Nightwish - Perfume Of The Timeless [Reaction/Review]

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

With Marko it was an 11.

[@enriqueseguel8172]

I agree bro but unfortunately let it go... that's not gonna happen (at least anytime soon)

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

@@enriqueseguel8172 Marko comes back. He knows that. Jukka too. Give the brothers time.

[@enriqueseguel8172]

Let’s hope you’re right

[@claudiadorner9804]

​@@RaymondvanGelderenit's not like it's only Marko's decision

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

@@claudiadorner9804 I know he wanted family time. Of course his wife had a say in this.

[@stefanassmann7082]

I didn't miss Marco for a second, to be honest, even though he would have fitted the song very well. It's a new era and I really like it so far.

[@streetx4817]

Well said

[@Jacqueline.1964]

I concur

[@dakken74]

I also concur!

[@jessygt13]

I came here to say exactly this! Didn't really think of Marko with this song, but now that they mentioned it, I do agree his presence had the potential to make the song even better.

[@paisa20]

If Marko would be present the song were written different because Tuomas writes with his resources in mind

[@vl59011]

Funny how differently people see/hear things. I personally didn’t miss Marko on this one at all 😊

[@AlvenmodFoto]

Nothing to miss, he would not have added anything to this which wasn't already perfectly executed by Jukka

[@dakken74]

​@@AlvenmodFoto to be completely honest, I kinda like Jukkas bass playing better, it just feels more aggressive and rhythmic at the same time.

[@eilakanninen8001]

Marko now has a new life, a new family, a new baby, a new band, a new friendship with Tarja Turunen, a new album together with Tarja, so enjoy it. Nightwish is Nightwish without them. Jukkahan continued his work with Nigtwish without drums in Finland.

[@manuelmorante9465]

@@eilakanninen8001 👍👍😜😜👍👍

[@ironeddy]

I did not miss marko, jukka is just as good, sometimes even better i think. And i like troy his voice. ❤

[@helli0n824]

There will be no Marko anymore in Nightwish, so i don´t think about that anymore... He quit, not Nightwish throwing him out, like some singers before ;)

[@michaelbeecher5958]

He's dead to us.

[@user-Rockmagix]

@@michaelbeecher5958 Marco will never be dead for a real nightwish fan - he is now an achestrar!

[@MountainMetal]

@@michaelbeecher5958 He's what? Is that really necessary? Not really a good look for the Nightwish Army.

[@helli0n824]

@@michaelbeecher5958 Speak for Yourself ! He isn´t dead, he just pay attention to something else

[@helli0n824]

@@MountainMetal ppl like him aren´t "us"

[@gasperfavai4344]

It's a typical "new era" Nightwish song, musically and lyrically it's like a sequel to "Endless forms most beautiful". Bombastic, operatic, symphonic. Thomas is really fascinated by evolution and he transforms this fascination into his music must beautifully. I must say that I expected song like this as a first single and I really enjoyed it. But a video 😮. Man, what a fantastic piece of art it is, too.

[@APREACTS]

The video is excellent

[@m2alvaro]

this song has been growing on me as the days pass

[@tapio7133]

Well no, this song does not need anyone else. There is everything what it needs.

[@harrystarink4425]

Your'e right☺️☺️🙏🙏🤘🤘

[@ninau.]

Well said 👍

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Did I undertand correctly that your argument is that your *opinion* is that the song is good as-is, so the *opinions* of the reactors are incorrect? If you think their opinion is incorrect, why are you watching this video in the first place?

[@dakken74]

​@@MikkoRantalainenI think he's saying that judging the song based on what it "could" have sounded like is isnt fair to the actual song itself. The song should be judged and reacted to on its own merits and NOT what it could have sounded like with someone else added.

[@user-Rockmagix]

I am really surprised and delighted by your knowledge about the evolution and early times of mankind. Adore each reaction that gives me more knowledge. Keep on rocking, you are always a pleasure to watch. Greetings from germany.

[@APREACTS]

Wow, thank you!

[@sageanimist48]

i couldn’t put my finger on it, but your comment about Marco was it

[@williamosborne6866]

Loved Marko, he's gone, they have moved on, and spectacularly so with this epic. Troy's vocals throughout fit the track perfectly - his mellower and emotional parts were the perfect counterpoint to Floor's dynamics.

[@vayne92]

This comment section 😂 I'm embarrassed to be a Nightwish fan

[@TerranigmaQuintet]

Must have missed some deleted comments, because of what is left is pretty tame, outside maybe 1 or 2 comments or so.

[@kimmikke_]

It actually might be composed as Floor and Marko in mind for vocalists, because Tuomas started to compose these next Album (Yesterwynde) songs on 2020 when the COVID-19 isolations and Human || Nature Tour was cancelled and Marko left Nightwish on 12 January 2021. So if this was the first song of Next Album it might have been too far to totally re-compose. But I think it is a banger also without Marko and we all can have our own opinions, nothing wrong about it. Also the next Album is the 3rd Album of Trilogy, starting from the "Endless Forms most Beautiful", so that's why there are some familiar elements, because the Theme in these 3 Albums is the same (=Evolution), just the Viewpoint or Emphasis is changing per Album. Again a great Reaction Guys :)

[@MarcelCox1]

I find your reaction refreshing. The other reactors just did their diligenace to the Nighwish gods and just unconditonelly priased the song. You did a much more discussion with your ussual touch oh humor. I also look with amusement at the snappy reactions of some Nightwish fans to your comments on Marking missing. I think these people should get a life. BTW the extiction of the dinosaurs was the 5th extiction. If you know the Ayreon 01011001 album, you should know that ;-) BTW to the Nightish folks here. I love Nightwish and very much like this song. I just find some Nightwish fans are overly sensitive to people that don't share their opinions about Nightwish.

[@APREACTS]

5th extinction is correct. It blew my mind when I found out about it which I was only aware of the Dinosaurs

[@renejensen7799]

There is nothing wrong in thinking Marko would fit in, but use almost whole reaction to point it out..well

[@Josh-179]

I feel the opposite. I can't see where Marco's vocals would fit into this song.

[@jroutasula5250]

I share your opinion. Maybe Elvis or Lemmy would fit but you know ... . This song do not need anything more

[@jpdemer5]

He could have done what Troy did . . . he had a good voice for it. But no room for him to wail in this piece.

[@fettiestube5692]

Imagine this played live...Banger

[@paisa20]

Yes, for me the song has three parts, the middle part for me is the part for going live, similar to Song Of Myself, the poem part is not in the live version

[@majbrat]

I did not miss Marko on this at all. Jukka killed the baseline & both Floor & Troy did wonderfully. It is not disputed that they can make tons of songs better singing together, but he is not interested, nor part of the band for 4 years! It kind of is insulting to how spectacular the song is. I expect we will hear this live in future and I can not wait. If you really want to see Marko he has a single with Tarja out.

[@nickname3380]

Brings me back to Human:Nature… lol more complicated times; then again. I feel you guys on Marco, Planet Hell and Ever Dream feel the same. The song gets better in repeat.

[@enriqueseguel8172]

Yes, with Marko it would be another level, but since that's not gonna happen, I think we just have to get used to this "new era", it's still nightwish we all know and love, and (for me at least) will keep loving for a looooong time

[@mantailuaa]

19:18 There is still 1-4% of Neanderthal genes in humans, some have more some less. It has been studied that those N-genes makes us little different from others. If you want to get up really early in the morning that seems to be caused by N-genes. Also big factor is fertility, it is better with people who has Neanderthal in them. But it makes them also candidates for depression, for skin cancer and blood clots. But at the same time people with N-genes are much more resistant against stomach ulsers and Helicobacter pylori that causes cancer. Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens lived side by side some 45k years ago. This song is amazing time travel to our emotions. Very touching lyrics. And I did not need Marko singing in this, Floor and the choir were enough, maybe it could have finished without Troy singing imo. Just with piano.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

It was great that you honestly say what you think. Way too many reactors sing just praises for new releases to please the fans.

[@APREACTS]

The Nightwish fan base in general is extremely toxic, all you have to do is read this comment section to see it. How dare I to have an opinion and share it.

[@frances7945]

@@APREACTS I have been a Nightwish fan for 20 years, but lately the fandom has been so toxic and insufferable (more than usual, I mean) that it almost turned me off the band. I stopped watching reaction videos to Nightwish for that reason. I'm glad you guys always say what you really think, instead of praising everything the band does without any critical sense like many reactors do for views and popularity.

[@nikosv95]

@@APREACTS Ignore the toxic fans. Reactions should be honest. Thank you for not pretending!

[@APREACTS]

We have almost stopped covering this band because of the fan base. It has become a cult of personality

[@frances7945]

@@APREACTS Totally. The fandom was always toxic, but the situation escalated after Floor joined, it became the Floor army masquerading as Nightwish "army" (hate that definition, it implies belligerance).

[@Donna-C]

Evolution references in this video from the spider under the stingray, the butterflies, the fish in the raindrop and Darwin’s finches (“Darwin observed that when two groups of finches competed over the same food source, eventually one of them would evolve a different beak shape so they could feed on something else”)

[@petrik8550]

Marko makes any song better with his voice and singing. But in the end it's Tuomas and his songwriting that makes Nightwish special.

[@paisa20]

For me Marko makes any Nightwish song better, but i don't like his music or collaborations

[@jonastiger1000]

Fun and interesting conversation, from Hornswoggle to Evolution, and yes, the song.

[@Requinix17]

I agree Marko could have added another interesting flavor to this one. But I still really like this regardless

[@scottb.4472]

This entire thread is the exact reason why I don’t like to read comments in general…… It just turns into people attacking other people or attacking the music or what have you and it’s very very ugly…….. more I read the more I’m realizing that these discussions are not actually about the music it’s about each other. It’s turned into what feels like one big narcissistic party that I don’t want to be a part of. We all have reasons why we enjoy the music of Nightwish whether you wanna call it symphonic metal or a little poppy at times or a little classical or folky at times the one thing that we can all say about Nightwish is that their music is very dynamic it’s hard to put them in a box that’s why and I don’t like it when people call them symphonic metal because they are only symphonic metal For some songs. This was the first reaction that I have seen and I’ve seen about 30 where the reactor said that they wish that Marco was in the song. I don’t have a problem with them saying that it’s not up to me whether they are right or wrong. It’s their opinion and they are entitled to it, just needs to

[@APREACTS]

You also don’t claim to be right. We just saying what we think and how we feel and that in no way is a knock on the band or the song, vocally just felt that he was missed.

[@MountainMetal]

In my opinion: The band is exceedingly talented, with Commander Floor and Human Bleeping Drum Machine Kai Hahto legitimate superstars in their field. That's a given, and I do love them all, despite the undeniable toxicity that I guess is inevitable to some degree today in a major band's fan base. Some more than others... Having said that, what stands out here? The video production is impressive, but we've come to expect that. The message is good and strong and well presented. It really HAS taken A LOT for each of us to be alive, in a human body walking on this world, and that seems to be taken for granted by too many today, but it's actually pretty miraculous to pause and think about, so a special tip o' the hat to Master Holopainen there. Composition? Solid. He's still a gifted composer. Any new ground broken? Not really, and I'm not saying that's necessarily a demerit. Catchy and instantly echoing down the halls of my soul for the next week or two in the 'older' Nightwish style like Storytime or Song of Myself for example? Not really, at least for me, but we're all a little different and it may just be mostly me as far as that goes. Strong bass from Jukka, glad we can hear him, he's really good. Monstrous drums from Kai, glad we can hear him, too, he's an amazing drummer. Emppu seems throttled down, like way down, almost drowning in the orchestration. Hope we hear him much more in the rest of the album. Guy vocals are there and adequate, but... Marko had such a distinctive, attention-grabbing style (in a good way) and could be a real savage when he wanted... his emotional range and ability to connect burned hot and bright... big shoes to fill and it's only natural to notice that he's gone here. Floor... I don't think this song was meant to showcase her and I would be very surprised if other songs from the album have her placed 'just somewhere in the choir' as much as this. The right choice for a first taste of such an anticipated album? Questionable, but I'm happy to have some new Nightwish. Those determined to be wowed will be and those determined to be underwhelmed will be. I'll see myself out. Thanks for being here, guys. We appreciate you.

[@ericavantilburg6252]

Thanks for checking it out😉🤣❤️

[@jonagilby]

You stated that you hadn't missed Marco on any songs before - this is the first studio release since he left.

[@APREACTS]

But I have since seen Nightwish live and in that video commented on how great they sounded in songs that he was originally in. You will see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear.

[@zbygniewprlwytzkofsky6614]

If, if... As the great Max Verstappen mentioned: "If my mother had balls, she would be my father". Marko is gone and will not return, Troy's voice is great.

[@APREACTS]

In 2024 you mother could have balls and also be your father

[@adamparrott797]

I love the theme and the sound of this song, its profound with the video, I do miss Marko in a lot of ways the dynamic of their live shows will be different, I didn't miss in him in the song but I could see him in it.

[@jaapblaauw3735]

Not a bad song, nothing special either to me. Sounds like a continuation of Human/ Nature album, in fact it would have fit on that album in my opinion.

[@HannuPulkkinen49]

You have to take your eyes out of your neck. This is so good without Marko. Troy's part feels good. Wake up guys. With Marko, this song would be different, but not necessarily any better.

[@nikosv95]

You have to get your head out of your 𝗮𝘀𝘀. Opinions and tastes are subjective. If someone thinks the song would be better with marco , it's a valid opinion. I think the band would be better if Tuomas let the other band memebers contribute to songwriting and if Floor's talent was better utilzed. These are also valid opinions...

[@HannuPulkkinen49]

@@nikosv95 Your head is an ass and what's holding it up is slime. I have a right to my opinion just the same. And his name in Marko not Marco.

[@HannuPulkkinen49]

@@nikosv95 Your head is an ass and what's holding it up is slime. I have a right to my opinion just the same. Besides, he's not Marco, he's Marko. You started the offensive speech and that's what you order.

[@HannuPulkkinen49]

​@@nikosv95 Your head is an ass and what's holding it up is slime. I have a right to my opinion just as well.. Besides, he's not Marco, he's Marko. You started the offensive speech and that's what you get.

[@HannuPulkkinen49]

@@nikosv95 You seem to be the one you tell me to pull from. I'll be happy to do it. I have a right to my opinion too. It's not Marco it¨s Marko.

[@blueeyes1110]

Best of my knowledge this was the first song after Marco left the previous album Human Nature had Marco then he left

[@APREACTS]

The question is, if this was written while he was in the band is it possible that was written with him in mind?

[@petertapola8097]

When are you gonna... oh, you just did it. Cheers!

[@luisebritta6139]

I completely agree with your assessment. To me, it sounds like Floor is competing with the music/story or like she has to sinordinate to it while it was always the perfect symbiosis between music and vocals in the previous songs. On top of this, I am struggling with the synth choirs at the beginning. It feels hollow compared to the usual real human choirs used in previous songs. I know, Tuomas is a fantastic composer and likely did all of this on purpose but that doesn’t mean I (subjectively) need to like it.

[@yerviniansamvel]

Marko is not here anymore so move on,this song is masterpiece of Tuomas mysterious mind, I love this

[@tsohgallik]

Its an Atmospheric track🔥💨 Not every track needs to be 100mph every time. bands should have more creativity creating longer tracks that create "The Story" of the group/band creating a History... Come on now, too many haters. Watch what happens when full album release 😅 Even more hate or distain to "slow" tracks... Old/New Nightwish people just think back to "Once" album, Imaginarium, Endless Forms. Oh Beyonce created something like this for her Tour. She showed the process of the Tour and it wasnt entirely about the music or only her vocals.

[@JesperH1967]

So this review is based on: "What is Marko was still around?" Some are not able to move on. I really looked forward to this review 😢

[@APREACTS]

You obviously didn’t understand what was said if that is the take you have.

[@JesperH1967]

@@APREACTS Maybe not. I gave up listening, when you kept on yappening about "if Marko had been there......"

[@jonastiger1000]

Yes Marko is gone, he had his part to play, and it's over. It's fine, he's doing great stuff with Tarja . He will be fine, Nightwish will be fine.

[@victorvfn]

Whose guitar lick is that at the beginning?

[@APREACTS]

Intro video? If so, that was done by Andi of Thaurorod just for us.

[@victorvfn]

@@APREACTS Yes! Nice tone

[@hengedy]

How dare you have an opinion that differs from the reaction many NW fans want?😂 A very in depth reaction like always from you guys. Big up. What's the point of having a reaction video without your first thoughts and honest opinions anyway? It's good to see someone that have their own honest opinion instead of just doing it for the clicks and likes👍 I like the song btw and it's growing on me for every listen. All the best guys🤘

[@APREACTS]

Thank you for your kind words

[@renejensen7799]

Great song, great video, great reaction!! Marko is not in the band no more, deal with it ok.. hes not part of it, take the song for the great song it is.... you spend most reaction to point this out.. else great reaction..lol The title of album Yesterwynde is actually a non exiting word that Troy came up with. Yesterwynde is the opening track on new album, i belive its only like a intro, its a little over 2 min long, #2 on album then is a almost 10 min song, thats proberly another epic!! #3 is where i think they bring in a heavy track, and this Perfume of the timeless is #5.. so i think its gonna be a good mix of heavy songs, Epics, and maybe a full balled.. Perfume of the timeless, well its almonst a ghost energy song right, telling all these ancestors is perfume around in a timeless world, being around you still, also a message that your existens matters!! i feel tuomas also put in a little message that mankind could do better still, Einstein turn to ape.. I listened to this song maybe 50 times by now, and it is one i like to listen to with my headphones or without, its really a good song, when i can do so to me. Some say Floors voice is low in the mix, and i can agree its hard to get all words she sing, but if you look at it soundwise it sounds amazing!! and after a listen or 2, you know most of lyrics, and its no problem at all, its done fully on purpose for the sound experince of it.. cant wait for rest of album!! "Perfume of the Timeless" Released: 21 May 2024 The title of the album is a word made by band member Troy Donockley, which Holopainen describes as the feeling of time, history, memory, and being connected to past generation, who have "all had their lives, their ups and downs, and they don't exist anymore, except as atoms scattered all over the universe. And we're going to be in that state pretty soon as well. So that should give you something to think about." Holopainen has described the album as being about humanism, history, and the inspiration thereof, and that outlook of the album is positive and optimistic ] Track listing All tracks are written by Tuomas Holopainen. Yesterwynde track listingNo. Title Length 1. "Yesterwynde" 2:43 2. "An Ocean of Strange Islands" 9:26 3. "The Antikythera Mechanism" 5:55 4. "The Day of..." 4:34 5. "Perfume of the Timeless" 8:11 6. "Sway" 4:23 7. "The Children of 'Ata" 5:37 8. "Something Whispered Follow Me" 6:39 9. "Spider Silk" 6:26 10. "Hiraeth" 6:14 11. "The Weave" 4:53 12. "Lanternlight" 6:06 Total length: 71:07

[@stpfs9281]

"When, when, when?" Hahaha!

[@mshiker]

🎉💜🤘😈 Finnish metal music going strong!

[@Hasardiini]

Valco❤️❤️❤️

[@SR20FTW]

I'm going to ruffle some jimmies here, and that's ok. People saying Marko wouldn't have added anything here are coping hard. VERY hard lol. That's said the music composition was great as usual, but the vocals 9/10 times kill it for me, and Marko helped balance that out. The mix was bad too so Floors vocals were overpowered by the instruments and didnt do her any favors. I'm going to go a step further and and piss people off further by saying I'd really like to hear Tarja's vocals over this. Her Operatic style would absolutely murder this.

[@pdutchie4924]

Love the composition, it grows on you when hearing it more often. Conclusion so far: love it, all Nightwish characteristics are in there❣️

[@Mars-is4un]

🤗🍒🤘🏻 well done

[@peterkarargiris4110]

...wait, you guys have careers !? But seriously, that was an epic video. Charles Darwin, David Attenborough and Richard Dawkins would be proud. Every Nightwish song is an education. 8/10 for the song from me.

[@harrystarink4425]

No one needs to improve Tuomas. He does his own thing, and that's perfect. He also refused to say that Sleeping Sun should be shorter. You wouldn't tell a painter that another tree needs to be added. So don't complain, just enjoy another masterpiece from Nightwish.😊🙏🙏🤘🤘

[@MikkoRantalainen]

It seems that some people cannot accept that they can only like or dislike a given piece of art. However, in not-so-distant future AI generators will be smart enough to take any songs as input and implement the changes you want to create a *new* piece of art. Then everybody can create special songs just for themselves, based on existing songs and personal preferences. And the only thing that can slow down this progress is copyright law that's still designed to fit year 1886 world (Berne Convention).

[@SynphamyMusic]

@@MikkoRantalainen But that would be such sad thing when an artists work just becomes fodder for just anyone to take for themselves. Copyright is there for a reason, so that all the hours, weeks, months, years you put into creating something isn't cut up and butchered in a matter of days of sharing it with the world by 'fans' saying "nah this is what you should have done" and clicking a few buttons in an app. I want to support the artists for their vision, not the countless people that want to second guess them.

[@SIC1SIX]

@@SynphamyMusic Well said

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@SynphamyMusic Copyright is purely about monetary compensation for the artist. It's literally about verbatim copying. The thing you're describing is typically called moral rights as far as I'm aware.

[@SynphamyMusic]

@@MikkoRantalainen Copyright law is there to prevent people capitalising on the work of others. Its not just about verbatim copying, but also about things like AI that take their work and completely remove the artists from their creation, or even a person from their own voice or in the case of deep fakes, even their own likeness and actions. The moral element is that its wrong to use other people against their consent for your own purposes, especially when there's the inevitable risk of idiots holding them responsible for what you do with them... the monetary element is that obviously, artists should be paid for their work and people can't just recreate it freely just as if you do a paper or a study you'd be expected to reference any info you get from someone else otherwise it's plagiarism.

[@stasa-X]

Big intro like "music" and yes music was the intro of the concerts and maybe this one could be also. I love Auri and the end of the song is familiar with Auri songs, great video 👍 and fantastic evolution theory from 😂 you!!!! A NW song can't be mediocre, NW creates music for the next generations that is the reason that i am a 1998 old fan!!!

[@Piia2023]

Speaking of Marko missing...how good of a singer is Jukka... I haven't heard him singing. Thanks for an interesting reaction, really enjoyed it. We learned a lot from Tuomas and also from you. :) love the song snd the video is amazing.

[@KiriEdge]

Nearly everything that comes out of your guys mouths is funny, even the way you hold yourselves is funny xD just so entertaining

[@APREACTS]

Thank you!!! ;-)

[@TheWanderingBard17]

will you guys be at Progpower again? it was great to meet you

[@APREACTS]

Not this year. We are travelling to Europe for a festival and also Denver for Mile High Power Fest

[@TheWanderingBard17]

@@APREACTS I’ll be at mile high!

[@briansf7012]

I've watched a few reactions of this song. Am I the only who thinks we're passing through Titanic at the end. Check out the Lyric video, Floors vocals are much clearer.

[@christophschroer7502]

I can also imagine Marko in the song, but Marko has left the band, that chapter is over and Nightwish will continue to develop and change, as they always have. I didn't miss him that much here. The video also contains criticism of mankind and a kind of regression of evolution / reverse evolution. There was a scene where Einstein was seen turning back into an ape. Or the missiles heading for Earth.

[@APREACTS]

We saw them live on the last NA tour and didn’t miss him at all. People confuse missing a certain style vocals in a song that could be better with it, with missing a band member. The two are not equal to one another.

[@stpfs9281]

Early on, the view of the books was going from left to right, then it flipped, going back in time. "Silent clocks rewinding".

[@Suvanti17]

I agree and at the same time do not agree :D. The song doesn't NEED Marko, but... it could have been an 11 WITH him.

[@frances7945]

On first listen, I was a bit meh about this song. After listening to it repeatedly, I really like it, but it's nothing new, musically and thematically it's a continuation of the previous 2 albums. I'm bored with the science/evolution/nature/humanity theme, I mean, it's great and deep, but 3 albums in a row is too much for me. I'm looking forward to the album, hoping it will be better than the last 2 (which are amongst my least favourite in their discography).

[@jan-e.bypower]

Allmost the same for me, but i still dont like the song. Its to loong, and becomes boooooring.

[@nervanderi]

Well guys Marko is on reality, like Floor was... Mixed badly?

[@sandyegun3780]

This song needed Annette as much as it needed Marko.

[@APREACTS]

This comment section needed this comment as much as my living room needed a fart

[@eddiehesselman3904]

Oh no

[@huubdonkersteeg2408]

Honestly I don't miss Marko at all in this song. It even surprised me that I didn't miss him as much for the Human Nature tour as I thought I would. In my opinion the importance of Marko in Nightwish diminished the moment Troy became a full-time member of Nightwish. For better or worse (not everyone is probably liking the change of direction) . Imo it was also one of the contributors why he has left the band.

[@APREACTS]

I didn’t miss him live either on that tour.

[@axelroyer8394]

I usually don't like when people keep bringing back past members of bands, saying it misses him/her in the song, etc. But on that song, I had exactly the same feeling. Loved it, but it was like if I was hearing Marco's voice (in my head) in the chorus or some other parts of the song, like if it lacks it. That clearly is a song for him.

[@strabel803]

The only criticism i have is the volume of Floor's vocals at some parts and all Nightwish "fan's know how it could be with Marco ,it's a pitty but i think it is useless to think this way,you also could argue how this would sound with Anette or Tarja ,it's wasted time.😏

[@paisa20]

If Marko would be present the song were written different because Tuomas writes with his resources in mind

[@mode3247]

Love Nightwish ❤️🇨🇵

[@karadenizin-kizi]

When I heard Troy's part in the end my thoughts also went to Marko to be honest. And I think he could have been great for the chorus, too. As you said, it's not about wanting him back necessarily but he was a part of Nightwish and we know what his voice sounds like on Tuomas' songs so it would be odd to expect no one to think about how he would have sounded on a particular track. For me his voice always added something special, an extra depth.

[@eddiehesselman3904]

The chorus is big enough, he doesn't fit in it.

[@karadenizin-kizi]

@@eddiehesselman3904 I think he would've fit in

[@eddiehesselman3904]

@@karadenizin-kizi Well....i think it would be to much together with the choir....less is more.

[@karadenizin-kizi]

@@eddiehesselman3904 There were Marko + Floor + a choir in The Greatest Show on Earth all singing at the same time and that sounded just fine to me. Not too much at all. I don't see why this would be different.

[@eddiehesselman3904]

@@karadenizin-kizi Yes but live is another story. Also the chorus part of Perfume Of The Timeless is very full of sound with the choir and the orchestra and then with Marco is too much

[@gtdriver2416]

I feel like the vocals are a bit quiet in the chorus. I love the orchestra, but I can barely hear Floor. Otherwise I really love it. The last part with Troy is super beautiful. I also agree that Marko would have been great together with Floor.

[@samipiispanen5727]

Pedro needs a stronger beard. He looks like deranged Santa Clause, who found out he prefers nightclubbing now. ❤

[@carlearrye8473]

Epic 😊 song and video

[@keithteaser]

It dosent need Marko it needs Jukka because Jukka is the new member..people need to let Marko go..The song is perfect Marko left because to me he got divorced to marry a younger woman and has a new kid! So he is doing smaller venues as a solo so he dosent have to payout as much to his old wife?(Just my opinion)

[@thepredator666qc4]

This is none of our business...

[@nixon_pinango]

I agree with you that it is not a 10 out 10 song, but I don't think it has to be with Marko. I really didn't miss him here. In my opinion, it would be the transitions, some are stranges (not as progressive as they pretend to be), and the high gain of the guitar at the heavy part, which make it sound blackie. I also think it is a little bit repetitive with the chorus, they play it a total of 6 times.

[@APREACTS]

Something is missing for sure

[@legoaxel8695]

Awesome song

[@nightwish5967]

Great song too..ha ha ha~~

[@michael.albinus]

Of course it was the first time/song that you missed Marko since he left - because this was the FIRST song since Marko left... 😁😂🤣

[@APREACTS]

I saw them live since he left and I didn't miss him at all. Plus I don't miss Marko, this song misses his vocal range. There is a difference.

[@michael.albinus]

@@APREACTS Ok, you got me. 🤗

[@MikkoRantalainen]

23:10 "I don't know man, aliens did it." 🙃

[@Micha-th8fb]

Troy not Marko..

[@-ephemeral-7255]

To talk about Marko with new Nightwish releases is such BS. He did quit himself and he has nothing to do with Nightwish anymore. So the talk about if if if if is pointless.come on this is now a new era the Jukka era.

[@Bashi88]

I was expecting to hear Marco as well during the chorus, but then I remembered... A bit boring musically but together with the video it works quite well.

[@GlobalTossPot]

Bands are damned if they do, damned if they don’t these days 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@APREACTS]

Bands can do whatever they want. Listeners can listen to it or not listen to it. I think bands should always do what they want and what feels right to do creatively, what people have to say about it(good or bad) should be irrelevant afterwards. You will never make everyone happy.

[@sergiopaulino859]

I agree Marko would made a difference in this song

[@marcfromparis333]

Are you really complaining about receiving so many messages from your subscribers? Isn't that proof that they really appreciate your feedback?

[@APREACTS]

I am not complaining, I am stating it

[@MaggiWuerz]

You might be correct with Marco, but either way this song is "just" ok to me. It sounds like it could have been on the previous record, which I never listen to, because it doesn't catch me. It is bit too atmospheric, if that makes sense.

[@APREACTS]

This song for sure feels like it could have been on the previous record, we also touched on that

[@tomdog78]

No it doesn't.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@tomdog78 Could you elaborate a bit more? Just saying yes or no doesn't move the discussion forward in any meaningful way. If you just want to agree or disagree, clicking the thumbs up or thumbs down will be enough.

[@tomdog78]

@@MikkoRantalainen there whole statement doesn't make sense. It's symphonic metal it's supposed to be atmospheric and eye opening. The eye opening part is where Tuomas comes in. As far as Marco goes, he claims he left Nightwish for mental reasons. But now he's singing with Tarja. The Almighty dollar is why he left. Period. I love Marco but I have to say bye bye to him.

[@GlobalTossPot]

@@tomdog78 Marko also stated he left because he didn’t care for the business side of Nightwish. Still odd seeing he’s playing it up with a bunch of different projects now. I also get people missing his vocals but I mean what is Tuomas suppose to do, just disband the band because of it? Not make music for Nightwish because he left? Some people are making it seem that way. It’s common sense to go into this new album knowing he’s not on it. It’s fine to have an opinion and not like the song but completely bash something Tuomas has no control over is a bit much. Bands are damned if they do, damned if they don’t these days.

[@perennialcoma]

Oh no, opinions!

[@hdihko8750]

Check yout apocakyptica feat. James hetfield and rob trujillo / one

[@stefanocompadre]

Its great as it is, dont know how they can speak about marko for 5 minutes here😬

[@Cake-ql8lh]

Day 11 me asking you to listen to Disembodied Tyrant / Synestia - Poetic Edda EP

[@BigzampanoXXL]

I love Marko and Floor. In this case i think choir is more important so they hold back the vocals of Floor. Intentionally by Tuomas.

[@Thullin13]

Typical Floor era Nightwish, safe, good technically, but the magick and energy i used to feel listening to Tarja era is not there, for me personally.

[@Zoey-K-1]

I don't get it...he chose to leave and the band has moved on, as have true fans...people always whining about Tarja, and now Marko...nothing stays the same and life goes on. Everything changes. Everything EVOLVES. He's gone. Get over it.

[@MathewMilutin]

You are on a circular line of thought...I am sure if Jukka were back the drums would be different, if Tarja were back the vocals would be different, on and on. Nightwish is evolving just as so many bands before them have as well. I just appreciated each and every song for what they are and grateful for them as a band and a sum of the existing whole...

[@APREACTS]

I have never said that I missed them on a song since they left because I have never missed them on a song. I don’t miss Marko in Nightwish, what I said is that this is a song that misses his vocals. That is not the same. You need to look at music and see what serves it not who is serving it.

[@Djekkie-gj7jz]

I don't miss Marko in this song at all. Listen a few times more. In this song you hear the choir of the ancestors, and the intention is not to let some voices stand out. It would actually diminish the experience. That's why this is a fantastic song even without Marko.

[@tarmotyyri6733]

Some probability calculations: Step 1. Probability of boy meeting girl: one in 20,000. Step 2. Probability of same boy knocking up same girl: one in 2000. Step 3. Probability of right sperm meeting right egg: one in 400 quadrillion. Step 4. Now lets assume that you have just those 12 generations of ancestors mentioned in the intro to this song. For the probability of every one of those 12 generations of your ancestors having reproduced successfully with right sperm having met the right egg is 400 quadrillion to the 12th power. Given these 4 steps, the probability of you being born you at the present moment is 20k x 2k x 400 quadrillion to the 13th power. Going backwards in time with even more generations of your ancestors, we soon reach a probability of 1 divided by the number of atoms in the entire universe. This makes each one of us a unique miracle.

[@HrdRck]

Ah, hello blocker. Pedro - learn to take criticism.

[@APREACTS]

I don’t have to listen to you on my personal FB wall, you are not my friend or someone I socialize with. Here you can post all your little heart desires.

[@HrdRck]

@@APREACTS It's social. Don't like being criticized? Don't post. You're way too sensitive for this gig.

[@APREACTS]

My personal FB page is not social, it is my personal page. Learn boundaries, you are a grown ass man acting like a child.

[@JWS-66]

A Masterpiece IMO

[@SIC1SIX]

I wish (with zero chance of happening) Marko would return to Nightwish too. It's just a wasted wish though. But it would be fuc*king fantastic

[@beloch6455]

I really miss Marcos voice. I hope they surprise us with some Jukkas growls in this album, we need some rasppy manly voice combined with Floors angelic one again :D

[@eddiehesselman3904]

Well....Floor can growl to

[@moocorp4574]

I agree with regards to Marko

[@mikemorrison4084]

Floor's vocals are too low in the mix during the chorus. I've read it was a creative decision to have her blend in with the choir but I don't think it worked.

[@TerranigmaQuintet]

Worked for me.

[@icewinter89]

The vocals are way too low. It’s difficult to make out the lyrics.

[@METAL4EVER.]

Some Nightwish fans are like the gestapo. Of course the band misses Marko.And I add,their latest albums are very boring and uninspired,like this song.Not to mention how wasted Floor’s voice is with the musical orientation that Mr Tuomas has decided to take.Let him fire his musical advisor Troy and maybe someday they will awaken my interest.

[@heikkimuttonen5288]

Gestapo killed and tortured people. NW fans comparing to them 😢

[@heavybizpod]

ThIS iS tHe WoRsT rEvIeW eVeR :P

[@Tibor860]

Imagine if every review was how you want to review it Boring 🤣

[@linuxsauna]

Human kind originated from a place called Odenmaa. Modern day Finland. It used to be tropical. Check it out. It is "forbidden" information to date. The Bock Saga; Väinämöinen mythology. Disclaimer: you will face MUCH opposition and ridicule to this. Human kind originates NOT from Africa or anywhere else mainstream for that matter that you've been told (or you've read). Well; Oden simply means " the sun". Garden of Oden (not "Eden"). A single family from Finland (Vinland) carried this ancient information - The Bock family (Pukki). The last Bock was Ior Bock. Tropical: ALL humans used to be of dark skin (due tropical climate). Then came the Ice Age; Alt-Land-Is (all land ice). "Atlantis" is a misdirection / misinterpretation .. Socrates spake of "Hyperborea" - it means absolute north. His description matches even the modern Finnish shorelines. The original "pagan" culure was almost completely destroyed by forces of Vatican (in all of Europe). Finland was the last bastion of this ye olden nature loving culture. This Odenmaa's (modern day Finland) center was HEL (current day HELsinki) - the original north pole. Earth's "axis" turned - became Alt-Land-Is (all land ice). The people (and animals) inside the tall ice walls for centuries - therefore lost their pigment; became "white". Polar bears, lambs, chickens... (arctic types). Keep your mind open, when researching The Bock Saga. Sa= means to get. Ga= means to give. It is about so called Root and Van (one) language. These two are the first *primal* languages from where ALL languages of modern originate. All that being said; Darwin (in his theories) got surprisingly much right.

[@kowalsolosolo]

The video quality BLEW ME AWAY. The song? Meh. It is okay, I suppose. Glad to hear the band goes back to heavier sounds. This almost sounds metal!!

[@eddiehesselman3904]

That's why it is Symphonic Metal

[@kowalsolosolo]

@@eddiehesselman3904 No shit,really?

[@eddiehesselman3904]

@@kowalsolosolo This almost sounds metal.....it is Metal...not almost