NIANTIC'S BIGGEST MISTAKE IN 2023!! A Look Back on the Remote Raid Nerf in Pokémon GO...

[@Silvery1313]

The other thing Niantic completely does not understand is that even in cities, there is travel time. For me to see a raid pop up that I want to do, find people to go do it, and then drive over to the city center where people are, that's over 40 minutes. So, even if I want to go to in person raids, there's not enough time. People work. People have school. It gets dark. There is bad weather. So many many reasons remote raids were important that has nothing to do with us just sitting at home. My neighborhood park has 3 stops and 2 gyms. There are players here, but I have never ever seen more than me, my husband, and maybe one other person show up in person for a raid. Ever. This puts most 5* raids out of our ability to win.

[@TreFKennedy]

Nailed it

[@KaterinaAndersen]

Same here! Less persons show up, the few left are being forced to multi-accounting to have a chance to win a raid. Before we could relay on people jumping in on invites - not so anymore😢

[@tiahio8315]

Yes! This! When it’s just me, I can’t get anyone else to join, Even using campfire. And we have lots of gyms locally. I hardly ever see flares on there even. Occasionally I can get a few more people when I’m with my kid, but even then it’s hard to get enough people to beat a 4-5 star raid. We could if remote raid passes were more abundant because then our invitees would join in too. And I’m still needing to get Landorus to take a snapshot and finish years old research, and I missed it because I didn’t have enough coins for a remote raid pass when I was invited. :/

[@mrmoose6619]

Another thing I want is that if you can see the gym on your screen and it comes up in your Nearby Raids it is considered a local Orange/Green Pass Raid and not a remote raid. There are plenty of times I see a raid nearby when outside playing that have others already in it and I want to join them. However, by the time I get close enough to use the Orange/Green Pass, the raid team is in already. This happens a lot with 5* and Mega raids, especially when I haven't used my Daily Orange Pass. There are other times when I see an on screen raid and I want to do it, but I don't want to go out and it's not worth a remote raid to do it for whatever reason (not enough time on the countdown clock to get up and go into public, late at night, on/across from a busy roadway, poor weather, etc...). Granted, these are usually 1 or 3* Raids, but again... if I haven't used my pass and/or it is something I am hunting for... I believe it's a fair compromise and encourages raiding.

[@drscanada4607]

1. At this stage the limit of 5 makes no difference to me. The cost simply dropped remote raids as a viable gameplay. 2. Now due to loss of revenue they are making every event a Paid Research or some type of paid ticket to participate. A double whammy. Death of games … is the time when they turn free to play into pay to play.

[@greg3118]

2023 really felt like an all out war with the community. Every new shiny or good community day was counter balanced by major errors and community killing decisions. In addition to the remote raid nerf and the negative effects it's had to the community, we saw important community resources like Silph Road and PokeMiners shuttered. Box prices sharply rose as they became filled with garbage items. Elite Raids, which were meant to get us out and "off the couch" constantly had multiple errors. Did one ever work worldwide? I know they stopped doing special spawns afterwards.

[@TheGermanator]

I know POKETUBERS like JTGily, TrainerClub, Zoe2Dots, BrandonTann91, TrainerNicks & JTValor don't want to talk about about Remote Pass Neef because they are too afraid of losing there free in person trip. But you PokeAK, PoleDaxi & Mystic7 do stand up against NIANTIC for the Remote Raid Pass Nerf as REAL POKETUBERS.

[@TheVK23]

Brandon isn’t against the nerf since it doesn’t affect him so much

[@TheVK23]

But they can’t heal the wounds by this change no matter what they do they need to get these things back to normal. The thing is it’s expensive to do in person raids as well with 1 free a day only

[@D-S-G.]

Can we stop with this tribalism of "real youtubers"? It's great that some people will call out issues but the people who wish to stay positive aren't ignoring the issue, just haven't spoke of this 8 month old change in a bit.

[@seanperez1773]

Creating a hypothetical situation to hate on creators is childish. They also do more in person raids than remote so it doesn’t effect them. Plus, they’ve all mentioned their disapproval of it when it happened. Trainer Club has been saying there would be a nerf but he didn’t think to this extent. Support your favs but don’t put down others simply because their content isn’t something you want to see.

[@Miklo_1]

Yup! I stopped watching Trainer Club etc because of that bias they have. They don’t speak the truth to us because of fear of losing their free trip.

[@danthewildbirdman]

Its always a pain to do in person raids bc we can't just all be at some random park at some random time when we have jobs, school and a life. Yeah, lets all drive across town in the middle of the day to do a 2 minute raid and drive back, it's a waste of time.

[@DavidSmith-wd4ny]

I made the choice after the remote raid nerf to scale down my time and effort with Pokemon Go. I started playing other games and focused my efforts, time and money there. When a new Pokemon is released, I grab one up for the dex and move on.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Yeah this is how most people feel. Some people outright quit

[@Razzspoons]

​@CountJinsulaOfficial if they quit over such a small thing then this community is better off without them. Crybabies

[@redson08]

​​​@@RazzspoonsYeah, fucking over rural players even more is such a small thing. Jackass

[@DamianRavenhold]

Honestly, if we were to compromise. Lowering the price to 150 pokecoins and raising the limit to 10-15 passes a day would be the best option if we just arent going back to the old system.

[@mattv2099]

I was a $100 a week raider. Since the nerf I've done 7 remote raids. 2 of the legendaries ran. After the last runner I could never bring myself to remote raid again. There's no point in remote raiding if you cannot even do enough raids to get a high IV legendary and power it up to level 50. By lowering the limit to 5 per day they severely lowered the value of remote raids. Increase the price ? and you have a recipe for no point in remote raiding whatsoever. I would believe that these changes were dictated by the pokemon company. The real problem is they took away remote raiding but did not give us a proper in person raiding replacement. I want to raid in person. Good luck finding in person raids. They needed to increase the in person raid spawn rate at the very minimum.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

This is 100% most people's sentiment

[@ImAlexander1]

My still issue with this company is that they don't want to change with their Community to find a middle ground that would make both groups happy, 2016 will never happen again! and its sad that we suffer because they want that back. Imagine being in a relationship and all they think about is their old relationship! - we had a good run - they now release new Pokemon 1 or 2 at time in stead of like 10 or so. New Pokemon are subjected to Raid only etc the list goes on.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Yeah its awful how much they are out of touch with their community. It's like they don't want the game to succeed

[@krushking643]

My wife was saying that she believes that it feels like Niantic or someone at Niantic is sabotaging pokemon go because literally everything players like they tweak and make it worst, remote raids, the range boost etc

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Honestly, it feels that way most of the time

[@msprecher6507]

Another problem that goes along with remote raids is not being able to do Shadow raids remotely. Smaller communities may not allow players to participate in a local shadow raid. I know I haven't been able to do a legendary shadow raid.

[@XIIIthSpirit]

Here, let me enlighten you. Niantic does not care, at all. Do you understand?

[@lamecgod]

​@@XIIIthSpirit I think it's illegal for the devil to make us humans completely happy. Gets us too close to God.

[@dstr001]

Honestly I dont even buy that the remote nerf was to enforce community play anymore. The fact that they have the gall to use remote raiding limit changes as a "bonus" in certain events now just tells me they tried to be greedy by raising the price and didnt expect players to just stop doing it.

[@brianfoust1216]

The remote raid netf is a double edged sword, i save so much money now, but get less shinies. I really think they need to raise it to 10 and lower the prices. Like yes im saving a ton of money now because im not doing as many raids, but I just feel like it killed all my social raid groups. Definitely a sad situation.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

I agree. They need to meet in the middle

[@kylebaylis13]

How are you saving money its twice as expensive

[@brianfoust1216]

@@kylebaylis13 Not raiding nowhere near as much

[@TheAngryBrave]

​@@kylebaylis13I used to do about 50 raids per week, I'd buy the $4.99 coin bundle and buy 6 raid passes and my free daily every day. Now I do maybe 5 per month if that.

[@tiahio8315]

So true. My local Discord raid group that had hundreds of people a few years ago is completely dead now.

[@D-S-G.]

It kinda sucks that 2023 was a pretty good PoGo year but its dragged down by this godawful change. We all knew Remotes would go up after the pandemic but not by 95%, and removing any way for f2ps to get them efficiently.

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

Yes, exactly. People were ready for a cap, maybe 20 a day, and price increase, maybe to 125 coins. What they did was just spiteful and nonsensical. No need for such a high price and low cap.

[@TreFKennedy]

Dope vid Count and i hope Nerfantic doesn’t think we’re gonna give up, in Restoring the remote raid community, i don’t care what they say, them canceling the remote raid community was the absolute most egregious mistake they’ve ever committed

[@krbcan1]

The remote raid community was not only the community that Niantic destroyed. The remote raid changes also drastically quieted local chats. They are a mere fraction of what they used to be. It demotivated and demoralized players.

[@Nihilisterplayz]

I haven't raided the whole week of december been going the free to play route getting my coins from gyms catching pokemons

[@Razzspoons]

It's never coming back, get over it

[@TreFKennedy]

@@Razzspoons sure thing troll

[@krbcan1]

@@Razzspoons Having a defeatist attitude certainly isn't going to change things.

[@pokepizza]

To this day, I'll never understand why a company would want to nuke their most valued source of revenue. I understand the game is about going outside but times have changed ever since the pandemic. Remote raiding has introduced a new audience of players who are unable to go outside. You can't just open pandora's box and then try to put it back and expect everybody to be okay with it. Of course people are going to be upset with these changes. They took away a great feature that made the game more accessible to the disabled and rural players! Why a company would want to make something less accessible to those players, I'll never understand.

[@flamingwrecker2598]

The nerf to remote raids is the worst thing they ever did especially to rural players and players with disabilities who cannot go outside to raid in person. Also I find it Finn that they need remote raids but spoofing and multi accounting is still going on not being punished at all especially spoofers they are running rampant and are not facing consequences. Would love to hear your thoughts on that.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

In fact, they encouraged more spoofing because of the Remote Raid nerf.

[@BorderFreak]

Honestly when it comes to just spoofing your location don't really see the problem with it only see the problem when it comes to all the extra cheaty things that are associated with spoofing

[@Razzspoons]

​@@CountJinsulaOfficialIf you resorted to spoofing because of the remote raid nerf, then you never enjoyed the game in the first place

[@Nighthawkracer]

There are very few people raiding in my area now. My raid group is pretty well done for. The only exception is when something new comes out and that is rare.

[@kakaboo]

there are too many games now to play in the comfort of your own home. the novelty of going out to play has already wore off especially during the pandemic where more and more ppl got used to staying at home.

[@irenekragheckell5659]

I think they should have the same price for remote passes that they have for normal passes. They should also allow at least 10 raids a day. If they want people to go out to raid. They could rather nerf the shiny rate and XL candy from the remote passes. Then people who have the possibility to go out and raid, will have a good reason to do so. And still people who have a reason to stay home and raid would be able to without getting broke.

[@Miklo_1]

I play but i don’t spend any money. I hate Niantic because of this double charge to raid. Raids give a sense of community when people help you raid. And i love helping others defeat the 5 star bosses but I can’t because it’s too expensive. It’s a sad game. No one in lobby anymore like before.

[@Garlictoastify]

Thanks for speaking about this. I am a chronically ill player, and I live in a extremely rural little community in Sweden. There is one gym and 5 pokestops here (and I created 3 of those pokestops) My pokemon usually stays in the gym for days, sometimes up to a week before getting knocked out. There are never any other players around for raids at that single gym, so I usually just raid only the ones I can solo, so 1 and 3 star ones. It takes a literal half hour by car to get closer to any sort of a more regular civilization, no matter wich direction I choose to travel. But that is not enough, if I want to get to a place where I can actually raid 5 stars with enough other players, I need to travel another half an hour at minimum so at least 1 whole hour one way and then another hour back home again. And with my health that is simply not possible, I do not have the physical strength to do that, and I also cannot afford it when it comes to the monetary cost of it. Being chronically ill in Sweden also means being kinda poor. I cannot afford anymore than the bare necessities needed to keep living really... So for me remote raiding was the only way of getting those 5 star raids done. And now since my pokemon is more or less a permanent defender with just a few sets of breaks of the one and only local gym I simply don't make that many coins. And I must prioritize upgrading storage for pokemon and sometimes items before buying any remote raid passes. So I buy remote passes only to get a singular pokemon of any raid boss above 3 stars that I do not have yet. So for me personally I agree that the remote nerf was the worst thing Niantic has done in 2023...

[@TreFKennedy]

4:12 you need to ask those trolls why are they comfortable with Nerfantic waging war against the remote raid community Count

[@alfiesmullet1311]

I used to remote raid a lot, but i also used to do a lot more 5 star raids in person.. now i can't do either because nobody wants to usedl remote passes to join raids when i go out.. so i just do a 1/3 star raid on my lucnch break and dont play much other than that these days.. for me it made me go outside to play even less

[@D1zzle777]

Fully agree.aside from your thoughts to leave the remote limits the same....Niantic have to increase daily limits to 10 or15 at least....Remote nerf destroyed the global communities and friendships people had built up...Niantic is spending far too much energy trying to improve local communities..What they should be doing is improving global community play options....Raids are the key part of that, but also allowing worldwide trades,worldwide party play,worldwide gifting where we can gift items from our inventories. End result was for Niantic to destroy the game for the majority of players. In reality the majority of players would prefer to have the choice to play with far away friends rather than being forced to play and meet up in person...Niantic are in essence stupid when it comes to player and business decisions alike...JUST LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYER BASE FFS.....Successful companies listen to their customers,rather than stick ✌️ up at us all.....

[@edmondYJ]

If the Remote Raid passes were the same, Niantic would probably be making MORE money but sadly, people are still buying the passes up the ass.

[@Norrin_Raddical]

I’m sure all those grandmas in Singapore aren’t bothered by the remote raid nerfs…great example of how in sync niantic is with their player base. But seriously the price increase to the remote raid passes was an insult. I can deal with a daily limit, should be 10, but the cost of the remote passes is really prohibitive. I’ve cut down my monthly spend on this game considerably after the change and try to be as close to free to play as possible (I still spend a little but not much). Like you I still enjoy the game, raiding has never been big draw for me but now it’s even less. Just means that I’ll never get the chance to really enjoy open master league to its full extent, really wish they would incorporate ML Premier more often into the GBL seasons.

[@lanapearce9968]

Let's also remember that they promised great and exciting things this year to compensate for the remote raid nerf, we got routes, party play and Mateo, that are all uninteresting and offer no great rewards. I'd rather have more Team Rocket events and Jessie and James back, or even some new teams to battle against.

[@Gen_Vauge]

I just started playing Pokemon go for the first time since 2016-2017 and I'm honestly extremely sad to hear I could have actually been able to raid. I live in a rural area and legitimately don't have anyone around to play.

[@grantbriscoe8764]

I agree it was an awful thing they did to the game. But, their biggest game ruiner was the way they refused to acknowledge their players' petitions and showed they have zero respect towards honoring their promises of communicating with their p[layers. I could take the awful nerf. But I almost quit over the communication.

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

The people running the game are actually awful, horrible people, which is the thing that has soured it all even more. Steranka, Wu, Haneke - every interview they have given shows them up as inconsiderate, incoherent and spiteful. Steranka especially on Twitter only seems to pop back up to make smarmy toxic comments. That’s why I have little hope they will improve things, as they really don’t care about people as individuals, or communities, just data points to farm.

[@XIIIthSpirit]

@@duncanmeatbreak1724 Wow! I am shocked to see someone doing their research! Who would have guessed that the people behind all of this are evil? Inversion. They are being taught that being this way is a "good" thing. But failed to acknowledge the massive butterfly effect that is has on EVERYONE who dares to go near their product.

[@anthonykarem]

Nope. All wrong. Niantic is a crap company headed by the most BS CEO in the world, John Hankey. I honestly would like to see pokemon go managed and developed by another company at this point. Niantic has done nothing but screwthings up for this game at every possible turn and Count Jinsula needs to understand that Pokemon go had the potential to be very good and amazing even. But, not when Niantic is involved. Niantic was a no name company before Pokemon Go. I can guarantee that there is not one person in Count Jinsula's audience who has heard of this trashbag company before Pokemon go. Until, Niantic gives up the rights to this game, that is the only positive change that can occur as far as Pokemon go is concerned and deep down, Count Jinsula most likely agrees with me.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

I do agree with you to a sense. Not sure why you think I'm sucking up to Niantic in this video lol. I thought I was being pretty critical as I usually am.

[@anthonykarem]

@@CountJinsulaOfficial I didn't say you are sucking up to Niantic but, I would like you or someone in your audience to come at me with confirmation that they heard of Niantic prior to POGO. Also, you need to say in a video that Niantic is the worst company that could have chosen to manage and develop Pokemon go. It is obvious to everyone here. To anyone who does not agree with me, please give this comment a dislike.

[@TheVK23]

@@anthonykaremthey are driven by money and they don’t listen to the community nobody cares about party play or routes but niantic just promotes them. Btw I made a route 3 months ago I still haven’t got a confirmation

[@RoseApperley]

This remote raid change sucked, i can only occasionally raid now, it is so expensive i just can't justify it. Now, i miss my online friends, i can't build online friendships the same way, and what is wrong with an online community? In person raids are seriously hard to organize, and people will make the effort for a hoopa, but for yet another genesect? Really? Not everyone lives in Tokyo with 100 gyms and millions of players.

[@gellyzer0949]

The incense nerf is up there with the remote raids

[@JosephVeee]

Go fest and tours are a cool idea but it would be nice if they had a more local/regional version of them. Traveling to another country isnt a real option for 98% of players.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

I agree. I think the city safaris were a good start to this very issue. Maybe if they had more of them, more players can experience the in-person events and the bonuses

[@EddieJiuJitsu]

This dude and PokeAk are the real ones!!!

[@michaelreinke6476]

I use remote raid pass to farm golden raspberry. And I hate that we can only use 5 raid pass a day.

[@sumilidon]

Niantic lost a lot of good will. Only reason they haven’t gone belly up is the IP. Anyone else remember Peridot, yeah me neither? They tried latching onto another popular IP in Monster Hunter, but I don’t feel like it will be as popular as POGO. Honestly the only thing POGO still has going for it is the 1/20 shiny legendary rate. Most other mons can be shiny hunted easily in the mainline games.

[@elec06YT]

I think there is a very persuasive saboteur in nerfantic headquarters causing things like the rrp nerf

[@RF1octane]

I would have been doing regigigas on and off on my free time, but now i dont even try to do it on a freeraid pass 👎🏻

[@KingofFray]

July 2023, the day I came back since my hiatus from 2017. I guess I came back at the worst time huh?

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

You missed all the good years 🥲

[@KingofFray]

@@CountJinsulaOfficial back then I never knew the community existed. I gain a lot after that

[@Gen_Vauge]

How does anyone actually spoof in the game currently?

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Don't do it you'll get banned

[@DamianRavenhold]

I am so sad that I stopped playing in 2019 and didnt return until just a month ago. Missed out on what looks like a golden age

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Pokémon GO was at its peak during COVID, ironically

[@DamianRavenhold]

@@CountJinsulaOfficial I have been told that many times. Truly a shame that I missed it 🥲

[@paidactor5545]

Was a brilliant game during Covid

[@Razzspoons]

It was terrible during COVID. The game is at its peak now, you came back at the right time 💪

[@420_10_Hour_Sounds]

I used to play legit until remote raids were nerfed. I now own 2 rooted andriods and run a Discord selling Pokemon Go spoofing services. Niantic makes $0 from me now and I just piggy back the game for self income.

[@doublecomplex4741]

Raiding non-remotely is way less fun than it used to be too. T5 bosses are stale, don’t even have their special moves and require only 2-3 trainers to defeat it. Finding any specific boss is made only slightly easier by Campfire, and you still have to drive across the city to find one. Too many bosses that nobody cares about, with no increased spawning of a featured pokemon - obvs with the exception of Raid hours and Raid days…

[@jerseys89finest]

I picked the game up again and spent money all year. Even up to this most recent one and got a shiny. I dont understand why change thar up when it brings in money. Its not free. I spent a lot of money this year. Not overkill but more than buying the regular games. Now its out of hand.

[@ThatGuyJay44]

Not to defend Niantic, but I’ve also been curious if Nintendo forced them to limit the remote raiding due to influx of legendaries transferred into Pokemon Home.

[@krbcan1]

why would Nintendo care about that?

[@TreFKennedy]

6:08 count , respectfully the green passes are more valuable because you can use them for GBL and raids, while with remote raids you can only use them for raids

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

To be fair, I don't think anyone ever uses them in GBL

[@OdeForCruelty]

​​​@@CountJinsulaOfficialSometimes during Go Battle Day -events there's been good awards in premium battle sets, like guaranteed rare XL candy after only two wins in a single set. I know at least a few people drowning in green passes who see that as an opportunity to grind them during it.

[@lanceuppercut9715]

This game has too many in-person events for Niantic to nerf the remote raids like they did. The only things that allow us to play from home is remote raids and PvP, so nerfing remote raids was so unnecessary and a big middle finger to the community.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

I agree. Rather than nerfing remote raids, they should just add more community gameplay and more rewards to in-person raids

[@lanceuppercut9715]

@@CountJinsulaOfficial Couldn’t agree more!!

[@mgakidd]

It’s not just rural players like me. It was cruel to introduce a way for the ill, the disabled, the whatever to play, and then throw up a barrier. I’m noticing a lot of spoofing in my area. I’m ready to join them.

[@PeteJohnsMusic]

The word “nerf” makes me laugh every time. I’m clearly a child. 😅

[@hughjassol2072]

This change will only affect the very small 0.000000001 percent of players who do daily raids. The vast majority of players, don’t raid at all. So it’s hurting a very small honestly insignificant amount of players. The game has been downloaded over 1 billion times, yet only has a daily players base of 5 million. It was 116 daily in 2019, and 232 million in 2016. Most people hop on once a week, spin a poke stop or 2, send some gifts, and catch a few Pokémon. Niantic should be more worried about bringing back the billion players who dont play anymore. But instead, they are trying to get more money out of the few hardcores.

[@Duelerama90]

After nearly getting punched by another player at an IRL raid and seeing a tweet of gun action at another, I'm really scared to raid or even play with strangers anymore IRL

[@Big_Krone]

Just don't spend money on free games. You don't need to run the same raid 40 times. Daily free pass is plenty.

[@mrmoose6619]

Niantic needs to stop talking out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to remote raids as well. Case in point: the Regional 5* Raids that we are getting next week at time of this comment. We want you to raid locally... but for those of you in the Americas and Greenland (I assume this is the core audience here) in order to get the best non-shadow electric type and #2 overall or one of the best non-shadow bug types and #5 overall you MUST raid remotely. Sorry Americas/Greenland, you get the least buzzworthy (pun intended) of the three Ultra Beasts, which is not top 10 overall in Bug or Fighting. So they want us to raid locally, but make the 5* bosses regionalized... and give me the one that is outranked by one of the other regional bosses in one typing and 3 budget counters(!) in the other typing! You cannot be serious, Niantic! (Ranking Source: Pokemon Go Hub Database)

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

I agree. What's the point of regional raids if we can't remote as much? It's so dumb

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

Besides these types of hypocritical game designs, they have yet to give any kind of coherent reasons for killing off raiding and communities in the first place.

[@alexhunter5712]

Love your content

[@paidactor5545]

I've saved so much money doesn't make me wanna go out and play in person i just don't bother playing

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Yeah that's the result. It's not what Niantic wanted but it's what they ended up getting

[@paidactor5545]

@@CountJinsulaOfficial It's just ticket after ticket now to try and claw back the lost revenue from it, if i didn't have thousands of hours invested i would have walked away by now but i tend to just do com days now, check house spawns and let the Gotcha handle the outdoor play, I used to remote with a local raid group and even tho we live pretty close we all have jobs and families or just don't enjoy social situations so never really met up so remotes were convenient since the changes it hasn't made us meet up we just don't play and the chat is pretty much dead, was a good run but Ninatic is only interested in our wallets and not our views and won't acknowledged their player base are all grown up now and are fully capable of choosing how we spend our money and if we wanna do 100 remotes in a day we will. Thanks for keeping this topic alive 2016 is gone someone tell John Hanke that 😅

[@rqn1998]

In response to spoofing now after all the attempts to tell players to stop doing it they should simply terminate their accounts no warning! Thats dragged on way too long now.

[@dapelsang23]

I always had bad feeling about remote passes being downfall of this game. Ever since the feature was introduced to the game

[@sigisoltau6073]

Not sure about that. With remote raids, more rural areas and players can join in on difficult raids. Or high level players like myself can help these more rural areas and players. That's how I feel about it. I've seen Niantic claim they're such an inclusive company, yet many of the changes they made this year are pushing rural communities and players away and out of the game, so that only urban players are the ones left in the game.

[@charlesschwartz7284]

With the money they want now. 10$ gets you 3 raids I could use that 10$ for food drinks or an other game that gives me my money's worth no matter what I spend. Alot of people and friends went back to console game or PS5 where it's warm and cozy now freezing and raining but again niantic knows everything and making changes to benefit them because they wasn't getting enough data blah blah. Remote raiding saved this game but how many times can a game be saved when players just don't care anymore.

[@choochoo8828]

I’m finding that they don’t give enough free ones either

[@inVINCEible64]

Personally, I feel that the layoffs at Niantic would have happened anyway even if there no changes to the remote raid passes.

[@grantsingle]

Oh negasaur....

[@hughjassol2072]

Niantics only philosophy is, make more money and spend less money. Since they will never get back to the 2016 or 2019 pre Covid player base. In order to make more money, is to nickel and dime the few players they still have.

[@Zahoua2013]

idk if im the onely one but you can get one for free thow the 7 days box

[@claywise1372]

Raiding is tedious, boring, & just waaaayyy too expensive in its current format.

[@CherylLovesSobek]

Fleeceking did that video on twitter with over 1M views majority of players me included totally agree with him! Guess what? Theyve completely ignored yet again theyre pathetic!

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

He is one of the biggest players too. You would think they would pay attention to someone with that much time invested in the game

[@CherylLovesSobek]

@@CountJinsulaOfficial Exactly! It's just sheer ignorance on Niantics part .

[@Razzspoons]

​@@CherylLovesSobekFleeceking is a baby (and a former scammer). He doesn't speak for the majority at all

[@CherylLovesSobek]

@@Razzspoons I disagree as he's got a hell of alot of people agreeing with him and raised fair and true points! So what if he's spoofed in the past there's way way worse happening in the world. I think he spoke clear and precise nothing babyish from him.

[@travishomewood8657]

I think they should have left the prices the same or maybe only a 50% increase. The daily limit doesn't matter to a lot of folks, especially the Free to play players. we can only get so many coins by gym-ing all week, but it was enough to get a 3 pack of remote raid passes once a week for raid hour. It can take multiple raids to get a good IV or the shiny. If you wanna go hard after one specific one then you can at least still do that in person. The rural and disabled players are disadvantaged and that is unfortunate. Especially since there were rumors this was coming, and those of us that could have gotten up and walked 10-15 minutes to get to the local park and done in person raids, didn't. We took advantage of the remote raid to not disrupt our comfort.

[@1soonerrf5]

This rural player has done only 3 legendary remote raids in December. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

You did more than me 🫠

[@Rose_J]

I’ve recently stopped playing PoGo. I’m really a console player - you know, those pay-once-and-play-forever games? FTP games are just not for me apparently, judging by how NOT FTP PoGo is. Compared to any console Pokémon game, PoGo is just slimy. I really hate Niantic and their greedy practices. Still, they don’t like me either, or any players who can’t afford them for that matter. And let’s be honest, except for whales, nobody can afford them.

[@scoogyskoogz1869]

Pay once and play forever don’t exist anymore for newer games yeah you can play them all for free but good luck getting anything irrelevant without spending

[@olddog2706]

I heard from a Pokémon iceberg video that Nintendo think Nintendo switch will fail, because “mobile game too popular these days, people don’t want to carry a console” hence we got a really mid pkm sword/shield. Now put 2+2 together , i think it make sense for the Pokémon company to nerf the mobile version of pkm, which is pkm go. So pkm scarlet violet can shine Personally I rather do raid in pkm go (before the remote nerf) than raid in scarlet

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

I think they're playing the long game. Community brings longevity.

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

They killed off all the communities though.

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

@@duncanmeatbreak1724 how so?

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

@@We_Are_All_Vultures by killing raiding, and all the community engagement and support that went with it

[@Razzspoons]

​@duncanmeatbreak1724 Wrong, in person communities have been thriving since the nerf 👍 cry more

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

@@Razzspoons you seem nice. Par for the course. You guys really are a great advert for meeting people in person.

[@doublecomplex4741]

IMO the price is still fair, but they should have increased it more slowly. The cap should be way higher, like 15 or 20. Such a bad business decision!

[@jeffreyharrison1081]

There is no meet us in the middle ten cent raids available to everyone get all cheating out of the game

[@kenmiller2323]

Honestly, I’m one of the few who never liked remote raids in the first place. I use POGO as a fitness game and remote raids killed my motivation for exploring and playing while traveling. I don’t like the fact everyone has everything. I thought it was cool and unique that ppl in certain places had certain pokemon. It made it feel tangible in a way like i accomplished something or like the pokemon world was real. When I caught a wild dragonite after I flew across the country I told ppl about it. Now just raid or wait for an event you’ll get everything. I still motivate myself to play for my own collection reason and I’m OD about it (shiny dark types 😵‍💫) lol but my peers play just bcus niantic says to play. I know ppl who don’t even know Pokemon but spend hundreds on raiding a month just to say I’m better than you. Some ppl r not mature enough to handle this game it’s essentially gambling. I’m glad they ended remote raiding it lasted too long tho the game is destroyed now. It’s just gambling. I always envisioned this game being a cool AR or 3D interactive type of game ya know. Like you could meet up at a mall and have a battle on a big display screen with holographic images 😂 I’m asking for a lot but. I thought this game would be something besides gambling and pay to win and pay for shinys … it’s not fun. My GBC emulator is still more fun than this I’m playing crystal legacy way more fun lol

[@Royvankalken023]

Remote Raid Pass Nerf bad move.....

[@mraaronjosephbonnici]

i actually don't mind the nerf. I have spent HUNDREDS in a single night. hours just doing remote after remote. for hundo landorus, beldums, lugia and many more... But now, instead of spendings hundreds in a night. i spend nothing, and do more gbl, buddy and gifts and almost every rocket balloon. i still get hundo's and those moments of OMG! only leave my house while playing for meta raid hours and rocket events. Rocket events are 100% the funnest times.

[@leonardmargison6899]

The game sucks now!!

[@rqn1998]

No way! No big deal at all removing lazy ass remote raids. You can still do them but have to pay as the game is designed to get off your arse and GO! Remote raids were just a covid workaround.

[@Familyfirst1971]

Of course you agree with it your big city is rural are done hope nerfantic is forced out pogo 2024 😂

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

I don't live in an urban area rofl. I play in a suburb

[@bretwentzel8824]

This is all you talk about bro grow up and move on like everyone else

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

Sshhh.

[@epicdave6130]

First

[@aaronwheeler9322]

Beating a dead horse...get over it and move on

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

Sounds like you also need to get over it and move on

[@traverserred]

Remote Raids were killing the game. It finally seems like the game is getting back to normal. I never stopped doing in person raids even during the peak of remote raids. I'm finally starting to see people at raids again. The problem is the "Remote Raid Community" People who would normally go out and do a raid were sitting at home doing tons of raids from people all over the world and thus less people were going to raids in person leading to it being harder for normal players to get a group to beat strong raids. I keep hearing people say but what about people with disabilities who cant go outside. I'm not sure why they decided to play a game where they have to go outside... they could solve the problem for disabled people by just letting you use a regular pass on any gym you can see from where you are. but if they did that it still wouldn't be enough because its not about that, its about people not wanting to go outside to play, not that they cant.

[@CringeFest2000]

If you're seeing people come out more again, you're very much in the minority. Most people who used to do remote raids didn't switch to in-person raids, they just stopped raiding altogether. A lot of the "normal" players you're talking about also have had to stop doing in-person raids because no one is showing up in person, and now they also can't get anyone to remote in. That's the situation for me; I walk to play all the time, but I can't do raids unless I can solo them because ain't no one showing up one way or another. For a lot of people, killing remote raids just also killed off in-person raiding.

[@Razzspoons]

​@CringeFest2000 I mean thats just anecdotal from your end and outright wrong

[@CringeFest2000]

@@Razzspoons The original comment was anecdotal as well, as is your assertion that I'm wrong. There are no statistical data available to the general public to substantiate either claim, so all anyone has to go on IS anecdotal. The closest thing to statistical data is a look at something like pokegenie, and such a look would show that there are many more open lobbies on a general level now than, say, a year ago, which suggests that people trying to host raids are finding less people to host them for (which was what I said). That's not a precise method for several reasons, but neither is "you're wrong", and again, we don't have precise methods at our disposal.

[@lanapearce9968]

Let's also remember that they promised great and exciting things this year to compensate for the remote raid nerf, we got routes, party play and Mateo, that are all uninteresting and offer no great rewards. I'd rather have more Team Rocket events and Jessie and James back, or even some new teams to battle against.