Battlefield 2042 Beta First impressions of Plane Gameplay with the American F-35E Panther.

[@GloomToon]

Flying is almost impossible on here, the jets just lag across the map and the jet cannons velocity is garbage, same for the miniguns on all the helis

[@starkilla102]

The controls for the air vehicle is hard to get used too(i play too much bf4), but 1 the free fire launcher needs to do more damage, so do all the cannons, i feel like they are pea shooters, even the missiles feel weak. They gotta fix all that

[@GloomToon]

@@starkilla102 same, I’m used to jets on bf4 and 3 with a controller on Xbox but the jets on here just don’t feel right. The jets seem slow and turn pretty slow as well. If you’re on controller switch your control scheme to alternate and it’ll be the same as bf4

[@cameronwatson4479]

I guess it helps that it's a beta. Hopefully it smoothens out in the official release /:

[@3225becca]

It works perfectly for me

[@vgod2287]

Drecrease the Rockets, buff the minguns. I loved them in bf4

[@IsaacH69]

The aircraft controls on console are so weird, I’ve had an easier time on bfv. I hope by launch they’ll have bf4 classic presets

[@Chrisxx-tv3xu]

I think some battlefront characteristics in the flying of the game. One cool thing they added was the effects of ur screen turning black or red due to +G and -G force

[@Whiskers4169]

Yeah

[@anthonygallo4908]

I agree. Seems like a lot of people are saying it has easier flight mechanics but I felt like I had much better control in bf4

[@Henlak-]

Battlefront has good flight mechanics. Responsive controls, simplistic but a good skill gap and it works well on a controller The jets in BF2042 feel really awkward to fly and frankly unresponsive

[@austinschmitz7904]

@@Henlak- as a big pilot in all bf I agree needs a lot of work simple is better. Tbh don’t mind helicopter controls though

[@gOrLaMiii]

Flying in bf4 seems better in terms of mechanics, i hope they fix this.

[@YamatoPower9000]

Also hope for an interesting loadout... Ground Guided Missles in particular, those are my fav.

[@bradyruth2487]

Yup, both jets and helis have very clunky and casual controls right now

[@Zesrii]

@@bradyruth2487 The choppers feel very similar to BF4 and this is coming from a chopper enthusiast. Jets do feel terrible tho

[@alh5470]

Bf3 had the best flight mechanics IMO, but yea hope they fix this.

[@Darkstar198]

What are you talking about? Battlefield has had more or less the same flight model since BF3. BFV was their only attempt at applying energy to turn radius, with mixed results. The fact that he's had no use for afterburner in dogfights speaks volumes for how awful the modeling is.

[@imaysin97]

Loved the PowerPoint slides you snuck in between the video.

[@tomcg11]

Such a chad

[@1C3B43R]

Aye I’m da GUNT gobbler

[@MasterQueef3762]

Wdym?

[@1C3B43R]

I GUNT gobblers

[@erikaicarman3184]

I really hope the vehicles have a skill ceiling like bf3 and 4

[@imatoaster7831]

Everything has a skill ceiling, you Said exactly nothing with this comment

[@lukas5201]

@@imatoaster7831 chill dude...

[@Delantho]

@@imatoaster7831 lol we're still pushing the skill ceiling of battlefield 2's air vehicles in 16 year old game

[@imatoaster7831]

@@Delantho That might be, But Theres a ceiling for human skill etc. Like, its always there

[@blakee4974]

Hopefully. Sadly the air vehicles are horrible to maneuver with controller and spotting ground enemies in a jet is like trying to see ants from the top of a three storey building. They just feel way too.. stiff?

[@thesaladbowl2821]

I’m yelling at the screen, shouting “z”! So glad to see nicca uploading again

[@guilhermebombaca1216]

Pain when he doesn't know the button when they are all on the screen

[@SpeedKing..]

Jets feel too slow. Like even bf5 planes were faster than this

[@centurionK8]

Wooden planes are even faster than this F-35 in new Battlefield xd

[@themodestpineapple9236]

The Russian plane is way more fast and agile

[@bronzydog7665]

WW2 planes weren't made of wood except for the Mosquito lol.

[@bronzydog7665]

@@totemanz9474 That was uncalled for.

[@bad_pilot13official]

@@totemanz9474 tf

[@baguettecat1227]

I think Z to change flight mode, it litteraly show up what button for when u got Vtol Accidentally.

[@AtayBritishBrns]

At 3:18 that Sukhoi 57 is doing Mister X’s moves

[@randallmart92]

Seriously LMAO!!! The Belkans be all over the world xD

[@ing8404]

"He's in the clouds"

[@eruseanumber1505]

Glory to Erusea.

[@quarol732]

The belkan witchcraft strikes again

[@crucial0072]

Those damn Belkans.

[@solidzack]

As someone who mainly flies planes in Battlefield games I think the inability to turn while looking back is a fine way to nerf the ability. I'd go a step further and say it shouldn't exist in the first place as the scariest thing for a pilot is someone tailing you and not being able to look behind you, which adds to the experience IMO (Jets in hardcore get so much more intense when someone is tailing you because you can't switch to 3rd person and free look only allows you to slightly look behind your shoulders)

[@short-eu7bs]

jets nowadays have cameras all over them that pilots can look at and see all around their jet

[@solidzack]

@@short-eu7bs that changes things though I feel like you should still see those camera footages within first person only as it would decrease visibility. In Battlefield 4 you sae everything when looking and spotting backwards. You hear a lockon, just look backwards, look out for the stinger trail and spot the infantry and in your next strafe drop a jdam on his head

[@RedLancerMoto]

@@short-eu7bs Well this is a game and that's real life. If you wanted realism then you'd see people getting drone-striked from miles away.

[@short-eu7bs]

@@RedLancerMoto Yea but you seemed to be referring to real life when you were talking about the scariest part about being a pilot is not knowing where your opponent was in a dogfight.

[@RedLancerMoto]

@@short-eu7bs I think you're confusing me for the original poster. I didn't say that.

[@joecrumpet]

You’d think a game with no campaign would be a lot more optimised than this. Say what you want about betas, I’ve played my fair share and they almost always never change at launch

[@gabrielpinheirodecarvalho8023]

Pretty sure the inability to turn while looking back was intentional, maybe to prevent players to just keep turning until the jet behind gives up and incentivize them to actually try some maneuvers

[@nate8867]

I feel like any halfway decent pilot would want to be able to look behind. Not sure the logic of nerfing that

[@baconatoromg6062]

@@nate8867 he just explained it. It stops pilots using the better turn fighter to make it a circle fight untill he bores the other fighter.

[@nate8867]

@@baconatoromg6062 it doesn’t stop you from doing anything it just restricts your view to forward. It is a quality of life feature more than a gameplay one.

[@baconatoromg6062]

@@nate8867 without being able to look back you are basically unable to determine if a jet is right behind you or not. Therefore the style of turning untill your opponent gets bored is much harder to pull off.

[@nate8867]

@@baconatoromg6062sounds like you don’t know what the hell you’re doing. It’s probably a bug anyways

[@l3w1scal11]

I've noticed that they've severely nerfed helis and jets. They feel too slow and clunky. It takes 6 rockets from the lil bird to kill 1 person. Also i swear everyone has some sort of aa launcher.

[@oreoking1756]

I feel like the buzzards are better than they were in battlefield 4, but the Apache attack helicopters aren’t as good, but I kinda like that they aren’t because they were really overpowered in battlefield 4. Jets I feel like are pretty good though. At first I didn’t like it but I got used to it and they’re really nice. That’s just my opinion tho

[@dmtjuulpod]

@@oreoking1756 I think the attack helis were definitely very powerful in bf4, however I dont think they were overpowered. AA was incredibly strong in bf4 and the map design made it so that in order to really do work with the attack heli you absolutely needed to deal with mobile AA first and then stay on top of anyone shooting AA missiles at you from the ground or other vehicles. I think the attack heli should be the most powerful thing in the game when used correctly, It took skill you communicate with your pilot/gunner in order to do well in bf4, anyone whos tried to use attack helis with a randoms knows it usually doesnt end well. I do agree with everything else you said though.

[@est_.95x49]

@@dmtjuulpod have you felt the pain of what getting farmed on siege of Shanghai ? a map which has no mobile AA

[@messerschmitt_bf109]

The helicopters feel all super light and nimble, I shouldn't be able to whip around the mi 24 as easily as the little bird

[@dmtjuulpod]

​@@est_.95x49 I'm usually the farmer in that scenario KEKW

[@davinci69]

The thing i dont like about jets in this game, is that they are basically as fast as helicopters

[@danksanchez4324]

Well in the game no they’re a lot faster but if it were to be supersonic it wouldn’t make sense for gameplay

[@CMike_]

no they aren't, they are 5-10x faster then helicopters

[@saatlerucuzolsun]

@@CMike_ dude have you ever played any bf games?

[@Fergus_Fam]

jets are way faster, its just that he hasn t used the afterburner ability half the vid (boost that plane has)

[@hightiergod2182]

I wish the flying controls for controllers weren’t so shit lmao

[@blackbeard1988]

Helicopters feel nothing like 4. Super jumpy, and hard to control. Not skill hard, just different. It is a beta though so we'll see

[@andrewlyons2638]

I had to set custom keybinds

[@dankboi9544]

@@andrewlyons2638 what are ur key binds?

[@AmmoR1des]

@@blackbeard1988 feels like cod controls and i hate that. Bf3/4 controls were top tier

[@stonedjesus1162]

@@blackbeard1988 on controller, I really like the controls for helicopters, my only problem is that when I try to land and repair, if I scrape the ground, I just blow up

[@Sledgehammer1944]

It is funny to see that Dice actually could produce a game that has worse flight mechanics than BF5 on release

[@TubeYouGuy]

Great to see you back. Let's go Niccaman!

[@edmundojosezuazuachapa1612]

I just hope that whenever they fix this they are able to balance the game. I like both infantry and vehicles but dont want vehicles to be extremely over powered like in BF4. Game mechanics like re supply, self repair, and damaging parts of the vehicle were some good implementations in their respective games. Hope they balance everything

[@albinorhino6]

Ya I’m not liking the auto resupply and auto repair. I think the system in BF5 worked ok, because it forced vehicles to leave the combat area sometimes. This new system seems like jets and helos will have a constant presence, and it seems too easy.

[@TheRealSpicySucc]

Attrition ruined vehicles in bf5. Vehicles in bf4 only powerful in good player's hands.

[@gracecalis5421]

They literally just have to copy-paste Ace Combat flight mechanics, man. It'd be so easy. And they should make the playable airspace a lot bigger so they can make these planes a lot faster. Right now they feel slow as fuck.

[@kylemelia2112]

Not even ace combat, but bf1, 3 or 4 and it would be pretty good

[@jacobwhicker8423]

But what about attacking ground targets.. to me it feels a lot faster when flying low altitude and focusing on the ground targets so maybe the feeling of slow speed is caused by lack of references in the sky

[@gracecalis5421]

@@jacobwhicker8423 There's plenty of references. It's slow as hell. The speed that the jets fly on average during the beta should be the stall speed. The biplanes in BF1 or the propellor planes in BF5 feel better to fly, for goodness sake.

[@christianarboleda7872]

I would try making sharp turns with afterburners. Cutting the power and turning will make you bleed off tremendous amount of airspeed. I think that's making the aircraft look so sluggish.

[@adamgeigerjr6995]

Given DICE's radio silence just a couple months before their game releases, seeing the state in which it is, I am not surprised whatsoever

[@leo86channel]

You know the beta is a build from 2 months ago right?

[@adamgeigerjr6995]

@@leo86channel you know Beta is just a new term for demo right? real betas have now become alpha tests mate

[@THEREDBARON777]

I hope they make modern flying fun.... so far not really hyped for flying ( was mainly a pilot in bf1/bf5)

[@markwhoeverdafuck4114]

Bf5 flying was amazing, atleast for a while

[@makfrags14]

3:24 that's some next level belkan witchcraft

[@popot4627]

They've listened to their community so far, I'm sure they'll fix the jet mechanics by launch.

[@reeceleach6233]

I mean its a two month old build I don't think it would be that hard either

[@BlessedSeal]

VTOL transport and jet combo on the building is legit op

[@sam8404]

2:08 BFV had tons of people pulling back on the throttle, it was never abandoned.

[@dirtperson7893]

The jets seem so slow and floaty

[@norcal9168]

fr its just floating and you point it any direction stays the same speed feels like a mobie gamne

[@rotank638]

How are these jets so slow? Like, the WW2 fighters in BF5 were faster than this...

[@mubassirzaman7202]

Janky physics, also, the fighters in those games were more small and nimble, not as agile as these jets. You can't fly a f22 low to the ground but you can with a p mustang.

[@norcal9168]

@@mubassirzaman7202 you sound stupid if anything the ww2 fighters are more agile they can turn super fast fighter jets take up alot more area to turn but in this video the f35 is turning like a ww1 bi-plane and losing no energy

[@krain.8245]

@@mubassirzaman7202 You can actually fly f22 low to the ground. and jets require more radius to turn because they are heavier and their wings generate less lift thus they need to fly with much higher speed.

[@TRIBEHOUSEEFFECT001]

It's actually quite simple why the jets are so slow. Imagine you choose a jet and immediately fly at Mach 1. How fast do you think you got to the end of the map.

[@rotank638]

@@TRIBEHOUSEEFFECT001 The "end of the map" is entirely contingent on the available airspace. BF2 allowed you to fly a significant distance beyond the boundaries of the playable area and attain much greater altitude than modern Battlefields without the janky stall mechanic -- there was ample airspace for jets to fly 500-1000 kph (still not mach 1, btw). In 2042, the maps are bigger than the largest BF maps, including BF2 -- having the slowest moving jets in the franchise on the largest maps in the franchise is completely counterintuitive. That's not even touching on the fact that choppers can fly faster than the jets' turn radii at lower speeds -- for some reason, 2042 seems to have retained BF5's energy mechanics, and you only increase maneuverability by speeding up, with the greatest turn speeds achieved while on afterburner... which is completely nonsensical in either a game or real-world context.

[@janosto443]

It's so nice to see how much fun you have

[@neonkapawn]

How they still managed to make the jets feel so slow even tho the map is much bigger is beyond me.

[@neonkapawn]

@Adel Medic Im talking in general, not when dog fighting. The jets in bf4 also felt slow in general when just flying around the map.

[@rys4k]

That's how rockets work. It accelerate for some time and than rocket engine turn offs

[@MotherGoosebumps]

The jets actually have realistic flying physics here. Instead of flying smoothly as a video game might have you think, they actually seem to drag across the sky when they turn hard. This is actually an impressive feature

[@darkness8778]

So like thrust vectors?

[@The_Andy_H]

Are you sure it are the physics you're seeing and not just a visual?

[@ccundiff7301]

The countermeasures when I have played are not 100% guaranteed to work as well as jet locks seem to be faster with less reaction for other pilots

[@therer15letters33]

TBH I liked BFVs Limited Ammo/ Self Repair... It required actual Experience & Skill to get Kills + Survive Also: There needs to be a way to look around in the Pilot Seat when in First Person POV! (The Beta was DOPE but was definitely missing things, hopefully we get BFVs Soldier Movement such as Leaning with or without Cover/ Crouch Running/ Laying on your Back, tbh the sliding in 2042s Beta wasn't bad though!)

[@Yash__Gurav]

Lots of love nic and welcome back😉😉😊

[@nathanielhunt102]

Its so good to see him play battlefield again

[@UbiScoop]

I was waiting to see some jet gameplay!

[@Efficacious_]

weren’t we all!!!😂

[@raptortamerdx5900]

There may be bots flying some of the vehicles, but I can't tell. By the time I hopped in, there were no bots luckily (that I could tell), so I had some real fun chasing planes and choppers, especially the planes.

[@SolidMGSnake]

This game is going to have a lot of polishing done over the next year

[@Oz1111]

These planes fly by you in the game is so freaking cool. They got the audio so right on these planes.

[@andrewlyons2638]

Im pretty experienced from bf3 and 4. had over 17k kills. I dont feel very good about these jets. They feel loose and imprecise. Granted ive only flow for a bit but hope they update the flight model a bit

[@shanecullinane7299]

Glad to have you back Nic!

[@SmugSalem]

The countermeasures are completely broken, you are locked and the missile is on your back and you launch the countermeasures but nothing happens and it still hits you

[@davidrodgers8664]

Your back! I found your channel a couple weeks ago and was so sad when I saw you hadn’t posted in months

[@fahmeforge29]

ive seen something weird with the f35. when you go into vtol and fire the missiles with 1 left a secret cannon is fired. a slow rpm but it doesnt kill anyone

[@fpsnocommentary1802]

The pro pilot is back!!! Les gooooo👍👍👍👍

[@DiezALOT3128]

looks like it has the problem from BF4 where the maps are huge for ground units but as soon as you get in a plane the map feels minuscule.

[@pierreLPRD]

Simply bf5 planes physics applied to a jet..

[@randallmart92]

It really does feel that way from what i can tell after playing.

[@MORE_BEANS_PLZ]

This does not look like bf5 planes physics lmao, bf5 planes where alot faster then this (fighters of course) for me personally this feels like the bombers of bf5 lol

[@rcoplien]

Also if you're using a keyboard and mouse to fly for the pitch up you can attach it to the spacebar and it'll actually make you turn tighter this worked well on battlefield 3 and 4

[@kermitdeefrog4131]

congrats on 400k!

[@horstmuller5359]

happy to see ur name back on my yt starter

[@centurionK8]

I´ve been at the TOP 50 players of Spain piloting jets in BF4, in terms of skill and i find this new flying mode much more difficult than the old ones, its unrealistic for me XD

[@randallmart92]

I think its more akin to something like ace combat but a little slower. That or war of warplanes or whatever its called.

[@anthonymolina2802]

Ok “mav” chill out

[@buttered__toast_2899]

Flexing top 50? I have 54,000+ kills on the A10 alone in BF4. This game looks like arcadey trash so I’ve gone back to retro games

[@ing8404]

@@buttered__toast_2899 Idk man... BF4 was pretty "arcady" too

[@hemendraravi4787]

Unrealistic? Bro all battlefield games are unrealistic this makes war thunder look like a hardcore sim

[@thunderface101]

So excited man!! Missing out on the beta cause my wifi has decided to die:( great to still be able to watch some aircraft gameplay from my favourite pilot though 👌🏽

[@rohanalias9053]

I read wifi as wife .I was concerned for a while lmao

[@bad_pilot13official]

@@rohanalias9053 lmao

[@nicefly1556]

not me getting mad at him for not seeing "Z"

[@Flakfire]

lol jamming my visuals, havana syndrome'd

[@alzenaidi6]

At 7:19 I'm dead laughing 😃..I bit you ass got squeezed at that moment 🤣..cool presentation man ...love from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦

[@warpotato5077]

this build of the game is a few months old I believe and it would make sense that they would focus on making the infantry combat good rather than the plane combat

[@Fergus_Fam]

You are not using the chaff countermeasure right, you have to deploy it right when u see the lock on warning (before the missile gets fired towards you). Basically what chaff does is it jams the vision of the device created to make missiles lock onto you. Hope that helps some people with their game!

[@kelljh]

Hope you come back soon! Miss your videos bro hope you’re doing well.

[@dr.chungusphd108]

It’s damn good to see you back In the sky man.

[@goblincleaver_mshm.9751]

finally niccaman is back ...i seriously was concerned for you

[@Fionn237]

Yay you’re back

[@coleismyname803]

When you grapple onto the rocket when you take off you keep going up and you don't die lol

[@Mepo65mc..]

Finally he uploads

[@mekafka6756]

Is it just me or the game takes place in another planet? Why do the the air-vehicles seem to float or glide in air?

[@duncanmcgee13]

I hope thats just a beta thing

[@crocodilepoet]

I believe that's due to the hovering mechanic jets have.

[@mekafka6756]

@@crocodilepoet not necessarily always in a hovering state though They just don't seem to have enough speed

[@bigpharma2705]

@@mekafka6756 have you played bf4? The planes only speed up when you use the after burner.

[@buttered__toast_2899]

@@bigpharma2705 no they don’t

[@luistellez9720]

they need to add a dense white smoke behind the Aim9 so that it looks realistic and more satisfying to watch.

[@EVIL-nr9zs]

Missed your vids man finally 💯

[@hectordanquah1633]

What is that technology.... Lag: You cannot comprehend my powers

[@janoschl2144]

The aileron/rudder on the plane go in the wrong direction. They go up on the left side for a right turn, but should go down.

[@letstacoboutit8205]

I would say this feels like flyng a tie fighter in swbf2

[@Jacob43332]

Not only am I not skilled in flying because I’ve barely played battlefield, but literally the second I spawn into an aircraft someone is locked on to me the entire time lmao. Very annoying

[@rcoplien]

Two things they should have enabled tracker IR while you're in your aircraft so you can look around easier

[@HiroyaFujimiya]

3:20 Belkan Technology!

[@AtayBritishBrns]

“Perfect movement, just like Mihaly”

[@natea4828]

That kept happening to me where every time the plane came into my sights, it would speed forwards super fast! Made me angry!

[@Mralanc]

Awesome gameplay.

[@friedsallad7328]

I like that you can dodge lock ons

[@K41Z3RR]

The most fun thing was at the end when he tried to use the rifle. Damn, now I'm going to think that pilots don't know how to shoot.

[@KILLERMEXICAN210]

Well. They're trained to fly a billion dollar plane....not shoot a gun I think.

[@anthonyyang7286]

ngl this plane footage kind of looks like ace combat a bit

[@ethandavidson7728]

Niccaman is back!!!

[@kanick1983]

Wait a second after you lock... sometimes you can force them to use counter measures in a panic ... and then use missiles when countermeasures are used up

[@nanischoko8150]

Algorythm get this guy back

[@velafresh]

Every time I’m in a jet I instantly get shot down, I completely gave up on flying. Battlefield 1 is the only time I actually had fun in a plane

[@avionx8471]

I like the mechanics it's realistic. It's how a fighter jet should fly. Minus the low stall speeds with exatreamly high AOAs

[@SuperiorAmericanGuy]

They should feature a jet fighter only match in the game where the only thing players can play is aircraft.

[@krellio9006]

That heli pilot kept turning off his engine by moving to other seats and no engine heat means the heatseeker of the missile couldnt track and thus it stopped tracking?

[@MiyagiKilla]

Bro im dissapointed with jets. They need to fix them

[@norcal9168]

they look terrible

[@gabrieladarne343]

Lol i was waiting for nic to post another vid when i check its been 4 weeks hahaha i didnt notice

[@Black_Mesa_Facility]

Proceeds to get in a fighter jet Enemy jets: yo why do I hear Spanish guitars. Me: this twisted game needs to be reset. That’s what V2 is for

[@janosto443]

I love ur videos man

[@eagle_2351]

0:50 It's the su-57 Felon (what's it's based off, I don't know the game name)

[@temaurismirh4467]

Hey nick, you should do a video on the rail gun tank

[@tannerhansen2064]

It’s a vtol… meaning for close ground support like the a-10. The maneuverability is going to be different than say, an f-22

[@shotjon2957]

Jets feel way to slow, and look slow to turn too.

[@ultrametro254]

Yesesssssssss this is what I was waiting for

[@PedroGomes-mt3iz]

So jelly. At least I’ll be able to play in two days

[@alex9996131]

Tbh the aircraft feels way better back in bfv

[@Prodrozer11]

True, i also dont like that you have a couple weapons only like with bfv you have alot of options with specialisations, maybe it gets added later do

[@soapybanana1]

The choppers and jets have really clunky handling, I hope this isn't the case at launch

[@kennethclemons8357]

Oh and you do realize that is just a vehicle respawn timer for when the vehicle will respawn 8:30

[@lelegamer6244]

When I try to zoom in while in first person in my plane it just zooms out. Anyone know how to fix?

[@Warrior_AP]

No, it just feels realistic my friend its called angle of atack