Niagara Peninsula Rails 1990 to 2002

As a compliment to my video of trains around Niagara Falls, I put together this video on the railroads of the greater Niagara Peninsula area. Locations include Fort Erie, Merriton, Welland Canal bridges at Lock 4, Port Robinson area and the spectacular Welland Canal tunnel cutting. Railroads include CN, CP, NS, CSX, Trillium Railway, Amtrak and VIA. The NS and CSX trains are running on the former trackage rights of the Wabash and Pere Marquette, respectively.

[@TheTVGuy45]

Niagara photos and videos don't come by often. This was something amazing to see. So much stuff has changed, it was great to see "what was" yet again.

[@-smokem]

Good to see high speed movement on the CASO at 26;24 then along the rerouting underneath the Welland Canal with the middle track and CTC still there.

[@iusetano]

A lot of memories for me. I grew up in this area. I see you even got my friends house in the video when you were shooting in Port Robinson. So many changes since you shot this. Excellent video. Thanks for the up load.

[@robinroberts3335]

Fantastic video lots of memories 👍🏻 Robin out

[@mikebrabant4170]

This has got to be the best Niagara Area videos liked the NS high-hoods, good catches CP Rail has a few local customers in Niagara Falls into Chipawa also Welland.

[@SeanMurrellRTS]

That brings back some amazing railfan memories. I can't believe me it took so long to find it. I have to look for your Niagara Falls video now.

[@nawrock]

Awesome footage there! This is the stuff I am searching high and low for. Thanks for posting this.

[@Adidasdude74]

This is an Amazing video I love it!!!!

[@davidvanschaick5565]

Good Stuff FMNUT, thanks for the help with questions on the chicago tower a whileback

[@terrywilliams759]

This is fantastic wow hope there is more thank you.

[@fmnut]

See my CN Before Trillium and Trillium Railway videos. Unfortunately that's it for now.

[@Trainsbigandsmall]

Sweet Work. You got Trillium's alco and two boxcars going over an eastbound CN freight and that is one big NS Train 326 at Merriton.

[@ovrtrains2003]

At time 35:40 you see the Dain City container/ trailer traffic sitting on the CN Cayuaga Sub.

[@railpast]

Great stuff

[@railpast]

Exgellent video work even in those days.

[@dakotapicou]

9:29 Amazing shot!

[@masonkalnins7644]

What great memories for the railroads around Niagara. Can you do a timeline of the years?

[@andrewthepokerchamp]

21:43 I didn't realize locomotive e bell was that old

[@zhaomeng5319]

just hard to imagine........ how many trains were there that go through st.catharines for former days?

[@bmet47]

Would love to find any footage of the Caso and Wabash lines back at Attercliffe and Canfield Jct. ! I suppose it would be unlikely to find any footage of the CN line that ran from Fort Erie up through Dunnville toCanfield,Caledonia,Brantford,Paris,to Goderich!

[@benjlar1902]

greg scholl has a few videos of old CN freights running up Goderich, Palmerston, Owen sound way on his website. before a lot of it was abandoned

[@firefighter5x]

I wish it was still busy like that

[@sparkymichener8481]

Great video both day and night. Nice to see history of the Niagara area saved. I appreciated the canal shots and Welland to Port Colborne rails. It is now downgraded to use mostly by the Trillium Railway with a speed restriction of 15 mph. Is there a way to purchase this from you?

[@fmnut]

+Sparky michener contact me via the youtube message service with your home address and I will send you a copy of the Niagara Falls and Niagara Region videos.

[@jamesstuart3346]

4:09 Six units and a slug? Geepers ;)

[@patricknoveski6409]

How did you get so much good footage? Geez

[@fmnut]

Lots of visits, learned the area, got out there with a camera and did my thing.

[@maxm2317]

Nice work, mate. Just out of curiosity, why did Norfolk Southern trains operating in that region have cabooses? Was that a condition for running on CN trackage? Also, if that’s the case, why didn’t that also apply to CSX?

[@fmnut]

I believe it was due to a union agreement carried over from the Wabash era. As such it didn't apply to Chessie or the Canadian carriers. It only lasted a short time after the period of this video, when NS stopped running through trains over the Niagara peninsula in favor of an all US route.

[@maxm2317]

@@fmnut Ah, I see. Thanks for the answer.

[@jimw2781]

When did the intermodals on the Grimsby sub stop running?

[@fmnut]

JimW27 no idea

[@jimw2781]

fmnut Alright. Thank you for the quick response.

[@SeanMurrellRTS]

154 155 ran I think up to 10 years ago. However they are bringing back IM service in the region starting with a run on October 7th.

[@ovrtrains2003]

Scale test car 52284 ??

[@ebaensey2983]

did the container train at the end make it under the bridge

[@SeanMurrellRTS]

Actually the bridge was replaced due to an IM train going on the wrong track back in the ABS days. Back then only 1 of the 2 mains would allow IM traffic and the dispatcher routed them on the wrong track. They have since replaced that bridge, and the TR rail bridge behind it has been removed after vandals set it on fire.

[@weserman7522]

41:02 are the tracks and canal still there? I do love to railfan and shipfan that aera.

[@fmnut]

Yes.

[@weserman7522]

@@fmnut than I know where I am going this summer. Is it near the skyway highway on the Welland canal?

[@fmnut]

@@weserman7522 yes. Search for flight locks on Google maps.

[@weserman7522]

@@fmnut got it

[@25mfd]

wait a minute... the NS and CSX, this far NORTH???... never knew this... (guess i should get out more often)

[@fmnut]

NS inherited trackage rights from Detriot to Fort Erie over CN as a result of the N&W/Wabash/NKP merger of 1964. C&O had some owned trackage in Ontario inherited from the Pere Marquette in 1947. They also had trackage rights to Niagara Falls over Canada Southern (later NYC/PC/CR). Both of these operations were on their last legs during the time period of the video.

[@25mfd]

@@fmnut thanks for the info

[@bennettgibson7287]

Does NS still have those former Wabash trackage rights?

[@SeanMurrellRTS]

Nope unfortunately not. Also CSX doesn't have the CASO as they once had in the image from the tunnel.

[@nelsonlachappellejr9377]

Is this video taken in New York or Canada?

[@fmnut]

The Niagara Peninsula is in Canada, not the US.

[@markthompsoncpa]

Why are some the engines turned around

[@fmnut]

Mark Camaro it's not always convenient to have a cab end facing the right way

[@ovrtrains2003]

Still mail DVD's out?

[@fmnut]

ovrtrains yes.

[@ovrtrains2003]

Still have my address?

[@ovrtrains2003]

Did you ever shoot Dain City, St Thomas or other parts of Southern Ontario?

[@fmnut]

ovrtrains what DVD did I send you? I can't find your address. Also, the only Dain City material I have is Trillium. The CASO and CN routes were finished by the time I discovered that area. I have nothing from St. Thomas.

[@ovrtrains2003]

@@fmnut did you ever shoot east of St Thomas and West of Welland? Anymore Niagara or Southern Ontario content to post?