Nick Menza (Megadeth) vs Lars Ulrich (Metallica)

Nick Menza vs Lars Ulrich
1. Take No Prisoners from Rust In Peace
2. Battery from Master of Puppets
Someone asked for it so here is the video

[@Walamonga1313]

I think we all agree that Megadeth has always had better musicians.

[@brandonceballos4228]

Walamonga 1313 cuz they always switch Metallica could too but james is real and doesn't kick them out only dave cuz dave was an alcoholic but i dont think they REGRET it cuz they r more popular than them still

[@Walamonga1313]

Brandon Ceballos Can you rewrite that please?

[@hlyhhhhgvgknghgnfrbk]

True Dave Dave Elifson gar samuleson Chris Poland Nick menza Marty

[@elrikup1179]

Yep

[@jacobw.8094]

Oh, but let's not forget Iron Maiden.

[@net537]

There is no discussion here. Menza is better!

[@SeatLeonMK2]

that soundtrack of menza is fake

[@josearellano3268]

@Martel Herold yes Lars sucks. 😂 Lars is sloppy even today 2021

[@jesussoto6855]

@@SeatLeonMK2 this is a midi track, i think this sounds more realistic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imeZc3WabNSDj5o

[@зот]

@@SeatLeonMK2 doesn't change the fact how bad lars can be

[@christopherfarlow7288]

I reckon it's obvious that Megadeth generally is more technical. I mean, they've had jazz musicians, for fuck's sake, jazz. Jazz is so fucking complex. Chris Poland, that dude could make the guitar cry and he still had chops that Yngwie Malmsteen couldn't do. Insane sweep picking (check his band Ohm and his solo stuff, he has both metal and jazz fusion stuff). Also, Gar Samuelson, jazz fills and double bass, I don't know much about drumming but he sounds quite tight. Marty Friedman, simply amazing, one of the best guitarists of all time along with Chris Poland. Chris Broderick, I could go on forever, Al Pitrelli, Megadeth has had some of the finest musicians ever, I would even dare to say Chris Poland and Marty Friedman are in the league of Joe Satriani, Steve Vai and all of those "virtuosos". Metallica are good, but they never were a technical band. Technique is objective, the only objective thing in music. The rest is opinion. Megadeth is more complex, Metallica might appeal to you more but that's still only an opinion.

[@chrisryan91]

Mensa drummed for ohm

[@sebastiana2060]

this is the best description.

[@Slears]

wow..this Video is really an insult on Nick..

[@pelangatun199991]

That's true and even an offense to ellefson

[@cynthiathomas404]

I don't understand why is it a insult?

[@megaslayer9279]

Cynthia Thomas because you can clearly hear the drums are done by a computer not nick himself

[@josephlalock8378]

@Martel Herold the fuck you say

[@londoncastillo3086]

@Martel Herold WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU SAY?

[@Madmetalmaniac42069]

Lars just wouldn't cut it anywhere but in Metallica... Even HE has personally admitted this. There's no battle here. Any drummer Megadeth have had in the past can pretty much wipe the floor with Lars, plain and simple.

[@frankpeltier1748]

And James Could NEVER have kept up with the stuff Dave would eventually Write, and it Really is that simple, the breakup was Inevitable.

[@norwaydude6]

Frank Peltier: Except for the solos, yes. James is one of the best and fastest rythm guitarists in the world.

[@Bajsamajsa]

Frank Peltier Guess you couldnt be more wrong, james is a way faster guitarist.

[@theextinctsurgeon310]

Frank Peltier Except James right hand was blessed by satan and daves was by his grandmother

[@williamdawson4023]

GTAfan421 well when Lars still practiced which he doesn't he would have had a better chance

[@bigdick671]

Lars is a performer that plays drums, Nick is a drummer that performs, I’ll let you decide which is more impressive

[@MetalLife]

100% agree

[@charlenepickett5706]

Lars has his own skill set and he is a Capricorn like me and we are multitalented!!

[@CaptainOffensive]

@@charlenepickett5706 How the hell are zodiac signs supposed to have anything to do with being talented?

[@kaanjusuf]

@@charlenepickett5706hate to break it to you but Lats is a huge fuck up and he thinks he’s way better than he is or ever was

[@Svnt92]

​@@charlenepickett5706 what is blud talking abt

[@kondred3985]

R.I.P. Nick Menza

[@Konstantinoff74]

Nick is much better, sad but true

[@yisus7793]

***** cause lars is more succesfull

[@williamdawson4023]

Konstantinoff74 ha fun pun Lars would win when he was younger

[@alede]

if only that was even remotely close to being true

[@geraldorodriguew3605]

@@williamdawson4023 he can't even compete with the old nick

[@williamdawson4023]

@@geraldorodriguew3605 bro lars ulrich is literally The ehhhhhh.

[@norwaydude6]

Well you could have used a real drum track on Menza...

[@asms_music417]

or even a half decent MIDI programming job. ah well. it's a learning process for this YT channel

[@milessoundmusic]

Nick Menza by far! And I was lucky enough to be in a band with him back in the day before Megadeth called Emeralde.

[@naghen1]

We're serious. ... Lars is a likeable drummer but nothing more. Nick is a drummer with a much higher technical baggage. There is no comparison!!! Nick wins easy!!!.

[@gianluigidautilia6417]

"nick menza" sounds like my soundblaster from ´97

[@shyguy2075]

Lars in his prime couldn't hold nicks jock

[@stuartewoldt1513]

I think we all agree, this is a drum machine

[@armanpour335]

Nick is one of the best metal drummers I've ever seen. I love the way he uses his bass drums. outstanding.

[@andrewfultz7472]

They were both great drummers in their prime, amazing periods. But just look at both of them now, old dudes. Nick was the best choice for Megadeth, Lars is the best choice for Metallica.

[@morsteen]

Lombardo is a better choice for metallica. When he sat in on drums for them they sounded fucking fantastic.

[@MacintoshPlus1MB]

why are you comparing a MIDI version of take no prisoners to a low quality recording of lars on battery

[@franciscoborquezk.155]

To make it easier on Ulrich

[@agustinmancini7020]

Thats the studio version of lars’ recording

[@SnusKing]

@@agustinmancini7020 yes. But it's so compressed that is unlistenable

[@allenbass6169]

I think Lars sounds good. He was weak on kill em all by he improved fast for lightning. You have Lombardi and Benante talking of how great Lars is. Then you have the burger flipper at burger king that says he is lousy. It's wierd to see the majority of people value the burger flipper's opinion over the greatest drummers of all time.

[@crtdigitall]

Menza is more technical, Lars isn’t terrible, his particular style fits the band. Lars would be better if he took practicing more seriously. pretty sure he has a in ear metro for lives.

[@walshy0001]

and even scott ian said "Without Mustaine, there is no Metallica. Without Mustaine, there maybe is no Thrash Metal at all"

[@Skumbomb]

Everybody know that Nick is a real drummer. Lars is not a drummer, he just plays drums that's all

[@hybris159]

Skumbomb he is just a faker tool, no talent at all, my grandmother plays better

[@SeatLeonMK2]

no fuck of

[@apocalypse3485]

@@hybris159 No talent? Haha, You Must Be Kidding..

[@hybris159]

@Martel Herold you have no idea - do you even play drums??

[@yeetfeet1878]

I am a drummer and I have to say Lars is probably better. They are both extremely good drummers though. But you know what these drum comparisons shouldn’t happen drumming isn’t a competition, drumming just like any instrument is art. You play what fits the style of music lars does fast double bass sometimes because that is what fits the music he went for groove on the black album because that is what fit. No drummer truly sucks it is all about what you bring to the band and what you bring to the music.

[@bartsimpson9765]

Why compare the two? Everyone knows that Lars is good but seriously not as good as Nick.

[@Mitsurugi-Ryu]

hes really not even good

[@poison4822]

@Martel Herold no

[@yeetfeet1878]

Lars is good I honestly don’t see what the hate is for.

[@thereisnopandemic]

@Martel Herold no

[@theredneckchef5472]

Nick is a drumming God...RIP Nick

[@knightsonofjack]

It's actually amazing how good metallica was in the 80s despite Lars being so mediocre. His playing somehow does work great with the songs.

[@charlenepickett5706]

Absolutely! Metallica rules the midnight air!!!

[@zamn__]

​@@charlenepickett5706No

[@BruceCAuris]

Menza es mucho más técnico y mas creativo que ulrich, ambos son buenos pero menza en vivo es una leyenda..

[@11DNA11]

Funny how people defend Lars like mad... He's probably the only guy that needs videos to prove he actually does play double bass sometimes xD "Quality"

[@theextinctsurgeon310]

he used to ply double bass, then he got fat and slow

[@epnlvr9790]

The Extinct Surgeon lol

[@stevelangelierjr4100]

Lars was always a studio double bass generated hero. He was never a match for his peers like Lombardo or Benante who were legit.. look up the producer of the "and justice for all album". He admits how he had to doctor Lar's double kick work...

[@MadMaXCOD-pi4dy]

@@stevelangelierjr4100 go and listen Seattle 1989 Battery...Then you will know nobody played such fastest double bass in that Era

[@rafaellago172]

@@MadMaXCOD-pi4dy One word, it begins with "C" and ends with "oke". Lars wouldn't step on a stage back then without filling his nose up with the stuff. The extra energy didn't last long, 'cause after 1993 he was still young and probably still enjoyed the stuff, but his bass drum triplets became horribly sloppy nonetheless.

[@listillolordoc7604]

Nick is a real drummer. What I mean is, along with his chops he keeps time for the musicians he plays. Lars plays the drums. At one time in the late 80’s he was good, but the reason Metallica sounds sloppy live is because Lars fallows James, then the rest of the band fallows Lars. To many moving parts to the machine. James and Lars have both admitted that Lars more or less needs to fallow James, or someone. If you took Nick and put him in Metallica for an hour, they’d fire Lars once they heard those songs played tight with a real drummer.

[@orlandobolanos486]

Menza, the best metal drummer ever and also in my opinion in the conversation for top5 drummer of all time, I love percussion’s and truly appreciate technical sound. I don’t want to sound disrespectful but Menza for me is top 5 all time, Lars in my opinion is good, but far from great

[@BrutalSamba]

how did you get the drum only tracks i need a way to get them so i can learn songs better

[@lifesshorttt]

Both great drummers. RIP Nick Menza.

[@jacopopadoan7955]

In this battle, Nick is undoubtedly the best (even though Lars is my favourite drummer) but I feel like he was a bit wasted on the studio albums after Rust In Peace: he did excellent tracks, he served the song very well but I think he simplified too much his drumming (also like Lars) except for some standout tracks. I also think Lars could have replicated without too much struggles his work on Countdown or Youthanasia. However I hardly doubt he could replicate, even in his prime, what Nick did on Rust In Peace. Those drum tracks are a masterpiece.

[@lokomero]

Nick Menza(RIP) all the way!!

[@TheTuita]

Comparing the two is about as unfair as it gets. Menza was literally raised as a drummer by drummers (and incredible ones at that). Ulrich is a guy who decided to play drums. Their backgrounds show in their playing ability.

[@DarthMatt28]

how do you get these drum tracks?

[@Metalman9991000]

They're both awesome, nuff said.

[@davidcurtis4478]

Nick was was a beast on double bass and loved his power. Lars is a genius! Both guys are solid! Full on Metal 🤘🥁🤘

[@thebogeymaniscoming]

@blackvein511 What is Metallica famous for that was sketched by Mustaine?

[@tazzmachazz1355]

Nick Menza is BEAST on drums!!!

[@cynthiathomas404]

I don't think lars is as sophisticated as Nick on the drums i was never impressed with Lars drumming

[@nildo1319]

Nick Wins

[@vocksey2353]

@Martel Herold no

[@basty8258]

Lars is a good drummer but Nick has more technique

[@guitarplayer6565]

Megadeth wrote music for musicians, Metallica wrote music for my grandma to eventually like

[@MrCoww]

How come you used a drum machine track for Nick's part?

[@groovykid18]

Lars... Yeah I said Lars . Not because I think he's a better drummer but just because I find listening to Lars more interesting then Nick. Although Nick is a better drummer. But yeah I said Lars. So yeah.

[@adrianfong5783]

Angela Carreras i would say the same because Lars has a far more recognizable playing style but nick does too

[@mattelms3132]

If any of you actually played drums you'd know that lars' drumming in MOP and justice far surpasses nick menza in skill and difficulty, tho nowadays he's nowhere close

[@mattelms3132]

actually, battery and disposable heroes is as difficult as most of the songs on justice. but that being said, nick menza was much more controlled and well thought through tracks, so he is the better drummer.

[@rambobrown9661]

menza is more stable and be able to stay in rhytm while lars sometimes/always straight outta tempo

[@timjenkins502]

have you listened to rust in peace..

[@johnathanjackson4074]

Lars isn't terrible in general. He's just not the best.

[@ArtOnTheWall]

Roland 660?

[@rocafella142]

@DonLduk those aren't "random double pedal notes" they're called double bass triplets.

[@TaddSeiff]

It's clear that both of these men need to upgrade their drum samples. They are both pretty good at programming MIDI though, as your video points out...that's about it though.

[@tallica4alltime]

please brothers, Search dyers eve drum track, and open your eyes to the awesome Drum king OLD Lars ulrich

[@XiyuYang]

You used midi drums for Menza's part, why?

[@killface69]

Was this recreated on a drum machine?

[@greghufton6561]

Nick all the way.

[@vocksey2353]

Yes.

[@BoundInChains]

I enjoy Lar's druuming too

[@zemacabro]

first drum beat is from shawn droover , headcrusher :), not from menza i think

[@albertoglxz8874]

whats is the firts song of megadeath?

[@legodsplan3914]

Take no prisoners. It's in rust in peace

[@mike9090ish]

Menzas track sounds fake or something..

[@kylebatteson9572]

That's just how he plays.

[@xOWNAGEx1]

It is fake made by a backing track or a drum machine. It's not the real drumming in the song.

[@panzerken]

was thinking the same!

[@DethThrasher1]

Kyle Batteson lol

[@malagente6777]

but he plays exactly the same in concerts

[@bandanataicho]

Nick n Lars are both GREAT Drummers with different ways.If you think that Lars is SUCK,You never listen to ROCK.GO AWAY POP LISTENERS

[@GoJays09]

@6ftUnder92592 What about Chuck Behler?

[@ksysinf]

and again, one fun fact: more technical doesn't mean better. battery kick your ass harder than almost any megadeth song

[@IronCobra95]

1:52 megadeths best lineup ever

[@Bozzerhollow]

1:52

[@mariaferramirezc]

Menza

[@Budokid]

@ramirowii care to give any examples?

[@shyguy2075]

Menza could play any Metallica song easily, Lars couldn't play Megadeth's simplest song

[@guillermot6254]

Nick Menza descansa en paz ! Aguante Megadeth.!!! Saludos de Paraná entre Ríos Argentina Guillermo ⚡💪🇦🇷💪⚡

[@allenbass5131]

Ulrich isn't as bad as everyone says he is. Would like to see just one person post a video of their drumming prowess. Probably isn't going to happen to right. Same with everyone talking of how horrible Hammer or Hetfield is.

[@The123carrera]

There’s average joes on KZbin with Metallica drum covers that completely blow Lars’s take any day of the week. Lars is the founder of the band along with James and those 2 have written the majority of their songs which is where I will give Lars credit but when it comes to playing he LEAGUES behind James, Kirk, and Robert it’s actually very sad. I hope you don’t think I’m a hater, because Metallica has been a fundamental part of my life for since I was 8 (20 now) and yes he has decent performances on studio records ( key work studio where you can play till you get it right) as a pro drummer he’s severely under par but he’s the heart along with James of Metallica

[@MrOmaha-gy6py]

@Martel Herold Lars can play, but he can't compare to any drummer Megadeth has had, for that matter, no Metallica musician can compare to a Megadeth musician

[@outis439-A]

@@The123carrera I don't agree. They can't arrange like he can. If they could, why aren't they famous?

[@The123carrera]

@@outis439-A like I said, Lars and James have written pretty much all their songs, showing how bloody brilliant he is. His brain is infinitely times sharper than any drumming skills he has

[@The123carrera]

@@outis439-A he’s been around the world playing for decades and has rarely missed a show in all that time and I don’t think I’ve ever hear of him having any off stage issues or subtstance issues and what not so in that aspect I respect him for always being responsible, without Lars there’s no Metallica

[@rebeccacombs8781]

Imagine if Dave stayed in Metallica and Cliff never got killed, imagine what albums they would have put out...

[@ksysinf]

lol, thay said that Lars worst of all big 4. but hi is the only drummer from the whole big 4 and other classic thrash bands, that NEVER was kicked from a band

[@sevo4756]

lars = more aggresivity nick = more technical

[@johnathanjackson4074]

Lars can only arrange songs. Nick has better tempo and rythym. Lars plays in the confines of the song.

[@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051]

i couldnt agree more

[@dogukanark4434]

Nick's drum sound more trash but lars good too.However I choose Nick every time,Rest in Peace lord of drums...

[@troysmithfr]

Sound more TRASH?

[@dogukanark4434]

I mean more ritmic behind the trash sound.

[@dogukanark4434]

Not trash,sorry thrash yeahh

[@bartoszgamrat4848]

Rust in Peace

[@DevrimOdabas]

nick alır rahat

[@ngaihablack4376]

Every Metallica fans know that Megadeth has better musicians . But as an overall Metallica did it better . Love both

[@Samsgarden]

Oh come on, is there any comparison?

[@christophertok7688]

Nick is better sorry lars 😎

[@benwilson4620]

Menza whipes the floor with Ulrich

[@jaymann5180]

James did the same thing when they played together for the second time. James apparently split Lars' forehead open.

[@DietLemonT]

@liamgdoherty Have you not heard this song? I nearly break my neck head banging in the beginning, The drums are so adrenaline full and powerful, these drums sound nothing like the drums in the actual song, unless i'm missing something

[@drums333]

Hate to burst your bubble, but the first part of this audio/video is a drum machine.

[@sargente1572]

Justice Lars blows Nick.

[@GamerseHackers]

Justice For All é uma bosta aprende a tocar depois comenta!!!!!!

[@apocalypse3485]

Thats right in my opinion, AJFA have awesome drums tracks

[@apocalypse3485]

@@GamerseHackers What?

[@stefanos821]

easy win for menza

[@korstog]

@SitotiKurton some unknown guy???? flemming ramussen was the co-produser of ride the lightnig,master of puppets and ..and justic for all...

[@ghoste1008]

Megadeth is the most technical in Big 4 whereas Metallica is the PEOPLE amd audience Favo

[@IndyBobcat]

Lars isn't the most technically proficient drummer, but I'll take his 30+ year chemistry with James Hetfield over any other drummer. Plus, Lars' real strength is songwriting. He's an amazing arranger and hears things on demos that others don't, strings riffs together perfectly, and makes great songs with them.

[@marmalaterjones4526]

This. Technically proficient studio musicians are a dime a dozen. No Lars, no Metallica.

[@MetalLife]

@@marmalaterjones4526 yes!!

[@raoulorozco8949]

All these haters hating on Lars..GTFO he's a drummer of an Iconic Band still going and its 2019 already.

[@minedash4670]

Don't compare popularity with ability.

[@raoulorozco8949]

@@minedash4670 whos comparing what im saying is true arent they still kickin it and theyre like in their 50's..Lars may not be better than Nick but his style works.it worked for Metallica right?

[@marcosfernandezmartinez5284]

@@raoulorozco8949 Gar Samuelson is much better than Lars Ulrich.

[@thrashingjustin]

@martinkenadams what your hearing from this video are not performances. this guitar pro or something. it is all computerized from the original song.

[@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051]

nick menza is better techniquelly but i prefer lars style and i know if anyone else played drums for metallica it wouldnt be the same. lars is the heart and soul of metallica

[@noahstone264]

in their primes, Lars was better than nick. gar was better than both

[@GoodForNothingDrums]

Gar was innovative yet sloppy, menza>lars>gar

[@timjenkins502]

Bahahaha thank you for my laugh of the day

[@garbageday1964]

GloryDouble7198 you seriously need to calm the fuck down mug man

[@EatGameSleepRepeat]

Oh Hell yes Lars all the way dude!

[@dsc_dsc]

who is that guy lars?

[@Videomasterguy]

Isn't it playing Battery? ...

[@malocchio4264]

LARS ULRICH still. The BEST drummer out there !!!

[@dogukanark4434]

But Nick is more technical and he's making good bridge between the drums,listen him carefully again but yeahh lars cool but not the best ;)

[@malocchio4264]

Yes. Nick was an amazing drummer for Megadeth.

[@dogukanark4434]

Finally you said something that true,yeah nick was amazing so we will not forget him...

[@dogukanark4434]

It's your opinion kid 😉

[@dogukanark4434]

And Lars not the best may be for you but not on this world because there's always better drummer 😉And now go and listen Nick and learn something......

[@SDMFTommySick]

Lars Is A Joke

[@uome20bukz]

Why the hell did you use an artificial drum track for Take No Prisoners? It kind of defeats the purpose of doing a Vs. video with two drummers if one of them isn't the real drum track.

[@BegetterVIIEVEN]

I burst out laughing just looking at the title 😂

[@mikehockhertz5329]

Tell Lars to stop making dumb faces and practice a little more, aside from justice for all he stinks, when your learning to play drums you jam to Metallica when you get better years later you play along to megadeth

[@drummerfromhell1000]

Lars 100%

[@GamerseHackers]

Aprende a tocar depois comenta!!!

[@Justtoentertainyouguys]

seriously ? i think you are lady gaga fans ..

[@DonLduk]

@rocafella142 I meant: random triplets, here and there.

[@weirdalyankosin]

@ElvisBluntman777 not just a jazz player... he was Don Menza... the famous saxophonist

[@draugsvoll01]

@6ftUnder92592 That's funny, cause Motorbreath is the only Metallica song (ecxept for Cliff's solo) that Lars did not write the drum cover to.

[@arturomonter4095]

nunca escucharon Dyers Eve ¿Verdad?

[@apocalypse3485]

Parece Que No :/

[@HaxellMence]

And I advise you to go on a journey through the black album, where the same beat is used in every song. That's the funny thing, most of the beats are not only extremely simple, but really similar between all of them.

[@ozzymustaine]

Nick Menza could use Lars as a drumstick!

[@markjohn1298]

Menza's drums were remastered i think. Both great drummers though!

[@jl77diver]

Lars sounds like Nick falling down the stairs.

[@lasyanka7821]

Listening to drum tracks of thrash metal songs really makes me wanna to buy a percussion and learn that galloping way of playing

[@epicogrelord4417]

Neil Peart obviously