NHX-10kw hybrid inverter review and testing~10,000 watt outdoor rated inverter

In this video I take take a look at the NHX-10kw.
I do some load tests and share my thoughts on the unit. Watts247 carries these units. They’ve been testing and tweaking things for close to a year. These inverters would be a great option for people needing an outdoor rated hybrid unit at a good price.
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[@GavinStoneDIY]

Affiliate links: Link to the 10kw inverter The default shipping address is “local pickup” update the address column to see delivery prices watts247.com/product/nhx-10kw-split-phase-120v-240v-outdoor-rated-grid-interactive-ul-listed-4-pv-inputs-to-500v-and-much-more/?wpam_id=122

[@terrahillfarm]

Another great review! I saw those on the Watts 24/7 website and I figured if Ian was selling them, they’re probably great units for the price. He’s pretty picky about solar gear. I won’t be surprised if the price goes up a bit once they get some traction. I really like the 10k size. That’s plenty enough power for most folks homes 👍⚡️☀️💡🔋

[@chuck1011212]

Nice! I really like this feature: 2 x Dedicated outputs ( 1 is permanently tied to the Inverter/Grid Passthrough , the second is programmable according to battery State of Charge) - I use this to heat electric hot water when battery is nearly full

[@totalpropertysolutionsexte4738]

At less than half the price of the 18k, I’m surprise I haven’t heard more about this inverter. I’d love to see a head to head comparison video.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

They have some of the same features. But they depart in other areas. I just think it’s awesome to have options. These will hopefully get some more attention. Ian at watts247 has put a lot of work getting the firmware right on these.

[@totalpropertysolutionsexte4738]

@@GavinStoneDIY looks like they do not ship; says it’s local pick up only in UT.

[@Tumbleweed5150]

@@totalpropertysolutionsexte4738 Bummer! I have to wonder why... And how GavinStoneDIY got one.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@totalpropertysolutionsexte4738 hmmm. That’s strange. Maybe call and talk with Ian. He also answers texts or emails.

[@doczwy8143]

@@totalpropertysolutionsexte4738 I checked on his website and what you see in red letters in the cart is if you want to do local pickup, you enter in "will call" in the coupon code. In the cart go to change shipping address and input your state, city and zip code and it will compute shipping for you.

[@jeffthornton2618]

What would be interesting to see is experimenting with the new indoor EG4 Powerpro battery you just received and hooking it up to the new NHX-10kw inverter unit. That is the exact combo I am looking at getting. The setup would just run my 240v loads like well pump, water heater, heat pump, ac and dryer. I talked to Ian and he said to set it to USE type batter and bulk to 57.5, float to 56v and low cut off to 48v.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

That voltage would work perfect yeah. That’s what I had mine set to. It would essentially be almost what I tested the inverter with when I ran all my loads with it. I had 300ah of battery hooked to it. And the new indoor power pro is 280ah.

[@hendersonsobers396]

Thanks for this review Gavin. Really good job. Inverter looks like it has good potential. Ideal for those persons looking for a dedicated EV charging solution from solar. It's amazing the level of quality and feature rich inverters that have been released just within the past 12 months. Also, I'm glad to see that these newer inverters have cleared up concerns pertaining to neutral ground bonding....that was such a mess a few years back.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Exactly. The video was getting long. But I had a dialogue about how encouraging it is to see the newer inverters coming on the market. Quieter, great displays, low idle consumption. All things some of the last generation of inverters ignored

[@norsk54472]

thanks for the review. very interested in this as a second inverter for my existing system. I have a XW Pro with 70kwh of battery, but the cost of a 2nd XW Pro is $3500 inc tax and shipping. this unit total with willcall pickup is $2400 and more power. looks good

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Yeah it’s a nice unit. I should be making a follow up review in the next couple weeks.

[@easttexascowboy257]

Good review, Gavin. I like that you covered all the basics including some load testing in a single relatively short video. You mentioned running your water well. I'm thinking this might be a good option for a stand alone well like I'm looking at installing. I'll be watching this one for reviews after it's been out there a few months. I suspect your video is going to help get it out there a lot sooner. Appreciate the time and work you put into this!

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Thanks man. Yeah it’s a good option for a standalone system. I’m still impressed with the idle consumption too. This inverter with around 300ah of battery would be awesome for that.

[@fullyelectric]

@Gavin S. Quick question, do you like this unit over the EG4 18Kpv? Also what is the idle consumption? And can you have this unit back-feed and power loads in your main panel and also in your critical load panels at the same time with export set to zero or disable?

[@GavinStoneDIY]

The 18kpv and this unit are actually different in a number of ways. I prefer the 18kpv overall. But this unit definitely has potential. It did really well in all my tests. This unit has grid interactive features. So it’s able to feed your main panel with the zero export option. I believe I tested around 65 watts idle consumption on the NHX in this video.

[@fullyelectric]

@@GavinStoneDIY awesome 👏 thanks for the feedback i like the hybrid inverters best as you can keep non critical loads in your main panel and still used PV or battery to power them as needed, plus having a critical load panel just for only critical loads, too bad they have not made the 12Kpv model yet, that would be perfect.

[@jasperthomas8048]

Thanks Gavin. What is the power consumption of this unit?

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Idle consumption? I tested around 60 watts.

[@2284esther]

Thanks Gavin for your overview of this product.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Sure thing. I should have another video on it in the next few weeks.

[@TylerTheCompiler]

Great review thx. Will this work without batteries like a simple grid tie inverter? I’m just looking to run most of my loads during the daytime and have grid at night. I need the zero export feature with the CT’s.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

It will do that yes. If you follow the link itll take you to the manual and description. Watts247 usually does a great job of describing all the features.

[@TylerTheCompiler]

Thx so much for showing alternative options. I’m very impressed with this unit.

[@2284esther]

Ian had a video out and yes it can run pv only no battery necessary from what I understand. I already have this but yet to be installed. Ian gives a thumbs up for this low frequency inverter.

[@toddlitton7834]

After 2 Months are you still running it? How's it doing? I'd like to install solar this year, but want to be grid tied but not back feed the grid. Really just want to be able to use what I produce and grid back up or if I was to go over the 10K rating while grid is connected have grid make up the difference I don't think I would pull much more than that often.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

I ran the unit for around 3 weeks or so. But I don’t still have it on my wall no. Adam Delay did release some reviews videos on this inverter as well. Im not sure how well it does on zero export. I haven’t seen anyone post any readings on that yet.

[@toddlitton7834]

Thanks yes I've see Adam's channel as well subscribed to both yours and his enjoy the content.

[@jetkrazee]

Hi, thank you for the wonderful product video. Im somewhat new to the solar scene and have been deciding on what inverter I wanted to purchase. Very impressed with this unit however, Iam a bit weary of those quick connects for ac out. What is your take on those type connections? I personally would like to see screw down clamp style there. Thanks!

[@GavinStoneDIY]

It’s hard to say. Personally I think they work fine. I haven’t heard of any failures with these on the NHX yet. I’ve use similar inputs on PV before. It makes sense why they couldn’t add standard terminals though. The wiring area is a bit tight. I’m editing another video on the NHX now. I really do like the inverter. Especially at this price point.

[@jetkrazee]

@GavinStoneDIY I appreciate the extremely quick reply, brother! Yeah, I don't think it's a deal breaker for me, but even as I stated earlier about being somewhat new to solar, I have years of electrical and electronic background. One instance where I have seen issues with a similar type connection was in regular household 120vac outlets using the push to connect type setup. The blades do not make sufficient contact or should I say, not enough surface area and tend to heat up and deteriorate quicker than using the clamp style. Either way, thank you once again! Great video tutorial and reviews 👌

[@andys5203]

Awsome presentation 👌 Thank you. How does it compare to eg4 12k ul certification.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

I haven’t looked in to every cert comparison between the two. I know the 12kpv and NHX are approved for use in California.

[@andys5203]

@@GavinStoneDIY Thank you

[@jetkrazee]

Is total PV input for all four connections 500vdc, or is each pv input capable of 500v? Thanks😊

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Each input is independent. So in its 500v each.

[@jetkrazee]

@@GavinStoneDIY awesome, thank you!

[@jetkrazee]

Hey Gavin, will this inverter allow charging batteries while also using pass through grid supply at night? Thanks!

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Yes. It’s capable of doing both.

[@jetkrazee]

@@GavinStoneDIY awesome. thanks again!

[@AdamDeLay07]

Interesting inverter. I was surprised on the size as well. It does look slick.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Yeah. And it’s tough. I think it briefly capped out at 6,800 on one leg. Which is really good

[@rodneyhunt]

Lots of interesting inverters coming out lately! Nice work

[@VinayJhinkoe]

can this unit do 120/208v or 127/220v? (120 phase degree)

[@GavinStoneDIY]

You’d have to verify in the manual. I believe it mentions 120v208v.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Looks like a nice inverter! I like that screen!!

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Yeah the display is super cool I think.

[@jeffthornton2618]

Hello Gavin: I watched the NHX video again for the 5th time, great video. I have talked to Ian also on the unit. I've decided to go with the NHX inverter in my system. I was going to go with 3 EG4 Lifepower 4 batteries to start with, but noticed that you were using EG4 LL-s batteries on this test. Am wondering in an NHX set up with only 3 batteries would you use the EG4 LLS batteries or the Lifepower 4 batteries? Having a hard time making up my mind. Thanks Jeff

[@GavinStoneDIY]

I would choose the LL’s. Mostly because the longer warranty, but also nicer software. But they are more expensive, so if you do choose the lifepower4’s I would highly recommend getting the communication hub to go with them.

[@jeffthornton2618]

Gavin: after looking at my space, I am deciding it would maybe be better for me to go with 3 EG4 LL batteries rather than the EG4 power pro in hooking up to the NHX 10k unit. In one of your videos it looks like you were powering your unit with those LL batteries. Am not sure that is the way to go. On the watts 247 site he sells the SOK and Pytes batteries. Do they have the same protocol that NHX uses? Thanks, Jeff

[@GavinStoneDIY]

I actually think the LL’s would have worked in “Deye” protocol on my LL’s. That is pylon I think. I just didn’t realize that when I made video. I’m going to be reviewing the other rack batteries Ian has soon I think.

[@geneinmyrtlebeach6967]

Is it really possible to install one of these and utilize the grid to supplement power when needed? Truly ZERO export to the grid? No poco knocking on your door? Inquiring minds want to know. 😬

[@GavinStoneDIY]

That is the question. The lowest zero export numbers I’ve heard about are on the 18kpv. I haven’t seen any hard data on this inverter yet in that regard.

[@donbrenczeizinger6571]

Nice review ,good job Gavin!

[@thedabbler2753]

Thanks for the video! I've had my eye on this unit since the day Amen put it out and have read the manual cover to cover, but have yet to commit.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Seems like a strong contender for sure.

[@turtle1723]

In parallel that's 20kw for $4400 which is a nice price point for that amount of output.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

And features. If someone wanted to sell back to the grid this would be a great option.

[@blainecelestaine4543]

Checks a lot of boxes . I believe the wave will be grid tie zero export. Thats certainly what I'm interested in . Plus it can run as a backup when grid is down. so my wife can run the washer ,dryer, hair dryer, stove and both central units (when the grid is up) this thing is lowering my bill. Im not giving the utility company anything😊 . And my wife aint complaining. WIN... On paper u could have two in parallel 10k on each leg do all of the above @ 120w idle less than the eg4 18k.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

For sure it has a lot of potential. 2 of these would definitely run all my loads. The idle consumption of the 18k is around 70watts. The these units appear to be 63-70 watts. So actually pretty similar. So yeah you’d probably be around 120-130 idle consumption. I expect to see a lot more of these on people’s walls soon.

[@blainecelestaine4543]

@@GavinStoneDIY if I'm not mistaken a single 18 would be less total kw and surge than 2 10k's in parallel.Plus if the 18k goes down your s.o.l. but it's less likely both 10k's would go down at the same time

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@blainecelestaine4543 yeah redundancy is a factor also. It’s always nice to have a backup. The 18kpv’s output is 12kw. Versus 10kw for the NHX. 2-NHX’s would have 8kw more output than the 18kpv. There is of course other differences in the two inverters other than output. So it’s hard to do a complete apples to apples comparison.

[@doczwy8143]

Thanks for putting this video out, I've been anxious to see your review after mentioning you had one of these. This remains on my list for my shop system, still have time before I need to purchase inverters and waiting to see all the new inverters coming out.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Thanks. Id like to see your take on this unit. Scope readings opinions ect. If you get it, we will be expecting videos. 🙂

[@doczwy8143]

@@GavinStoneDIY You can be sure of that if I purchase a pair.

[@KipSwope]

I see this unit has 4 independent pv inputs at 500 volts each, with the EG4 6000XP ,which has 2 pv inputs,are those inputs 480 volts each ,or are they 480 volts total ?

[@GavinStoneDIY]

480v each input on the 6000xp.

[@KipSwope]

Thanks@@GavinStoneDIY

[@Scat.original]

I would of like to see you load testing Washer, Dryer, Oven, Well, Water Heater, these thing are inportant to us Thanks Scat

[@GavinStoneDIY]

I could have added more It just makes the video extremely long.

[@Scat.original]

@@GavinStoneDIY Could you make a PART 2 Video with just load testest to the max the inverter for Washer, Dryer, Oven, Well, Water Heater

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@Scat.original I don’t have the unit on my wall anymore. I can say it handled loads extremely well. There are some other KZbinrs that are going to be reviewing the unit as well. So hopefully they can add more details.

[@kurtzxcvb3481]

Any updates on this unit

[@GavinStoneDIY]

I don’t have it on my wall any more. I tested it for around 2 weeks. I really liked it over all. Another KZbinr is about to release some videos on it though.

[@kurtzxcvb3481]

@@GavinStoneDIY did you keep it or was it just a review model do you want to sell it

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@kurtzxcvb3481 I didn’t keep it. It was just for review.

[@kurtzxcvb3481]

@@GavinStoneDIY okay thank you very much have you heard anything more about the eg4 12K that's coming out

[@dennisday8141]

Good morning Gavin. Is this a high or low frequency inverter?

[@hendersonsobers396]

Looks high frequency to me.

[@sh839c]

High

[@GavinStoneDIY]

It’s a HF unit.

[@sh839c]

Good review, each output is 120 volt?.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

AC? Yes it’s a 120/240 split phase inverter

[@sh839c]

Was curious because Ian said he was running a hot water heater off of one of the programmable outputs hence I thought each output was 240. Hope that makes sense.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@sh839c oooh I see what you mean. Each output is split phase 120/240v. The second output is just controlled by voltage. So it’s a great option for loads like Ian mentioned.

[@sh839c]

@@GavinStoneDIY Thanks, that is a good option.

[@Scat.original]

How did you get yours since they do not ship?

[@GavinStoneDIY]

They have plenty in stock. Do they have an issue shipping to you?

[@Scat.original]

@@GavinStoneDIY I see this afte adding to cart - Local pickup ONLY use Coupon Code - willcall so I thought it was only Pickup But just now select the State Drop Down and was able to change it to Florida Can you pin a comment at top that says they do ship, because I seen below someone commented that it is for Pickup only?

[@doczwy8143]

I checked on his website and what you see in red letters in the cart is if you want to do local pickup, you enter in "will call" in the coupon code. In the cart go to change shipping address and input your state, city and zip code and it will compute shipping for you.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@doczwy8143 good catch

[@jeffthornton2618]

Can you connect the Eg4 Power pro battery to this unit?

[@GavinStoneDIY]

You could but they wouldn’t be able to use communication. The pro batteries don’t have pylon tech protocol as of right now.

[@jeffthornton2618]

what batteries can be hooked to these then that will communicate. Was just thinking about one of these instead of the 18K.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

@@jeffthornton2618 any battery that supports Pylontech protocol. Watts247 has some rack batteries with that protocol.

[@jeffthornton2618]

Would this NHX unit power my well pump - hot water heater - range - heat pump / ac & dryer?

[@blainecelestaine4543]

If the appliance uses a 35 amp or less individually then yes . If you are in off grid and you start a a well pump and a 5 ton AC unit with our a easy start on it at the same time probably not. If you are running it as grid assist then everything should run as usual and the inverter should ramp up or down it's production based on the ct's reading. That's my question how capable are the settings in grid assist zero export​@@jeffthornton2618 @gavin

[@diySolarPowerFunWithRay]

Cool. Looks like a nice unit. I like that it's more quiet than the eg4 luxpower units.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

I’d say the 18kpv is still quieter over all. But yeah it’s quieter than the 6000xp’s. seems to handle surges and loads really well. I think megarevo did a good job with this one.

[@Someoneswave]

Why is this inverter not getting much exposure? Seems like a good solution if you need a bit more power than the 6000xp offers. @WillProwse.

[@GavinStoneDIY]

Yeah I think it’ll start to get more traction. It may be a good option for people depending on their wattage needs.