NI's Kontrol F1 + Traktor Pro 2.5 Update -- Tutorial + Overview w/ DJ Endo

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@KFServices1
@KFServices1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah 2020 and I’ve finally got one and this is by far the best video to help with the hardware.
@wpm10
@wpm10 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@everythingdesi6453
@everythingdesi6453 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this back in 2013. Nice hardware. I was wondering if I can just play around using the f1 only solo without the controller
@PunchineloPow
@PunchineloPow 4 жыл бұрын
Same, just grabbed the s4 mk3 also 👊
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@mrsleepyshow
@mrsleepyshow 3 жыл бұрын
im finding the pads so resistant like tough to push down compared to say the Korg nanocontrol etc. is this normal?? i got 2 on ebay want to resell them
@djjordiriera01
@djjordiriera01 12 жыл бұрын
This video is the best and clear one i have seen of Kontrol F1. You should make the official video tutorials for NI.
@surfobsessed
@surfobsessed 8 жыл бұрын
The best video on this device by far, many thanks.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
Glad you like, and thanks for watching!
@LaszloMag
@LaszloMag 12 жыл бұрын
You the man, Endo. Thanks for all your comprehensive walk-throughs.
@lovewave444
@lovewave444 4 жыл бұрын
You are an amazing teacher!! And I rewarded myself getting F1 after putting in enough hours practice. For anyone considering this is SO worth the investment, changes everything ;-)
@musikizum79
@musikizum79 7 жыл бұрын
the best tutorial i saw. Everybody just show their own remix sounds... and what we want to know is how to control F1! Thanks a lot!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and I'm glad you liked the video!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the video. More coming soon!
@MortenMalerstuen
@MortenMalerstuen 11 жыл бұрын
Professional DJ, Producer, reviewer, teacher and a nice man! Very nice review!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes you can combine all of your gear. The setup and configuration will be different depending on what soundcard / mixer you use but you can control decks a + b with the midi controller, deck C can be maschine and Deck D can be the F1. You would just have to configure your audio outputs. Remember you can share the same audio output with 2 or more decks if you need to (example - sharing maschine and the F1 onto one channel, or even sharing both w/ a deck channel if you have 2 channel mixer)
@mybabebetty
@mybabebetty 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you Endo, I appreciate the feedback and keep the videos coming!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
You do not need a 4 channel mixer to use the Remix Decks, in fact in preferences - output routing you can COMBINE multiple decks onto one channel. So you can combine the Remix Deck (C) onto the same channel as track Deck A and the Remix Deck (D) on the same channel as track Deck B.
@andnegr
@andnegr 12 жыл бұрын
Astonished Mike! You show the real F1 & Remix Decks potential, great job.
@louieruribe
@louieruribe 11 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT!!! I HAVE AN S4 AND JUST GOT MY F1 !!! my son actually put me on to you guys he takes classes @ Dubspot in N.Y. I live in Miami though and their's just a hand full of us that have this down here can't wait to rock the F1 on my next Gig ..Thanks for the tutorial :)
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you hold shift and push the Browse button the F1 will go into MIDI mode where you can MIDI map any of the buttons or faders to control any software parameters in whatever program you're using.
@MrBoogieDavis
@MrBoogieDavis 12 жыл бұрын
The first video I've found which actually shows you what to do. ty DJ Endo..
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great question. The way to do this is you can right click (or ctrl click on mac) on a single file or a selected list of files in the explorer (in Traktor) and choose "Import to collection" - arrow over to where it says "Import as Looped Sample" and this will make all of your samples loops and should save the info to the file as well if you load it later on in the explorer.
@bandanahanna
@bandanahanna 11 жыл бұрын
THANKS! nice to see people on the internet helping others!
@billyblackboy8888
@billyblackboy8888 11 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Tutorial and i admire all of you people that can understand all this technical stuff...i'm old school and have a hard time with computers etc... so i will stick with my CDJ 1000 MK3's and my Mighty Hand Made E&S DJR 400 Analog Rotary Mixer !! Cheers
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
We are working on getting F1's for all of the stations at Dubspot and will be incorporating it into our class as soon as we get them!
@RedDragonCanada
@RedDragonCanada 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man thanks for the tutorial 👌 you and Dubspot do a terrific job!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@m00ninite
@m00ninite 12 жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY plan on getting this to pair with my S2. Looks like it really completes the setup and gives so much more versatility than with the S4 alone.
@Sabumnimgeh
@Sabumnimgeh 12 жыл бұрын
Oh now your showing of Endo, just watched the whole video of the chain bro.... Think i'm going to start saving my best samples per track in each slot like you have, nice one
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 6 ай бұрын
12 Years later - literally nothing has changed with the Remix Decks, and this video is still relevant. You're welcome! Haha! I just wish I got more in depth on how to capture samples. It's the only thing I didn't cover. :)
@ObeyDaRock
@ObeyDaRock 4 ай бұрын
Hey @deejayendo could you explain - respectively does someone know how to „simple“ (not via keyboard) delete just a single sample?
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can switch between controlling the remix decks by holding Shift and turning the browse knob. This will switch between controlling decks C & D (for example). You can use one controller for all 4 remix decks.
@Doomsta1971
@Doomsta1971 11 жыл бұрын
superb tutorial on my way to pick my s4 and f1 up now !! im sure im going to be checking out more of your videos,thanks again
@dopeconcepts1607
@dopeconcepts1607 11 жыл бұрын
great video. You really made it easy. Made so much more sense after watching this 20 min video! Great job and thank you!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
If sync is on in the Remix deck it will sync to whatever is the master tempo (whether it be a track deck in auto mode, or the master clock if master clock is the master, or whatever deck is selected as the master clock in manual mode). The way to get it to sync perfectly is by making sure the beatgrids are correct for the track your sampling before sampling it. You can slow down the deck by either slowing down the master clock (deck or clock) or by turning sync off and moving the tempo fader
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
You can actually capture loops from your own music for using in the Remix Decks. Try taking a track, loading it into a deck, set a loop in the deck, then click and drag on the decks header (where the track title is displayed) and drag the deck down to a remix deck slot. Traktor will take the loop and copy it into the remix deck slot. Once the sample has played 3 times in the remix deck, that loop will be saved to your all samples folder and you can use it at any time.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
You can turn key lock on by hovering your mouse over the three yellow lines above the waveform. The Music Note icon is Key Lock. Also you can turn on Key Lock on the F1 hardware by holding Shift and turning on the pads in the Keylock column
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
You can sync Logic to Traktor and use your logic VST's with Traktor if you really want to. You can use any sound that you'd like in the remix deck.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
The default Traktor key commands come with some functions for the remix decks, but if you really want to get geeky, try making your own key commands for the rmx decks. This is a great way to learn Traktor under the hood. Go to preferences, controller manager and this is where you can add / delete / edit your midi mappings and keyboard mappings. maybe try deleting traktor's keyboard mapping and creating a new generic keyboard device. Then go through the menus and figure out what each command does
@kiqidj
@kiqidj Жыл бұрын
that's next level 😄
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can use the F1 in conjunction with any controller or soundcard. It acts as an add on to your current DJ setup.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes if you follow this video you should be able to pick it up quickly. It makes a nice add on to the DDJ Ergo and will work just fine with it.
@djbeatarkitekt1
@djbeatarkitekt1 11 жыл бұрын
Spectacular review...was thinking about buying this and this video convinced me
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to go to another DJ school? Dubspot is the best in the world! :-)
@guygilbert
@guygilbert 12 жыл бұрын
Great overview and tutorial. Best on the web. Thanks.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Are you in internal mixing mode or external? Make sure the sample isn't muted and the filters are in the middle. You won't be able to monitor individual samples in external mixing mode
@Mitchsvids13
@Mitchsvids13 11 жыл бұрын
SOOOO so clear! Amazing tutorial. i am now 100% getting this product. THANKYOU. :D
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
Double click on the deck header to expand the decks and show the full view of the Remix Decks. You also want to be on the latest version of Traktor Pro, since the software that came with the S4 originally only has sample decks, not remix decks.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes you can use Traktor 2.5 with the S2. Not only is it compatible, but the S2 has a knob in the center for the Remix Decks (or whatever you have playing through decks C&D) so you can use the F1 as an add on to the S2.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
The all samples folder is located under Track collection - All samples. Make sure you're on the latest version of Traktor Pro.
@drums34
@drums34 11 жыл бұрын
Thank's for this demo dude !
@dubspot
@dubspot 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. This will give you FULL control over the remix decks and every single feature in the Remix Decks. The S4 / S2 are limited as to how much control you have over the Remix Decks. The F1 would make a good add on to your S2/S4 setup.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
The way I did my custom F1 mapping is I colored all of the LED's in the controller editor application (applications / native instruments / controller editor). In this app you can choose what color each pad is in the off state and on state by double clicking the pad, choosing the "assign" tab, choose LED on "For Midi In", and choose Mode "Gate", Type "Note" and then select Color Mode "Dual" and set the Color On and Color off to whatever color you would like. Then in Traktor you would map LED out
@djmr.vinncredible5050
@djmr.vinncredible5050 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial...'bout to add this F1 to my set while it's on sale. And Keep it Creative!!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can map the F1 knobs and buttons to control anything in Traktor in User Mode (including effects). Also you can send out color coded LED feedback for the pads!!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
I made those samples myself by making a loop in a deck with a track, then clicking and dragging the deck header into a remix deck cell and playing it 3 times. Once you play the loop 3 times in the remix deck cell it will save automatically to your all samples folder. This folder can be accessed by double clicking on the track collection.
@Sabumnimgeh
@Sabumnimgeh 12 жыл бұрын
OMG DJ Endo u don't stop giving well done that man, yuou must know you keeping giving and it comes back to you, great video just got my two and got a bit stuck this video helps. My Podcast is of the chain now, I will email you links via Facebook this weekend once I have done my 1st F1 Mix!! Will check back in 24hrs...
@steliosF11
@steliosF11 11 жыл бұрын
Totally subscribed now....I think that it is a MUST for every DJ...D.J Endo should be working on Apple's tutorials !!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Dubspot will be adding the Kontrol F1 to our in class curriculum soon!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
You can use timecode to control the remix decks if you have Traktor SCRATCH Pro. You will need a Traktor Scratch Certified soundcard such as the Traktor Audio 10/ Traktor Audio 6 / Pioneer DJM 900 or any other Traktor Scratch Certified Mixer listed on the Native Instruments website.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
the reason is because when you press shift play on the F1 its only stopping THAT CLIP in the remix decks. It doesn't stop the DECK itself. To stop the DECK you would want to push play / pause on whatever controller your using to control that deck, OR just click it with a mouse in the program.
@sokalballa
@sokalballa 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I learned a few things I didn't see anywhere yet!!!
@markbolland
@markbolland 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks bruv your tutorials are spot on love DubSpot
@dubspot
@dubspot 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Mark!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Being a geek doesn't make you a good DJ. What makes you a good DJ is being able to play good tunes, tell a good story, educate your audience, rock a party and do it skillfully and with class. All this controllerism, Remix Decks and crazy stuff you can do on top of just mixing is icing on the cake.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes it will work with the Denon mc6000. For those of you asking "will it work with...." the answer is "yes, as long as the controller or soundcard works with Traktor the F1 will work with it as an add on to your setup".
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes you can download the Traktor Remix Deck content via the Service Center (in your applications - Native Instruments folder). There are about 20 different Remix Sets you can download and play around with. Soon Producers will begin to sell their tracks as Remix Sets which you can buy or download, and Sample companies will also do the same and sell Remix Sets which you can buy online. You will just have to wait a bit. The revolution is only just beginning!
@Gemmusic-w6p
@Gemmusic-w6p 4 ай бұрын
Traktor is a beast. It really boils down to the level of skill the user has
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
I use the Traktor F1 cases to elevate my F1's. They work like a charm.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
Correct. You can play only one loop or sample per column (similar to ableton live)
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
To add to this, you also have a knob on the S2 that controls the volume of the remix decks (Decks C & D) on top of the other two channels (Deck A & B).
@figivijay
@figivijay 12 жыл бұрын
Endo was a bit tired, love these tutorials, i think you to be a geek these days to be a good DJ/Controllerist
@IngwiePhoenix_nb
@IngwiePhoenix_nb 12 жыл бұрын
Very nice! The only thing i didnt find or couldnt see was a demonstration of a timecode vinyl in combination with the remix deck. Also, a question: I only have two channels on my interface and mixer. Lets say deck B was being used for the current music, and deck A is now changed from a scratch deck into a remix deck, and later its changed back...will the loaded remix set be still available when i change to it later again?
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
There's so many different options you can do as far as setup goes depending on if your using an external mixer or Traktors internal mixer. I would personally suggest getting an audio 6 or 10 and also getting the X1 (for DJing) and F1 for using with the Remix Decks. Or you can get the S2 or S4 as your mixer / soundcard and F1 for controlling the Remix Decks.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes you can use the Kontrol F1 as an add on to the Behringer CMD Studio 4a or any other all in one DJ controller like the Traktor Kontrol S4 or anything else of that nature. Its good to think of the F1 as an ADD ON to your DJ setup.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
You have to have a scratch version of Traktor. To show the timecode scopes go to preferences - decks layout - platter / scope
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
You should check out the upgrade paths available with Traktor Scratch Pro 2. They discontinued duo and I believe Scratch is included with the new versions of Traktor. If you got the F1 box, you might also have been given a serial for the full version of Traktor as well. Check the box.
@pimp29061983
@pimp29061983 12 жыл бұрын
Go into settings and "Layout Manager" and the view that is shown is "browse", there is also a drop down menu on the top right of traktor that lets you select different views. They can be customised by double clickin the dex etc. Just play about with it. Also space bar is usually the "HOt Key", for quickly jumpin between browse mode and the mixing mode
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Not only can you do that but you can actually click and drag audio directly from the Maschine software into a remix deck slot! Check out Matt Celitti's video on the Dubspot channel on how to do this.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
To make a sample using the Remix Decks, make a loop in a track deck, then click on the decks header (the top section of the deck, the grey area always works best) and drag that to a Remix Deck Slot. Hit play on the remix deck slot and let it play 3 times. After playing 3 times it will save the sample to your all samples folder.
@stnewton12
@stnewton12 11 жыл бұрын
just got my F1 in the mail. cant wait to plug her in tonight
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is plug in your F1 and set a deck to be a remix deck and your ready to go! Traktor is fully modular so you can add as many controllers as you'd like. I personally use 3x CDJ 2000's in Advanced HID Mode, DJM 900 as my mixer / soundcard, and Maschine and F1 as my MIDI controllers. It works like a charm!
@TimothyDorcas
@TimothyDorcas 12 жыл бұрын
Great job describing the new F1!
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
One way is by ctrl - clicking on the sample in the browser by going to "All Samples", find the sample, ctrl click on it and choose the option "Set type to one shot sample". If your only trying to change it to a one shot in a specific remix deck, click on the name of the sample (in the remix deck slot), open the advanced panel by clicking the black arrow under the "active button" in the deck, and click on the loop icon in the advanced panel and change it to an arrow (one shot)
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
If you want to use the F1 with the S4, you'll need 2 usb ports. Plug the S4 into the first USB port and the F1 into the second USB port. The S4 has its own mixer built in which controls Traktor's internal mixer.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes the F1 makes a nice add on controller to whatever setup you have. Traktor is fully modular meaning you can use as many controllers as your computer has usb ports :)
@johell667
@johell667 12 жыл бұрын
i remember one of the problem with the sample deck was that when you sync sample or loop they dont have a key lock so they go out of pitch. it look to have no pitch section in remix deck so the problem is the same? sorry for my bad english
@welshgreengragon
@welshgreengragon 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much, you made it look so simple compared to the manual.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
As a beginning DJ, I would actually go with the S4. This way, you can do all of the basics + when your ready to move up to more advanced things you will have everything you need. You'll never get bored! Also the new S4 just came out which let's you hook up your iPhone or iPad to it and control Traktor DJ with the S4. Be sure to check out my other tutorial on the Traktor S4 on the Dubspot Blog.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
You should check out my other video on how to set beatgrids in Traktor. This will help you get the acapella to match up to a metronome and it will then sync properly with your other tracks. Beatgrids are the backbone of Traktor, especially when it comes to the Remix Decks and capturing samples.
@klumpsound
@klumpsound 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent walk-through, thanks a lot!
@HomeGrownBoards
@HomeGrownBoards 11 жыл бұрын
I just bought both over the summer, Midi fighter first, then the F1 a month ago. I would suggest getting the F1 first!
@MrBoogieDavis
@MrBoogieDavis 12 жыл бұрын
Having difficulty with Accapellas, they play way to fast, wont sync, it all seems to freak out as there is no beat.. any assistance greatly received.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
All of those samples I made using the sample decks in Traktor 2.1.2 / 2.1.3 using the tracks in my personal collection, but you can make your own home made samples using the F1's "Capture" feature, or by setting a loop in a beatgridded track and then clicking on the deck header and dragging it into a slot in the remix deck. After the sample plays 3 times it will show up in your all samples folder.
@localmo88
@localmo88 12 жыл бұрын
just got one.Looks really adaptable. Thanks for the vid.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
For your first DJ Device I would suggest getting the Traktor Kontrol S4.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes to change the loop to a one shot without the controller open the advanced panel by clicking the arrow under the "Active" button. Then where you see the loop icon, click on that and it will change to a one shot icon. Keep in mind this will only change it to a one shot in that particular deck, and won't change it to a one shot permanently. If you want to permanently change it to a one shot, ctrl click on the track in the browser and choose "Set Type to One Shot Sample"
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you hold shift and push the Browse button the F1 will go into MIDI mode where you can MIDI map any of the buttons or faders to control any software parameters in whatever program you're using. No hacking needed :)
@ParentalAdvisory1x1
@ParentalAdvisory1x1 6 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!!! Best Tutorial so far. Hans down. Thx
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Walter! Much respect.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
When you switch a Remix Deck to a track deck, it will clear the remix deck in the background. This is probably good because it saves your CPU load. If you want to load the remix deck back, just drag and drop it into the deck when you change the deck back to a remix deck. Your other option is to just combine the remix decks onto the same channel as a track deck in the output routing. Also there's an option to autosave changes you make to a remix deck automatically in the preferences.
@stevenlewis5550
@stevenlewis5550 11 жыл бұрын
Great video, I can't wait to get started!
@afshinz8629
@afshinz8629 Жыл бұрын
How do you save the patterns of the sequencer and save the remix set? Saving remix set does not capture the sequencer patterns?
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes it can but you would need to either find a good mapping to control the remix decks with Maschine or map it yourself which can be very difficult. I personally recommend just getting an F1 since it was made specifically to control the remix decks, and any Traktor updates will come with the updates for the default F1 mapping.
@mihailtravel99
@mihailtravel99 10 жыл бұрын
can you tell us what's the sample from 11:24 with the dark voice
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, please watch my other video I did on the Dubspot channel on the Traktor Preferences. Just do a google search for Traktor Preferences configuring layouts Endo, and the video should pop up in your search results.
@DeeJayEndo
@DeeJayEndo 11 жыл бұрын
The F1 can be turned into a MIDI controller by holding Shift and pushing Browse. You can then use it to control any software that lets you use MIDI controllers (such as serato DJ)
@SuffolkPunch1981
@SuffolkPunch1981 12 жыл бұрын
What about if I wanted to use the S2's two channels for normal beat mixing and then to add the F1's. Surely I would need 4 channel soundcard and the S2 has only 2??
@Le_Lys_Eclectique
@Le_Lys_Eclectique 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but need to ask you one question: once I've setup all the samples, can I forget looking at Traktor and be fully focussed on the F1 and S4? And how many pre-programmed voices, samples, sounds and so on can I add on the F1? And can I create my own samples/pre-programmed voices/sounds and so on...from parts of a song, let's say just the vocals or a chorus or an instrument? I wish to add pre-programmed voices, samples, sounds and so on... to recall live while mixing on traktor kontrol.... Thank you!!!
@sambourgein2837
@sambourgein2837 10 жыл бұрын
Can I ask if you can add effects on top of remix decks?? For e.g. beatmash a loop coming from the remix deck???
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