Forza Horizon 5 vs Forza Horizon 4 | Direct Comparison

[@Nick930]

Quick Correction: I mention that the Horizon 4 map is based in "England" but since it includes areas of Scotland, it's more a fictionalized interpretation of Great Britain. Good afternoon everyone! Got a LOT of backlog to get through after spending multiple months on that Battlefield video. If you haven't checked it out yet, you can watch the full documentary here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ2Tk5yNhtemnqs Coming up, I want to look at COD: Vanguard, Rider's Republic, some PS5/XboxSX headsets that I've yet to unpack, and lots of new games coming this month (Uncharted, GOW, and MonsterHunterRise on PC!) And if you didn't see my tease yet on twitter, the next documentary will be "History of Halo!" Happy 2022!

[@Nick930]

@@109destiny History of Halo will include a look at Halo infinite and how it stacks up to EVERY game in the series. If I have time I'll do a separate video of Halo Infinite vs Halo 5, but it's not a high priority

[@allergischaufdasrontgen7644]

Please consider GTA Trilogy AS well

[@glitchadapt8681]

@@allergischaufdasrontgen7644 yes

[@Nick930]

@@allergischaufdasrontgen7644 Ah yes that's another one that I want to cover. Like I said... BIG backlog. I still haven't covered Miles Morales and I've been wanting to play that too

[@MatthewK122]

@@Nick930 can you make guardians of galaxy

[@evogaming.12]

Am i the only one who didn't have both of the games and still watching it for satisfaction>?

[@elolistener]

Not you only

[@Marc28031984]

What most people tend to forget is, this is still the same engine as in Forza Horizon 2. It’s amazing what they made out of it. Horizon 3 is where they made the biggest graphical jump for me, cause 4K and HDR made the world unbelievably beautiful even at night.

[@lunchbox997]

Its really impressive, considering it runs really well on older console hardware and PC hardware.

[@beanmarine1173]

@@lunchbox997 my main reason why FH5 is my favorite game of 2021. They didn’t forget about people with older or less powerful hardware and they gave us a very solid and optimized game

[@htg97]

i hope FH2 PC version one day

[@rockymaniaster]

@@beanmarine1173 this is the fact that many doesn't understand. It's respecting the fan base and providing a game where a guy with low end specs can enjoy it just like the guy with high end specs 👍

[@uselesbian]

I think FH2 has the worst design, but if it was new for them, we can see they improved now

[@Just_Chilliing]

The sound, particularly engine sound, is a real step up in FH5. Also, I asked a dev once about damage models - its less to do with licensing etc and more to do with how many models of the car they have to make for each and every different vehicle, how its crashed, where, damaging what bits etc etc... question of memory rather than license!

[@ClayWheeler]

BeamNG Developer be like: Heh, pathetic. In BeamNG you can easily Import any random car model with the support of mod Community, and the damage will be automatically calculated.

[@siimu111]

@@ClayWheeler Because of their own unique game engine. BeamNG and Forza are not comparable.

[@lucid523]

@@ClayWheeler but for one they look trashy and crash horriblely snese they just steal a J-beam from a in-game car and don't bother fixing it and for two you can get alot of viruses from just trying to find such mods and also its just not right to have licensed cars in a game that doesn't like its weird.

[@ClayWheeler]

@@lucid523 take a look at the last December update. The visual Update is fantastic. Don't forget BeamNG is Programmed by One Dude

[@whothou9154]

@@ClayWheeler over the span of 7 years lol

[@yaosio]

You didn't mention the new tire smoke effect. You can get a good cloud going if you spin circles in 5.

[@keenanbru9041]

I agree, the new tire smoke is impressively good looking

[@xxnositxx]

Only thing it sucks when burning out in place

[@cohenwedgewood45]

@@xxnositxx just mess with the brake pressure and balance and you can do it in just about any car

[@shanebrown8726]

@@cohenwedgewood45 I think they meant when you do a burnout the smoke cloud looks pathetic which I agree with

[@cohenwedgewood45]

@@shanebrown8726 yeah I was half asleep when I post that, I have no clue how I mis read that

[@luiasori87]

The visuals of FH5 are amazing. But I consider the UK landscapes of FH4 provided more suitable environments for different sorts of racing. The new maps and environmental features such as the jungle and sands storms bring the series a little bit closer to the arcade spectrum. On a separate matter, the FH soundtracks were more impressive

[@richardverner7976]

It is an arcade The fh motorsport series is realistic

[@ok_genius]

I feel like horizon 5s map even though it's the biggest map, it feels super small? horizon 2 is definitely smaller but it feels big, same with horizon 4

[@DineshSingh-pr4ij]

I agree

[@rampage8617]

The UK was the most boring country landscape wise in any horizon.

[@mrcactuar8515]

@@rampage8617 Mexico is WAY, way more boring

[@rookie4582]

The car sounds are significant improved from FH4.

[@d0x360]

Yeah they are and they are dynamic based on parts and even temperature of the "air" of the game world.

[@Joemama_is_cool]

Yeah FH5 sounds really good

[@frankwren8215]

A lot of cars sound better but some, particularly with the aftermarket exhausts, sound way less realistic. It's a shame that many cars were neglected.

[@rookie4582]

@@frankwren8215 agreed, aftermarket exhausted felt underwhelming

[@Laptopsigmagamer]

You really didn't have to say this. We all know that duh

[@Lasagnaisprettycool]

As much as I loved the Australian settings with it's jungles and open dusty offroad sections, I invested about triple the play hours into FH4's world, the UK setting was very interesting because it looks a lot like the buildings roads and general environment where I live as a european. European open world games are kinda rare, and them featuring countryside area's even moreso.

[@Eduulopez]

Exacto... Todos los juegos son en estados unidos🤮🤮🤮🤮 like games europe bro👌

[@rahul-qm9fi]

I thought it was in mexico

[@chriswolf4435]

@@rahul-qm9fithat’s 5

[@FarmYardGaming]

FH2 was set in France and Italy and I prefer how that looks to desrts2 - be it FH3, NFS Payback, whatever. Not to say I don't enjoy them (I love FH3), but deserts feel bland and pale.

[@kiillabytez]

Being from Scotland and now residing in the States, FH4 was a welcome addition. FH5 has Mexico, but who really wants to go to Mexico, when even the natives can't wait to leave that country?

[@TattleDelta]

FH5 Has a ton of objective improvements. However as far as actually playing the game goes, one has horrible disconnection issues and the other does not.

[@RivaZA1]

Playing from South Africa I get a disconnect every now and then but for the most part it is pretty stable.

[@frazierl7898]

I don't remember with which update they were fixed for me, because I got tired of the issues and stopped playing often, but not for me at least I haven't experienced connection issues

[@lucid523]

Well they fixed that like a month ago?

[@casmithh]

check ur antivirus for the disconnection issues because if its on load times are rlly slow and i get those disconnections. if its not enabled everything works perfect

[@Werkvuur]

Do you still have disconnection issues in FH5? Pretty sure that's a problem on your end, lmao. It works perfectly fine for me and my friends now. And let's not pretend FH4 has none of these issues. Lobbies sometimes loaded for 5+ minutes and sometimes just broke completely.

[@wtDrake]

I played Horizon 4 for a year straight. Was excited when 5 came out. I stopped 5 after 2 months. World felt so much more engaging in 4, you would actually see more players around, and the highway was a great spot to meet others. 5 doesn't have any of that, too open, wide and soulless. Gameplay and effects on 5 was great at least.

[@lionking4442]

Same. I returned to FH4 after 70 hours in FH5. Absolutely dull free roam online experience and constant connection issues got me.

[@8000_k]

same here,fh 4 feels better

[@thexvidante]

@@8000_k is 4 more active than 5? Can’t seem to ever find people in 5

[@Skullgames98]

I feel the same

[@anonyw2993]

Same here. Somehow 4 is feel better.

[@Colfax98]

I really don't mind the damage models in fh4 and fh5, I leave them off just so my car looks really nice all the time

[@MBL666UK]

Also with the car damage…. How would it work with custom livery. As good as the Forza game engine is, I’m not sure how it could display crumpled bodywork if it’s been cover by a custom design or artwork

[@mr.2cents.846]

LOL

[@pancake5830]

@@MBL666UK it works pretty good! it shows the original paint underneath just like it would if you scratched a wrapped car irl.

[@BeardyGit89]

Yeah I always play Motorsport games with simulation damage but Horizon with damage completely off. It's a game for cruising and looking beautiful.

[@Henrystutzen1993]

If you leave them off, it shouldn't bother you anyway. But for those who 'd like to see an more realistic damage model, even fh2 was better (bodywork, not paint)

[@JonesBrothersProductionsiac]

For the damage effects, I watched Raycevick's video on Burnout and the first thing shown was a Ford exec talking about why their cars don't look damaged is because they don't want the cars to look dangerous and unsafe. Yeah, that's a ridiculous statement.

[@Nick930]

Yup. That's exactly what they do. It's been a problem with games for a LONG time now.

[@Fastwalker27]

Every car is dangerous and unsafe if the driver is crazy enough

[@ozar1472]

​@Nick930 And it's getting worse, Back then in 2008 Codemasters managed to make absolutely fantastic damage model in Race Driver: Grid, I think this game have the world's best damage model ever with licensed vehicles and it looks like it will never change. Today it's literally impossible to show that kind of damage model on countless brands, especially on exotic vehicles. Manufactures are ruining racing games in general with those restrictions and it pisses me off so freaking hard

[@LWM-Official-Music-Channel]

yet some manufactures do not want to see their cars to be destroyed/damaged in games. If you have noticed why we don't have Supra anymore in nfs games or toyota in general is that toyota don't want to see their cars in racing games where they get damaged or any other reason

[@danielgomez7236]

They just don't want to see their cars destroyed, that's it

[@fly2724]

I find mysel preferring FH4, now that I moved to a tropical area. I began to appreciate the temperate beauty I once knew. Both are beautiful!

[@moatezmoussi9751]

I would still go with FH4 because of the environment i prefer driving in beautiful nature than desert

[@rafaelconstanzovicens9094]

Forza Horizon 4 is just beautiful. My mom used to sit with me while I played FH4 on the big TV of the living room just to see the landscapes haha

[@meandthetheguineapigs.3062]

This is just my opinion. I prefer the roads in forza horizon 4 they were more like roads.

[@TOBY-jy7bz]

There is more than desert in FH5, have you by chance not actually played the game?

[@vasudevyadav6926]

The greenery and flowers make it wayyyy prettier, fh5 has some green areas but it's not as beautiful as in fh4

[@sandkkk7671]

@@TOBY-jy7bz the map is good but its easy to get tired of it. It doens't feel that chill to just drive around a desert or a jungle as it is on FH4 environment

[@parasolo89]

Forza Horizon 4 was my first Forza game and i loved it but 5 felt more of the same tbh so i wasnt blown away like when i played 4.

[@sreeragn2133]

It's a racing game tf u expect ☠️

[@parasolo89]

@@sreeragn2133 More variety but i still enjoyed it.

[@Keivz]

If you can grab FH 3, I highly encourage a play through

[@wadimek116]

@@sreeragn2133 I spended around 500h in fh4 but only 130 in fh5. Fh5 map is just boring

[@Luke-tl4vw]

Fh4 sucked fh5 is a great map

[@Phil-Philips_0505]

The geographical and cultural environment of FH 4 map which what I mean is that sort of depiction has been seldomly appeared in other open-world games, whereas the type of geographical environment of FH 5 map you can be frequently seen that around in many other open-world games such as GTA 5, Red Dead Redemption, Ghost Recon Wildlands, Just Cause 4 and so on. So I find the map of FH 4 is unique and hopefully the next game's map design will be literally based on Japan!

[@auedpo]

I was thinking the exact same thing! If I wanted to drive in the boring desert I would just play GTA V.

[@matimefju]

On point. I really like England and Scotland in FH4, plus seasons make it unique. Also radio tracks are better in FH4

[@paraskevaspapantonakis]

@@matimefju ikr so true

[@kuriankeralaIndia]

@@matimefju Timeless is my favorite .

[@shanhyat]

If it was japan, wouldn’t everything be only drifting?

[@michaelc3977]

Who tf wants to drive in Mexico though?

[@lxwvs]

Fr man we need a map in Japan where the car culture is massive

[@Antsfaner_]

​@@lxwvs FH6 is rumoured to be set in Japan

[@92juanreus]

Forza Horizon 5 sound quality is in a league of its own. It blows away every aspect of FH4 in engine sounds. Kudos to PG for their amazing work. Next Forza game will be on a new engine so I'm really excited for that, in the meantime, I'll go play some Forza Horizon 5 :D

[@fifteen8850]

I don’t think it’s that much better, mainly because the sound quality (for the good cars that sounds accurate) are actually really good in fh4. It’s just that more cars sound like their irl counterparts.

[@itsy3h]

@@fifteen8850 I disagree. I completely understand where you’re coming from, but after putting way too much time into FH4, FH5 just sounded so much better. Like you mentioned, most the cars now sound more like their real world counterpart, but the overall sound quality is so much better. Along with much more crisp and unique upshift and downshift noises, it is really fantastic. Granted, most of this is minor in the grand scheme of things and probably wouldn’t be noticed, but I still think FH5 deserves some appreciation for this leap.

[@santhoshsridhar5887]

@@fifteen8850 There are other improved aspects tho, like the ray traced audio(probably because of which the Doppler effect that occurs due to other cars speeding through or us speeding through anything and getting that woosh sound is a lot more convincing).

[@fifteen8850]

@@itsy3h I do recognize that most have better engine sounds and overall sound much. More natural, but I can’t help but feel that certain cars somehow sound worse in fh5 compared to fh4

[@itsy3h]

@@fifteen8850 and that may be so, certain cars may have ended up sounding worse. And I’m sure there’s a million possibilities as to why that could be, but I think on an overall level, most of the cars in FH5 sound more realistic, and just overall better. That’s not me trying to excuse the cars that may sound bad, but again, I just think FH5 deserves some praise for its new updated sounds

[@ivailoivanov01]

I like Forza Horizon 4's map and gameplay better, sorry but for me FH5 is a step down. Great video anyway!

[@fiammaorsmth9840]

🤨 uk?

[@friendlyatheist9589]

You k?

[@zerotofifty]

@@friendlyatheist9589 I prefer Horiwzon 4's graphics to 5's. Horizon 5 looks washed out at times and the graphics are inconsistent meaning one time it can look like the best game ever made and the other time like a game from 2016

[@ivailoivanov01]

@@fiammaorsmth9840 No, Bulgaria

[@thehomelessproject3784]

I completely agree fh4 I was playing daily I wanted to progress the map was big enough and just challenging enough.. fh5 is a massive let down

[@biollante879]

Another factor in the lackluster damage modeling is the licensing. Car manufacturers don't like it when their cars can get smashed to bits in game. This is especially true for Ferrari and Porsche. I'd love for a Burnout or Wreckfest level of deformation but I doubt it'd ever be allowed and many car makers might pull their vehicles if it is incorporated.

[@PureRacing04]

Thats not rly true, manufactures are fine with damage models, tuning and so on. Back in the days when I did 3d modeling I talked with alot guys from car manufactures, most of them where fine with visual changes. There are of course sometimes exclusive deals or exclusive cars with some restriction. But.. Most studios skipping things like damage models due the amount of extra work that needs to be done. And Trun10 has a hard time even fixing the old reused models.

[@Nick930]

Isnt that what I said? I know I wrote that in my script but did I forget to say that In this video?

[@pancake5830]

@@PureRacing04 not true, most manufactures dont want their cars having any sort of major damage, ferrari started the whole crappy damage model thing, look back at fm4 damage models that were made before they got all pissy about it.

[@PureRacing04]

@@pancake5830 Most are fine. Its mainly coz the amount of work thats needs to be done which is typical these days in AAA development to save time not to create a working damage modell.

[@joaovmlg]

Try destroying a Jesko, you can't

[@bloodwhale]

Forza 5 for the graphics but, Forza 4 for gameplay feels way more fun

[@Zorky92]

There is a very small detail difference between the two games, that I really can't understand. In FH 4 the pedal shifters move when you shift gears, in FH 5 they don't (you can observe it from 10:40). I know it's a small thing but it bothers me a lot.

[@abloodynova7625]

It's a sad, well known fact that Forza seems to have a lacklustre approach to interior animations. I don't get the sense that it's improved much on that aspect since Motorsport 3.

[@theGamerzx3]

and in cars that you can see the driver body you can see him using the clutch on gear changes, thats some things they left in fh4

[@Badasi12b]

Wait... they took that OUT!??!?! WTF WHY!?!? That's something I love about 4 that 3 neglected! It's a SEQUEL! You're supposed to BUILD upon!

[@Zorky92]

@@Badasi12b right???

[@wadimek116]

@@theGamerzx3 They didn't left it in fh4 it was still there

[@henrik9030]

I prefered the Britan map, but i enjoyed the 5 as well.

[@jamesgorman899]

I personally loved mexico like twice as much lol. idk 4 didn't have enough variety for me.

[@julus2722]

@@jamesgorman899 visually I agree, but as a driving experience, I found FH4 much more satisfying. I feel like FH5 is missing in variety of corners and the streets are too wide.

[@jamesgorman899]

@@julus2722 that's fair too. Britiains known for those roads so can't argue 4 does it better there

[@MudSluggerBP]

You can’t beat driving in the British countryside in the snow. 👍🏻

[@indiramallavarapu7162]

Forza needs a very large map to dominate

[@TheGamingNorwegian]

I honestly think this game is held back by the Xbox One and the game engine. I think when Forza Horizon 6 comes, last gen consoles are dropped and they move on to their new game engine that i dont remember the name of, it will be massive improvements.

[@wizzotizzo]

Unreal Engine 5?

[@cesmal105]

@@wizzotizzo no

[@HayaTheHater]

@@wizzotizzo Forza Motorsport 8 Game Engine

[@VerticalStrafes]

Forza’s Engine is called Forza Tech

[@beanmarine1173]

Assuming they take another 3 years to polish and optimize, I agree

[@ScreamAndFly]

Fantastic presentation, as always. Only one thing is I was surprised there was no mention of the smoke fidelity between the two. Horizon 5 vastly improved the tire smoke over Horizon 4.

[@Benifor]

I got bored of fh5 really quickly unfortunately, its beautiful and the sound is great and all that but it wasnt big enough of a jump from fh4 to make me want to play it for hundreds of hours, i think the biggest let down was it lack of character, its just boring old desert like you see in gta, ghost recon and whatnot, but fh4's map of england was absolutely stunning with its atmosphere and character, and the expansion of the lego dlc just added to that, all the missions were really fun with unique characters and i think thats where fh5 flopped

[@sean7332]

Felt the same

[@JustMyOpinion-]

Bro I downloaded FH5 on game pass because FH4 kept crashing played 3 hours and turned it off and figured out how to get FH4 working again haven’t looked back since my biggest issue was the map it just felt like far cry or something empty deserts im British too so I enjoy FH4 more because I’m familiar with the roads

[@bungwohlio]

It's the old Forza Motorsport 5 engine and it's hitting it's limit ad it can be seen which is very impressive for a track racing game engine. I'd like to see Gran Turismo do the same with theirs.

[@AnotherWatchChannel]

I never heard of Forza… but then 2 weeks ago I got FH5… 250 hours later… now I’m playing FH4. Both are just incredible games. Also, I play with a direct drive wheel… so the force feedback designed into both of these games is mind blowing,. I was expecting them to play so good.

[@nothinbutpeanut]

fbb mindblowing as in non existant , you never tried Asseto Corsa or R Factor 2

[@spandel100]

@@nothinbutpeanut Don't diss his enjoyment.

[@nothinbutpeanut]

@@spandel100 you're right shitty of me indeed

[@elvpse]

​@@nothinbutpeanut chad

[@henkstols9326]

​@@nothinbutpeanutthe thing is the graphics on the more serious racer sim type games seem to be way behind, Horizon 5 or 4 will blow your mind visually.

[@Arnell_Mediocrity_Long]

Both games are great at the end of the day. 👍🏾

[@CraigSteelyard]

I like FH5, I just got bored of it quicker compared to FH4. I think i'll wait until the DLCs are released, to give it another try. After getting all of the boards, houses and making it to the hall of fame. Then there's not really a lot you can do, other than replaying events and playing online.

[@optimusprime5166]

Don't forget making builds.

[@FarmYardGaming]

It's always taken me a while to move onto the next Horizon game, but in the end I always enjoy it

[@Qc_Explorer]

There's always the festival playlist that you could try

[@abloodynova7625]

Likewise, but I was tired before I even reached HoF. The new sounds and the fun, gorgeous map does make me want to play a bit, but I can only play in bursts of 1-2 hour a day while I could play FH4 for 8+ hours total a day. At its core, it still has every reasons that made me felt burnt out by FH4 because under the new, shinier coat of paint, it's exactly the same game. Also personally I lost all of my liveries because they were made in Microsoft Store version of FH4 and can't be transferred to my Steam FH5 which really kills my mood.

[@Mexecutioner82]

I'm the opposite. I have been hooked for weeks and can't stop playing. I'm currently level 150 and have 206 cars 😁😎

[@alondite215]

FH5 is definitely a step up visually, but the real difference lies in how they play; FH5's physics model is an absolutely massive improvement.

[@thatpersiandude7386]

FH5 Map is the worst of all

[@CertifiedWTRPerson]

​@@thatpersiandude7386why tho?

[@0-60reviews7]

Personally I like FH4 more because that environment was more realistic to the game. What i mean by this is in real life you aren't going to be seeing multi million dollar cars driving through a very poor Mexican village whereas you would in a place like Edinburgh, a quaint boutique town, or the english countryside. I think this really helped the game make you feel like you were really there because everything fit in realistically. I also think that if they added a Mexico city the game would've been more realistic to the type of cars in the game as Mexico city is very modern, and if you were inside you could imagine yourself being somewhere else like NYC for example.

[@digby_dooright]

Good point. I wish they had made a location in Japan or Germany or at least added that in an expansion pack.

[@Porschaboy]

Come on man, mexico is ugly

[@flaviobisenti7104]

Personal opinion, but the scenery and menu song are far, FAR superior in fh4. I love england and that masterpiece of a song is pure nostalgia fuel

[@wazda6488]

You want nostalgia? Play fh1 2 or 3

[@ReverseArtist]

unpopular opinion : lighting in FH4 looks better than FH5 (just my opinon)

[@hussainkhalid7024]

2:47 no, fh4 map design is more fun than fh5 the fact that it’s more sandy does not make it that interesting than fh4 and not to mention Edinburgh that has very huge castles and it was actually very interesting for me to go there than in gran hanato

[@thetrashbaby]

I have never played a Forza game before. My boyfriend downloaded it since it was available since day 1 on PC Game Pass and I also decided to give it a try. I don't usually play triple A games since most of them are just a generic story and generic mechanics but this one ended up being one of my 5 favourite games from last year. It is just SO good. It's a simple car game but it's really fun to play. You can do whatever you want, play solo or online with other people. I also love how they keep up with the community putting out challanges to get new cars like the Peel these past weeks.

[@Austinj72builder]

this game is actually a first party exclusive

[@CIARUNSITE]

This might be one of the most awful generic AAA stories ever conceived. The characters could not be more contrived.

[@MrWackywilson]

Which one did you get ? 4 or 5 ?

[@billinatorbw2527]

yo Nick you forgot to talk about tire smoke improvement..i think they nailed and its more fun when drifting

[@Henrystutzen1993]

Thought about this too. However it should still be improved as often there is too much smoke while not drifting

[@paraskevaspapantonakis]

@Henrystutzen1993 (Domi) Ikr it's Iike someone inside the car is taking cocaine or something like that ngl

[@AnotherWatchChannel]

I didn’t know Forza Horizon existed until a few days ago. I got FH5 with a Fanatec DD1 setup and its blowing my mind. So much, that now I’m also going back to check out FH4. Both are amazing, but FH5 has an edge on graphics for sure, ever so slightly.

[@dyslectische]

Than you mis a lot. The Forza horizon serie is a real Nice serie to have . A lot of country what is use. If you look for IT you can fine a key for the Forza horizon 3 that is in Australië .

[@ldesconocido9341]

I don't play with a wheel, but you should be aware that wheel users universally say FH4 does not feel good. Apparently this is the first Forza Horizon game that got it right. Just a heads up.

[@JackMaslovLive]

@@ldesconocido9341 I have used a Logitech g920 (with force feedback for that saying) on all FH3, FH4 and FH5 and there was a significant improvement in brake and steering behaviour from 3 to 4. Horizon 5 seems rather good but I wouldn't say it is largely different from FH4 other than some steering response differences.

[@spandel100]

Also jumped back to 4 to try it and discovered Lancia.

[@canadiangoose4078]

idk the lighting in fh5 is awful in dark situations

[@markhd3059]

I feel like the next Forza Horizon will be a pretty big improvement mainly in the physics and maybe the graphics department due to the fact it being next-gen only and with the upgrades to the ForzaTech engine Turn10 are planning todo

[@gridhellsing]

The biggest difference is the dynamic range of colors. In FH5 you get a much greater dynamic range of colors as compared to FH4. That is why FH5 looks more true to life with better contrasty colors and shadows. The skybox is also much better with an enhanced global Illumination model.

[@wojtekpolska1013]

so basically the biggest difference is if you prefer to race in nothern UK, or Mexico

[@taylors2106]

People say the UK setting lacked variety, but a game based in the UK was wanted for many years, and we got it. It definitely holds up.

[@LennarthAnaya]

me too, when I go back to FH4 I still love how it looks

[@reezwave]

Been waiting for this, thank you 🙏🏻

[@mr_danquer]

I actually prefer FH4 sounds and environment. Edit: After a lot a time I can see how the fh5 sounds have a better tone but it sounds like the cars exhaust are just a bunch of mufflers, even with the race exhaust

[@kiillabytez]

FH5's environments aren't that impressive when almost everything is copy/pasted. Not really that big of a jump from FH4, almost like FH5 is just an expansion pack for FH4, and maybe it should have been one instead of a full $75 game.

[@benchmarkslab2005]

The graphics is gud improvement. But i kinda liked fh4 map than fh5

[@mundoeze]

Thanks for the comparison, although I didnt bother to buy FH5 cause its feel like 4 with some improvements. Hope we see bolder things in the future and not a Fifa 2020, 21, 22 situation.

[@bobbynientendo4621]

Horizon 4 has a better map and seasons, but Horizon 5 wins literally everywhere else. Fingers crossed Horizon 6's map isnt boring

[@tacticalmattress]

FH5 feels very similar to FH3 in terms of it's map layout. The jungles feel similar to a degree. The desert area is a lot different though. FH3 had more red tones as it is in Australia. Creates more contrast, that was one of my favorite areas to come flying through at 200+mph. On the Goliath. That was the best Goliath race to date IMO. The lighting, textures and reflections are much better in FH5 though. I really didn't like FH4 even though I was pretty much forced to play it.

[@Playos-ok1dc]

If you ask me i would say that FH4 is 200 times better than horizon 5 because of the difference of Seasons and Forzathon on both games. Horizon 4 had better weather and seasons for me to reconise for my blueprint events, however i can't edit blue prints in FH4 but thats ok. Horizon 4 also has better forzathon because of the seasonal pr stunts. You can complete the seasonal pr stunt in any car, in horizon 5's seasonal pr stunt, you'll need a required car and a required class upgrade for the car like really bru! C'mon! Horizon 4 also has the driver full frame animation in the chase cam, well horizon 5's driver fps in the chase cam is weak and less fps. Horizon 4 also has showcase remixes which is absolutely incredible! this is why horizon 4 had a lot better performance than horizon 5's performance!

[@coolcat-nq4mj]

8:39 did a road barrier designed to deflect cars really break from 30 mph speeds

[@sSteppingStones]

I preferred the FH4 map to be honest. And the draw distance I found to be way better on FH4 because they stills have not patched the FH5 draw distance bug on PC over a year after launch. I own both games but I still play FH4 more than FH5

[@_thevuefinder]

My most anticipated video! Thank you.

[@AFT_05G]

FH4 is such an underappreciated game.

[@Whales_]

It was listed as the best racing game ever in almost any list I could find, before eventually buying the game (love it). Can we stop using the word "underappreciated" as a positive adjective, and use it for stuff which wasn't recognized, while being great? Or is this going to be the same as "literally", just completely losing it's actual meaning?

[@fifteen8850]

@@Whales_ it’s probably because people got burnt out after playing it for 3 years straight. So far it’s the longest supported Forza game in existence so naturally, especially these days, gamers will get tired of doing the same thing over and over again

[@Whales_]

@@fifteen8850 I didn't really see it as people got burnt out, rather them (me as well) getting hyped for the 5th iteration of the Horizon games. My KZbin feed also made it seem like it very much wasn't declining as in players were getting burnt out. The game hasn't become "underappreciated". The appreciation has just naturally moved to Horizon 5. There is logic in what you stated, there is. I just don't see it that way myself.

[@UniversoXbox1]

Lol no, it was the best racing game

[@milanmaraczi8388]

I hate this amount of hate of my fav game : forza horizon 4

[@superduperperfectcell]

Me: *watching on a 720p 50hz screen* hmm yes you can really see much more detail

[@KenWiggerAnotherAncientGamer]

I really enjoy Forza Horizon 4 on my new 5900x & 3080. Now I am tempted for 5! Great video well done!

[@MrWaffles_YT]

We don't care about ur PC specs none of us can get those specs

[@gzerodois]

@@MrWaffles_YT Bro had to flex somehow lol

[@Constantin_91]

1:55 Scotland, not Northern England. Norther UK would be a better answer.

[@SJC9726]

Honestly preferred fh4s map over Mexico. Feel like with Mexico there's desert, beach and the big mountain in the middle. Also feel like the city roads are more awkward than interesting to drive on

[@whitey3017]

I'm glad I bought Horizon 4 yesterday instead of Horizon 5. I can bake an egg on my laptop already, I don't need to know what else might be cooking when playing Horizon 5

[@djentrification1631]

Yet another awesome breakdown of both games! Thanks Nick!

[@tc4istalke575]

8:35 in horizon 1 they had a better damage system then they do now, I wish they would bring back more soft body physics to cars

[@rjoe03]

Would Love to see a Halo Infinite vs Halo 5 comparisn!

[@coolcat-nq4mj]

7:18 Dynamic destruction? No this is unrealistic how does ur car not come to a stop when u crash heavy objects, dynamic destrucition is beamng level and forza can't reach it since it's a kids game designed for 5 year olds

[@Nick930]

That is dynamic destruction, yes. This game isnt meant to be realistic. And you dont have to be "5 years old" to play a video game for fun. I like realistic sims on occasion, but this series has never taken itself seriously

[@coolcat-nq4mj]

@@Nick930 8:39 did a road barrier designed to deflect cars really break from 30 mph speeds

[@Canadian_Gamer]

I would personally like to see Turn 10 create a game with exotic tracks but maintain the realism of the motorsport series. The thing that kills Horizon for me is the hipster festival vibe, cannot stand that crap!

[@alphahari7210]

For a person who played FH4 for +300 hours I could easily say that FH5 is just a refreshed version. No real change in gameplay and Racing experience. That doesn't make FH5 bad, just an expansion of a really awesome game.

[@joshvanmoorsel7460]

Is no one going to talk about how the literally just made the exact same game, same engine, same events, same issues, same everything in Horizon 5?

[@madcapper6]

4:17 are those balloons in the sky? I honestly thought they were splotches of dirt on my display screen so I took a rag and tried to clean them off.

[@d0x360]

Cars have a complete change in materials, that plus the new lighting engine make them look more realistic in the world.

[@triadityahpermana783]

I waited this video for so long omg great work man!

[@nouseforthis]

I wanted to see this video! I prefer the seasons in 4... but you can't randomly make it snow everywhere and claim it's Mexico 🙃 but for every other aspect of the game I think it's a great improvement, over a really great game may I add.

[@SleepBeforeYouThink]

…it doesn’t “randomly snow everywhere”. It only snows in predetermined spots on the map during the dry season and only on mountain tops. Have you not actually played the game?

[@nouseforthis]

@@SleepBeforeYouThink I have played it, what I meant is that I liked winter making it snow on all the map on fh4, but fh5 being in Mexico would make no sense if it happened, so while I preferred it that way on 4, the way 5 handles it is what makes sense. Just a comment on a personal preference

[@CraigSteelyard]

@@nouseforthis Winter was probably my fave season in FH4.

[@rayray9865]

@@nouseforthis you do realize that it does snow in Mexico but in the northern part

[@criert135]

@@SleepBeforeYouThink You completely missed his point

[@thatguy6557]

I've been waiting for this, great comparison as usual

[@Jason_Bover9000]

I love the way forza horizon 5 looks beautiful on series x and horizon 4 is beautiful also these games helps more on xbox consoles then pc upgrades

[@vihangasathsara5830]

Thnx waiting for ur comparison videos❤

[@dashwilson7314]

I think Horizon 5 is a better looking/sounding game overall, but I feel like lighting could certainly be improved. I feel like Horizon five has the "GTA V" effect, where white cars look like they're glowing in direct sunlight.

[@allahnkulu2236]

Aynen öyle

[@ManiMozhiaanA]

Are u gonna do a comparison between retail back 4 blood and left 4 dead 2??

[@Nick930]

I'm actually considering doing both Back4Blood & World War Z instead since there's that new FPS option in WWZ. I did a Back4Blood vs L4D comparison before that I feel was pretty all encompassing - even if it was just the beta for B4B.

[@H2O-ali]

idk why FH4 feels more fun to play then FH5

[@iamacat3517]

Man your content is always top notch. Really appreciate it 👍🏼

[@kjererrt7804]

the very idea of racing in mexico is hilarious.

[@jamesfoo8999]

Great review thanks! Also, kudos for not talking in the sound test section :)

[@86RSJag]

Forza horizon 4 looks better. Sharper. Cleaner. 5 looks blurry on series X.

[@VinnieP.B.]

I don't see these basic/advance video option in the menu 0:21, I play FH4 on series S... Is it possible beside this, because my TV not support HDR (I think) also to be this reason too... ?

[@RomsurPlaysGames1]

Only on PC. Sorry for early response

[@f1jones544]

I was ready to buy one of these last week during the sale and I tried both back to back on Xbox Live. 5 had so much pop in that it was academic, I had no choice but to go with 4, which was fine since I like the snow and it was cheaper. I hope they're able to optimize 5 more because the environments do seem more fun and varied. Also pro tip: if you've played on Xbox Live, buy your game there instead of Steam, as you will not be able to import your progress, at least with FH4. I returned and bought through Xbox instead since I had over 100 cars in a pretty short amount of time.

[@zalankhan5743]

Yeah reviewers dont think that there is too much pop-in in Fh5. There is alot of pop in

[@c4rnage971]

Hey dude talking about transfer from xbox to steam , i did that and i got every previous car that i had in my garage in the form of gift from the horizon team so inshort there is a way to transfer you cars, you just have to check the inbox for that

[@drkreuzer670]

@@c4rnage971 i would love to jave my fh4 be available in fh5 too, but i like fh4 cause of the amazing uk landscapes(cause i wanna go to the uk) and from what i heard so far, fh5 is good but i wanna have two games with one account, is that even possible on steam

[@f1jones544]

@@c4rnage971 that's good to know. I think you still lose the event career progress through too, right? I was being forced to start over and every sticker I found said it wasn't transferable. Oh well, my account's at the Xbox Live store now regardless.

[@spandel100]

@Lil Yeet Best deal ever...

[@lavarshennaidoo3090]

Finally, I was waiting so long for this video, love this dude

[@stormweaverr]

Idgaf if fh5 is generally better, 4 will be my favourite. RIP fh4

[@Abc50849]

been waiting for a long time for this comparison

[@BeerBourbonandGames]

The series has always been impressive, but my goodness 5 is work of art. Love the setting, sound design and gameplay so much. Can't wait to see where they go for 6.

[@spandel100]

Hopefully South Africa...you can get rewards for avoiding potholes.

[@BeerBourbonandGames]

@@spandel100 is it that bad down there?

[@spandel100]

@@BeerBourbonandGames Worse my friend...much worse.

[@no-du1qn]

@@BeerBourbonandGames yeah, but it is really pretty here, u just have to ignore the cities. And we do have an intresting car culture here.

[@danielgb154]

have been waiting for this review for a long time, thanks a lot Nick.

[@e46m54nissansr20937]

Loved Horizon 3 in certain ways it looks better than even 5 when it comes to the environment but it could be the lighting. FH3 also imo looks great at night. FH4 looks good but was meh. FH5 is the best all around though I absolutely love it

[@fifteen8850]

Nah fh4 was absolutely fantastic imo. “Meh” is an absolute disservice to the kind of gratification it gave me and countless others

[@sleeping402]

@@fifteen8850 an opinion exists, chill out bro.

[@fifteen8850]

@@sleeping402 this comment section also exists, deal with it lol

[@sleeping402]

@@fifteen8850 your making it sound like he is disrespecting a military veteran, everyone has a taste in Video Games and opinions, telling someone that their opinion is a disservice then that is taking it a bit too far.

[@foxthooot5090]

@@fifteen8850 FH4 was meh lmao

[@soliform3485]

3:50 Is not tessellation.. tesselation has been in every 3d game with textures for decades. It's using a more high res normal map on the rock textures so they appear to pop out in good lightning. Im sure forza 4 had them too, as games have for the past several years.

[@diogopereira4639]

How is it Mexico if it isn't yellow?

[@jackm1093]

Great vid again nick. Just wondering how long do these videos roughly take you to make?

[@Nick930]

Generally 3-4 days of work. 1 day to record, 1 day to write, 2 days to edit.

[@jackm1093]

@@Nick930 good stuff thanks for the reply 😁

[@JustMyOpinion-]

So I have both games, but admittedly I’m British, I don’t know why but I prefer forza 4 although I haven’t played much of forza 5 as I didn’t like the map that much just feels like I’m playing far cry

[@MrBurns0618]

I noticed in forza horizon 4 the paddle shifters actually move and click in the game, but not in horizon 5 for some reason

[@RicochetForce]

Damn, this was a fantastic effort. Keep up the good work, Nick930! FH5 stuns me at how good it looks, how well it runs, all while doing all this wild shit.

[@RicochetForce]

@Alejandro Marin Monterrubio Es posible que tu me viste dejando un mensaje en otro video de Nick930.

[@Pelliq_E]

you finally did what i requested months ago thankyou bro!

[@zybch]

Damage modeling is indeed likely constrained by the car makers who would rather not see their products depicted in more drastic levels of destruction. Theres a reason we don't have branded cars in most games where destruction is present. Seeing as the car audio was re-recorded for 5 (playground released a mini-featurette about this) what we get in 5 may or may not sound 'better', but it is more accurate. Music in FH5 absolutely sucks compared to FH4, and 3 and 2 and 1. So much garbage hip-hop trash, and whats left barely has a dozen tracks you'd want to listen to daily.

[@fyre2377]

The music wasn't selected for you

[@milanmaraczi8388]

Literally there is one thing everyone hates about fh4, its the car sounds. And why still hating fh4 if thats the only problem

[@paulthurston2883]

I'm a Brit so I'll take FH4 any day. I've no interest in Australia, Mexico, wherever.

[@xman777b]

as an American, I agree.

[@elolistener]

As Russian I want fh6 in my country)

[@pravnav]

I live in nz and I agree 4 is best, then 3 then 5. Fh5’s map feels so old, like you are driving in these multi million dollar hyper cars and you are in a city that’s straight out of 1920. Doesn’t feel right at all, hopefully fh6 will have a good modern city

[@yashirobe918]

I was not a fan of Mexico setting at first but I am blown by how beautiful it looks. I used to like the UK setting mainly because of the European roads but Mexico in terms of how beautiful the environment is, is a big leap from FH4. Now FH4 map looks kind of dull to me.