoved into the boards and then gets an embellishment? That's nuts.

[@krissmonte6374]

The. Embellishment. Cup 🤕winner is. Nikita. Kucherov the best at it since the days of the great embellisher. Bill. Barber😊

[@ba11isticmatt68]

#Request saves leading to goals pt2

[@LostWhits]

Surely it's either a dive, or it's a trip. How can it be both?

[@rickhaavisto9023]

If I hit you with a high stick, and you embellish, how can’t it be both?

[@RoyalMela]

Easy. You trip, it is a penalty. You dive, it is a penalty.

[@solomonledford5453]

Embellishment being called on legit penalties/ injuries

[@boland73]

Soccer could use a penalty for diving too

[@hausmaster9801]

They need an embellishment rule in soccer.

[@oliveranderson334]

If that one on Stutzle is a dive I’m black

[@caras2004]

NHL meets FIFA

[@jimmyohara2143]

Barzal’s call shouldn’t have been embellishment it’s hard to skate on one foot after you’ve been tripped

[@sk82live89]

Can you do a video of bad ice conditions #request

[@yakultloverjp]

It is an ongoing argument; how is it possible to call both embellishment and a penalty for the player.

[@RoyalMela]

Why not? Both players break the rules, both get a penalty. The first penalty does not disappear just because the other player decides to dive, doesn't it.

[@rickhaavisto9023]

If I graze you with a high stick, and you fall like you’ve been shot...why shouldn’t that be both?

[@themoose5811]

What would Neymar do...

[@imcalleddakota]

Good - publicize the floppers

[@robertcharn7537]

the Hyman call was bad... he literally got a stick stuck between his legs... he didn't fall on purpose.

[@krissmonte6374]

But I still love hockey💖

[@brettoland]

I don't get why they call both, either its a fuckin penalty or the guy dove lol...

[@MrMobiusKage]

@@adraper6816 This is how I view it. one player definitely does something worthy of a penalty, and the recipient fears it will be missed, so decides to throw some theatrics to draw attention. I don't agree with it each time (especially some of these), but can understand.

[@RoyalMela]

You trip someone, it is still a trip, even if the opponent dives to make it more dramatic. The trip does not disappear magically.

[@smeagol9119]

Capitals announcers call it like it is at least.

[@Windyyyyyyyyy]

thumbnail????

[@OtterPlaysYT]

These refs are high

[@seedling345]

I don’t think a lot of those were embellishments

[@Nickkz555]

Refs getting drilled #request

[@drexrew]

Most of these calls wouldn't be penalties if the embellishment wasn't called, then why call the original penalty? If the dive was the only reason the original penalty was called, then only call the dive, or don't call anything. Tim Peel has shown that NHL officiating is, systemically, a joke. The NHL needs to decide what their philosophy of officiating is going to be, do we implement game management, or do officials simply call the penalties as they occur? If game management, even up penalties, are a part of the game, then Tim Peel got screwed. These even up diving calls show that the NHL has no idea what they want to do.

[@RoyalMela]

They do that if there is only a dive. But there is the original penalty + a dive, so both get the penalty. Simple.

[@ianbats847]

I get your point but it really depends on the context. Just because someone dived doesn't mean that the player who caused him to dive didn't also do an act of penalty. Let's say, player A slashes player B on the legs. Player B dives as a result and gets an embellishment penalty. Of course, player A gets a slashing penalty because slashing is also penalized. It's not like a penalty will disappear just because someone dives. Then again, some of these calls are tough to decide on, depending on the gravity of the penalty (e.g., causing injury). And it is worth noting that the usual intent of a player to embellish is to get someone penalized, provided he doesn't get caught faking it 😆 So there's that.

[@politicalbandwagon4989]

My opinion, if it’s an embarrassment, don’t call anything.

[@RoyalMela]

And let someone get away with a clear penalty? Nope. You have to call it even if opponent dives. Give a penalty to both.

[@bcxsniperz8032]

Makar one was awful

[@commandershepard1838]

Idk about the first one. The dude is grabbing his arm

[@lakesidecardz]

pls sub to me

[@leonf4721]

Well he did but namestikow exaggerated too so it was the right call

[@coast2coast00]

He grabbed his arm and his feet went out from under him.

[@stevetulloch9731]

That Kakko call was fuckin awful. That first Arvidsson call was as well. Second one against Marchand was a pretty clear dive tho.

[@stephensarow2127]

Really annoys me when the announcers talk over the penalty announcement then get shocked when it's not a power play. It's your job to tell us about this, yap after you have the facts.

[@seedling345]

Players with 5+ points in a game #REQUEST

[@lmtman6199]

so ur saying refs dont know how to call embellishment

[@ayram_exe8437]

Nice thumbnail LGI

[@lakesidecardz]

pls sub to me

[@ayram_exe8437]

@@lakesidecardz Give me a good reason why

[@lakesidecardz]

because it would mean the world to me i’ve been having a tough week and i post very similar content

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i also wanna have a friendship with my fans

[@ayram_exe8437]

@@lakesidecardz Okay I guess I will sub

[@Maxthethird3]

What about “Superstars scoring ugly goals” like McDavid scoring a dirty greasy in the crease rebound

[@brandenknox4823]

When matthew tried to pick up stutzle😳😳. Also I'm not sure how you can embellish a penalty he either committed a penalty or he tried to dive to draw one

[@RoyalMela]

Well, you can always dive after being penalized. That is the case on most of the embellishment penalties. You get tripped, you dive. Two fouls, two penalties.

[@JP-wb7xi]

goals by players who lost helmet during play #request

[@Max_m]

Any hockey player who embellishes should get 5min in my book. No place for that, used to be got your teeth knocked in.

[@krissmonte6374]

Other than dirty cheap shots to deliberately hurt another player I hate embellishment