Nightlight Speaker Series: Kelly Surtees on Special Signatures in the Birth Chart

[@KellysAstrology]

Thanks again for having me speak Adam!

[@Adam-Elenbaas]

Let's do it again soon! :)

[@Ya_Love]

Dear Kelly, I'm just listening-in on this and I'm at the moment where you explain day and night charts. It's actually very clear, and then I just had a flash of insight about those people who are born close to the arctic circle, for ex. people born in Scandinavia where they have times in a year with very, very long days and also very, very long nights. Now I do see the sense in using whole house charts yet with such occurrences would it not make more sense then to use Placidus? For instance, it's summer and it does not get dark until maybe 11pm, and someone is born at let's say 10pm or 10:30pm and it's still light outside, which means in a whole house chart the sun will show up below the horizon. What would you recommend for such an occurrence? Thanks.

[@VJ_7137]

Kelly you are superb 🎉 great service along with Chris and Austin... Thank you Acyuta... great video 🎉🙏👍

[@gattonelcielo]

@@Ya_Love Good Question. I´m born at lat 65. 25th of june, almost all use Placidus "up here". I am mixing. And I am scratching my head sometimes when some of the houses are really small, or really big in some birth charts. If that happens I use WSH or Equal house to get some order...

[@Ya_Love]

@@gattonelcielo - same thing here. Looking back upon my own life I can filter-out what house is correct and what is not. It still does not help to go all in when you look for example at the transits coming up for the next year, or so. I consider two houses then and all one can do is to observe how things really play out.

[@More2Vida]

Kelly hit the spot with that “find ways to explain what we’re doing technically in a non technical way” definitely one of the most difficult things to figure out when beginning.

[@achyleftistwitch]

Love hearing Kelly Surtees! This is so informative and presented in such an excellent way

[@ellezdoonan3520]

Really wonderful talk. I appreciate Kelly's terminologies. I found moments of great clarity, for instance, hearing her describe how a planet functions or has various troubles functioning when faced with challenges of various kinds or aided by different supports, and in what areas of life the challenges or benefits manifest.

[@awakeningtobehuman]

Kelly is one of the very, very best out there. Brilliant teacher!

[@Law_And_Society]

It isn't easy to do what you do. Not one bit. I have been studying astrology through videos from you & a few others including Kelly & her crazy/happy/brilliant trio and just learning & applying that to my own chart is confounding. To do that for others & regularly is immensely intense.

[@butterflybreath75]

If you would like to get more formal training in Hellenistic astrology, Heather Eland/Cosmic Academy of Astrology has a good course. I am just finishing it up and it really has helped me to understand what Kelly is talking about for the most part. I would be interested to know how Heather's program is regarded by others into traditional Hellenistic astrology.

[@inesbernardes8321]

Kelly, I loved your presentation! Super useful, practical! Congratulations!! And the enthusiasm in your voice sounds beautifully.

[@dianavalenzuela7672]

thank you, Kelly and Adam, for this wonderful talk!! So precious content and knowledge!! Thank you very much!!

[@LifeinGlow]

Great workshop! It is always quite easy to learn from Kelly and a good brush up with examples. Thank you!

[@Flauras]

Wow! Loved this. I found Kelly's way of articulating the concepts succinct and incredibly helpful. Thank you 🌈💖🌺xx

[@brisay1844]

Amazing knowledge and so kind of you to share with us💕💕 This is the best lecture I’ve stumbled upon. I wish you were taking new clients. Many people need the positive guidance you seem to offer. Like a well skilled physician, you seem to mitigate the negative by accentuating the positive. With so much uncertainty, your delineations infuse your audience with a bit of optimism that is sometimes a little difficult to muster since the great reset. I am amazed by your knowledge and blessed by your willingness to share it. You are awesome🤗🥰🤗

[@jeniwood9927]

This was an amazing workshop. I learned so many useful tidbits from this and Kelly is such a great teacher

[@jean-louislanquetin535]

Très intéressant car Kelly Surtees nous donne ses vues principales sur les points à retenir sur le thème selon son approche. En plus sympathique. J ai beaucoup apprécié. Merci. Y a t il eu depuis un apport sur so approche des planètes combustes. Merci.

[@easternsecrecy9777]

Amazing video! I learned loads of new things. Took copious notes. Thank you!

[@JustinPlunkett7]

Loved the Emma Watson example - especially since the Venus is not only separating from a beneficial aspect to Jupiter, but also applying to the Moon in Sag 4H and Mercury in Taurus 9H! Makes so much sense!

[@marhabrine4516]

Great guest! Might be important to point out that Mars is not just in it's Fall in Cancer due to default. The planet of war isn't at home in the sign of nesting and nurturing. It's more helpful to people with Mars in Cancer if you help them identify whether they are prone to passive aggression or not and to encourage keeping it in check.

[@jennifermollett5878]

Loved this podcast . Thank you !

[@bella-pt6ow]

Brilliant presentation Kelly,so clear and informative. Thankyou very much and Thankyou Adam too.

[@Ya_Love]

Thanks Kelly, this was very helpful. I picked up when you said that you're more concerned about a planet when it stations 'direct' rather than when it is in retrograde motion, which does make sense. Now, I just discovered that my True Nodes stationed Direct when I was born. Does this hold any significance in regards to the nodes as well? .... and if so what type of significance? ... after all the nodes 'set the stage' for ones life. Does this mean one can see life, or even ones own life clearer? ... kinda like being able to see things from a birds-eye-perspective, honing in?

[@Randomgardenandguitar]

This is such a blessing, thank you! Greatful for this and I will definitely check out whatever classes you have available!

[@MadamAlgol]

This really pieces together everything! Thank you!

[@Mary-hz2qb]

Wow this was really great! I learned so much. Thank you both

[@asisdelton]

Thank You Adam & Kelly!!!

[@RadioPsychicAstrologyByPepper]

Only just discovered Nitelite Astrology and I love it so far! 🔮🐈🐈🐈‍⬛💖-Pepper

[@VJ_7137]

Superb session 🔥👍 thank you Adam & Kelly🙏

[@CharpyTheHedgehog]

Brilliant! I seem to have three special signatures in my chart- two good, one bad. Moon in Cancer (dignified) in the 10th (angular) and ruling the Midheaven. Jupiter (in-sect benefic) conjunct my Ascendant (angular). But then Mars (out-of-sect malefic) in the 12th House....

[@butterflybreath75]

Question about the MC vs the 10th house. When we are looking at the strong points and the "angular houses," in whole sign house system sometimes the MC is found outside of the 10th. So then, does the house where the MC is found take on angular characteristics and become more prominent and strong, or does the 10th house remain angular despite the MC being in the 9th or 11th?

[@elenipapadimitriou7486]

The house of the MC, becomes also angular all together with the tenth.

[@margaretspillers1244]

Wonderful information!! Thank you.

[@qyqyli100]

Great video by Kelly. I noted an error on Emma Watson's birth date. Per Astro databank, it was 15 Apr 1990, not 14 Apr 1990 as in the chart on the PPT. The moon position will change to conjunct IC. The other planets remain in similar position.

[@moonlitme]

Just came across this...very helpful and informative!

[@MsBela4]

I have a question about relocated charts. So my birth chart where I was originally born in Poland is a day time chart. But now living in Canada MST I have a night chart. How does this change...or does this change, my rulerships and potential signatures? Essentially I’m wondering if my natal chart has more weight regardless of where I live.

[@margorowe9052]

I was wondering the same..born in Chicago but lived in 15 cities..

[@morriganwitch]

I have an unaspected Sun , a very traumatising 12 th house Ascendent complete with Pluto and the Moon that I ve learnt first to laugh at it and then live with it xxx

[@SusanHopkinson]

There’s a misunderstanding here - the ascendant is always either the beginning of the first house (Placidus, etc) or within the first house (whole sign etc). It’s not possible to be in 12th house.

[@morriganwitch]

Susan Hopkinson sorry that was written wrongly , it meant to read “ I have an un Unaspected Sun , I have a twelfth house Pluto conjunct my 12 th house Moon , the moon is in Leo 28 deg conjunct my 2 degree Virgo Pluto both of which conjunct my 4 degree Virgo Ascendent ‘ I guess I was tired writing this . It’s traumatic , I subconsciously Attract enemies out of nowhere yet I’m An ok person guess I just shake folk up Just by being me xxx

[@mayateola4732]

A wonderful workshop!

[@crispydyslexic6628]

1:06:02 1:14:17 2:03:57

[@lifecanbefun_]

What would you say on person being Leo rising, born at the winters evening (night chart) with Sun (chart ruler) in the 6th house in Capricorn, trining the MC. On the same page with Cancer in Moon in 12th house? Because after listening to that lecture I found it more confusing. Thank you!

[@aprilhelmer9613]

Question... what time frame are we considering day and night? I was born 7:14 p.m so when sun is basically setting.. thank you! And this video has been extremely helpful in my chart studies :)

[@solanasally3618]

I have same question. I was born after midnight but clock says A.M.

[@rayp-w5930]

@@solanasally3618 If you were born before sunrise, but after midnight it is a night chart.The difficult areas to determine are births at or near sunrise and sunset.

[@solanasally3618]

@@rayp-w5930 Thank you for clarifying it for me.

[@BunnyWren11]

Kelly said most 12th house themes are mental, but Is it possible to have a malefic Mars there in a day chart and have physical issues ultimately connected to those mental issues perhaps?

[@nativefloridanerd]

Thanks!

[@LeilasMirror]

Wonder if an exalted Venus combust would be protected from combustion like a traditional ruler would be

[@twofishbluefish]

Ruler of Aqua AC - Saturn - Ruler of MC - Venus both in Aries conjunct the IC - in a night chart....I've always thought these 2 held the most power but not in the most positive way.

[@nicpatean5946]

Combust moon in Cancer. Ride the chariot!!! 😋💗

[@amberspicks547]

Why does it show Saturn in detriment in Leo, but as “extra” in fire signs?

[@danyshudler9090]

A conjunction to the north node is a good thing? What is your reasoning behind this claim?

[@margorowe9052]

Leo mars conjunct north node..feel it makes me pushy.

[@amberspicks547]

It shows Saturn in detriment in Leo, but also extra in fire… please help me understand what that means and how to interpret it. I have Saturn in Leo 12th house in a day chart.

[@michaelically7893]

In that first chart Jupiter in Leo has mutual reception with Sun in Sag

[@tamelashafer8852]

I have Mars in ♋️in the 6th with Scorpio MC as an ♒️Asc ♒️☀️♒️Mercury ~Jupiter & the 🌙 ♊️ South Node♈️ North ♎️ Venus ♓️Saturn ♌️ Chiron ♉️ I am definitely feeling a building relationship with Mars... for sure... especially since 12-21-2020

[@Andrea45607]

SO good. 👍👍

[@rogerbob5594]

Thank you for sharing this. What happens if you have venus jupiter saturn conjunction in 2nd house in Libra for night chart? And then no other major aspects to those 3 planets.... just curious. That's not the most significant aspect in my chart though. Got AC/MC ruler (Mercury retro) combust and it is sextile the Moon (conjunct AC). And then Moon/AC square Mars (Mars on IC). Mars opposite MC.

[@Ya_Love]

Interesting about when a planet is combust. Makes me wonder how this plays out when the Sun is already moving away from that planet. Could this be that right before birth there was an issue in that regard depending upon the planet that was/is affected by the Sun? What if it's not a planet that is safe from combustion in its own sign but for example Venus in detriment in SCO in the 5th (her assigned house as per your chart Kelly) and the Sun which by house rulers (ARI as the Asc) which makes the Sun the 5th house ruler placement in general, so the Sun has moved on about 2deg to 3deg. passed her already? ... which actually translates this combustion to about two to three days before birth. How badly is Venus affected here, given the fact that she's already in detriment in SCO? Another question would be in regards to the traditional house-rulers vs. those assigned to the wheel at the beginning of this documentation, where Mercury rules the 1st house, the Moon the 3rd, Venus the 5th and so forth. What are these ruler-ships based upon? And what happens to those houses in your chart-assignment that do not have a ruler in it? Oh, in Maya Angelou's Chart I noticed that her Jupiter is conj. her Sun in the 9th, which by regular assignment Jupiter rules the 9th because of SAG, while in your lay-out it's the house where the Sun finds its joy as well! :-) In regards to Emma Watson, her Mercury also is conj. her Part of Fortune, which also is an additional aspect for her wealth in my seeing, because Mercury is her chart-ruler. Then Jupiter is exalted in Cancer while trining her exalted Venus in Pisces, and since this Mercury/Part of Fortune conj. is in sextile by house to both of the other two houses this truly makes for great significance. This trine, in my seeing, looks like it worked out as to come into full effect due to correct partnerships, correct choice of career in a correct environment for her and results in 'a wish fulfilled' :-) I love following along with your explanations, Kelly. Thanks for such vast amount of wonderful information.

[@jonathanjames9435]

When you say the ruler of the MC do you mean traditional angular 10th house or what we house the MC falls in? My MC is in my 11th house of Sagittarius but my 10th house is scorpio so do I use Jupiter or mars/Pluto as the dominant planets alongside Saturn the ruler of my ascendant? Thank you 😊

[@erikm8372]

I’d say Jupiter for the ruler of the MC. I have Leo moon, conjunct my MC in the tenth house. So I use the sun...? Even I am confused. Lol. Opposing my MC, in the fourth house, i have my sun, mercury, venus and jupiter!

[@jeanmiller1023]

So, I was born at 7:34pm during daylight savings time in June, which is technically night, but still light. Also, my Saturn combust my sun within 2 degrees.

[@claudiahowell9508]

Excellent.

[@Here_Today_]

What if the ruling planet of the asc is combust? Venus 3 degrees from the sun, in Leo, 11h.

[@jean-louislanquetin535]

Qualités d enseignantes très humaine.!

[@MagikForTheMAsses]

Wonderful!!

[@nativefloridanerd]

Good gosh. That Cancerian ♋️ guilt trip worked on this ♋️!

[@nativefloridanerd]

Feels good to invest in a community that invests in itself!

[@dldudley61]

is the any way to appease Saturn for a night chart like (keep your friends close but your enemies closer) be more respectful to your elder and be more caring and helpful to the handicapped

[@emilyholter6115]

there’s a concept called “planetary remediation” that is pretty much exactly what you asked for in your comment! :)

[@dldudley61]

@@emilyholter6115 Thank can you tell me where I get more information on this

[@danyshudler9090]

The reason Mars is in its fall in Cancer is because Mars is direct one pointed intelect which acts on instinct as a good soldier will and cancer makes it overly emotional and kills the instinctive bold active nature of Mars. Just imagine a soldier on the battle field feeling conflicted about why he has to fight, he wouldn't last too long in the battle field.

[@teatime009]

Mars in Cancer can have extreme anger issues. Kelly covered it quickly but didn't stay on the point long... it has more to do with how Cancer (opposite) Capricorn must be easy to heat up, and not "deep" waters like Scorpio, which is the strategic Mars. It is bad for us in the way that it can boil our water quickly. In a positive aspect, it can make for a great musician. It attacks piano keys and notes, lol. Cancer is also very instinctive ( you may have actually meant "impulsive"), but the instincts are self protection from outside pressures, yet it's an attacking type planet. We can't attack people when we feel threatened, it's psycho, lol. Anyway, those are a couple of the reasons, and to pin those delineations on an original source principle, remember that Capricorn is exactly opposite, and it's the cold place that exalts Mars. It's not that Mars is cold in Cancer, I think it's that it easily heats Cancer waters.

[@tinaturley2500]

LOVE this😍😘

[@construxi]

I'm born at daytime and have jupiter mars conjunktion in 2. house in scorpio

[@Natalia_Belenkaya]

I've never had a satisfying answer to why I've never been married with unafflicted Jupiter in Pisces in 7th )

[@tonyoconnell6012]

Have you looked at the other house systems?... 1. It may not be in the 7th under a modern house system. 2. Look at the planet that rules the 7th house..where is it and how well does it function? 3. Consider the sect.. is it a day chart or night chart?... Jupiter being a day planet it prefers to be in the same hemisphere as the Sun 4. Jupiter prefers Sagittarius to Pisces. With Jupiter in Pisces you have a day/masculine planet in a night/femine sign

[@Natalia_Belenkaya]

@@tonyoconnell6012 I'm a Virgo rising, mine is a night chart, Jupiter is in 18th degree no matter how you look at it, so let's say ruler of the 7th at home manifests itself as meaningful relationships with teachers in my life, rather then a partnership ) Also, I was relocated to a different latitude at the time of the first Saturn opposition, so the chart might have changed.

[@tonyoconnell6012]

@@Natalia_Belenkaya Thanks for your reply. Also pay attention to Venus as it's the exaltation ruler of Pisces. And the cusp of the 7th house by modern...is it still in Pisces?

[@Natalia_Belenkaya]

@@tonyoconnell6012 yeah, well, Venus is in 6th in Aquarius, so I guess it's afflicted by Saturn. As for modern or not - I'm afraid I don't quite get it, as my 7th starts in 3 degree of Pisces no matter how you look at it.

[@arzalem841]

love it!

[@MsRoosmarii]

Bad audio but good video.

[@fethk]

3.14.22

[@brandoncallaway8835]

Shes a sweetheart isn't she? Makes me wanna go get a libra girlfriend 😄....

[@OTR353]

Jupiter 10th house aries

[@Justyn219]

#138

[@1rocknroy]

It's 2021 and all those local announcements from 2018 in an over 2 hour video is such a put off.