"I am the son, and the heir, of a shyness that is criminally vulgar". What a fantastic opening line.
@AdamHodges-o6x2 ай бұрын
Just like the sun and the air.
@garylewis91133 ай бұрын
This breaks every compositional convention of harmonic rhythm and lyrical continuity, and it's MARVELOUS!
@OHJAJOH2 ай бұрын
Settle down buddy 🤨
@22Phantasm3 ай бұрын
The esteemed bassist, Mr Andy Rourke, passed away in May last year. His style of play helps this song (and others) in so many ways. Legend.
@kratino3 ай бұрын
I can't even explain what this song does to me. It's sorcery.
@edjtmonte3 ай бұрын
I remember well being in Lagos in the south of Portugal, in a bar and hearing this song for the first time, it immediately hit me, I became a fan. This happened in 84 and I was a young 21 year old!
@johnramsell85183 ай бұрын
I was 15 years old when I saw the grainy, almost homemade video for “How Soon is Now” on MTV, probably late at night. I had just discovered U2 and REM and was astonished that this type of wondrous art existed. I had no idea that there was other music out there…..stuff not like Bon Jovi, Van Halen, or even Iron Maiden. And the lyrics are so vulnerable. For an awkward teenager, this was like the world opened up. Oh and Johnny’s guitar was like nothing I’d ever heard
@PJprog3 ай бұрын
I'd go as far to say The Smiths were the most important band of the '80s , and are equally valid for todays ears. Awesome !!! 😍🎵🎵🤘
@s.scottsdale18393 ай бұрын
'Important'? It's pop music. It's not foreign relations or ending poverty. I'd still put Talking Heads, R.E.M. as more significant, and New Order at least even with The Smiths. And probably U2 as well.
@StMichael72 ай бұрын
@@s.scottsdale1839First of all pop is just short for popular music. Second of all there’s no evidence that music has stopped poverty anywhere.
@OHJAJOH2 ай бұрын
The cure.
@golfer563613 күн бұрын
The Clash are at the front door
@cryptoidmonkey39853 ай бұрын
Top Alternative 80's dance tune, and best Smiths' tune Evah.
@melvin70943 ай бұрын
Τhe long version is by far the best version. That little break towards the end is my favorite moment for some reason. Their sound is unique. They are their own genre.
@bikerkermitАй бұрын
The Smiths, The Cure and Depeche Mode: the Holy Trinity
@xs10tl603 ай бұрын
Every time I hear this song I immediately re-experience the first time I heard it in my head, at a certain club in South Florida; the second it came on, all conversations ceased and every goth/punk/new wave/whatever chick was on the dance floor. Lights flashing, smoke/steam floating around, it was a penultimate 80's experience I'll never forget!
@Bobby-LeeChanning2 ай бұрын
bit different for skinny white 13 year old in south london alienated by neon happy clappy 80s then came the smiths ...
@ronaldmilner89323 ай бұрын
I have been a Smiths fan since the mid-eighties! They are a PHENOMENAL BAND! Morrissey is a poet, and Marr is an ICON!
@johntrickey71822 ай бұрын
Hatful of hollow was the first album I bought by The Smiths because of this tune, amazing band since they were only together from 1982-1987.
@mynameispaul05303 ай бұрын
The Smiths came along in a really interesting time in history.
@Alternative1122 ай бұрын
👌
@cyclops603 ай бұрын
Great to see you guys reacting to one of my favourite bands. This was one of the first Smiths songs I heard, really different to anything at the time. A melancholy masterpiece with a unique 'wall of sound' that I don't think they used a lot. Morrisey and Marr were a great team. I hope you enjoy the album, whichever one it is! Cheers.
@michelle22023 ай бұрын
Have loved this song for 40 years, I remember being transfixed hearing it and watching the video for the first time. I like some other Smiths songs but am not a huge fan, but this song is unique in my view, with the guitar sounds like no other I can think of. The lyrics are incredibly sad too. The early 80s (my youth) was a wonderful music era for British bands: The Cure, U2, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Echo and the Bunnymen, Psychedelic Furs, Simple Minds, The Clash, The Police, Joy Division, New Order - all these bands are well worth a deep dive into.
@EchoesDaBear3 ай бұрын
GREAT reaction you Nick & Lex!! This is THE sound of the 80's. I can't enough of that tremolo effect/flanging guitar sound (and left/right panning). Johnny Marr is such an incredible guitarist. I was 7 when first introduced to this song, my sister (13 years older) waitressed at a bar, and she provided the soundtrack to my youth! This song was a standout. I think I wore out her cassette. This is the official song length...anything else is an edit - and is incomplete! Cheers!!
@VivezMarcos3 ай бұрын
remembering 84, listening on the beaches of Brazil..."Saquarema, Arpoador, Ipanema, Copacabana, surfing championships. Here we heard a lot of things from England and Australia.
@FABIOFANACCOUNT3 ай бұрын
this is awesome my gf showed me the smiths and this was the first song she showed me. its so special to me always gets me thinking of her
@falcongal633 ай бұрын
Every time I hear this I relive the feeling of almost being mesmerized as I spun around to this at the Peppermint Lounge in NYC. Such wonderful memories of my younger days.
@benjamintinker80282 ай бұрын
I love how Johnny Marr the guitarist says he’s never really been able to recreate this sound to his satisfaction and really couldn’t recall the set up he had for this recording.
@MaxArch3 ай бұрын
the smith & the cure really define that deep bold bass sound & ambient psychedelic sound back than in UK
@s.scottsdale18393 ай бұрын
Wow, brand new Nick n' Lex. Very cool.
@2ramona9593 ай бұрын
I really think the lyric should be, "I am the sun… and the air… … … of a shyness that is criminally vulgar." Because that bait and switch of an exuberant opening, to be followed up by Morrissey's maudlin self-loathing is clearly intentional and is what makes this so brilliant. He does it in other songs, e.g., "There are brighter sides to life, and I should know, because I've seen them… … … but not often." Morrissey's melodramatic self-loathing is like a signature that's both pitiful and comedic at the same time. Remember also that his struggle with being a gay youth in the 70's and 80's is a huge underlying theme in almost all his lyrics. You really can't understand or appreciate them without knowing this one salient fact.
@richarddobson8153 ай бұрын
Alternative, Indie, what the heck, these guys were the best UK band of that genre ever! Still to this day, The Smiths are revered in the UK, and this track is probably their greatest. Morrissey's lyrics and vocals are unique, Johnny Marr's guitar arrangements and playing are peerless and they had the most underrated rhythm section in Andy Rourke on bass and Mike Joyce on drums. I'm intrigued as to which album you will choose to react to guys. Be aware, they only made four studio albums : The Smiths (1984), Meat Is Murder (1985), The Queen Is Dead (1986) and Strangeways, Here We Come (1987) but also released two compilation albums of singles, B-sides, and radio broadcast recordings entitled Hatful Of Hollow and The World Won't Listen. If anything, the two compilations are the best introduction to their catalogue and provide the full scope of their talents. The Queen Is Dead is considered by many to be their greatest studio album and always rates highly in polls of greatest rock albums ever, but I prefer the compilations. I was living in Johannesburg when The Smiths were big in the UK, but I knew all about them as I subscribed to the New Musical Express (NME) which was the pre-eminent UK music paper of the day, and The Smiths were headline material for all of the mid 80's. I managed to find a vinyl copy of the compilation The World Won't Listen and it blew me away, confirming everything I had read about the band. Can't wait for the full album reaction guys!
@RGRG32323 ай бұрын
More of The Smiths, please. So many great songs to pick from. Hopefully, someone gets a marathon through (I say hopefully because I know of your situation with them being scrutinized).
@derekglover7563 ай бұрын
Saw the Smiths in Leicester UK IN 83. FANTASTIC.
@stephencaruso7603 ай бұрын
my son is a big Morrissey and Smiths fan since his teen days in the 80s
@sengler673 ай бұрын
This type of music from the late 70's and early eighties has a lot of sub-genres, but all was referred to as college rock. Because it was college radio stations that were the only ones playing it. As the genre grew more popular, it started to get mainstream airplay, and known as alternative rock.
@Kevvinm3 ай бұрын
I was a college dj from 79-83 and music director for my station in 82-83. It was an exciting time to discover and expose other people to this music . As you say by the mid 80’d a lot of these bands were getting into the mainstream.
@markjones1273 ай бұрын
[chokes] Never knew that, we simply called it Indie in the UK and the 80's was known for it's Indie scene, loved by all us Indie-kids, then Acid House came along and Madchester appeared which was just another variant on the whole Indie scene and then that eventually morphed into Britpop which was a far more poppy chart friendly variant of the Indie scene, Britpop being the weakest of the 3 variants, but still enjoyable.
@sylvestersnet3 ай бұрын
This is the manchester sound of the 80s. joy division new order stone roses smiths
@sheacolandri79962 ай бұрын
Got a fun one that I can't find anywhere on your site. TNT's "Forever Shine On," a high energy melodic metal masterpiece with excellent musicianship. Nick, you'll love the guitar solo, Lex will dig the overall feel and hook. Highly recommended!
@RetroMax853 ай бұрын
Featured in the 1985 made-for-TV Halloween movie “The Midnight Hour” …great song! I just found your channel this week and you’re my favorite reaction video channel! Love watching beautiful Lex and love your accent Nick! I’ll be watching more!
@agegroot56662 ай бұрын
First time i heard the song was in 1984 during a Dutch radiobroadcast Europarade i think it was called,a combined list of hits from European countries. At that moment it scored in Ireland. I was overwhelmed by the music and the singers voice. I didn't know them which was strange while i was and am a new wave fan. Missed their debut-album 1983 completely. Bought the hatful of hollow album and the others followed while their new songs i heard didn't disappoint. Sadly it all ended in 1987...will there be a reunion? I don't think it will happen,so be it. Despite their short existance their legacy is excellent.
@lizmarch40003 ай бұрын
I remember first hearing it. I thought, like you did, it was I am the sun and air? then realized NO -I am the son and heir. Of a shyness that is criminally vulgar. Amazing word choice. because that mistake makes it even more important and devastating.
@stinkhornadrian2 ай бұрын
This extended version has the crucial "When you say it's gonna happen now..." verse.
@jimled50jl493 ай бұрын
Hi Guys, I first heard this song as a cover version by a Russian female duo called "Tatu" and never knew it was by The Smiths till a long time later. Like you I have only heard the single version. I didn't know there was a longer version and I love it. Looks like I may need to get the album this is from to get this version. I have a feeling the album will be well worth getting. I don't have anything by The Smiths but I do know them well from tv appearances and radio play. This was brilliant hearing this longer version, thankyou ! Byee Jim X
@mynameispaul05303 ай бұрын
Alternative probably started in the late 70's with then unknowns like B52's. By 1982 there was a lot of very good alternative/underground music being produced. The Smiths came onto the scene and produced some very good music that still holds up today.
@ericsierra-franco78023 ай бұрын
This wasn't called "Alternative" back when it came out. It would have been called New Wave or Post-Punk.
@joeldf6859Ай бұрын
@@ericsierra-franco7802 Maybe not in the late 70s, but record stores in my town did have a section specifically called "Alternative" starting around '82-'83. It was for anything that wasn't on commercial pop radio at the time, but was usually heard on our college radio station. Bands like The Smiths, Violent Femmes, Cocteau Twins, and even Depeche Mode ended up in that section. By '84, even The Bangles first album was put in that section. Of course, they were moved to the pop section by '86.
@SMccrate013 ай бұрын
Johnny Marr is brilliant! He wrote both the guitar and bass lines. And the sonic space! I love the space in this song. The Smiths live album Rank is fantastic--Johnny Marr instrumental The Draize Train is phenomenal and Bigmouth Strikes Again at ear-bleeding volume is FANTASTIC!
@Alternative1122 ай бұрын
It is Alternative Jangly Guitar with Sarcasm wit
@garyrobets61473 ай бұрын
So many great songs back in the 80s 🎉
@theplanetruth3 ай бұрын
dangit!!! 18th!!! (And, btw, I stopped subbing to the RED YT version so my at-the-ready speed is severely curtailed anymore) AND IT WAS MY PLEASURE to meet the two of you beautiful people!!! This song is absolutely sublime on all counts. One of my faves as a yout'. That opening riff is goosebump central; and those lyrics are so crushingly raw... "I am human and I need to be loved...just like everybody else does..." I always think of more songs for my next marathons. I have a playlist on my channel- Songs with Nick if anyone wants to see what I'm planning...
@stevepower98013 ай бұрын
So glad you guys are going to do a Smiths album in full. I couldn't get into them in my youth in the 80's. I was more of a metalhead back then. I still love heavier stuff, but I got to appreciate The Smiths a lot more once I got to my mid 20's and beyond around the mid to late 90's onwards. Morrissey has become a bit of a disappointment in more recent years with his political views, but back then, his lyrics and Marr's music were simply sublime.
@JamesCormier3 ай бұрын
A shyness that is criminally vulgar could be interpreted as homosexual. The 80s were still daring times for the subject. Moz had definite lyrical subject matter pertaining to the difficulties of being outcast and alone. Some Morrissey solo work please. Suedehead would be a great place to start.
@FritzMonday3 ай бұрын
Great song! Released long before Charmed !
@sigil57723 ай бұрын
"So you go and you stand on your own/And you leave on your own/And you go home and you cry/And you want to die" - arguably, in the UK anyway, The Smiths caught a wave of teen angst after there'd been a few years of angry political music (punk/two-tone) and/or rather sneeringly style-conscious electro-pop (Duran Duran/Spandau Ballet), so when the kids heard Morrissey's mournful self-pity they cottoned on immediately, like "he's singing about ME"
@Ericmeredith32093 ай бұрын
I have no idea why I know this song! But I must have heard on radio as a child. Recognized it immediately ! Cool song! Look forward to the full Album react of theirs❤
@markjones1273 ай бұрын
An awful cover of it was the theme tune to the popular TV series Charmed, so you might have heard that in the background a few times
@MonsterSound.Bradley3 ай бұрын
Yes, Alternative rock was a thing in the '80's. Loved this song immediately. I also learned a ton getting that split punchy kick drum sound that slaps HARD but doesn't sound heavily over compressed. I can still remember the setup/settings. Also, the stereo tremolo guitar is epic. Cheers & ThX guys 🎵😎👍
@ericsierra-franco78023 ай бұрын
No one called this Alternative in the 80's.
@MonsterSound.Bradley3 ай бұрын
@@ericsierra-franco7802 What? You're speaking for the whole World? In the '80's in Toronto, the term alternative rock was used by NOW Magazine, CIUT, CFNY radio, ....
@dimmuborgir48043 ай бұрын
Student music. Great memories of those student bars/pubs halcyon days…❤
@robfractal68202 ай бұрын
The alternative rock music genre in the early 80s UK differentiate itself from classic, prog, punk rock, pop, etc etc. Many bands started up alternative music labels that got swallowed up in time by big corporates.
@Theremedialgash2 ай бұрын
Even the TATU version is pretty good. Nice vid - it is just a really good song.
@johncampbell7563 ай бұрын
Alternative rock started in the early 1980s and was epitomized by early REM, The Smiths, and others. It was definitely a genre by 1984. Absolutely. For me personally, I felt Sheila Take a Bow (Smiths) and Feeling Gravity's Pull (REM) were the definitive songs. Others will have their own choices.
@patkincaid80612 ай бұрын
Interesting tidbit is that this song was used as inspiration for the X-Files theme.
@FloatingAnarchy613 ай бұрын
Hatful Of Hollow would be a great place to start. Some of their biggest songs but done for Radio Sessions (mostly John Peel). Most of the songs on there surpass their studio or single versions.
@2ramona9593 ай бұрын
My top Smiths album. If I could only have one, easy choice.
@angeloscarcroce7263 ай бұрын
Morrissey, una persona sensible que supo incursionar en temas difíciles de enfrentar en los ochenta. Hermosa banda. Saludos desde Temperley, BsAs.
@jameswarner58093 ай бұрын
Another boundary-pushing track, this time from the early 90s, is Only Shallow by My Bloody Valentine.
@luismode-2 ай бұрын
The freaking smiths man, the greatest band of Manchester, first smiths and then we can talk about the rest, the stone roses, oasis, etc…
@JeffCappelletti-e6l2 ай бұрын
The stereo panned guitar could only be recorded 12 Seconds at a time. Two amplifiers miked in stereo and a stereo tremolo pedal was used for that effect. Any more than 12 seconds the effect would go out of control and would not sound right . How soon is now is one of The Smiths greatest songs
@alejandrobojorquez61813 ай бұрын
ZERO 7 - "" LIKUFANELE "" ALBUM VERSION 2000s An Absolute Must Hear it only takes about 30 seconds for the Music to kick in and believe me Nick n Lex this song is Incredible plus the Vocals in the short intro lead up to an Amazing music journey for your ears 🎧🎶🎹🎺🎻 🎸 also "" DESTINY[Full Song] HD "" Album Version 2000s if youguys thought "" When It Falls "" was a great song these 2 others are Incredibly next level Good! and Amazing Sounding 👍☺️👍 Vocals too and Super Creative note Destiny includes Full Song HD in the title name so you get the complete unedited song and not the shorter version
@alansmith81953 ай бұрын
Last night I dreamt that somebody loved me.... Its a must 👍
@davehess10193 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD, this is the theme song to the TV show Charmed, Shannen Doherty, Holli Marie Combs and Allysa Milano and Rose McGowen about the three charmed witches, great show
@NicknLex3 ай бұрын
😱!!! I used to watch that show as a kid, I was obsessed!!! That’s probably the first time I heard it! Thank you!!
@davehess10193 ай бұрын
@@NicknLexYou're welcome, I've been watching that show for years and I still do to this day, I actually watched it this morning while I was working, I believe it's on TNT 6 am -10 am here in Pa.
@anthonypallen79193 ай бұрын
Yes but not by the smiths, its the Psychedelic Furs
@anthonypallen79193 ай бұрын
Its actually Love spit Love, but to me Richard Butler is the Psychedelic Furs. Charmed wasn't the Smiths version was my point
@davehess10193 ай бұрын
@@anthonypallen7919 ok
@robertoneill15593 ай бұрын
At a party many moons ago, the subject came up of the quintessential 80’s song, my brother suggested this one, room fell silent, hard to disagree.
@triscat3 ай бұрын
Long live Morrissey!
@wicky44733 ай бұрын
Number one?
@markclement85632 ай бұрын
This started off as a B side then was released later as a single due to popular demand
@bjwnashe55893 ай бұрын
There were many post-punk alternative rock bands in the 80s. Two of the most important were The Smiths from the UK, and REM from the States.
@pookiemartinez17453 ай бұрын
Morrisey and Billy Duffy mates from way back.
@aldo342 ай бұрын
Interestingly, songs in the key of F sharp tend to stick in your head. Not sure why. Where the musicologists at? :-) Anyone?
@NicknLex2 ай бұрын
Oh that’s an interesting theory, thanks for sharing!!
@Mickraut-xe5im3 ай бұрын
Great guitar on This Charming Man.
@michaelakkerman4073 ай бұрын
Johnny Marr was the most innovative guitarist to come from the 80's...by far!!!
@s.scottsdale18393 ай бұрын
Pffttt! You need to get out more. Not with the likes of My Bloody Valentine, Adrian Belew's 80's work, Reeves Gabrels, Vai, The Edge; to name a few.
@paulsharp25653 ай бұрын
Im a big Smiths fan, but cant seem to get this one. Its the only song i dont like by them. I suppose its not so surprising because the music is so different to the usual Smiths catalogue.
@elchuky19423 ай бұрын
Ya se q aca hay puros gringos pero el tema ELLA USO MI CABEZA COMO UN REVOLVER DE SODA O CRIMEN DE GUSTAVO CERATI TEMAZOS y que se mueran los feos decia mi abuela
@22Phantasm3 ай бұрын
Hello. I have asked numerous reactors to listen to 'Bad Day' by Carmel. All have ignored me. Her voice is something to admire - please consider this 1983 classic. Thanks.
@adrianos1983 ай бұрын
That joke isnt funny anymore ......that the one. Its haunting. The bass...
@bikerkermitАй бұрын
I'm sorry, but what do we have today that compares to the sound and skill of the 80s? Nicky Minaj? Give me a break...
@NicknLexАй бұрын
We’ve covered a lot of newer artists that aren’t on radio play who have created great sounds - you just have to venture out and look for them, but they’re there!
@bikerkermitАй бұрын
@@NicknLex great point, thanks for the response. I guess in fairness I should have included the word "mainstream" in my initial point
@NicknLexАй бұрын
Yes, then totally agree… sadly 😭 All we can do is support those who are trying out there and hope that one day that music becomes mainstream again… 🙏
@JohnnyJohnny-f5o3 ай бұрын
Don't know why we're watching people listen to songs they've already heard. Seems to defeat the purpose of a reaction video.
@triscat3 ай бұрын
Just for fun. Why not? It's their channel. You can watch or not watch.
@Shabenn3 ай бұрын
It's the Rock and Roll Alternative!
@JohnMcaulay-gp6nb3 ай бұрын
Hey NicknLex, this was the theme tune to an American TV series in the mid to late 90's & early 2000's called Charmed, about 3 sisters who were good witches, fighting against evil. It wasn't the Smiths version though, it was a cover version, but very, very similar to the Smiths. Check it out. Cheers from Glasgow, Scotland.