Japanese Counters are confusing…? 🇯🇵

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NihongoDekita with Sayaka

NihongoDekita with Sayaka

5 ай бұрын

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@NihongoDekita
@NihongoDekita 5 ай бұрын
〜枚{ まい | mai }: Flat things Ex) paper, t-shirts, cards 〜台{ だい | dai }: Machines, cars, large instruments, platforms to stand Ex) beds, tables, trucks, bicycles 〜冊{ さつ | satsu }: Books Ex) books, albums, magazines 〜本{ ほん | hon }: stick-shaped or long items Ex) pen, bottles, cans 〜杯{ はい | hai }: Liquids in cups or bowls Ex) bowl of rice, ramen, glass of beer, cup of coffee 〜人{ にん | nin }: Person 〜匹{ ひき | hiki }: Small or medium-sized animals Ex) dogs, cats, monkeys, fish 〜個 { こ | ko }: Anything that has a clear boundary Ex) tangerines, bread, glasses, bruises
@IdoN_Tlikethis
@IdoN_Tlikethis 5 ай бұрын
And then there's 〜名 { めい | mei } which is also for people but only used for reservations and such
@erick1fpb
@erick1fpb 5 ай бұрын
Bruises don't have boundaries 😂
@paper2222
@paper2222 5 ай бұрын
ah yes rice, my favorite liquid
@laiagazquezsanchez
@laiagazquezsanchez 5 ай бұрын
Why then one person is 一人 (ひとり) and not いちにん?
@caseygreyson4178
@caseygreyson4178 5 ай бұрын
I thought ko was for round things?
@antongroewentrup
@antongroewentrup 5 ай бұрын
When a language just wants to mess with you. 😂
@inappropriateuser5581
@inappropriateuser5581 5 ай бұрын
I can confirm bc Chinese and Japanese counter are similar
@timurkral3781
@timurkral3781 5 ай бұрын
Its like greeting cheese. You know its not melted but you're still dreaming of it!
@vio3366
@vio3366 5 ай бұрын
​@@inappropriateuser5581I would say Japanese counters are even harder because they change their form very often depending on the number your counting, they're very irregular. As far as I'm concerned this doesn't happen in Mandarin.
@inappropriateuser5581
@inappropriateuser5581 5 ай бұрын
@@vio3366 tru
@gkebgxj68vs5ho
@gkebgxj68vs5ho 5 ай бұрын
​@@inappropriateuser5581 No, we make SENSE. We troll but not this badly
@marissawalters915
@marissawalters915 5 ай бұрын
I quit learning for 5 years after i learned about counting. Im back at it again years later and it still makes me want to cry.
@NihongoDekita
@NihongoDekita 5 ай бұрын
You got this!
@sebastian-ny1sp
@sebastian-ny1sp 5 ай бұрын
​@@NihongoDekita just forget about it then. Natives rarely use any of the counters anyway.つ and 個 is used for 99% of things in reality, the counters are only used in textbooks. I have heard japanese people use ikko for one car instead of ichi dai.
@casualweekday-ytshadowbang2469
@casualweekday-ytshadowbang2469 5 ай бұрын
"hitoshizuku"
@lucam8758
@lucam8758 5 ай бұрын
​@@sebastian-ny1spyeah, very often natives themselves will forget or ignore grammar rules. It's hard for a student to know which rules are ok-ish to bend/ignore vs which rules would make you sound ridiculous or illiterate 😅😢
@martadabis1350
@martadabis1350 5 ай бұрын
This was the point when I stopped enjoying studying Japanese… she is doing great!
@user-xp6li1qp2r
@user-xp6li1qp2r 5 ай бұрын
To Japanese learners suffering from this, you can substitute "つ" or "個" for many counters. Although it's not sometimes the right way of counting, Japanese people including me often use them. For example, the counter for books is 冊, but there's no problem using つ or 個 instead in coversations as long as they are used to count objects and unless you use them to count people and animals.
@harshitchandra_07
@harshitchandra_07 5 ай бұрын
You mean I can say '本が一つお願いします' and it's okay?
@user-xp6li1qp2r
@user-xp6li1qp2r 5 ай бұрын
@@harshitchandra_07 Well, actually it has to be 1冊(いっさつ), but 本を1つ買った and 本を1個買った(I bought two books) sound ok in casual conversations. Objects ultimately can be counted with つ or 個 from my personal experience (I think つ is more common). Note that つ can't be used to count more than 10 (You can't say 10つ, 11つ...). Counters are really difficult concept. Even when describing similar objects, they can change. In fact, when I order a bowl of miso ramen, I say "みそラーメン1つお願いします" rather than "みそラーメン1杯お願いします" because I recognize the ramen as a bowl of ramen when I order it and a bowl can be counted with つ or 個, whereas I say "もう1杯もらえますか?(Can I get another 杯?=Can I get a refill?) when I want a refill because what I really need is ramen contents (soup and noodles), excluding the bowl.
@ross6753
@ross6753 5 ай бұрын
Yes, -tsu is a lifesaver :-D
@Nsquare_01
@Nsquare_01 5 ай бұрын
Like, itsu?
@user-xp6li1qp2r
@user-xp6li1qp2r 5 ай бұрын
@@Nsquare_01 1つ、2つ、3つ、4つ、5つ、6つ、7つ、8つ、9つ(hitotsu, futatsu, mittsu, yottsu, itsutsu, muttsu, nanatsu, yattsu, kokonotsu). This is the remnant of ancient Japan's way of counting (hi, fu, mi, yo, itsu, mu, nana, ya, kono, to). In general, we don't use 5つ to 9つ that much in coversations than 5個 to 9個 because they are kind of hard to pronounce while 1つ to 4つ are often used.
@sarashappyhives1828
@sarashappyhives1828 5 ай бұрын
I felt that “I can’t” 😂
@Kainync
@Kainync 5 ай бұрын
Like you want to scream "MURI, MURI, MURI" really loud?
@sarashappyhives1828
@sarashappyhives1828 5 ай бұрын
@@Kainync Or むずかしい muzukashii!
@PopoRamos
@PopoRamos 5 ай бұрын
Well that’s fun 😂 a whole new way of thinking about numbers
@sethmcbride8490
@sethmcbride8490 5 ай бұрын
this seems harder than pitch accent lol
@jackthompson6296
@jackthompson6296 5 ай бұрын
It’s not that hard, there’s only a few hundred counters. It might only take you a few years to learn the important ones
@madhououinkyoma
@madhououinkyoma 5 ай бұрын
@@jackthompson6296ah OK thanks!
@izumiruki
@izumiruki 5 ай бұрын
I've got this nailed but pitch accent is still killing me after 5 years. I ask my Japanese colleagues to correct my pitch all the time. 🙃
@mittsu03
@mittsu03 5 ай бұрын
@@izumirukihave u tried migaku’s pitch accent trainer?
@ghanaria7996
@ghanaria7996 5 ай бұрын
@@jackthompson6296a few hundred? I thought maybe like a hundred at most. I’m just gonna use the generic つ or 個 counter for everything. It’s so pointless.
@Demo_emo
@Demo_emo 5 ай бұрын
"it's a counter for flat things" I guess I am included
@stu3yy_
@stu3yy_ 5 ай бұрын
flat supremacy
@haroldberserker
@haroldberserker 4 ай бұрын
Not that flat
@Kay-ol1ye
@Kay-ol1ye 2 ай бұрын
Ichi mai oppai!
@Discodian
@Discodian 2 ай бұрын
Damn i started laughing so hard
@Chuuya_simp_i_love_nijisanji
@Chuuya_simp_i_love_nijisanji 5 ай бұрын
Even as a Japanese when i was younger i was so confused at this and i begged my mum to teach me bc it was so confusing-
@braveshine2579
@braveshine2579 4 ай бұрын
aw. sweet. what happens after that? She gave up or you gave up? Just curious as well as kidding.
@Chuuya_simp_i_love_nijisanji
@Chuuya_simp_i_love_nijisanji 3 ай бұрын
@@braveshine2579 oops sorry late reply!! She just gave up afterwards "ur so hard to teach😭😭" HAHAHA
@FransceneJK98
@FransceneJK98 14 күн бұрын
So how did you learn??? I’m so confused
@SienAppelsien
@SienAppelsien 5 ай бұрын
I am currently learning these and for me its the hardest part of japanese 💀
@sergiom3988
@sergiom3988 5 ай бұрын
More than 2 kanji words?
@sergiom3988
@sergiom3988 5 ай бұрын
More than memorising words like 自転車?
@TomiokaGiyuKny
@TomiokaGiyuKny 5 ай бұрын
Im also learning Japanese and Kanji is the hardest for me 😭👍
@CatClan
@CatClan 5 ай бұрын
Japanese onomatopoeias take that place in my heart about the language... so freaking confusing on which context to use then and heavily used in casual conversations
@Froggycolouring
@Froggycolouring 5 ай бұрын
More than kanji?
@aartipai3003
@aartipai3003 5 ай бұрын
Ok though it's confusing , this kinda makes me wanna learn the language more !
@NihongoDekita
@NihongoDekita 5 ай бұрын
Yesss!!
@ayulestari1620
@ayulestari1620 5 ай бұрын
Agree with you 😂 Let's Study more
@meribor
@meribor 5 ай бұрын
Counter words haven't scared me away yet!
@Meianju
@Meianju 5 ай бұрын
🤣 ​@@NihongoDekita
@alclay8689
@alclay8689 3 ай бұрын
Masochist.. lol
@satomz
@satomz 5 ай бұрын
Me a Japanese being asked to explain why and how this works: I can't 😭
@nester7315
@nester7315 5 ай бұрын
Even that meme with sitting/standing/laying things on table in russian is easier)))
@fusen248
@fusen248 5 ай бұрын
一本でも人参という歌をうたってとぼけて下さい😁
@liamdoinsomething6017
@liamdoinsomething6017 5 ай бұрын
yeah there are so many of these. the ones that i can think of are: 个 - large objects, people, last resort if you can’t remember the counter 粒 - smaller than about an egg 只 - small fat objects, animals 条 - long objects 本 - books 张 - paper, some furniture 台 - large electrical appliances 瓶 - bottle 罐 - can 杯 - cup 双 - pair 份 - portion 次 - time (as in “bought three times”) 片 - squareish flat objects, slice 支 - cylindrical objects, writing tools 盒 - box 束 - bouquet of flowers 节 - classes 幢 - building 所 - non-profit building, aka school, service building 家 - business 碗 - bowl 盘 - plate 套 - set 副 - also a pair, but used differently 种 - types, languages and the list goes on and on
@Namara222
@Namara222 5 ай бұрын
That looks so much like chinese it's crazy 🤯
@rawonions8827
@rawonions8827 5 ай бұрын
@@Namara222this is chinese
@axuu8942
@axuu8942 5 ай бұрын
Actually I find this kind of fun to learn :) And perhaps it makes things easier then you already know these counters.
@joy-6629
@joy-6629 5 ай бұрын
​@@Namara222that is chinese. As someone who is chinese, im so thankful for it, makes learning kanji so easy LMAO.
@ayzn..
@ayzn.. 5 ай бұрын
@@joy-6629 same here! but now we have to remember two pronunciations for the same character 😭
@minatisahapaul7752
@minatisahapaul7752 5 ай бұрын
As someone who is trying to learn japanese for 2 years I can grantee that I too felt that "I can't"
@sergiom3988
@sergiom3988 5 ай бұрын
Same here! Been "studying" Japanese for almost 2 years and... Some aspects are utterly confusing.
@calicobagels
@calicobagels 5 ай бұрын
@@sergiom3988 Yeah same
@8P3ths
@8P3ths 5 ай бұрын
I feel the same pain in chinese, but we'll get through it! We have measure words for everything just like Japanese
@leeq-yann4642
@leeq-yann4642 5 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I have a Chinese and Malay base😩 It’s kinda the same thing just different pronounciation
@coruscaregames
@coruscaregames 5 ай бұрын
Ah, noun counters. I remember this from Mandarin, glad to see it back. I'm translating my classmate's joke into Japanese: if an animal gets run over by a road roller, do you use 一匹 or 一枚?
@josiahbaumgartner7643
@josiahbaumgartner7643 5 ай бұрын
My Japanese friend told me just make sure I know ~人 and ~つ and even though it may be technically wrong everyone will know what I’m saying. Don’t get so stuck on learning counters that you give up or don’t learn the rest of the language. Complex counters will come more naturally later
@ghanaria7996
@ghanaria7996 5 ай бұрын
I agree the generic ones are best to remember, and then the ones you’ll use often like beer.
@zareien2290
@zareien2290 5 ай бұрын
You can think of satsu: 冊 as a counter meaning "volume". As in "i am holding three volumes of a book" Mai: 枚 is comparable to sheets: three sheets of paper Dai: 台 is devices (computer, tv, computer monitor, etc) "i have three computer devices" Hon: 本 means a cylindrical object, so why does the kanji usually mean book? Because the original japanese books were SCROLLS! 📜
@GrahamMilkdrop
@GrahamMilkdrop 5 ай бұрын
That's the most helpful information on this subject that I have encountered so far. Thank you. It brings to mind collective nouns in English... a flock of birds, a herd of cows, a pack of dogs, a group of people, a stack of boxes, a pile of rocks etc
@zareien2290
@zareien2290 5 ай бұрын
@@GrahamMilkdrop thank you! I'm glad it helps. I completely agree with your comparison to collective nouns. Both are terrible to try and learn! 😂😂
@RNG-esus
@RNG-esus 5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS MAKE SENSE!!
@braveshine2579
@braveshine2579 4 ай бұрын
dai also used for podium on stage when speaker speaks. maybe like big rectangler box like used to be computers are.
@zareien2290
@zareien2290 4 ай бұрын
@@braveshine2579 interesting! Do you think it could be perhaps related to the fact that devices used to always be mounted on a stand, and the grammar stuck while devices shrank
@iniondit7585
@iniondit7585 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that's difficult. As a student of Japanese, I struggled a lot. As if they were not enough then came the second batch--the "wear or put on (something) words". I got seizures.
@danielantony1882
@danielantony1882 4 ай бұрын
Yeah… those ones…
@nickrodriguez3850
@nickrodriguez3850 5 ай бұрын
Sayaka you're absolutely the best and most creative teacher ever, you seem like a world citizen and not just Japanese 😊
@moludogRBX
@moludogRBX 5 ай бұрын
Ngl as a Japanese now I realize how confusing this maybe to foreigners 😂
@sergiom3988
@sergiom3988 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, her frustration is entirely justified.
@hawktrainer
@hawktrainer 5 ай бұрын
The editing on this is 🏆🙌
@KitsukiiPlays
@KitsukiiPlays 5 ай бұрын
I started studying Japanese. My class has a “don’t give up!” channel on discord and now I can see why
@alextimis3771
@alextimis3771 4 күн бұрын
I love your endings! keep up the good work 🥰
@joshdaniels2363
@joshdaniels2363 5 ай бұрын
When I first started learning these about 14 years ago, I basically told myself that I'd probably never get counting perfectly right (there are simply too many rules, and so many of them are entirely arbitrary), and I made peace with that fact.
@Yukimation
@Yukimation 5 ай бұрын
That beer pour was so illegal 🤣
@NihongoDekita
@NihongoDekita 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@zingiberae
@zingiberae 5 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with pouring beer like that. If anything it is better
@Yukimation
@Yukimation 5 ай бұрын
@@zingiberae yeah of course you can drink it any way you like as it’s subjective, but as a former bartender 9/10 times people will complain if you pour it like that, including myself because I prefer liquid with my foam
@RCuriousPilot
@RCuriousPilot 5 ай бұрын
​@@zingiberaethat wasn't a beer pour, it was a foam pour
@benharding5591
@benharding5591 5 ай бұрын
​@@Yukimationyeah it made me gag
@rubrumvulpespuella4140
@rubrumvulpespuella4140 5 ай бұрын
As someone who studied Chinese first, this totally makes sense.
@bunnyrabi
@bunnyrabi 4 ай бұрын
​@@mxlody_xngel9401what do you mean? It's literally the same idea. Please don't confuse people. The only difference is Japanese has different way of speaking. However the writing is very similar because.... Japanese uses Chinese characters!!! Which means they took the general rules from China!
@mxlody_xngel9401
@mxlody_xngel9401 4 ай бұрын
@@bunnyrabi ur wrong...? Japanese has kanji and another form of writing, which uses some similar characters to chinese, but most r different...ik this bc im literally chinese?
@danielantony1882
@danielantony1882 4 ай бұрын
​@@mxlody_xngel9401Kanji means Chinese characters, friend.
@bunnyrabi
@bunnyrabi 4 ай бұрын
@@mxlody_xngel9401 apparently being Chinese doesn't mean you know everything about the history of your own language. Thus why Chinese teachers never advise to ask those that didn't major in Chinese about chinese language questions... I'm kind of shocked though as a Chinese person you did not know know Kanji is Chinese... Anyway, the fact that you even argued after watching the video makes me question if you can even read Chinese characters...
@mxlody_xngel9401
@mxlody_xngel9401 4 ай бұрын
@@bunnyrabi i didnt mean that kanji isnt chinese, majority is. However there are many differences as to simplified chinese vs. traditionsl chinese. Kanji uses both, while also making changes to tbe character. So, yes, kanji is "chinese" in a sense, however its def not the same. I wouldnt be able to read evetything in kanji, as i only know simplified chinese characters.
@yoonalee3238
@yoonalee3238 7 күн бұрын
That “I can’t” is so real 😂😂 I did JLPT N5 in two months and passed the exam but went to exam ignoring those counting😂😂 I tried and gave up It’s too messed up but when you keep hearing them you just get used to the ones in day to day life
@invokingvajras
@invokingvajras 5 ай бұрын
Wa 羽 means "feather" and is a counter for birds or rabbits. Which is hilarious, because it's like the ears make you think of bird wings.
@cheaire
@cheaire 5 ай бұрын
chinese is also so unnecessarily difficult like this. you have a counter word for chopsticks and stuff
@8P3ths
@8P3ths 5 ай бұрын
ye measure words go crazy
@MultiDryder
@MultiDryder 5 ай бұрын
This is a good intro for people who have not heard of the counting numbers concept but it does deserve a full lenght video that I am looking forward to see in future
@OrionKaelinClips
@OrionKaelinClips Ай бұрын
Besides learning Kanji the counting is definitely one of the most maddening things about japanese!
@DyadintheForce
@DyadintheForce 5 ай бұрын
You're such a pleasure to watch lol
@haruthepotoato
@haruthepotoato 5 ай бұрын
And i was thinking i knew japanese 💀
@nerdygem8620
@nerdygem8620 4 ай бұрын
When I learned about counters I lost my mind (again lol), but now I find it kind of fun - I love sorting things into categories 😂
@Kioti8589
@Kioti8589 Ай бұрын
"I thought it's flat"😂 exactly me trying to learn!
@guilhermeteixeira7095
@guilhermeteixeira7095 5 ай бұрын
Not to mention one of the most confusing counters: DAYS
@danielantony1882
@danielantony1882 4 ай бұрын
は? ああ、that one? ついたち・一日 ふつか・二日 みっか・三日 よっか・亖日 いつか・五日 むいか・六日 なのか・七日 ようか・八日 ここのか・九日 とおか・十日 はつか・廿日 Yes, I just used 亖 and 廿.
@SyM-Prisoner627
@SyM-Prisoner627 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@danielantony1882Props for using 廿, but how on earth did you type the archaic 四? There is also the distinction between the 3(!) was to say 1 day. ついたち is used for the fist day of the month, いちにち would be the general way of saying 1 day, and いちじつ for literary and poetic use.
@danielantony1882
@danielantony1882 3 ай бұрын
@@SyM-Prisoner627I see. I just saw ついたち more, so that's why I used it. As for the archaic Kanji, I actually just found them on the internet, where archaic Chinese Hanzi are collected, and put them in my IME, both PC and Gboard on mobile. I just thought that 4 is a no-brainer, so I used it, then there's other cooler stuff, which I don't use as much. 十 - じゅう - 10 廿 - にゅう - 20 卅 - そう - 30 卌 - しゅう - 40 百 - ひゃく - 100 皕 - ひょく - 200 𤾩 - とん・とう - 300 Would be nice if we revived and reused them in colloquial or some other contexts.
@SyM-Prisoner627
@SyM-Prisoner627 3 ай бұрын
@@danielantony1882 funnily enough, 廿 and 卅 (which seemingly also has 丗as a variant) still exist, they just aren’t common use.
@inyourfacedragrace
@inyourfacedragrace 5 ай бұрын
Hello🙂Sayaka.. So🍊tangerine is?!?… 😂🤣😂💞😂🤣😂 My head is😵‍💫spinning from confusion, but this is funny.. so ridiculously funny!! I love your humor, Sayaka!! 🇺🇸😂💚💚💚😂🇯🇵
@Scyborg832
@Scyborg832 5 ай бұрын
My man is still at it a year later. Dedication to the rizz.
@zarahmarienunez
@zarahmarienunez 5 ай бұрын
@inyourfacedragrace Si, Sayaka es muy divertida y también una buena profesora 😅✍️🎓
@Yo-dz2ss
@Yo-dz2ss Ай бұрын
Since the start is usually the same I can just progressively learn it through watching stuff.
@seanryan3020
@seanryan3020 3 ай бұрын
I low-key thought she was going to say, "Hah! It worked!" at the end when she caught the fruit!
@tuluppampam
@tuluppampam 5 ай бұрын
Counters (also known as measure words) aren't strange at all: they're used all the time when counting mass nouns in languages (even in English). Japanese (like many east asian languages) considers all nouns as mass nouns, so of course it's going to have a billion measure words. They're the same as saying "a bottle of water" or "a sheet of paper". You are adding a word that makes sense to count to a mass noun, which cannot be reasonably counted (again, like water)
@SusanJERitta
@SusanJERitta 5 ай бұрын
This explanation was really helpful! Still gonna struggle to remember them specifically, but now the concept makes sense at least. Thanks!
@tuluppampam
@tuluppampam 5 ай бұрын
@@SusanJERitta the concept is very easy, the use isn't (as is usual with languages). You are welcome and I am happy to help
@Words-of-encouragement.-.
@Words-of-encouragement.-. 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this, my friend. I will remember it when I get to the point of actually learning counters.
@MisterJimLee
@MisterJimLee 5 ай бұрын
Also, you have the fact that the word for one, ichi, combines with the counter word in irregular ways
@tuluppampam
@tuluppampam 5 ай бұрын
@@MisterJimLee that's what happens when words are used near eachother continuously: the word boundaries start to change and one affixes onto the other. And then sound change messes everything up
@vishnumr8252
@vishnumr8252 5 ай бұрын
Ok can you explain why *'Banana'* and *'beer'* have the same counter *'ippon'* ? One is a fruit and the other is a beverage! It makes the least sense I mean shouldn't *'banana'* also be counted as *'Ikko'* same as for *'tangerine'* ?! 🤷 Edit: Ah I didn't the pinned comment😅! It explains that it's based on the outer shape of the objects. But the *'ikko'* one is still pretty vague. Still confusing as hell😓!
@sergiom3988
@sergiom3988 5 ай бұрын
Exactly! Maybe because of the shape?
@joshdaniels2363
@joshdaniels2363 5 ай бұрын
@@sergiom3988 Basically, yes. 本 (hon or ほん in hiragana) is used to count long objects. This can be things like pens and pencils, but also neckties, trees, bottles, belts, flutes, etc.
@vishnumr8252
@vishnumr8252 5 ай бұрын
@@sergiom3988 ah yes, actually I didn't see the pinned comment which elaborates on the counters 😅
@vishnumr8252
@vishnumr8252 5 ай бұрын
@@joshdaniels2363 got it thanks😁
@jawstrock2215
@jawstrock2215 5 ай бұрын
To specify, it's the can that is "ippon", not the beer itself :)
@blackspiral_1126
@blackspiral_1126 5 ай бұрын
I'm 82 days into learning Japanese with Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone, and I just love how helpful your videos are. Thank you so much for making funny too 😂
@muhummadsaad215
@muhummadsaad215 2 ай бұрын
The way she says thanks for watching in japanese is amazing ❤
@Tempestan
@Tempestan 5 ай бұрын
And they say English is difficult.
@carultch
@carultch 3 ай бұрын
English has these as well, they are just less common. Like "a *pair* of shoes", or "a *sheet* of paper". Think of them like units to accompany the number.
@Mantylowo
@Mantylowo 5 ай бұрын
Remember, English also has counters, just not for the same purpose ! One slice of pizza, one bowl of rice, one stick of butter
@GoldenMechaTiger
@GoldenMechaTiger 5 ай бұрын
One one one
@erikkarlson5902
@erikkarlson5902 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that is not really the same. Try one tablespoon of butter, one bowl of butter, one pat of butter. I don't even understand the concept of counters truthfully as they seem wildly unnecessary and confusing, but I am pretty sure what is being expressed in this video is different that units of measure or other nouns attached to quantities in English.
@pickk90
@pickk90 5 ай бұрын
The only thing I can think of for english that's kind of similar and was confusing at first is: A vs An. It's a purely grammatical concept that doesn't translate to other language
@deanvandijk9670
@deanvandijk9670 5 ай бұрын
@@pickk90 "Few" vs "Little" also comes to mind, but that's not really counting, and also way more regular/rules-based
@lookitskazzy
@lookitskazzy 5 ай бұрын
Sure, but we can also just say "one ____" in English and nobody is gonna pedantically correct you for not using the specific counter. That's the difference
@Mallowigi
@Mallowigi 3 ай бұрын
It drove me so crazy when I started learning Japanese, but now I'm fine with it. There are like thousands like this but nowadays you only gave 20 or so
@Entropy_____
@Entropy_____ 5 ай бұрын
As someone whose mother language is Cantonese, it understandable for different counters that are confusing, as we use counters as well and sometimes mix them up cuz it’s speaking not writing
@mugwortsoupwhat
@mugwortsoupwhat 5 ай бұрын
Basically similar with A *piece* of paper A box of donut etc
@JakeDotMp3
@JakeDotMp3 5 ай бұрын
As a native Chinese we have counters as well. Being familiar, when I learnt Japanese, I just had to relearn the counters and it was easy, cause I had a concept.
@andrewprahst2529
@andrewprahst2529 4 ай бұрын
Thanls for thanking me for watching the short. People don't usually appreciate that so much
@PinkMawile
@PinkMawile 3 ай бұрын
One of the neat things about counting words is using them with copious amounts of artistic interpretation
@jesperwillems_
@jesperwillems_ 5 ай бұрын
These always seemed impossible to me, but after living in japan for a while it starts to make sense! it just sorta starts to feel 'right' which one to use
@jzn5664
@jzn5664 4 ай бұрын
Fr, I am learning N4 now and the counters they taught in N5 was such cba and I gave up memorizing them and focus on grammar and vocab
@basil_sunflower99
@basil_sunflower99 3 ай бұрын
omg yea😭 it was so hard to grasp at first and tbh im still learning counter suffixes as in like trying to remember all of them, but it gets easier with practice! once you write/speak a lot you kinda get used to it ☺️
@xBoBox333
@xBoBox333 4 ай бұрын
oh my god the bwoink sound awakened something deep inside me after not playing ss13 for like 5 years some things are just never forgotten
@Preschool4yo-7yo
@Preschool4yo-7yo 4 ай бұрын
If so I will do Japanese When more coming the time I should acquisite. Thank you❤ Sensei, I appreciate all the proper examples[ex(?)] helping comprehension.
@Passion84GodAlways
@Passion84GodAlways 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing this with us! 😀
@MusicLoverGurl
@MusicLoverGurl 5 ай бұрын
This entire video was me in college learning counters. I just gave up on that lesson, lol.
@chloecheah4036
@chloecheah4036 5 ай бұрын
Imagine a collab with the French guy and the whole skit is just an argument about which language is more confusing 😂
@tsundereyoongi3869
@tsundereyoongi3869 2 ай бұрын
When my teacher started explaining this, I nearly walked out of class 😂😭😭
@bmo3778
@bmo3778 5 ай бұрын
I used to br frustrated when I started learning this, then I realized my language also have counter words. But at least mine doesn't change the numbers with the counter! 😅
@Meianju
@Meianju 5 ай бұрын
Oh my days!! I didn't know they were that many more to learn. Thank you!
@PotatoGurlSasha
@PotatoGurlSasha 5 ай бұрын
The confusion of her character's face reminds me the video of a mom confused sbout sight words she had to teach her kindergarten due to covid.
@garey_0435
@garey_0435 3 ай бұрын
I remember when my Japanese course got around to counting classifiers my brain just could not keep up.
@oda6721
@oda6721 3 ай бұрын
This reminds of my tribe language Apatani where we have different counters for numbers, spherical objects, flat objects, fingers, person, currency notes, animals, stars, houses, firewood and bundles of firewood. (Yes, individual firewoods and bundles of firewood both have different counters.)
@lazybonesxp
@lazybonesxp 2 күн бұрын
Hillarious video =))), thanks! BTW, every language has its complications. I remember how English drove me crazy with all its tenses(after just 3 ones in my native Russian) and with such an alien(for me) concept as articles. Good luck also with memorizing all 9000000 possible endings of Russian words, with verbs of motion or with the fact that ear has a neutral gender, strawberry has a feminine one and nose is masculine ))
@furowowo
@furowowo 5 ай бұрын
We also have counter words in Malay, it's called penanda wacana and its interesting to see this concept in other languages
@nomaddamon100
@nomaddamon100 3 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, it was the weirdness of counting that made me want to learn Japanese
@internetmovieguy
@internetmovieguy 5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! These are my exact thoughts while learning japanese!
@FreckledTM
@FreckledTM 5 ай бұрын
And here i thought i was grasping counting to have to be completely re-educated
@Skyuni98
@Skyuni98 3 ай бұрын
now i understand my friend's struggle when learning our language, especially the counter. massive respect to her for working so hard on it though 🎉
@kyokajiro1808
@kyokajiro1808 5 ай бұрын
thankfully i learned chinese as a kid so this concept is quite straightforward to me
@ianistomin8737
@ianistomin8737 5 ай бұрын
This one small video just disintegrated my big dream of learning japanese someday, just rendered out of this reality completely... Thx for saving my time though! 🙏
@biikih1641
@biikih1641 4 ай бұрын
And then you try to count rabbits and your brain literally explodes
@popularspartan
@popularspartan 5 ай бұрын
What if someone used just the numbers themselves without the indicator after? What is the reaction like? Thank you for making these videos, I always learn so much from them, and get even more curious about Japanese!
@noseboop4354
@noseboop4354 4 ай бұрын
It will sound extremely unnatural, to the point that the other person might not understand at first. At a minimum the person should use the generic counter (一つ、二つ、…)if they forget the appropriate one. It will sound childish but at least it's comprehensible.
@popularspartan
@popularspartan 3 ай бұрын
@@noseboop4354 thank you so much for explaining, I genuinely really appreciate it! I'll use that if I forget but I'll keep doing my best to learn! :)
@ricdelacruz3778
@ricdelacruz3778 4 ай бұрын
Haha I really enjoyed this watching you Sensei keep on going to make video 😅
@mamodokod4613
@mamodokod4613 15 күн бұрын
I know these! Like satsu for like books Hon,bon,and pon for long things, tsu for general counting
@nerv007
@nerv007 4 ай бұрын
I remember ordering beer at a monja place in Ueda with no Japanese skills everywhere. The number thing confused me when using translation app because when I stopped using it, I kept saying ichi only. This is confusing, but it's like learning irregular verbs in French
@viedemofumofu
@viedemofumofu 4 ай бұрын
Back when I was in college our japanese teacher used the "Ippon demo ninjin" song for the counter lesson. 13 years later and I still know the words to the song, it really helps memorize the basic counters. Even in general listening to children's songs is really great for memorizing vocabulary easily.
@gamechep
@gamechep 5 ай бұрын
One weird thing about 本 is not all cylindrical objects use this, like baguettes are just things so one loaf would be hitotsu, 2 would be futatsu etc.
@user-fi4rq4ci8s
@user-fi4rq4ci8s 5 сағат бұрын
TANGERINE AND BANANA IN ONE FRAME!! A VOCALOID REFERENCE HAS BEEN NOTICED❕❕❕🆘🆘🆘
@maxkanefield3775
@maxkanefield3775 6 күн бұрын
This is about where I gave up on learning Japanese too 😂😢
@captainidiot4301
@captainidiot4301 24 күн бұрын
Makes sense that the counter for books and beer are the same. Both make you wiser the more you ingest!
@Crediblepaco
@Crediblepaco 4 ай бұрын
"That makes sense to me"- Patrick
@laurentbergeronmusic
@laurentbergeronmusic 5 ай бұрын
The "hon" thing makes sense when you realize that "books" way back when used to be scrolls. So that's why its a counter for cylindrical things like beer cans and bananas.
@casakaiser
@casakaiser 4 ай бұрын
Well it makes sense until you discover that 本 can also count things that are not round at all. Like “clinical trials”
@Emilmarch
@Emilmarch 5 ай бұрын
😂😂 I love her videos, literally my frustration of counting in Japanese.
@user-lm7ir9eh4k
@user-lm7ir9eh4k 5 ай бұрын
I was totally expecting a flat chest joke Guess my mind is too dirty 😂
@Theunsuccessfulperson
@Theunsuccessfulperson 5 ай бұрын
Sayaka always gets me entertained and ready to learn
@thaliaesquivel8547
@thaliaesquivel8547 5 ай бұрын
I love your content thanks for this
@Ana10780
@Ana10780 Ай бұрын
As a judoka when you said "ippon" I tought you talked about ipon soe naggé prisis 😂
@spoonhoa6886
@spoonhoa6886 4 ай бұрын
shes amazing.. and shes so good at teaching
@KingSaheb0079
@KingSaheb0079 5 ай бұрын
The edge of that bridge looks nicer every day lmao 😂
@Neobot21
@Neobot21 5 ай бұрын
Here I am, thinking "I'll learn Japanese, it'll be fun!" I just learned I can't even count flat objects.. I'll be saving this and coming back to it every so often. Thanks, Sayaka!
@Tvianne
@Tvianne 5 ай бұрын
I feel this in my liver… as in "japanese counting system makes me want to drink"
@alexperts5929
@alexperts5929 3 ай бұрын
Love your style
@3lfprinc3ss
@3lfprinc3ss 4 ай бұрын
this is how i feel all the time when i speak istg-like atp i'm basing my counter off of memory for that specific word😭
@shadow__dancer
@shadow__dancer 5 ай бұрын
Yeah this is where I hit a wall when I was learning Japanese.
@user-pj3sn2dy2q
@user-pj3sn2dy2q 3 ай бұрын
As i told you before you are good teacher😮❤❤❤❤😂i kept it in my mind really😊
@KillerDoh
@KillerDoh 5 ай бұрын
Why did you pour the beer like that, that shit hit my soul
@zingiberae
@zingiberae 5 ай бұрын
She poured it perfectly fine. Just walk away while your pants are still clean
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