Nietzsche and Madness - A Descent into the Depths

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Or as the bible puts it ..jesus went to hell and made it out!!

[@albertoanacletti7817]

The underworld ..that charlie manson talked about ..the descent into madness

[@kevinrevs4929]

"No tree, it is said, can grow to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell.” -C.G. Jung

[@joellovell6240]

taken from Nietzhse. From the Geneology.

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Wow

[@joellovell6240]

oh. my b. its actually from Zarathustra, but he expresses the same idea in more of an explanatory way in the Genealogy.

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"The roots of The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (the tree in the garden of Eden) are intertwined."

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@@genkiferal7178 If it were not so intertwined, esp within ourselves, then how are we mere mortals to ever apprehend it.

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When he said " it hurts me frightfully that in these 15 years not one single person has discovered me, has needed me, has liked me" i was so damn upset that i couldn't just hug the man, goddamn how smart he was and how saving he is to brilliant minds, i can't believe someone like this felt so deeply a lack of love, it burns me to think about this, he died thinking he's alone...

[@erwinwoodedge4885]

He fell in love only once (with the much younger Lou Andres-Salomé), and he fell hard when the love wasn't reciprocated. Ever since that moment, his romantic heart was crashed.

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[@johnm.5913]

Many of us do.

[@PolishBehemoth]

I smacked my head and got teary eyed when I saw that. Why couldnt somebody give the man a hug? Damn thos people around him. But he was visited. Y people at the hospital.

[@Loveoverfear1001]

Perhaps he meant that the real self transcends beyond what others are capable of seeing? Just perhaps.

[@Tiberon674]

"I became insane with long intervals of horrible sanity." ~Edgar Allan Poe

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[@TheREDSKAL]

Good one

[@TaunellE]

I like that. Staying with the dark theme. Awesome quote. 🕯🖤

[@c.galindo9639]

It is suffering that causes some to be greatly inspired and gives them great endurance

[@Shadow77999]

I wonder in what context he meant by this

[@ahmarcamacho8404]

My man Nietzsche was too metal for his own good, RIP to that thinking lad.

[@readandreflect8045]

I like to think of him as the forerunner to heavy metal

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

❤️

[@OCD-GUY]

Hello Ahmar, what do you mean by "too metal for his own good" Can you elaborate on that.

[@ahmarcamacho8404]

@@OCD-GUY In that, Nietzcshe committed so completely to his pursuits in thought. To delve so deep in the realm of thinking is a brutal and arguably horrific endeavor. Akin to watching an animal being brutal disemboweled in nature, its "metal".

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Your eloquence is unmatched :)

[@Dacademeca]

To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[@Enmanuel_V6]

I’ve found meaning and I see now that the only 2 constants are death and pain

[@palecurve]

My favourite quote of his, let alone of all time. It is what fuels my day to day grind.

[@hoodieap2858]

There is no meaning though I can find it’s just useless

[@mahatmacharya]

Just an observation: The ancient religion of Buddhism also begins with acknowledging this fact of suffering but proceeds to find a way to allay suffering for all and ends up giving the virtues of Knowledge, Harmony and Amity for everyone's well being. Mr. Nietzsche on the other hand is pessimistic about this problem and seeks to create mutual enemies out of all people, dividing them into types having master and slave morality

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@@mahatmacharya ... samsara indeed ! 😏 0m mani padme hung 🙏🌹

[@siddalingasedamkar1564]

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. Friedrich Nietzsche

[@joself3602]

Hate to break it to you but Nietzsche did not say that. It probably originates from the French writer Germaine de Staël. Still is a great quote tho

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

@@joself3602 are you sure? I googled it, every source is telling it's by Nietzche, my friend.

[@joself3602]

@@SuperBhavanishankar the problem is that non of the sources mention where they found the quote and I haven’t found anyone who could point to a book/letter/note from which it originates from.

[@shepherdoffire9263]

@@SuperBhavanishankar it is not by Nietzsche.

[@shepherdoffire9263]

@@SuperBhavanishankar no existing proof of him EVER saying or writing that.

[@siddalingasedamkar1564]

In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. Friedrich Nietzsche (uttered before he himself went insane)

[@jeevajyothis3785]

Love that quote

[@siddalingasedamkar1564]

@@jeevajyothis3785 it's ironic how he himself went insane in the end!

[@chicxulub2947]

@@siddalingasedamkar1564 But that was exactly was he was looking for! After learning that everybody is insane there is nowhere else to go in his search and pursuit of truth.

[@jeevajyothis3785]

As someone who has been fascinated by Nietzsche's philosophy since teenage years, thanks a lot for this video

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@Brendon Kennedy yes he can -Kafka

[@nanetteparratto-wagner1127]

God is dead. - Nietzsche Nietzsche is dead. - God

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@@nanetteparratto-wagner1127 you would think christians who devouted their entire existence to a book made of metaphors, tales and myths would appreciate the symbology of the phrase "God is dead" and it's explanation. Yet they prefer to quote it as a literal statement. Like a catchy cereal tv ad.

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Very true 👏

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@@chriswilson8734 Definitely. ♥️

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More like YT being gracious to let us know the "learning" haters MAD enough to comment, as in, "ignorance" to spew it ALL over.

[@moraesigor89]

Maybe for a philosopher, going mad would be the equivalent of a rapper going to jail to push some record sales. 😂

[@JohnC-iv8jo]

ye but surely his magnificent mustache would have sported some kind of grill, if that where the case

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[@seperfecto6677]

Life is of paradoxical nature paradox , it’s hard but just deal with it

[@shrilltiger5027]

About the same goes with artist such as painter

[@MrTartuVaim]

Or for poet to die young

[@wildbodies8501]

There is a false saying: “How can someone who can’t save himself save others?” Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

That’s deep buddy it’s true everyone is unique just like their problems

[@eminbedir6247]

@@mysteryjunkie9808 Problems of those who are ignorant about themselves and the world are as simple as their mind.

[@dharmabum1111]

My favorite Nietzsche quote. So relevant to a relationship I've been in, focused on our mental health.

[@wynnschaible]

But that 'false saying' is precisely the one the Pharisees flung at Jesus as he hung on the cross. What might the self-described Antichrist have said to that?

[@Wisenfrosty]

Not sure if I agree with this. As someone who struggles with addictions and depression I do go out of my way to make sure other people won't hurt or destroy themselves because of ignorance and stupidity.

[@clayburris2757]

Youre never naked when you have a mustache like that...even when playing the piano...

[@DopamineSchizo]

as a schizophrenic , my first psychosis my sister thought i was acting. its hard to believe people you know go mad or delusional

[@JaxAndree]

My heart goes out to you and your family. I have a family member that suffers from schizophrenia and it sucks big time. Sending love your way.

[@kewlenjo219]

My son seems to have delusions, some paranoia but otherwise seems normal. Like he can hold conversations, walk, etc and this started to happen because he smoked weed daily, heavily since 2018 due to being super depressed over a break up, job loss, loss of apartment and pandemic. He was fine until he ran out of weed. He also doesn't hear voices but just believes some weird stuff but at the same time the stuff he believes is trippy but exists-like astral planes, theoretical concepts from brain/computer interface ie Elon Musks neural link and concepts from theoretical physics. So I don't know if he is having a drug withdrawal, a drug induced psychosis, or just tripping from too much THC. I thought to be schizophrenic though you have to hear voices (hallucinations), delusions, can't string words together that make sense, have a weird gait? Since you are dealing with schizophrenia, what has worked to help you?

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We have a close relative diagnosed schizophrenic. It was hell for all involved. Ultimately he committed suicide. Age ~40. He was treated but it did not save him sorry to say.

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@@kewlenjo219 your son is not delusional. He just has a weeb for a parent. Any person would be a little screwed up from that.

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@moon dust Actually, no. But I test as INFJ.

[@jeevajyothis3785]

I guess madness is an everpresent cloud hanging over everyone who dare to tread on the dark domains of philosophy

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

wow nicely put!

[@SuperBhavanishankar]

But they are not mad. They are normally mad. We are abnormally sane.

[@jeevajyothis3785]

@@SuperBhavanishankar Abnormally sane. I like that. After all who gets to decide the boundaries of sanity...

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How do we expect folks to act who have the fortitude to stare directly into their own suffering?

[@whocaresudo]

I think those who go into subconcious.

[@Dacademeca]

"Without music, life would be a mistake." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Love that

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Are you just trying to get likes by multiposting quotes?

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@@kingwinter2024 no, who cares about.likes. they are rly attificial.i just want to help ppl with these quotes on the subject. :)

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@@Dacademeca "Who cares for the likes". Yeah, right, man. I'm sure. Nobody cares about 'likes' on social media platforms.

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Do birds sing music?

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there is no in between in life ; either you use your full potential or not

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....Ok

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I don't think I agree but thinking that makes you try doing the impossible

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POV: You are always using your full potential no matter what 🤨

[@zorzeus]

To be honest, I've waited for this for a long time.

[@TchekaTcheka]

Hearing this makes me wish to go back somehow, wrap my arms around him and give him a big hug. Powerful, tragic and emotional.

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Give a hug on someone who is alive and needing it today. Emotions are too special to spend on imaginary friends.

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@@chicxulub2947 so true 💞 spread the love

[@KeepTheGates]

Great minds seem to be the most susceptible to madness

[@felixculpa9303]

Accurate... genius & madness goes hand in hand.

[@MrJamesdryable]

Wrong. You only think that because they're the ones you hear about.

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

Curse of knowledge

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@brokenupbeat Yeah, most people agree that's the cause

[@treesurgeon2441]

With increased complexity in any system the potential accumulation of errors and their consequences multiply.

[@FutureMindset]

The most challenging aspect of existence is facing the void of existence. We try and fill it with religion or constantly chase pleasure. It seems that we developed a level of self-awareness that made us question our own existence and ponder over it but we're also faced with the limits of our thinking and that leaves us confused and lost.

[@Gallowglass7]

Indeed, well said.

[@jeevajyothis3785]

Yes once we see the void as it is, we realize how fake everything else we build around it is

[@Gallowglass7]

Look up Joshua Bach talking with Lex Fridman

[@RadiaUmbra]

Yeah there's literally no in-between, humans are either questioning reality or reproducing (or procrastinating until they get to that point)

[@kubasniak]

You can fill it with God and not religion. I spent years staring at the void and as an atheist but I changed my ways and follow Christ without religious superficial stuff and hypocrisy. I fail a lot at being a good christian but I strive for it best I can in my ways. I probably wouldn't be here to write a comment if not God.

[@H3c171]

What if... this treasure we all seek to achieve is the very madness itself?

[@chicxulub2947]

To understand the madness in everybody to better mimic itself. Yeah. Totally. He saw he was gonna die alone if he didn't try to learn how to be one of the cattle. He died alone because it took him too long to figure it out. He pursued that so he could not die alone. Intelligence is against this whole business of madness because it is stupid. Stupidity is at the core and that will be the last thing a real intelligent person will look for.

[@caseymariez]

I was thinking this too, what if he achieved his lifelong aim, we just can't see it as positive bc of our conditioning.

[@CoreyHunter]

Truly a man who went his own way.

[@PolishBehemoth]

And suffered greatly for it with depression.

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@@PolishBehemoth but look what he created

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[@gyulavinnai304]

Suffering in my experience could be seen as the ultimate driving force on the path, which supposed to lead the human psyche into subjectively higher truths about the existence and oneself. The more the suffering, the potentially deeper and clearer the individual's soul is.

[@1214gooner]

“The poet only asks to get his head into the heavens. It is the logician who seeks to get the heavens into his head. And it is his head that splits.” -Chesterton

[@pinksupremacy6076]

Thus spoke Zarathustra is one of my favorite books.

[@maralfniqle5092]

Everyone else thought him mad, he was just becoming a shaman. Sounds like he had a spiritual awakening and didn't want to live in the "world" anymore. It's also evident that the medical professionals of the day poisoned him good and proper

[@simon1374]

Nothing has changed in the medical profession.

[@chicxulub2947]

@@simon1374 It began THAT WAY

[@chicxulub2947]

@L94 And too good to let himself corrupt for... good!

[@logy650]

Few stories will ever hit me as heavily as Nietzsche’s has. Every time I hear it it’s like raking up old wounds.

[@joeywantstoplay]

@GreatGallopingGulags I love your name bud. :) Your perception is astute. I offer this paltry expression to FN & to you if you have use of it, if not discard these words. I hope to help him heal in death, that he was unable to find in life. Feel free to join me in whatever way you see fit, if you choose to, maybe this small gesture can assist you in some way. It's all I have & I give it freely. This Titan Lived! This mortal man killed god/dog. We stand on the shoulders of this HUE-Man, so we can stand where we are, NOW! His courage was unmatched. His spirit was unwavering. Yet in his time, his society & surroundings drove him mad..... because this Titan was forced to compromise & ultimately bend to the will of the cowardly parasites that surround him. This magnificent tortured mind/soul of Friedrich Nietzsche, deserved better. Let us learn & rescue this great man from his pains, so we may give him that which he needed in life... as abundance in his death.....I offer my Support, Acknowledgement, Love & Appreciation. Rest In Peace, Good Sir, your bravery & feats will never be forgotten. I would have liked to be there for you in some way, to ease your burden, So you didn't feel so alone....I know that feeling too well. Thank you for helping me prepare for life & sacrificing, for all of us sinners..... that don't deserve your insights & gifts, but are richer because you didn't find peace. Friedrich, I send you Ease, Joy & Acceptance to heal from the scars you bear from this sick experiment, that is life. Let these wounds heal over, so they are no longer raw in any way. Become complete with ease, you earned it.

[@shayneb3540]

If I could say one thing to Friedrich Nietzsche, it would have to be: "I understand you."

[@prithvirajdey5770]

He once saw a horse being beaten brutally. He rushed towards it and hugged it. Saying 'I understand you.' It's said that after this experience, he went insane...

[@shayneb3540]

@@prithvirajdey5770 It's also symbolic... The horse is a living, feeling, and thinking creature. The horse has a sense of self and a presence of mind about his life. The horse carries and serves the man who beats him and while he could stomp man to death if he wanted to, he doesn't. The horse can't communicate with the man in a way his small mind would understand. The horse understands something the man doesn't so he chooses to resist in order to preserve his freedom, and his life. All the man understands is the horse isn't listening to him so he beats him instead of trying to understand the horse like a compassionate and rational thinking person would.

[@otaviorodrigues7970]

@@shayneb3540 Man, i never thought this way. Amazing perspective on the subject. Considering this, maybe Nietzsche had a deeper connection with that horse than he did with anybody else he knew his entire lifetime. Sorry for any mistakes, i'm from Brazil.

[@otaviorodrigues7970]

@@shayneb3540 you also could say that the horse carries the burden that men can't, that men aren't strong enough to carry. Just like Nietzsche and his philosophy.

[@shayneb3540]

@@otaviorodrigues7970 No mistakes. I would say you're fluent enough to get by in any English speaking country. Yeah that's an interesting point too. The horse is stronger than the man in every which way possible. Not only does he carry a burden man can't handle, but his unwillingness to lash out in revenge raises some questions about what Nietzsche meant by "I understand you." Maybe Nietzsche saw the horse as something that is loyal, gentle, loving, and compassionate towards a creature that is not only weaker than him, but tragically disconnected with nature.. so much so that the horse willingly sacrifices his own freedom, dignity, and autonomy in order to live up to what he believes to be God's greater purpose.

[@WeltgeistYT]

Wanted to make a video on exactly this subject, but you've done the subject justice. Great vid as always.

[@eternaldoorman5228]

Another possibility is that he did in fact "find the philosopher's stone" and his subsequent psychological rebirth took the form of madness. This was possibly because of his relatively advanced state of knowledge compared with that of his peers which was already evident to many even if nobody could bring themselves to say it. Madness is never a property of an individual person, but a condition of the way society treats certain individuals. See the beautiful work of R.D.Laing on schizophrenia for more on this. Laing must have had lot to say about Nietzsche, ... This is another great video. Thank you!

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[@Aklemvaeo]

I will always appreciate the dry humour in his writings. Don't fret, Freddy, people are still looking for the Lapis Philosophorum, and none of those who are looking think that it will be "fun" nor "easy." Whomever has undertaken the journey as well, I wish a solid Godspeed.

[@domagojbogdan22]

I've had a dream some time ago, but I ponder on it every once in a while still trying to understand what it means. I don't remember the whole dream but the most important part went like so: I was in a big house, just roaming around (I have a feeling like it was my house, or I was looking into buying it or something like that, but it wasn't the house I actually live in). I went down to the basement, and there I found a room where there was a big black hole in the middle, it was so deep it was like looking into an abyss. And there were people gathered there, they took turns sort of bungee jumping into it. They acted all wierd and crazy, I don't think I was scared, just found everything a bit odd. And then I remember there was this old man with long grey beard cloked in white robes standing beside the deep black pit. I asked him what this was all about, and he said that these people were jumping into the abyss so they can heal their mental illnesses. Nothing much happened after that and I soon woke up, feeling like I figured out something really important, but still can't quite tell what it is. As I am interested in philosophy, most recently in Eastern philosophy, tradition and religion, I stumbled upon a Sadhguru video in which he talks about tantric yoga and the awakening of the Sahasrara, or the seventh chakra. If I remember correctly, he said that in theory and in practice there is no way to "move" consciousness from the 6th to 7th chakra, in other words it happens suddenly and it has to be done as sort of a leap of faith, there are no methods to do it. He also said that there is a very thin line between madness and enlightenment. Now, the man's integrity can be questioned of course, I just found it very interesting the way he described enlightenment as basically something that cannot be controlled voluntarily. Alan Watts also said that "awakening" happens when you are ready, not by your choice. More and more as I contemplate these questions and let my mind roam free, I feel that there is 'something' that is not intelligible to us, and that all these people are right in their own way. Maybe Nietzsche was finally liberated in a way by going mad (mad from our perspective at least). Maybe once we get a glimpse of that which is unintelligible we either become insane and lose all sense of self, or we manage to integrate it into our already established reality. To descend to the depths of ourselves we must already be mad, or we will become mad during the journey. Disclaimer: I am aware that dreams are heavily influenced by our day to day life and our thoughts, certainly my dream was a reflection of my thinking, but at that time I know I never thought about madness and it's connection with exploration of the mind. The ways of the subconscious are mysterious at best. Thank you for the amazing content!

[@CapaneusoftheGnosticLegion]

You are right that something is mostly unintelligible by words, he realized he was the all experiencing itself as many, he even started going by the names of his passed lives, he gave all his "belongings" away too. He truly reached immortality and him being unplugged from the illusion of life looked like him going mad to everyone who were still unaware of their hidden selves.

[@CapaneusoftheGnosticLegion]

This is a shared dream

[@neraklh1017]

I was wondering how I have not watched this Academy of Ideas video yet, then I saw this video was posted today, good stuff

[@Dan-ud8hz]

“There is no joy equal to that of being able to work for all humanity and doing what you're doing well.” R. Buckminster Fuller, Critical Path

[@Mako7eyes]

A friend of a friend was once locked up in an asylum for 2 weeks, he had been admitted by the cops after they found him wandering around on a pretty strong trip. When he came back around and explained himself they completely believed him yet still had to hold him for 2 weeks. That and this remind me of that quote "The shaman delights in the same waters where the schizophrenic drowns"

[@CJWolf-st1qi]

Congrats on 1M bruv! Well deserved!! :)

[@andredelacerdasantos4439]

For anybody interested in the topic of insanity, I would highly suggest listening to Beethoven's 29th piano sonata, especially considering Nietzsche was very fond of Beethoven and played the piano.

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Instantly

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LAW ✊🏽

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Me too! He’s a awesome

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

What a cliffhanger! Can't wait for the next video.

[@JaxAndree]

Sometimes life feels like teetering on a tightrope with madness on one side and enlightenment on the other...

[@northeastslingshot1664]

I was introduced to Nietzsche thru a witty t-shirt in the 80's. "God is dead" Nietzsche "Nietzsche is dead" God

[@arkansastrey9694]

I want that tshirt

[@heathermcdermott2171]

😉 he will figure it out eventually 🥰

[@danielschaeffer1294]

That t-shirt should read “God is dead, but I’m not!” There’s another t-shirt that quotes Luis Bunuel. “Thank God I’m an atheist.”

[@briangoodman1779]

I was introduced through the movie Cape Fear, when Max Cady went to the library to read Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

[@Shadow77999]

The king is dead, long live the queen

[@mmarook4223]

Neitzsche descent into the abyss is fascinating

[@antispindr8613]

Looking at much of his work, and many of his dark ideas, did he have that far to descend?

[@serendipity9944]

I feel the more you delve into life itself, the more you discover, if you can’t grasp it or have nothing to keep you stable, you could definitely go insane! Most people are so consumed with living this fake life and have no desire to know our true existence. Or some try and find beauty in this realm to keep them sane! I had a friend who had to work constantly, she said it stopped her thinking 💭

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Ahhhh. Madness. I’m almost there.

[@felixculpa9303]

Join me... it absurdly fun here.

[@henrykissenger9846]

It's fun until they throw you in the urgent psychiatric center. Place blows. Had to go there twice now.

[@kevinc721]

Hey, I hope all three of you are doing okay, and just want to say that if you ever need someone to reach out to, I’m here for you guys

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

@@kevinc721 what can you offer? I’m sincerely asking. What could you possibly do to help?

[@kevinc721]

@@joleaneshmoleane8358 well, I’m not completely sure exactly as to what extent I can help, but I guess I just imagined that whatever it is that your going through and dealing with, would be easier to go through and deal with if you had someone who was understanding towards what you were dealing with, by your side. I get that that there’s a chance that might not mean much to you or seem helpful at all, but I just know from my own experience, when dealing with something similar to what I think you might be going through, it’s helpful to have people who understand and care about what your experiencing. So I guess I’m just trying to offer help, from what I know felt helpful to me, and I know other people might feel differently about that

[@anshengwang4708]

Uncanny, I was just reading a bit of “Thus Spake Zarathustra” yesterday and wondered how did Nietzsche went insane, and found this video today, posted exactly...yesterday.

[@billybifta3966]

to be fair, the worms we call ''normal people'' would probably read zarathustra and conclude that the author was already ''insane''.

[@milkyway4623]

“Woman is at best, a cow” - Nietszche, Thus spoke Zarathustra 🤣

[@crimsonblade1857]

Nietszche based af

[@somethingyousaid5059]

As uddered by him. 😁

[@xul3184]

Him and Schopenhauer knew what was up

[@felixculpa9303]

My boy Nietzsche... HIGH BEAST!

[@RadiaUmbra]

lmao

[@arieldebarros]

This was one of the most profound videos on this channel.

[@TheJudgeandtheJury]

I’m very much interested in Nietzsche, great video.

[@charlesallen9045]

I’m speechless... finally someone who feels the way I do

[@knowthyselfandyoullknowthe8216]

great video. When you know astrology (real astrology) and you read his chart it's so clear and fascinating, this man was a scorpio rising with his sun and mercury being opposed to Pluto (Hades) his whole life has been about the descent into the underworld, it was a long nigredo not only for himself but for the collective, but with great knowledge comes a price, in his chart there's clearly a faustian myth, at the end he was possessed by the forces of the underworld (Hades, Dionysus...). In january of 1889 he was going through an Uranus (Prometheus) transit on his Sun/Pluto opposition ...I do believe he has found the treasure that's why he became "mad" ....

[@td8383]

Hi, who do you recommend for reading charts? Thanks

[@sk8trryan1997]

I didn’t know there was video footage of Nietzsche! How horrifying!

[@KenoshaKicker]

He who cannot command himself will be commanded.

[@Fae313]

You are doing a real public service by creating this channel. Thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏

[@user-gn5qt4hi9s]

This information evokes deep and noble thoughts. Thanks.

[@Gabsboy123]

Teacher: The test isn't that hard The test: _And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you_ (a) Free (b) Mad

[@Shadow77999]

Lmao nice one

[@wildlysuccessfulchristians]

The answer is free

[@JCPoetryCourner]

@@wildlysuccessfulchristians You might have the answer, but it says nothing of what strife it took of you to obtain.

[@wildlysuccessfulchristians]

@@JCPoetryCourner It took a lot of strife

[@thinginground5179]

both.

[@vneger2377]

I'm no psycologist or philosopher, but what I think happened is that he had a mental breakdown due to chronic pain, depression, stress and drugs and he never recovered.

[@vneger2377]

@common SCIENCE he was a great mind, it's sad that we lost him before he could finish developing his philosophy.

[@simonduvall1102]

He had syphilis which untreated causes psychosis. If you've read his works you can tell the stark contrast towards the end of his philosophical/academic career

[@vneger2377]

@@simonduvall1102 yes that is the commonly accepted theory.

[@badmen1550]

Yeah, I'm skeptical of any of the theories that say "hE wEnT tOo fArrr DoWn ThE rAbBit HoLe mAaaan...." In my opinion, you can never go too far. Of course it might mean that you get made to drink poison or crucified, but so what? At that point I'd want to leave too.

[@vneger2377]

@@badmen1550 yup I never heard of someone that became insane by thinking alone, what I heard are people with really stressful jobs (world leaders, CEOs etc.) having a breakdown, getting hospitalized and then coming back better than before. For this reason, if you exclude an organic cause, I think the breakdown theory is the more credible.

[@inbillsmind3048]

We are born into a world of madness and the trick is to find ourselves , battling first our programmes from childhood then forging a path that truly benefits ourselves and others , seeing things as Thay truly are and eventually not getting lost in the body’s motions .

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

Even though I think that Nietzsche had some kind of organic disorder that led to his madness I enjoyed this immensely. It is a pity how he suffered and truly amazing that he left us with so much.

[@JohnC-iv8jo]

maybe he found Schopenhauer to be correct and it was beyond bearable, due to holding the intellect to make it provable

[@briangoodman1779]

That may be right.

[@somethingyousaid5059]

As far as I'm concerned, the deeper the insight the closer the suicide.

[@extra2ab]

Don't take life seriously

[@felixculpa9303]

The deeper the insight the closer to revelation.

[@TENTHMAG]

This is a dangerous way to think and quite frankly untrue as well. Suicide is irrational and the result of mental illness, not something to be coveted.

[@RadiaUmbra]

@@TENTHMAG Attributing everything to a "mental illness" is irrational as well, not everything is a condition, ffs.

[@Aklemvaeo]

I think it may bring one to the idea of "checking out early" because such journeys almost always undermine the foundations that one has had their life built upon... all the original motivations, emotions, goals, drives, are all brought into question. Quoted in the video itself - "burrowing into the foundations." It's not a fun task. If it were easy, everyone walking around would be a veritable Marcus Aurelius, but that is clearly not how it is.

[@manimaljack6368]

This is fantastic! I am really looking forward to the next part in this series.

[@Grosefrmchrchst]

Nietzsche remains mysterious to this day. Just one aspect that adds to his enormous legacy.

[@merdas9058]

Nietzsche became Joker before Joker even existed maybe his madness was partly inspiration for dc villain Joker

[@globalnomad1221]

he was so far ahead of his time, he was unseen and unknowable....

[@briangoodman1779]

Yep. He is the last great philosopher. Forget Heidegger, Sartre, Foucault etc.

[@PhilosophyStudio]

Another phenomenal work by Academy of Ideas! Love this channel

[@EJNGH]

Every bit of this video was very touching, but I feel you derailed from the spirit of it with the last sentence, about faking madness. You can question whether or not it is madness (or both, finding it and going mad in his tragic case), but saying faking it feels so "Unnietzschean". In either case, what we can witness for sure, is a terrifying consequence of a genuine exploration of the depths of the unconsciousness.

[@Xisk77]

So in short, he has gone crazy from fully comprehending himself and the world to a degree people are afraid too. To not only experience and witness the full reality of our world to to also comprehend it beyond what most dare. Eventually he couldn't contain his laughter anymore because he was suffering so much. He is literally OG joker 😄

[@Aklemvaeo]

That's a good take on it. Aside from him not willingly inflicting chaos on others.

[@Xisk77]

@@CRM-114 you must be so much fun at parties hehe 😜

[@Xisk77]

@@Aklemvaeo yeah, like if the Joker wasn't a murderous fuck up ya know?

[@sonofclay]

Kind of liking taking a lot of acid without any recourse to cannabis or even mushrooms.

[@Xisk77]

@@sonofclay spot on mate 👌 but skip the acid too and just go straight to intravenous dmt 😆

[@luckyday6356]

Maybe madness was the treasure.

[@prabhdeepsingh5642]

I subscribed to this channel when it had < 100k subscribers and seeing it now at 1 million is a proof that if your words have power, people will gladly come and listen to you.

[@gm5605]

Philosphers are one of humanities greatest gift.. They take on the arduous, frustrating, exhausting but rewarding task of diving deep into the realms of the human mind to try and give adequate solutions, relief and satisfaction and answers to all of society who desperately need this. They essentially brave the scary task of dissenting the profound, sick, and bewildering nature of the humans to try and elevate us to a better state of being. They do all this knowing that most will overlook their works, reject it, misunderstand it, but that there are a few who will get their message, and who will continually evolve it for the betterment of human kind. They have also had to rid themselves of the many defaults they grew with in order to be able to advice others, and have to live with the fact that their work is not one that will necessarily bring recognition, or acknowledgment, but that they will get their satisfaction from the betterment of human kind.

[@BenjaminSussmann]

Thank you

[@xeraph02]

I always thought that he intentionally made himself mad, if you read his last writings there are some cues of him playing with that idea.

[@pvtbx4198]

I'm always so excited to see a new video posted

[@johnnyroycerichardsoniii3273]

Congrats on 1 million!! This channel has provided me with so much value, thank you incredibly!!

[@benjamindover4337]

Frederick Nietzsche: The original horse whisperer.

[@edwardwoods3097]

Only a true fan will get this.

[@DreaminBig]

Lol

[@a-rod1527]

😭

[@jonrinoandreassen5431]

Not many understand this. But is it true, or is it a myth?

[@vulnerablegrowth3774]

I’ve always been resistant to the theory that he lost himself in the depths of his mind. It’s too attractive as a reason. In other words, it makes for such a great story that people are willing to put too much weight on it. Syphilis is much less interesting as a story. Even Jung was essentially pointing out that Nietzsche’s descent was the cause of his breakdown. Why? Because Jung himself was afraid that he would end up in a similar place and so he explained that he was better than Nietzsche and would not suffer the same fate. I’m not saying there is not merit to the argument, just that people might be too quick to jump on it because it makes for a more interesting explanation.

[@CaptainBohnenbrot]

I completely agree. Nietzsche's philosophy and he as a person are painfully overromanticized. And to be honest, this channel is doing the same thing, too.

[@bl4ckmagic345]

Vulnerable Growth sounds like a book written by The Last Man

[@Berserkism]

Sounds like he had Kuru or some such TSE. Would explain his father's "brain inflammation" death and thus his son's predisposition to the same, or perhaps direct contraction from his father.

[@vulnerablegrowth3774]

Just to be clear, I’m a big fan of Nietzsche. He’s one of the few philosophers I actually admire. But because I admire him doesn’t mean I have to romanticize his death.

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

I agree syphilis is a much less romantic reason for his madness but is a better explanation. Having worked in mental health myself I would say that, in my experience, a psychotic break after one has passed through their 20s usually has an organic cause.

[@PJ-ns6um]

Madness is rare in individuals but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule. -Nietzsche

[@michaeldamato9466]

Philosophy brings you enlightenment, and madness, once you've reached the bottom it's impossible to come back to the top.

[@chicxulub2947]

I think the biggest problem for Nietzsche was that he had nobody. No wife, no kids, no family. That was the most painful thing for his life.

[@michaeldamato9466]

@@chicxulub2947 Most of these philosophers were single and even if they had families they'd be estranged, there's no way you can go so deep into the psyche, and still be connected with the outside world.

[@mikethetraveler]

Sound like the end result of an "ego" looking for love in the mind, and outside of the heart/Source.

[@A-No-One]

Perfectly stated

[@Vanyx1000]

neat, looking forward to the next video!

[@uberboyo]

Brilliant job! I look forward to part 2!

[@-Gorbi-]

Great video. Thanks for adding so much clarity to this topic

[@vinomatt]

You go looking for the Devil long enough, you just might find him.

[@teresawarnke999]

But is the devil actually our enemy? Jesus said that the greatest of all commandments is to love one another. If he were here to reconcile man to God, even though men were evil; wouldn't he advocate the reconciliation of Satan to God, and therefore facilitating the same forgiveness? Christianity dictates that we are to fear and loathe Satan while preaching to us to love our enemy. Why? If I say I love Satan, I cannot be a true Christian? The Christian faith does not honor the man whose name they have plagiarized. When someone tells me how sinful and evil it is to say this. I thank Jesus for teaching me to turn the other cheek, shake the dirt off my shoes and not waste any more of myself in their presence. God is Love Love is always right, it's not an option it is energy.

[@vinomatt]

@@teresawarnke999 I agree, it’s an interesting contradiction. However I can’t claim to even begin to understand the nature of the cosmic relationship between Jehovah and Satan. Suffice it to say I don’t believe he’s eligible for reconciliation.

[@teresawarnke999]

Some things we can never know definitively, but I think Satan is female and God's wife. She got Eve to prove to him that his creation was flawed. He believed that they were not until she tainted them and since she wrecked them she and her family had to go live with them and at the end of their project they will see who was right. But that is what is meant by His ways are wonderful, we wonder.

[@lilacperspective]

Timeless Masterpiece!

[@calibanxpable]

Thanks for the video. Something like this happened to me. Letting go of friends or old behaviors is a sign for the universe.

[@somechrisguy]

This is incredible. One of your best ones yet. Can't wait for pt 2

[@Dacademeca]

"That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[@BassJournal]

worst nietzsche quote ever

[@Dacademeca]

@@BassJournal why do u think that is.

[@monicathomas9075]

Survival mechanism quote...

[@saphiregem1275]

Not always true. Major brain injury doesn't usually make you stronger.

[@eminbedir6247]

I dont think that things that doesnt kill us makes us strong.Instead, They leaves us crippled. We think we are more durable than the past but it is just that we can not be crippled more. Once our hearts and minds have lost their function due to those that should have but not killed us. Now we are unable to love, trust and be honest.

[@nachiketmirkar4653]

Nietzsche is a warm blanket. ❤

[@andrewgirvan3540]

I picture the scene from full metal jacket where private Pyle is tuned in with a nice warm blanket!

[@nachiketmirkar4653]

Private pyle remained dormant to his own weakness rather than overcoming it.

[@markcarey67]

Love all the Remedios Varo paintings in this vid.

[@wietse8987]

I just got beyond good and evil and now you upload this, simply amazing

[@tru_710]

Sounds like what happened to Ludwig Josef Johann Wittgenstein, and by the change in tone of these videos, it sounds like the same things may be happening to many intellectuals today, at least behind the scenes.

[@thinkneothink3055]

I would love to hear what Nietzsche would have said about the Gnostics, though most of the Gnostic literature wasn’t available to him. I think he would have related to the Gnostics, like Jung did.

[@117Industries]

Depends which Gnostic. The old tradition maybe, but some of the modern gnostic hacks I think he would have deeply despised.

[@clickbaitcabaret8208]

This is a very compelling argument for Nietzsche's madness. Great job.

[@aman11337400]

How come, its a gigantically seemingly impossible task to gather such rarest of rare info from the dead past of a hero, whose mortal remains lies buried somewhere on this earth, but his spark of brilliance is radiating through you, my dear Canadian brothers. Par Excellence.

[@jenniferbuckle1]

Having had some experience of faked madness just before my brother took his own life, that is the closest supposition to my theory of his final 'madness'. I believe he was extremely blessed as a sacrificial soul sent with the greatest talents a man could have in order to 'kill' the very thing he 'knew' on a deeper level, a God external to us. And he initiated the next stage in our human development - the impetus for us to begin the journey inward in search of the Holy Grail, so to speak, that we are all connected and all of the divine, that God is to be found within and not without or above. His work was complete and peace was shown to him, and he took the consequence of a job-well-done, the lightness of being in madness. It was not made available to my brother because he had left too much undone. He craved the madness, a state he had pushed himself into before, but finally he was the most sane I had ever known him to be. From the moment I started to read into Nietzsche and his life he was revealed to me in a way that led to revelations for me which I now see as amongst the many proofs of our connectedness to all that is. I can quite understand why his message and his greatness would only come to fruition within the bounds of great suffering, isolation and lack of recognition. He would have been influenced in gratitude and by pride without these afflictions. Peace is too comfortable. I love this man so much. Thank you to both of you at Academy of Ideas for your great insights into all the subjects you engage with, and the way in which you distil deep knowledge into simple language in short bursts.

[@badmen1550]

"I believe he was extremely blessed as a sacrificial soul sent with the greatest talents a man could have in order to 'kill' the very thing he 'knew' on a deeper level, a God external to us. And he initiated the next stage in our human development - the impetus for us to begin the journey inward in search of the Holy Grail, so to speak, that we are all connected and all of the divine, that God is to be found within and not without or above. His work was complete and peace was shown to him, and he took the consequence of a job-well-done, the lightness of being in madness." Sounds a lot like a story from that one book, what's it called? The Bible, right? What was that Jewish guy's name? In all seriousness, it's as if humanity didn't really get the message the first couple times around, so people like Nietzsche have to restate it again in a different way. The irony in all of this is that Nietzsche had some serious issues with Christianity. Which were perhaps warranted after all. The truth often gets corrupted over time, lost, forgotten for generations until some light-bearer comes along and brings it back from the underworld.

[@jenniferbuckle1]

@@badmen1550 Yes, I agree with that. There were a number of lamplighters (as I like to think of them) around the same time, to name a few, Tesla, Freud, Jung and Steiner, and shortly to be followed by Einstein. I am sure they are always with us even if forgotten by the passage of time. Nietzsche was still wholly human and I am sure doubt was a big feature in his life, which worked positively for him, and perhaps until only the moment he decided to leave the world's reality of our being.

[@teresawarnke999]

Exactly ✨

[@teresawarnke999]

@@badmen1550 💯

[@puppan100]

Bing!