Nightmare in Suburbia: 12 Days of Christmas - S5E2 The FULL Documentary | A True Story

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@paulabrown6840
@paulabrown6840 Жыл бұрын
The couple Patricia cleaned for were truly lovely. The cared so much for her. May she Rest In Peace. 😔🙏
@ileanamuntean7338
@ileanamuntean7338 Жыл бұрын
It's also very hard to get a good, reliable cleaner.
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt Жыл бұрын
Yes glad they backed her up when Simons made that claim on Pat having dementia with them being GPS they knew all the signs of an illness like that Xxxx
@helengormlie966
@helengormlie966 Жыл бұрын
Why do people blame the daughter?? Pat was clearly used to being very independent and capable. That bloke fooled many people.
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 Жыл бұрын
Old geezer ran like duracel bunny on some not dying batteries. Like where did he get all that energy in his age? Also he had so nice partner in Pat - with money, responsible, working so he would have own time, what else did he need? I think he just wanted to murder someone before he died. There was no reason otherwise
@ileanamuntean7338
@ileanamuntean7338 Жыл бұрын
@@bambinaforever1402 He needed the money but not what came with it.
@fremontpathfinder8463
@fremontpathfinder8463 Жыл бұрын
Because it is clear her mom was having issues and she didn't check on her physically
@richardwait1206
@richardwait1206 Жыл бұрын
This daughter who didn’t even bother to call her mom on Xmas day or immediately call the police after Chris said he had dropped her off at Milton station & that alone was unusual she has to live with that
@richardwait1206
@richardwait1206 Жыл бұрын
So her daughter had not spoken to her mother over Xmas at all wow
@shapiro9640
@shapiro9640 Жыл бұрын
This case really turned my stomach. Unbelievable how someone so close could be such a force of evil. Poor Pat.
@janetch7384
@janetch7384 Жыл бұрын
it's so easy to be deceived when you are alone, it seems, have seen a number of these types of murders
@PetroicaRodinogaster264
@PetroicaRodinogaster264 Жыл бұрын
@@janetch7384 You cannot generalise. I have been alone for 25 yrs and I can tell you, I trust no one. The older I get the less I trust.
@Suzyfromtheblock
@Suzyfromtheblock Жыл бұрын
He was a horrible stinking controller, poor Pat if only
@richardwait1206
@richardwait1206 Жыл бұрын
@@PetroicaRodinogaster264that is so sad please find help there are plenty of support groups
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt Жыл бұрын
It goes to show you can never know someone too well and sadly we are sometimes ( I’m not suggesting Pat was naive or anything like that) b quite trusting so there are times we let certain people in our lives almost without prompt for ( if not all) of us we want to ( especially when we’re growing up) make new friends maybe meet a future partner ( spouse) and sometimes we maybe a bit gullible and we unwittingly let our guard down and want to feel part of a community and meet new people etc Xx
@annamarielewis7078
@annamarielewis7078 Жыл бұрын
One would think that by age 76, one would be past the murdering stage. I’m 75 and hoping very much to avoid being murdered.
@carolegreen9938
@carolegreen9938 Жыл бұрын
Hell, me too {76} 😁
@terryyakamoto3488
@terryyakamoto3488 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who gets murdered is described as a lovely, well liked person. My strategy to avoid being murdered is to be horrible, it's worked so far
@lululemonpies
@lululemonpies 11 ай бұрын
​@@terryyakamoto3488😅
@SPDATA1
@SPDATA1 11 ай бұрын
❤❤
@georginasmith1820
@georginasmith1820 11 ай бұрын
Think we're all trying to avoid being murdered!
@l.c838
@l.c838 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like Pat had been caught up in a relationship with a malignant narsassist. They tend to manipulate and isolate their victims and use them for their own means. RIP Pat ❤
@davidjma7226
@davidjma7226 Жыл бұрын
Seems like everyone is a 'narcissist' these days......
@juliennedavies-ody1756
@juliennedavies-ody1756 Жыл бұрын
@@davidjma7226 I think the most overused word of the time!
@davidjma7226
@davidjma7226 Жыл бұрын
@@juliennedavies-ody1756 Along with the word 'vile' !!
@mrsmallpinky9041
@mrsmallpinky9041 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it the case that any type of person with NPD - a Narcissist can be malignant.... so there is actually no such thing as a malignant narcissist - as it is with covert and overt behaviour - no such thing as a covert or overt narcissist only a person with NPD being covert or overt.
@calgal5752
@calgal5752 Жыл бұрын
@@juliennedavies-ody1756 My comment exactly!
@joanannewallace
@joanannewallace Жыл бұрын
It beats me why Pat left her money and house to the evil Chris. Most loving parents leave to the children and grandchildren. How all these women fell for him is beyond comprehension.
@veronicawilson1048
@veronicawilson1048 Жыл бұрын
He most liked got her to do it Selling the house to her 😮 Knowi v ge would get it sn getti v money so obvious and sadly pathetic
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt Жыл бұрын
Chris proberley guilt conjolied her into it? He played on her vunablities Xx
@millwallholdings
@millwallholdings Жыл бұрын
Ref all these women He may have been good in the sack and made them laugh
@unHingedom
@unHingedom Жыл бұрын
Honestly I was really shocked, I hope they checked the authenticity of that will cz no loving mother would do that when she has children & grandchildren.
@theoryofpersonality1420
@theoryofpersonality1420 8 ай бұрын
I don't believe she did. I believe it's a fraud.
@lisahinton9682
@lisahinton9682 Жыл бұрын
The people Pat cleaned for clearly cared very much for her. This was so sad, this case. May her family and friends have peace.
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt Жыл бұрын
They really did they ( apart from being their employee) were her friends and she ( I know she was a reasonably private person) could ( do a small degree) confide in them it’s just a shame she couldn’t find her ( other than when she wrote in her diaries about her thoughts and what she did on a daily basis) voice or the courage to speak about the issues between her and Chris and the fact she denied he hit her Xx
@touringthecitywalking9209
@touringthecitywalking9209 Жыл бұрын
This chilling true murder story is a stark reminder of the darkness that can lurk behind seemingly friendly faces. Patricia Goodband's trust in her business partner and friend, who she welcomed into her home and entrusted with her assets, led to a horrifying betrayal. The greed-driven act of taking her life to gain access to her valuable property and cash is truly disturbing. May this video serve as a cautionary tale about the importance of being cautious in our relationships and safeguarding our well-being. Let's remember Patricia and thank the authorities for doing the best job to catch the cold-blooded killer and let him taste the correct justice.
@jeangemmel7895
@jeangemmel7895 Жыл бұрын
RIP Patricia, I get the feeling you were hurt by certain people and it made you 'singular' to avoid being hurt any more! I just keep thinking over and over again, do we ever really know anyone, or is it only the 'me' they let us know? I think there were underlying issues between this lady and her daughter as the daughter seemed to be unmoved talking about her dead, murdered dead mother. When your children grow up I don't understand why they don't go home to see their parent/s. Lord please save me from no one caring enough about me as I'm already feeling it as visits get longer and longer in between each one and I don't understand why!
@bjbrown
@bjbrown Жыл бұрын
If you aren't close to your family make sure that you have a social network whether it is through church or a club of some kind. It's very important to maintain contact with others as we age.
@jujulionesselsa1416
@jujulionesselsa1416 Жыл бұрын
It's all about sheer greed
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 Жыл бұрын
I m in bad relationship with my mother, always was. That was a lesson for me with my own children - never criticize them and filter what u say. If they are your children does not mean your words do not hurt them.
@stephanielloyd4053
@stephanielloyd4053 Жыл бұрын
There are sometimes reasons children are estranged from mothers. My husband hasn't had contact with his mother now for nearly 4 years, she left him when he was 4, she is very materialistic, asked us when I was pregnant with our first sone if we'd thought about an abortion! I could go on, when our son was born my husband realised what she'd walked out on and he couldnt get over it. He says, I just imagine what our boys would be like if you walked out, and it destroys him. Some scars don't heal.
@swatt2802
@swatt2802 9 ай бұрын
Yes mom
@Periwinkleblue.
@Periwinkleblue. Жыл бұрын
How terribly heartbreaking. Initially I thought maybe Pat knew she was in the early stages of Alzheimers or brain cancer bc of her mood changes, withdrawal from friends/family and changes to her will and that perhaps she'd asked her friend Chris to help her compassionately end her own life. But clearly Chris was a horrible monster pulling a long con. Thankfully the detectives were diligent in their investigation.
@judedonnelly4100
@judedonnelly4100 Жыл бұрын
THERE'S NOOOOO WAY HE'S 63 !!!!!! HE HAS TO BE IN HIS 70'S IF NOT MORE !!!!!!
@crissaconway142
@crissaconway142 Жыл бұрын
He’s 80+ 85 I’ll say.
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Жыл бұрын
You do know, don’t you, that he’s an actor and this is a reconstruction?
@angelam886
@angelam886 Жыл бұрын
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree not the mug shot at the end though. So they’re correct. He looks older.
@evaflowervines9520
@evaflowervines9520 Жыл бұрын
@@angelam886 that's what womanising does!
@judedonnelly4100
@judedonnelly4100 Жыл бұрын
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree" You don't say " !! 🙄
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, the daughter had been concerned and tried to help Pat and Pat was so in love with this vile man that she pushed her daughter away. Maybe Pat felt like people thought she was mentally unstable and became more isolated. Plus, narcissist encourage family problems so he would be telling Pat negative things about the daughter.....probably telling her..."im the only one who understands you and wants you, everyone else thinks your crazy and just want your money " you hear something enough, you believe it
@Babyboffa2018
@Babyboffa2018 Жыл бұрын
How did he possibly think he could get away with this? Surely he must have realised people would start looking for Pat? Did he honestly think they would just accept she’d disappeared for good?
@Liitebulb
@Liitebulb Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's the first crime
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 Жыл бұрын
Yes, if he claimed she had dementia she would just forget who she was. That happens in real life. Also if a person had a stroke they might lose memory
@mitchand9
@mitchand9 Жыл бұрын
Because sadly there are so many people that plan murders and really do get away with it.
@paulletteadams7926
@paulletteadams7926 Жыл бұрын
This isn't his 1st time being a scheming, scandalous evil person. That's why he's so comfortable repeating this process.
@BMW7series251
@BMW7series251 Жыл бұрын
A very sad case. RIP Pat. Seems strange to me that with all that money she got a cleaning job!?
@kareenwatson6084
@kareenwatson6084 Жыл бұрын
Seems like Pat and her daughter did not have a good relationship to want to leave your wealth to a man who was not committed to or loved you instead of your child or relatives. Pat's reclusive nature and love of privacy cost her dearly. Poor Jennifer allowed herself to get caught in Chris' wen.
@jaijai5250
@jaijai5250 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Why would you leave your house and savings to a man, when you have a daughter and grandchildren. They clearly didn’t have a close relationship.
@Ingrid922
@Ingrid922 Жыл бұрын
@@jaijai5250 Pehaps that was more his doing.
@Ingrid922
@Ingrid922 Жыл бұрын
I think that was his plan. Not hers.
@caxmc8520
@caxmc8520 Жыл бұрын
It seems like she push the daughter away from her because she didn’t want people in her life. Mother and daughter only talking once a month clearly tells you they don’t have a relationship.
@theoryofpersonality1420
@theoryofpersonality1420 8 ай бұрын
Pat being abused explains both.
@brendaeaster8874
@brendaeaster8874 Жыл бұрын
Older women appear to be very vulnerable to these types of crimes. Driven by loneliness, loyalty and other emotions, they find themselves in precarious situations. Communication is imperative, and staying close to family. Pat should have taken in a couple of boarders. Also, do NOT lend anyone money! This old coot was acting like he was 30, carrying on with other women. The domestic violence tweaked their relationship to his favor, so he had control over Pat. Still, intervention and communication is so necessary!!
@vanessakelly5993
@vanessakelly5993 Жыл бұрын
Such a sad story but glad he was caught & put away…….too many people are used 😢
@gbacrila
@gbacrila Жыл бұрын
Perhaps she was private but she apparently was quite vulnerable as well. So sad😢!
@Liitebulb
@Liitebulb Жыл бұрын
Actually she was very sharp, the opposite of vulnerable. Bur precisely because of this she probably would have never told anyone what was going on. I wouldn't
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Жыл бұрын
As an older widow. We are much more vulnerable to narcissist as, there aren't enough older men and our kids have their own children, jobs and lives. Most of our friends are dead and we get lonely. The key is....always have a couple friends or close family and communicate honestly with them regularly. Tell those closest to you if someone is spending your money, lives in your house or is controlling. Don't be ashamed or embarrassed. Never EVER let anyone know you have money or insurance they can't get.
@Liitebulb
@Liitebulb Жыл бұрын
Who else thinks this was not the man's first time? I suspect there are other d€ad bodies in his wake
@8888-9
@8888-9 Жыл бұрын
From personal experiences I would reject Narcissism as Chris' personality disorder. He lived & behaved as a psychopath. His triple secret lives. Shows calculated deceit. His easy manipulations of both the other man and Pat and her daughter. Narcissists seek status and admiration also deceitful and manipulative. Generally not on the same level as psychopaths. These can kill. Narcissists want to destroy your spirit and mind. Pat really had only a small handful of really concerned interested friends. I'm very glad Chris was caught. They usually believe they outsmart everyone
@rio-wi1el
@rio-wi1el Жыл бұрын
Covert Narcissists fit the same profile as this evil man, all psychopaths/sociopaths are narcissists,but not all narcissists are sociopaths/psychopaths
@ms.chrisie8040
@ms.chrisie8040 Жыл бұрын
Truly messed up individual. I pray some kind of comfort for Pats family as I'm a stranger & never met Pat I can say the Lady sure had some kind of work ethics, still going strong at 78 when most of us retire at 63 that alone speaks volumes maybe the family can draw a little strength from that I know mine would. Heartfelt condolences to each member. So very sad to have worked your whole life long then have it snatched up by such a coward. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🏻🕊️🕊️🕊️
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Жыл бұрын
Sociopaths are narcissist as well...the 2 go together. Look at the criteria they both have. According to Dr Grande, Dr Ramani and other renound psychologist, ALL Sociopaths are narcissist but, not al narcissist are Sociopaths. Similar, All bipolar have depression but not all with depression are bipolar
@123UpNorth321
@123UpNorth321 Жыл бұрын
I can't understand how Family members only talk to eachother once a month...I am almost 38 and I talk to my mum daily, she lives in another country and I am always eager to know how she is doing. And so is she the other way round.
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 Жыл бұрын
Not all people are like u. That is quite stupid to expect them to be
@judibiggerstaff8054
@judibiggerstaff8054 Жыл бұрын
Co-dependent.
@dementedopossum8148
@dementedopossum8148 Жыл бұрын
I haven't spoken to my mother since 1993, don't even know or care if she's still around.
@moominmay
@moominmay Жыл бұрын
@@Kitty_Bexactly! People are so naive making this comment. I tried for over 40 years to connect with my mother but she just doesn’t care to know whilst doting on my sister and her children. It is what it is so it’s often not for lack of trying on a child’s part but not all parents are loving to all their children!
@Blonde_Somnambulist
@Blonde_Somnambulist Жыл бұрын
That's too intrusive !
@margaritaescoto3500
@margaritaescoto3500 Жыл бұрын
So sad for all the people who trusted him. A liar, womanizer and murderer.. and no one seemed to figure it out on time… RIP lovely Pat
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 Жыл бұрын
And he was in his 70. Like how much energy did he have for all of that?
@caxmc8520
@caxmc8520 Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t in his 70s he was 63. 13 years younger than her
@tarantulamum4322
@tarantulamum4322 Жыл бұрын
I know if my mum would say "lisa i dont want you to visit anymore" ( knowing I see my mum twice a week to take her shopping) id 100% being questioning her as to why not. Alarm bells would start to ring extremely loud for me and not doubt my brother and sister
@manwithapan9481
@manwithapan9481 Жыл бұрын
turns out only phoning your mum once a month will get you removed from the will...what a surprise.
@fluffgirl1000
@fluffgirl1000 Жыл бұрын
You would think that in your old age you would be safe to have an old man as a friend and partner..😢hard to believe that he had relations with 3 women at his age…
@RinpochesRose
@RinpochesRose Жыл бұрын
Wait till you are 63 !
@dimitrageorgiadi5087
@dimitrageorgiadi5087 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, quite the casa ova Chris is. Don't see how, but just sayin
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
He’s had 60years to hone his skills. HE’s A NARCISSIST. Wise up THE DEVIL HIMSELF. Subtle threats isolation demeaning comments fear worry all your fault no- one will believe you. They are psychological murderers too. The Bible says that the Devil satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. This man Killed her - stole from her and destroyed her life. The daughter enjoyed seeing her mother suffer. No human feelings no compassion sympathy understanding anger at what he did. She’s just as guilty!!!
@katherine9109
@katherine9109 Ай бұрын
ha! look what Viagra hath wrought..!!! I feel nauseous.
@katherine9109
@katherine9109 Ай бұрын
women are never, ever safe. elderly women are being raped in high numbers these days! and rapidly growing higher... be wary. be very wary.
@Thanasis_Koligliatis
@Thanasis_Koligliatis Жыл бұрын
32:22 Can you really imagine that this man has a wife and three girlfriend's simultaneously?
@janetch7384
@janetch7384 Жыл бұрын
people will put up with anything to not be alone
@Liitebulb
@Liitebulb Жыл бұрын
It's easy to get in to a relationship. Quality Has nothing to do with it
@Thanasis_Koligliatis
@Thanasis_Koligliatis Жыл бұрын
@@Liitebulb Yes, that's so true
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
Yes he’s a narcissist
@Ariadne76-k3d
@Ariadne76-k3d Жыл бұрын
No. He's hideous!
@theresarasche3173
@theresarasche3173 Жыл бұрын
Boy the actor who played Chris was handsome and the real Chris was a disheveled man! I don’t know how anyone fell for him🙄🤔🫤 Rest in peace Pat😢🙏❤️🙏❤️
@cypruscats8450
@cypruscats8450 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand though. He buried her so well and spun the story that she had gone off and disappeared. I understand that you are not allowed to start disposing of assets without a death certificate. And in missing person cases a death certificate can't be issued for 7 years. Yet he was talking about immediately moving to Sandbanks presumably with the £800,000 he would inherit. If the police hadn't made such an effort she never would have been found in which case he would have had a long wait! Does that make sense?
@tammyshirks6948
@tammyshirks6948 Жыл бұрын
This is terribly sad.. Her own daughter didn't seem to be upset over her mother.. It maybe because they wasn't that close special bond.. So sad the way they found her dead.. 😢
@gillmiller3702
@gillmiller3702 Жыл бұрын
Do you want her to break down in tears ? People show their emotions differently.
@traciemarsh1611
@traciemarsh1611 Жыл бұрын
no she didnt and talking about it she was smiling
@traciemarsh1611
@traciemarsh1611 Жыл бұрын
@@gillmiller3702 they dont smile when they are talking about being told their family member has been found and has died though
@kskssxoxskskss2189
@kskssxoxskskss2189 Жыл бұрын
Stiff upper lip. Given the reserved character of her mother, no surprise she has it, too.
@SeaStarrs
@SeaStarrs 9 ай бұрын
Probably because she gets the money now
@wombatlittle1
@wombatlittle1 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't the doctor question why Pat at 76 wanted a part time cleaning job? Seems very odd.
@moominmay
@moominmay Жыл бұрын
Because he’s respectful and not nosey good grief! 🙄
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt
@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt 6 ай бұрын
Because he respected her privacy and Pat became friends with him and his wife
@bearcat1283
@bearcat1283 Жыл бұрын
She had good savings and probably a pension and was still working two jobs at 76?
@wombatlittle1
@wombatlittle1 Жыл бұрын
Yes at 76😮
@martinblack781
@martinblack781 Жыл бұрын
Some folks can't sit around and be idle in retirement. Don't like watching telly or knitting. They have to have something to do with their time.
@bearcat1283
@bearcat1283 Жыл бұрын
@@martinblack781 Working is not the only way you can stay active fgs. Retirement should be the time when you can do things you couldn't do before because of work esp when you're still healthy and have money. Can't see why she wanted to scrub floors instead of going on holidays etc
@muddywaters538
@muddywaters538 8 ай бұрын
They don't know what else to do
@marcy3127
@marcy3127 9 ай бұрын
Its creepy how these older manipulative guys attach themselves to women who are on their own. So sorry for the loss of your mum.
@cameronjohnston3186
@cameronjohnston3186 Жыл бұрын
There’s more warmth and emotion in a blast freezer than there was in Pat’s daughter Sam. Talk about chilling
@RinpochesRose
@RinpochesRose Жыл бұрын
Thought she was calm. No need for hysteria is there. That’s a Hollywood Fiction
@kittywitty6507
@kittywitty6507 Жыл бұрын
She seemed traumatised to me.
@shingj4007
@shingj4007 Жыл бұрын
She always has a grin on her face when she was talking, like she is really pleasantly amused by her mother's tragedy.
@Sabina_B17
@Sabina_B17 Жыл бұрын
Agreed...It was so weird.
@keepitsimple4629
@keepitsimple4629 Жыл бұрын
Cameron Johnston, oh, I agree. I noticed she was smiling when talking about her mother's death. Not just on one occasion, but all.
@Auntie-Sara
@Auntie-Sara Жыл бұрын
180,000 pounds is just under a quarter million US dollars, a considerable sum to the average person but certainly not the value of a kind woman's life. I was surprised to hear that her daughter spoke to her mom only once a month and was fine being told not to come over. We of course are all different but I feel a sadness at what feels like a comfortable disinterest on the daughter's part. May those whose lives were taken from them be greatly blessed with an afterlife of beauty and peace beyond imagination. Loving hugs from my soul to theirs 🤗🥰🕊
@margwalker6606
@margwalker6606 Жыл бұрын
This only goes to show, that we really do not know people. Poor lady. I hope Chris lives a very very long life in hail.
@pwandld50
@pwandld50 Жыл бұрын
That's because most people don't pay attention to the numerous red flags that pop up. They don't listen to their intuition & give the benefit of the doubt. These are the types of people that are targeted.
@moirahill6397
@moirahill6397 Жыл бұрын
It beats me how these evil murdering narcissists think they're going to get away with it. They think they're smarter than the police but they are just ridiculous. Rest in peace, Pat. 🙏 ❤
@i.p.956
@i.p.956 Жыл бұрын
I don't know people's relationships but the daughter seems a bit distant. My mum lived more than 3000 miles from me in another country, and we spoke daily, every single day regardless. If my mum said I shouldn't visit, I would push very hard to know what's the problem. If my mum went on a random train journey without telling anyone, I wouldn't wait until tomorrow, I'd be there looking for her instantly.
@catgladwell5684
@catgladwell5684 Жыл бұрын
Her mother probably set the standard of frequency of communication. They may have loved each other in their own way, which is not the same as everybody's.
@jaijai5250
@jaijai5250 Жыл бұрын
They probably weren’t very close. The mother chose to leave the house and savings to her business partner, rather than her daughter and grandchildren. I think that’s very odd and strange.
@Ingrid922
@Ingrid922 Жыл бұрын
@@jaijai5250 He was manipulating her. She was not choosing to act the way she was..
@bijanka
@bijanka Жыл бұрын
I think you are discounting too much that the mother told her repeatedly to mind her business and not bother her when she had not kept in touch previously.
@kimmccabe1422
@kimmccabe1422 Жыл бұрын
Difficult when yur Mom demands her privacy and doesn't get personal..the tremendous part also is-England is finally sentencing murderers etc to time that makes sense. Now stick to the tariff (having to do the time judge says BEFORE PAROLE OPTION).
@zombiechicken7114
@zombiechicken7114 Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you agree to tell lies like Bob and jennifer if you were not involved? Not to victim blame but pat seems to have said nothing at all to anyone about what was happening in her life. I'm private but even the mum and daughter relationship seems very broken here and if she was beaten by Chris that long ago she should have got out. Or told family. And how did he get so many women?
@janetch7384
@janetch7384 Жыл бұрын
life is strange
@gillmiller3702
@gillmiller3702 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a case of domestic abuse.
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Жыл бұрын
If you've never lived with a narcissist, you'll never understand how they make you feel like YOUR the problem, your brain gets so scrambled you seriously can't function without them telling you what to think and do. It's starts so slowly and is so insidious, you don't realize what's happening until your completely lost to yourself and others.
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Жыл бұрын
Look at the comments about Pat's mental health and bad choices etc. Those attitudes are exactly why people DON'T say anything it adds additional shame to an already bad environment. People say....just leave or get out...... They have NO clue how dangerous these people are
@joannhopkins1396
@joannhopkins1396 Жыл бұрын
Greed...........need I say more..........
@bryantotten2757
@bryantotten2757 Жыл бұрын
Well presented.
@LotusLady9
@LotusLady9 11 ай бұрын
What a terrible ending for this poor woman!
@Allegra-Myles
@Allegra-Myles Жыл бұрын
People going on about the daughter smiling, looks like a nervous tick to me. Happens to me sometimes 😢
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
It’s plainly obvious that the daughter is revelling in her mother’s demise. She is clearly smiling and laughing in every interview and talks like looks like she’s taking part in a feast and salivating over every morsel of her poor mothers suffering. The reason? Jealous of her lovely talented mothers life and with a n attitude like that she will always be a loser. She’s glad her mother died because she couldn’t bear to see her happy and hated the thought that her mother had a life . She was thrilled that the money didn’t go to the guy because she wanted it and resented him standing in the way of her getting the lot!!! She murdered her mother with her evil personality and set up the chain of events that ultimately killed her. The way she was murdered would have given her much satisfaction as she gloatingly spoke. The doctor was the best judge of character. That horror was a predator and probably groomed then forced her into the relationship. She couldn’t tell anybody because she was afraid of him. A manipulative lying womanising greedy, threatening murderous murder is the end result of violence imagine living with that evil monsters. The daughter is just like him. I hope shgets nothing for her trouble. Did anyone see any tears , compassion, anger, questions, No ! . Sadly the person who wrote in defense of the daughter needs ??? I’m speechless! The most weird thing. No love, sympathy, compassion for anyone. Poor, poor Pat. And don’t forget the vile monsters tried to get everyone to believe she had dementia!!!!!!! Those of you who make excuses for the daughter should take this as a warning to be aware of these predators or it will be your turn next. The main objective of this type of person of her kind, talented
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
It’s plainly obvious that the daughter is revelling in her mother’s demise. She is clearly smiling and laughing in every interview and talks like looks like she’s taking part in a feast and salivating over every morsel of her poor mothers suffering. The reason? Jealous of her lovely talented mothers life and with a n attitude like that she will always be a loser. She’s glad her mother died because she couldn’t bear to see her happy and hated the thought that her mother had a life . She was thrilled that the money didn’t go to the guy because she wanted it and resented him standing in the way of her getting the lot!!! She murdered her mother with her evil personality and set up the chain of events that ultimately killed her. The way she was murdered would have given her much satisfaction as she gloatingly spoke. The doctor was the best judge of character. That horror was a predator and probably groomed then forced her into the relationship. She couldn’t tell anybody because she was afraid of him. A manipulative lying womanising greedy, threatening murderous murder is the end result of violence imagine living with that evil monsters. The daughter is just like him. I hope shgets nothing for her trouble. Did anyone see any tears , compassion, anger, questions, No ! . Sadly the person who wrote in defense of the daughter needs ??? I’m speechless! The most weird thing. No love, sympathy, compassion for anyone. Poor, poor Pat. And don’t forget the vile monsters tried to get everyone to believe she had dementia!!!!!!! Those of you who make excuses for the daughter should take this as a warning to be aware of these predators or it will be your turn next. The main objective of this type of person is control, MONEY AND SEX. The daughter is sadistic
@B3llAAZURE
@B3llAAZURE 9 ай бұрын
@@PatriciaS-t1x Are you a body language expert? Sounds like you’re projecting Also You don’t any of these people to assume so much
@Truth1561
@Truth1561 Жыл бұрын
I suppose every family is different, but I can't understand such little contact between the daughter and her mother.
@IwasBlueb4
@IwasBlueb4 Жыл бұрын
yesm each family is different....so dont point ur finger....so much judging oon these damn comments sections, when people have no idea
@mariamab.8126
@mariamab.8126 Жыл бұрын
@@IwasBlueb4Truth1561 was not jugding, just wondering. So who is judging now?
@Veganallvegan
@Veganallvegan Жыл бұрын
Me neither, most adult children have their mother stay over at Christmas , that daughter didn't even bother calling her.
@joanannewallace
@joanannewallace Жыл бұрын
Well, the mother told the daughter not to come down, and people needed to mind their own business when the daughter said something. I think she was abused and under the control of Chris, who murdered her, plus she left all her money and house to him and not her grandchildren and daughter.
@ranichalupsky2827
@ranichalupsky2827 Жыл бұрын
The greed in him and than devil took over, greed is a sin 🌷
@tarantulamum4322
@tarantulamum4322 Жыл бұрын
this crime is so close to where i live (30 mins away) rip Patricia xx moved closer to stoke mandiville hospital
@Groover1
@Groover1 Жыл бұрын
more excellent police work
@rachelle2666
@rachelle2666 Жыл бұрын
Rip Ms Pat 🌺 so heartbreaking for her daughter 💜and friends 💛 what a selfish! Abusive! Vindictive!! Person
@borleyboo5613
@borleyboo5613 Жыл бұрын
The killer reminds me of Harold Shipman. Dr Death.
@suemassey5076
@suemassey5076 Жыл бұрын
Just what I said
@pearlkelly6337
@pearlkelly6337 8 ай бұрын
in what way
@oasisfani8353
@oasisfani8353 Жыл бұрын
I live 400 km away from my parent´s and we are still close. I call them at least 2 time´s a week. They aren´t that old yet( mum 58 and dad 62) and can cope but i love them and would do anything for them. I´m really lucky to have loving family. No violence, abuse or substance abuse problem´s. We didn´t had a lot of money, but lot of love and laughter. Me, my sister and my parent´s are always been close.
@swigglemuffin445
@swigglemuffin445 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me like Pat was the problem, not her family. She didn't seem to want much to do with them.
@theoryofpersonality1420
@theoryofpersonality1420 8 ай бұрын
That's absurd. Many people suffering from abuse isolate themselves. What an uninformed, ignorant comment.
@AhmedHassan-ed5ue
@AhmedHassan-ed5ue Жыл бұрын
So sorry for her family and friends
@Sabina_B17
@Sabina_B17 Жыл бұрын
Her daughter thought it was all so amusing ...with her great big grin on her face.
@MichelleBone-of8nw
@MichelleBone-of8nw Жыл бұрын
Anybody else find it odd that the daughter seems to constantly smile??
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
No -she got the inheritance. Simple
@cheetoesgal5229
@cheetoesgal5229 Жыл бұрын
Creepy daughter smiles throughout her statements about her mother. Murderer Chris gave me the chills but Pat's daughter had an even worse effect on me.
@Liitebulb
@Liitebulb Жыл бұрын
If you call that smiling
@Tiff723
@Tiff723 Жыл бұрын
I’ve found Pat’s daughter face expression extremely uncomfortable too
@lynneosborne5200
@lynneosborne5200 Жыл бұрын
We can smile with nerves
@louiseanderson1505
@louiseanderson1505 Жыл бұрын
Oh please (eye roll), just stop.
@cheetoesgal5229
@cheetoesgal5229 Жыл бұрын
@@louiseanderson1505 And your comment means exactly what?
@julieblair168
@julieblair168 Жыл бұрын
Since Chris will be spending the rest of his life in prison, I wonder if the inheritance went to her daughter.
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
You’ve hit the nail on the head!! That’s it!!! I couldn’t figure what didn’t add up. Now I know. Mystery solved!!! Yay
@amandajane8227
@amandajane8227 Жыл бұрын
Good to see Czar and max got credits for their parts in the dramatization.
@Enri45100
@Enri45100 Жыл бұрын
I've got a detective mind, always curious about things that don't add up, especially when they involve my loved ones. Some people say that I need to stop over-analyzing. In this case, I would have started to investigate what was going on long time ago. But I agree, not everyone is the same in this world.
@paulchristopher8634
@paulchristopher8634 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. You don’t wait 15 days to report some one missing.
@irinbree895
@irinbree895 Жыл бұрын
That Cris is laying the ground works on his ultimate evil plan. Poor old woman, seems like she really have no one at all .
@irish2979
@irish2979 Жыл бұрын
Pats daughter was beyond useless she know noting about her mum and called her on e a month wtf
@alisonwilson9749
@alisonwilson9749 Жыл бұрын
That's unfair, she seemed to me to have tried to keep in contact but her Mum wasn't having it.
@Liitebulb
@Liitebulb Жыл бұрын
They're obviously not close. Mum is not a child
@Ariadne76-k3d
@Ariadne76-k3d Жыл бұрын
You don't know what kind of a mother Pat was. She obviously was not intetested in being close to people.
@Galaxie08
@Galaxie08 9 ай бұрын
Shame on you for attacking victims' families. No wonder social media is so toxic.
@louisewright8769
@louisewright8769 Жыл бұрын
Totally amazed that she left the money to Him and cut out her daughter !! something wrong with the mother that is for sure bad judgement .
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
He forced her you foolll. Evil to the point of murder. You don’t go from being a normal person to planning murder over years suddenly. One punch is the same as stabbing. It means if you step out of line.....
@louisewright8769
@louisewright8769 Жыл бұрын
@@PatriciaS-t1x you have a point but everyone has free will she wanted a pair of trousers and paid the price for her foolish choices
@Matt_-um4ce
@Matt_-um4ce 9 ай бұрын
Fancy moving away from your mother and only calling her once a month
@LifewithAJ24
@LifewithAJ24 Жыл бұрын
Her daughter is a piece of work! And poor Pat,at her age she believed this tool would leave his wife??? Naive, but then again she was vulnerable
@jaijai5250
@jaijai5250 Жыл бұрын
She also chose to leave her house and savings to the man, not her daughter. They clearly weren’t close.
@joanannewallace
@joanannewallace Жыл бұрын
The mother was hard hearted if she left everything to the evil sod that murdered her and not to her daughter and grandchildren her own flesh and blood.
@JaneK6557
@JaneK6557 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes elderly parents who seem distant may actually have dementia…
@belindacole71
@belindacole71 Жыл бұрын
Holy Moly.... This Woman is 76 and she is cleaning people's homes. Where are her children and friends. What is wrong with the world apart from greed and I phones.
@emmalouise7884
@emmalouise7884 8 ай бұрын
Who knows what their relationship is like. We only call my mother in law occasionally because she was abusive and not a nice person when my husband was a child she also physically hurt one of our children. She doesn't deserve phone calls but we check on her anyway, that's all. Not saying Patricia was like this but some families are not close. I see My Nan once a week and call her every day all of my siblings and cousins do even the ones who live abroad call her all the time, she's a diamond we love her to bits ❤️
@melly9037
@melly9037 Жыл бұрын
I get the feeling tho that he didn't want ppl knowing what was going on and encouraged her to not speak about their relationship an i suspect bein an older woman possibly was a little embarrassed or was brought up in an era where women don't do that sort of thing 🤔
@TheMiseryIndex
@TheMiseryIndex 8 ай бұрын
Made out she was suffering from dementia, well the doctor soon crushed that scenario!
@kathyjones3320
@kathyjones3320 Жыл бұрын
How did he have all those relationships he's a mess and he looks in his 70s not 60s what was poor pat thinking.
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
He’s an 80 year old abuser -knows all the tricks and traps
@catherinegriessel56
@catherinegriessel56 9 ай бұрын
Every intimate character in this appear to me as strange
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 Жыл бұрын
So old woman was running a business, probably getting a pension, AND cleaning someone’s home? What was wrong with her? She said she had 100k, what was she saving all that money for? Where was her time to live and enjoy? Never.
@Sabina_B17
@Sabina_B17 Жыл бұрын
Why was Pat's daughter smiling throughout the programme....Seemed odd to me .
@keepitsimple4629
@keepitsimple4629 Жыл бұрын
Sabina, see gavin's comment. The daughter couldn't give a shit. I agree.
@jeangemmel7895
@jeangemmel7895 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing then I thought maybe I just think she is, so I made a proper effort to watch her facial expressions and yes she was smiling and not one tear or expression of concern!
@keepitsimple4629
@keepitsimple4629 Жыл бұрын
@@jeangemmel7895 she's pretty wicked.
@dimitrageorgiadi5087
@dimitrageorgiadi5087 Жыл бұрын
@keepitsimple I have noticed that some people are cold and distant by nature. It doesn't make them bad or good just indifferent
@kathyjones3320
@kathyjones3320 Жыл бұрын
Maybe pat and her daughter didn't have a great bond.
@infoline100
@infoline100 Жыл бұрын
Why does the daughter keeping smiling? One needs to regularly contact their elderly parent who reside independently.
@IwasBlueb4
@IwasBlueb4 Жыл бұрын
you who are all judging th daughtr....not all mothers are true mothers.....some can be horrible
@chezceleste
@chezceleste Жыл бұрын
Chris looks a lot like Harold Shipman.
@marcy3127
@marcy3127 9 ай бұрын
I'm amazed that three other women fell for his BS.
@petelongrs
@petelongrs Жыл бұрын
Money. The root of all evil.
@prometheusunbound7628
@prometheusunbound7628 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the Bible says that the love of money is the root of all evil. There's a distinction. Money in and of itself is innocuous; it's our desires that are poisonous and which poison us.
@evaflowervines9520
@evaflowervines9520 Жыл бұрын
@@prometheusunbound7628 precisely, my friend.
@petelongrs
@petelongrs Жыл бұрын
@@prometheusunbound7628 I stand corrected. Tim at 10 past six in the morning. How about swapping money for religion? Isn't that worse?
@PetroicaRodinogaster264
@PetroicaRodinogaster264 Жыл бұрын
If this was a tv series no one would believe it possible.
@lydialucsa5786
@lydialucsa5786 Жыл бұрын
Should of been the daughter house not Chris a bum
@borleyboo5613
@borleyboo5613 Жыл бұрын
Should HAVE not should Of. Or should’ve.
@maddyc2412
@maddyc2412 3 ай бұрын
​@@borleyboo5613it's my pet peeve
@Seekay-oe3qz
@Seekay-oe3qz Жыл бұрын
Ok so correction evil old man Chris didn't kill his wife but he was a Philanderer , wife on 1 side & a string of ladies on the other. Talk ABT the evil old age club ! Life for murder just doesn't seem to cut it. He's already in his twilight years.
@pearlkelly6337
@pearlkelly6337 8 ай бұрын
whats a philanderer
@vanessasimmons1175
@vanessasimmons1175 Жыл бұрын
So what happens to the inheritance in these cases? Are the wills null and void and the deceased in effect dies intestate?
@christianemontazer
@christianemontazer Жыл бұрын
Too bad no death penalty 🤬
@rio-wi1el
@rio-wi1el Жыл бұрын
Be weary of men named Chris who play the poor me card and are overly nice, the one in my life is a covert narcissist and getting worse as he age's
@alsmith9853
@alsmith9853 Жыл бұрын
Chris Watts springs to mind
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, they're ALWAYS both hero and victim. They LIE and slander to anyone to make themselves the poor hero victim.....always having the burden of taking care of a mentally unstable person. They do get worse. I had my own covert and these people who ASSUME you just break up and walk away. victim blame, have NO idea what it's like. Women are murdered all the time because they walk away. Narcissist are about CONTROL, when they lose control is when they're most dangerous
@amyjohnson5316
@amyjohnson5316 Жыл бұрын
Hope he gets tortured in prison I’m From Aylesbury and I hope this m never crossed 🤞 my path
@cherylmoore3349
@cherylmoore3349 Жыл бұрын
Interesting story disturbing
@wissymal5567
@wissymal5567 Жыл бұрын
Life in prison good .that's what he deserves
@Thejoyofdecorating
@Thejoyofdecorating Жыл бұрын
So sad!
@mariawerner8447
@mariawerner8447 Жыл бұрын
A 76-year old working full time? Interesting 🤔
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
She’s got dementia remember?
@emmalouise7884
@emmalouise7884 8 ай бұрын
My grandad refused to give up work he was working at 89 and still had 3 allotments ,rode his bicycle every day and had all us grandkids over most weekends to stay, and very fit and healthy ❤
@marlenedouglas7957
@marlenedouglas7957 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was Chris from the start. Don't know why daughter was so shocked
@mauricehorton3672
@mauricehorton3672 Жыл бұрын
Seems a strange relationship between mother and daughter, I can’t help but feel if it was my mum I would be more involved with her even if she was a bit standoffish, I would still want to know she was safe and cared for , especially as an elderly person . 🤔
@rubychurch3466
@rubychurch3466 Жыл бұрын
It’s ruined the daughters family because her kids have lost their grandmother and she had lost her mother. Yet she claimed earlier she hadn’t seen her mother since 2007. What a joke
@ianpilkington2037
@ianpilkington2037 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone think the actress who's playing Pat looks really familiar?
@nigeldunne7505
@nigeldunne7505 Жыл бұрын
Near me in high Wycombe so sad 😞
@RawOlympia
@RawOlympia Жыл бұрын
went there and saw that unconventional church on the hill, we stayed above a pub after playing darts, charming!
@pearlkelly6337
@pearlkelly6337 8 ай бұрын
in the same place as where my fella lives as well, awful story
@lamh5265
@lamh5265 Жыл бұрын
There is an old school who believe that their children should follow their wishes to the "T". Unfortunately those parents do their children a disservice. By the time children become adults, it is difficult to go against what has been drilled for a half century. By the time the parent realizes they need the adult child to help them think, remember and stay in the present, they have no training in how to persuade the adult child to turn and help. I bet right up to the end of the mother's life, she thought she was in control of he life, but was having memory issues. She didn't realize that she was trapped until late when she realized Chris wanted everything back and she was battling him alone. She locked everyone out because of privacy. Chris knew this because he set her up. He probably chose her because she was a loner. Morale of the story, get a lawyer, get a wittness to your will. People like Chris, who appear close and supportive, and sometimes adult fammembers too, should, NEVER, know what are in the contents of a will, unless it is a "death bed" revelation. Even then, tell nobody what is in a will. Keep family close and the lawyer closer. Family, insist that parents open their home often.
@XOX74
@XOX74 Жыл бұрын
Why is the video title "Nightmare in suburbia - The Babysitter and the Cyber Killer"?
@sharonletchford9375
@sharonletchford9375 Жыл бұрын
Well its not called that here it's called The horse trials? So I've NO IDEA WHY YOU HAVE SO MANY TITLES..WHERE ARE YOU IN THE WORLD?
@samanthalandry2296
@samanthalandry2296 Жыл бұрын
Mines called “nightmare in suburbia: 12 days of Christmas” I’m in Canada
@renioleksardo7537
@renioleksardo7537 Жыл бұрын
Really wierd the way Pat's daughter smiles while talking about these horrific events.
@emmalouise7884
@emmalouise7884 8 ай бұрын
Maybe nervous
@Sherirose1
@Sherirose1 Жыл бұрын
Many people think she is smiling. She isnt doing it on purpose. Dentures or a deformation ( like a tic ) can cuase this. Some people cope with tics this way. I feel sorry for the daughter becauae the mother is strong and sisnt want her daughter around. Ive observed 90 years old women push their chidlren away because they still want to be independent. You can see the children hurt faces and eyes when parents cut them with words. They draw away when it becomes more intense. Goes both ways. Some peopel are lost causes and they dont want you around them.
@PatriciaS-t1x
@PatriciaS-t1x Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I’m hearing such nonsense. You should write stories for..
@michhaynes7272
@michhaynes7272 Жыл бұрын
Police did a good job.
@dammiholbourne4093
@dammiholbourne4093 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where the concept of money had never been invented. Life would have a greater sense of security, and consider the possibility of a society where ownership was replaced with a collective sharing of resources until our departure from this world. In such a scenario, the occurrence of crimes would be significantly reduced, if not eliminated altogether.
@SallyMars
@SallyMars Жыл бұрын
Nah.
@pamelahaze3211
@pamelahaze3211 Жыл бұрын
Yes our system is a beast. But we are stuck with it.
@dammiholbourne4093
@dammiholbourne4093 Жыл бұрын
we don't have to do we> we re the largest majority against a minority system.
@dancingduouk3521
@dancingduouk3521 Жыл бұрын
The daughter didn't seem to care for her mother...rip pat Vulnerable older lady and her own family weren't there for her 😭😭 Even the daughter was smiling when talking about her mothers death....a bit off......maybe it was camera nerves I dunno but there wasn't much emotion ...
@sashalawrence4786
@sashalawrence4786 Жыл бұрын
Very typical of English family dynamics.
@Mrs.TJTaylor
@Mrs.TJTaylor Жыл бұрын
Not all mothers even want to be mothers. Not all mothers love and nurture their children. And a whole lot of them are just plain awful at it and hurt their children.
@carolmakin8075
@carolmakin8075 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that straight away, smiling and no emotion, very strange.
@jacqui9176
@jacqui9176 Жыл бұрын
@@sashalawrence4786 I don't think the English would agree with that.
@ignatius1681
@ignatius1681 Жыл бұрын
@@cathal4921 Agreed. My sisters grown kids didn't care much when she got breast cancer. She put up a brave face through her pain. They didn't have the mind to return some of all that love she had given them
@nightingaleofficial3604
@nightingaleofficial3604 11 ай бұрын
That man and his 2 followers and 3 side chicks are just too old for all that nonsense. Like grow up. And this is another reason that being private or closed off about your life can be dangerous. Luckily she wrote in her journals and was a creature of habits.
@janesmith9024
@janesmith9024 Жыл бұрын
That is terrible. Under English law you cannot profit from your own wrong so I hope that means her will in his favour and any interest she had given him in the 600k house is voided and her daughter gets the 600k house and 200k savings, after the UK tax office takes its massive chunk of 40% inheritance tax on all of it over £325k (based on the date of death). I do not agree with people's comments against the daughter below. All families are different. When my father died his local carers could not understand our parents wanted us to move away for our studies and lives because they were local women who never moved away from parents. In some families it is perfectly normal to be more apart and yet love each other.
@Butterflybloom4
@Butterflybloom4 Жыл бұрын
Why would a 63 year old man murder somone, I mean really it's retirement age..and his still sexually hyper active..my word
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