Beat My Turn 0 MTG Deck, Win $100 Challenge

[@SpectreXS]

I don't know what's more impressive, the rock-paper-scissors deck interactions or that you've found the first format where gaining life is a winning strategy.

[@AngelusNielson]

In brawl it's a great one considering that there's no commander damage loss.

[@phoenixgemini42]

@@AngelusNielson plenty of modern white cards also have good benefits when you gain life, so there is that as well. In a limited card pool it works

[@diox8tony]

the gain life win con was always to deck your opponents, hidden mill strat confirm...just imagine a WU lifegain-mill themed combo.

[@andrewvarcoe4741]

Sigh, ok life gin decks have lost the whole idea of gaining infinite life....the opponent concedes as you recycle grave and up life total to inifinty....no attacks needed just uber life gain.

[@AngelusNielson]

@@andrewvarcoe4741 You can't gain infinite life. You are required to give a specific number when you're doing something like that and "infinity" isn't a choice. It has to be measurable.

[@superstandardman]

I love not only you had an answer to your deck, but an answer to the answer to your deck

[@colint92]

20 simian spirit guide and 40 surging flames. Mull to 2 ssg and ripple through your deck 2 damage at a time at instant speed with dross or shoal on the stack.

[@linkXness]

That could spark another deck. Leyline of sanctity and a 2/3 Vigilance.

[@onetwothreeabc]

​@@linkXness Use the surging flames to kill any 2/3, then hard cast simian spirit guide.

[@matthewradabaugh1635]

@@linkXness you literally only need a hexproof.

[@glupshitto5019]

that doesnt win 100% but this does: 1x Flash 1x Manamorphose 1x Reclaim 31x Contract from Below 3x Elvish Spirit Guide 2x Street Wraith 1x Thassa's Oracle contract from below is removed before the game starts and you are left with the perfect 9 for 100% win

[@mikotagayuna8494]

I would probably just play you with a deck of Lotuses and Sharazads. It won't win but it will damn sure waste a lot of your time until you decide that losing the $100 is a small price to pay for you to move on.

[@johnny_crash]

You'd still need Leyline of Anticipation to do that.

[@haggleboggle]

@@johnny_crash 25/25/10 seems good enough IMO

[@mutantcube1737]

@@haggleboggle perhaps, but it opens the deck up to random chance

[@ReyosBlackwood]

except when would you play any of that? this is a turn 1 upkeep win, and all of those are sorcery speed plays. I suppose leyline of anticipation as a good chunk of the deck along with your lotuses and sharazads could work, but ugh...

[@ReyosBlackwood]

@@mutantcube1737True, but you only do need one of each, so under current mulligan rules you can see 5 hands of 7 looking for them, each one with a 75% chance of a leyline (at 10 copies) and a 98% chance each of Lotus and Sharazad (at 25 copies) and multiple sharazad could be stacked in the same (sub)games. That said it wouldn't waste a lot of time like Miko thinks, since each subgame would just be a T0 dross win too and take a minute or two.

[@moreplease394]

The fact that buying this deck from CK costs under $50 is wild

[@eliamagri7413]

Not with the side tho

[@professorgvd]

You could play 3 frogmites in your memnite deck without the possibility of drawing too many and not being able to play them! A hand with all 3 frogmites and 4 memnites still gets to cast everything for free and you get 3 more power (wow!)

[@NeoSlith]

Sprinkle in some Myr Enforcers and Frogmyr Enforcers for a little extra power.

[@fpawluszmtg]

This is one of the most entertaining MtG videos I have seen in a really, really long time. This was a delight, you are awesome Nikachu!

[@NikachuMTG]

I one day aspire to be as awesome as you.

[@seilaoquemvc2]

Hahaha that was amazing. Magic as Richard Garfield intended

[@phantompop3192]

Nikachu normally: 😇 Nikachu today: 😈

[@RodrigoCML7]

Man you really dialed the KZbin persona up to 11 for these one. Loved it. Felt very appropriate 😂

[@SwampFoxTV]

What a great video. I always love when a main channel upload hits, keep up the great work!

[@NikachuMTG]

Hey, thanks so much! 😊

[@Loren_Law]

I really love absurd uncharted territory formats like this. A few years back Arena did a special draft event that I loved where you had a starting and max hand size of 3, but all spells cost zero mana. It was a legitimately fun and interesting and competitive format as long as you could accept that some games you would lose turn one with no answers.

[@filipebotelho3548]

Dude, that was awesome!!! Looking foward to more Challenges videos!

[@maxfailmezger5219]

The chancellor of dross deck can beat the nourishing shoals by adding a 1 of worldspine worm of their own to not deck and a surgical extraction to remove the opposing worldspine worms. Of course, then the shoal deck likely will bring in a surgical of their own and a redundant shuffler like emrakul to beat it, so idk

[@TWD66]

The comedic value was off the charts. Also props to all participants involved. This is a metagame in progress

[@WillRennar]

[draws opening hand] [reveals all 5 pieces of Exodia the Forbidden One along with Venmo info]

[@franciscojaviercampos3672]

Awesome video! Im waiting for the next Nikachu challenge!

[@halla1rw]

Magic can be both stupid and amazing at the same time. This was fantastic! 🤣

[@johnconnor7249]

Nikachu, I've said this before but I'll say it again. I don't even play MtG but I love watching your videos, the way you talk about the game and everything that goes with it is hilarious, fun, and very entertaining. Thanks for making some fun, engaging and honestly insightful videos on a cool game!

[@filipebotelho3548]

Same here. I used to play like a decade ago... Now I just enjoy watching fun MTG channels and Nikachu is certainly the most entertaining!

[@AngelusNielson]

Don't start up again, WoTC is full-on "must appease Hasbro with another billion-dollar year so we need to drain consumer's money" mode.

[@timonkeys]

Same here man. I don't play MtG, but I just love Nikachu's videos.

[@Chen1791]

You are so creative in your MTG content creation!

[@Miserycordya]

This is the kind of glorious content I keep coming back for!

[@emperornapoleon6204]

Really awesome video, Nikachu! This content is a blast. It inspires brewing in the frontier realm of Freeform. My list: 10 Flash, 10 Protean Hulk, 10 Elvish Spirit Guide, 10 Gemstone Caverns, 5 Disciple of the Vault, 5 Phyrexian Marauder, 10 Pact of Negation Maybe 10 Leyline of Sanctity in the SB for game 2 against Dross and similar decks before a bait and switch back to the main strategy in full for a quick game 3 win.

[@josephmozena7640]

That deck can never win on the play. Gemstone Caverns only taps for blue mana on the draw, so there's no way to cast Flash unless you're on the draw.

[@emperornapoleon6204]

@@josephmozena7640 Correct, but it doesn’t have to. Having the play is irrelevant against Chancellor, so the key thing is beating them with Leyline in game two and tricking them into a bad sideboard in game three. Glass cannon, sure, but the whole format is - which is cool! Also, you can win on turn zero with the deck by just choosing to take the draw. You can actually outrace the triggers.

[@josephmozena7640]

@@emperornapoleon6204 There's no reason to sideboard though if they can choose the draw game 3. Nothing in the deck can convince the opponent that you can beat them on the play against Chancellors. Some amount of Manamorphose gives you outs to actually cast Flash on the play alongside Spirit Guides. You could also run a bunch of Summoner's Pacts to tutor up Hulks to reduce the number of Hulks and increase the number of Spirit Guides you have access to. Theoretically, it's actually better to run way more than 60 cards so you don't actually end up drawing any of the Disciples/artifacts, and having a bunch of pacts would allow you to bump up the number of Guides so you'd reliably have access to two mana in order to cast Manamorphose. I'm sure there are other useful pact targets for some niche scenarios as well. Of particular interest would be something that could find Flash, but I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

[@emperornapoleon6204]

@@josephmozena7640 fair enough, I take your points. It is an interesting archetype for the format! You could use Mystical Tutor to find Flash if you have some cheap card draw, but that requires Manamorphose or Caverns on the draw.

[@glupshitto5019]

heres a better version: 1x Flash 1x Manamorphose 1x Reclaim 31x Contract from Below 3x Elvish Spirit Guide 2x Street Wraith 1x Thassa's Oracle all contract from belows are removed before the game starts and then you have a guaranteed turn zero win on the play or draw.

[@colgatelampinen2501]

24 Ancestrall Recall 8 Black Lotus 7 Leyline of Anticipation 1 Thassa's Oracle ez clap

[@seilaoquemvc2]

loses to FoW.... hahah but still.... this one can whiff sometimes, and when it doesn't it's very likely the strongest deck out there. just take one ancestral recall out and run Pact of Negation or something to protect the combo, and you probably have a 100% unbeatable deck

[@alain1639]

@@seilaoquemvc2 or replace oracle with tendrils.

[@seilaoquemvc2]

@@alain1639 tendrils targets.... it loses to Leyline of Sanctity.

[@duanedeal7139]

We’ll still minimum deck size is 60 this is 52 and I’m expecting the mulls to be terrible for this deck

[@colgatelampinen2501]

@@duanedeal7139 Minimum deck size in free form is 40

[@x12721]

If you open up this challenge again, I'd love to show you how I'd beat this regardless of sideboards

[@glupshitto5019]

how do you go about it? i found this solution that wins 100% regardless of turn order and sideboard: 1x Flash 1x Manamorphose 1x Reclaim 31x Contract from Below 3x Elvish Spirit Guide 2x Street Wraith 1x Thassa's Oracle

[@NHTYSYX]

Lmaoooo when you said the vintage deck entering against a nuclear bomb!! 😅😅🤣

[@corey2232]

Yaaaay! Our Praetor overlords have finally blessed the channel with a new Nikachu video! 🙌

[@MageSkeleton]

i would do 15 Memnites, 20 Chancellor of the dross, 10 Nourishing Shoal, 10 Worldspine Wurm, and 5 Force of Despair. Running the 10 Worldspine wurms is literally just so you draw any of them with a Nourishing Shoal.

[@gitstoopid]

Nourishing shoal was my first thought

[@hansonchen7722]

switch those memnite to a turn one win combo like black lotus + ancestral recall + walking ballista

[@irishsakura1]

That is hysterical!!! So broken. I love it!!🤣🤣🤣

[@Hobby_Technology]

I tried thinking of a strategy that beats the Dross on the play or the draw, and I came up with: 30x Simian Spirit Guide 15x Manamorphose 17x Stifle 62 cards in deck so with the Manamorphose draw it still beats the dross deck after we both draw everything Unfortunately, even this strategy is helpless against the memnites

[@blackknightjack3850]

The answer to this riddle is running a deck where half of it is Elvish Spirit Guide and the other half is Healing Leaves. It's not like this is a new riddle or anything. This has been known for like a decade now.

[@nutwit1630]

Its like you're evolving different habitats and niches in real time. I hope this format gets super popular for the creative meta.

[@SwedeRacerDC]

Not what I expected, but I'm not aware of the freeform format. That was fun!

[@NovaCyn]

1 thassas oracle 20 ancestral recall 19 manamorphose 20 Elvish spirit guide. The idea is to pitch guides, use manamorphose to make the mana blue and ancestral through the deck. Since manamorphose also draws you should be able to have mana for oracle by the time you're through? I think the odds are decent here

[@vega1252]

So Arnak won the challenge, you owe him $100. Sideboarding a new 60 cards makes it a new deck so. Congrats Arnak.

[@UnsocialChimp]

My thoughts exactly. It’s so annoying. Beat my DECK not DECKS.

[@games-wz7sz]

A deck includes its sideboard

[@games-wz7sz]

​@UnsocialChimp only 1 deck. A sideboard is part of your deck. The format just allows for unlimited sideboard. Not his fault if you didn't know the format you are playing

[@tristanclark288]

DEFINITELY make more videos both this content, awesome

[@coledavidson5630]

The infinite sideboard thing might be the craziest part of the whole ruleset bc of that RPS factor, it all comes down to just predicting which deck your opponent will bring in lol

[@AshenHawk96]

I'm sure you could do some stuff with a massive stack of Simian Spirit Guides and ritual spells. Basically have all the mana you need for instant speed things, use looting/exile-play/draw effects to dig and specifically ones that generate as much or more mana/cards than you're putting in (or Manamorphose which replaces itself 100%, also Jeskas Will is also good for both roles unless you're facing the lifegain Wurm deck), and then finish off with a massive Grapeshot. Wins before the Chancellor triggers resolve, before Memnites get a turn, and kills even over the potentially 45 extra life that the Worldspine Wurm deck gets if you stack the deck tall enough.

[@glupshitto5019]

this is much easier: 1x Flash 1x Manamorphose 1x Reclaim 31x Contract from Below 3x Elvish Spirit Guide 2x Street Wraith 1x Thassa's Oracle contract is removed before game starts and guaranteed an instant speed win after that

[@ztustsing]

How would one of those vintage Leyline turn zero do with the unlimited copies. Counterbore and Quash? Or personally if I had a Leyline of Anticipations I’d combine it some massive mana combo, Guile and Dovescape. Maybe cards like Repudiate//Replicate and Trickbind. Or leyline both Anticipation and Combustion, lotuses and a bit of life gain to do Channel with Fireball.

[@Blarsen780]

This guy sure has mastered the side-deck plottwists! He's a real Memnite Shyamalan.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

This was one of the best vids I have watched in a while.

[@DDPMonster]

My immediate thought went to flash hulk style deck. It might be less consistent but you should be able to win with the triggers on the stack with spirit guides.

[@MaximumImpactGames]

how do you make the blue mana?

[@skillganon606]

@@MaximumImpactGames gemstone cavern enters on turn 0

[@MaximumImpactGames]

@@skillganon606 you'd need hulk, flash, cavern, spirit guide, and another card to pitch for cavern, but even that, the only flash hulk combo I know needs the combat step

[@skillganon606]

@@MaximumImpactGames you get disciple of the Vault and a bunch x cost artifact creatures that die as they etb. The coolest part is it's actually a real deck that was run in legacy. To fight this no rules deck you'd probably switch to 12 Leyline of anticipation 12 black lotus 12 Flash and 12 hulks and the normal payload.

[@DalekOverLord101]

I think there’s a combo of duskmorne cards where one (whose name I can’t remember) whose ability is; “whenever a creature enters the battlefield each opponent loses 1 life” and the other is an enchantment that will deal half of the enchanted players health (rounded up) as damage to themselves whenever any other damage is taken. I think this deck would get burnt out on that combo, but then again this requires turns to get mana

[@apolux359]

impact tremors or witty roastmaster

[@Aaarrrgh89]

40 Elvish spirit guide, 10 Repudiate//Replicate, 5 each Worldspine and Shoal.

[@dragonslayerdragonslayer]

Leyline of Sanctity is one way to prevent the effect from going off and also have a monster in your deck as well

[@bud8254]

Nope, dross doesn't target.

[@vinwonsenobi]

When your sideboard is just 2 other decks. I would just play an instant win strategy and in response to chaellor triggers win the game.

[@danielquigley2695]

I can't believe there's actually some semblance of Metagame.

[@snyggejygge]

This is old, when Chancellor of the Dross was first released, people built this deck, then came Nourishing Shoal to beat it, you can build a classic Fire ball Lotus & Channel deck with as few as 10 Shoals to beat this deck all the time. Its fun however that there's actually some kind of meta to this format.

[@thisissostupidqsdfva]

Love the alarm🚨 "THAT'S BROKEN!"

[@morgandicandia8681]

Hey what about the deck with simian spirit guide and the ripple spell?

[@seilaoquemvc2]

you can beat that with leyline of sanctity or leyline of combustion.

[@morgandicandia8681]

@@seilaoquemvc2 I know, I thought Nika would mention that lol

[@kevinmcknight5000]

I think the best way to go about this format is to just have a small package dedicated to not losing to things like chancellor of the dross and then you are free to do whatever with the rest of the deck. I am sure this is not the best thing you can do, but you could run a deck of, say, 10 nourishing shoal, 15 worldspine worm, and 35 black lotuses with the idea of playing the worldspine worm for your win condition while being immune to decking and having lifegain. Ultimately, I think you will end up with two combo decks playing against each other with a lot of counterspells (like mindbreak trap) and a small package of cards to not lose to chancellor of the dross. (As a side note, cards that let you get a card from outside of the game seem like they could be really powerful in this format, as you can literally get any card with it.)

[@aaronm.885]

Seeing as how the deck sizes are also kinda small sometimes, you could have a 7 card deck, turn 0 Leyline of Anticipation, Lotus, Thassa’s Oracle. Or a hand of 4 Chancellors of the Dross + 2 Soul Spike to be fancy.

[@bakaultima]

With the memnite deck you should have put the golem that is cheaper for each artifact and makes all artifacts cheaper then put in coat of arms

[@mtgpackmaster4233]

Why in the mirror match would you loose the 1st then sideboard shouldnt you loose the first, win the second, sideboard and then win the last game?

[@benroberts1052]

this is by far my favorite video you have made.

[@chazmccrea8451]

Would I be able to respond to the first chancellor going onto the stack at the beginning of the first upkeep? I would exile spirit guides, cast manamorphosis to get white mana and then cast angel's grace to put a split second ability on the stack. At that point nothing else can go on the stack and perhaps only one dross would get to go through and it would counter the rest? Then at that point you would just draw until you had enough spirit guides to exile and cast one.. and beat in with a bear until you win.

[@NikachuMTG]

Angels grace won’t stop chancellor draining your life. Your life total would go into the negative, Angels grace would keep you alive for the turn and then you lose on the following turn.

[@typelogin]

That was an awesome challenge!

[@Gasalicious_Records]

Question that I can’t seem to get a definitive answers to: after attackers and blockers have been declared can a protection spell on a selected attacker deselect blockers after they were selected to block?

[@NikachuMTG]

Nope, once a creature is blocked, it is blocked for that turn. All the protection spell will do is prevent damage from the blocking creature.

[@jonasgompel5592]

There was a Frank Karsten article on this about 7 years ago on CFB, something about what would modern look like if you abolished the rule of 4 copies. There are at least 3 archetypes, i think even 4.

[@cleanerben9636]

The fact that you got beat by a guy called counterspell is just perfect

[@tidalheart1163]

Well you just got my sub for this. You clever fellow!

[@renebarahona]

🤣2:07 That reminds me! Does anyone know which video it was that Nikachu compared Fog to a paper towel? I believe that in the same video he said something about bringing a Fog to a gun fight. I can't find that video and I'm starting to think I dreamt the whole thing. :-/

[@zethrenbeltran4071]

Man that was crazy, and this video was well made :D

[@camael4209]

deck getting countered by someone named counterspell is so fitting

[@proteus404]

I run a mono black burn deck in modern, I have won games quickly with 4 Chancellor of the Dross and 2 Soul Spikes in my opening hand. It can be disrupted with force of will or other counter magic. But against decks that don't run counter magic it can win on turn 1.

[@PippinGraham]

Here's how you beat the mirror in with the Chancellor deck while keeping the theme: Play a with 10 or so copies of Soul Spike. It deals 4 damage and gains you 4 life, and you can cast it by exiling 2 black cards from your hand (ei your chancellors). You can cast it in response to your opponent triggering their Chancellors if they go first, which gains you enough life to stabilize, then they have no plan vs you slowing drawing through all of your soul spikes. If they aren't going first, just cast it with their triggers on the stack and that's still enough damage to beat them with your triggers.

[@NikachuMTG]

This is a great idea.

[@TheNextGreenLantern]

Wait, does it count as beating your turn 0 deck if you switch out every single card after it loses game 1? Is this the MtG equivalent of the Ship of Theseus? [This video was hilarious, it just made me think]

[@orian3638]

Some genuinely original and interesting MTG content !

[@commanderzeipher]

Not sure on actual ratios, but Surging Flame/Simian Spirit Guide can win vs all of these, you just kill them in response to the triggers, or even if they gain the max 33 life, you can still present more damage, assuming more then 16 Surging Flames in deck.

[@TheEpicSpire]

back when i used to play, the stack rule was slightly different. it didn't matter whose turn it was. if you played something, then anything that was played in response to it was resolved first. but even then, if i deal enough damage to defeat you, you don't actually die until the end of that step/phase so you could turn around a defeat me and it would either be a draw or you'd gain the life to survive. The way this would have played out back in my day would be.. he would go first deal 21 damage to you, but in response you would do the same. at the end of that resolution you both would be back to 20 {20 - 21 +21 = 20) and then the game would go one until someone decked themselves first.

[@nicolascampoysouto7915]

Hi Nikachu! Do you know why are the using Flooded Strand + Snow Covered Islands on some modern merfolk lists? I am building a manabase and can´t get my head around that. Thanks in advance fish master!

[@NikachuMTG]

Flooded Strand is just a mistake if it's a mono color deck. Snow covered Island is just preference.

[@OddSquirrelGM]

We used to brainstorm this "format" back when we played competitively in the early 2010s. Chancellor is the level 1 strat, but it gets even weirder.

[@ariverrr]

Great concept for video, Love it :)

[@gerald216]

Just like Richard Garfield intended? I never would have thought of this ridiculous win condition.

[@andrewsheiman8574]

2:40 a format that's essentially a competitive coin flip. Congratulations, you've invented Yugioh

[@xxxstindo9531]

What's sad is that's the state of mtg arena right now

[@incredibleflameboy]

Would leyline of combustion work with this? For each chancellor you'd take 14 damage if it triggers but I'm not sure if it would be triggered by it.

[@NikachuMTG]

Chancellor doesn’t target so the Leyline won’t work.

[@brandonbrooks779]

>Begin game with Leyline of anticipation in play >When the dross triggers go on the stack, cast black lotus >sac lotus, Whirlwind Denial all 7 triggers Idk if you can cast a spell at that point but that's the only one that doesn't require a God hand of 7 different cards.

[@collinmustain1718]

As soon as I saw the 60 Chancelors my thought was 50+ Nourishing Shoals and a handful of memnites to not lose through decking.

[@coltonsmith3270]

i lost to the chancellor deck at some random "anything goes" tournament at an anime convention. nobody bothered to explain what "anything goes" meant so i just assumed it meant any set from throughout magic history, and no ban list. i was LIVID seeing those 7 chancellor of the dross. i knew immediately the guy had to have known the "tournament" organizer, because how else would he know to make/bring that deck? fortunately, there was no entry fee.

[@Frank-o7h7h]

There was an old format that had zero limits too and people did play full decks of dual lands and time walk, black lotus, and I am talking about they had 10 or more of each one in their decks, especially the big spenders back before the cards cost several thousand dollars for 1 copy.

[@NikachuMTG]

Yeah, that old format was the first rules to the game :P

[@Frank-o7h7h]

@@NikachuMTG yeah and they would play cards like chaos orb literally how it was worded they would actually destroy the cards it landed on as in they ripped them up.

[@_counterspell]

_counterspell here! ggs and thanks for being a homie deck had 16 chancellors and 12 reanimate spells along with rituals and lands + imps. figured that was a good enough spread to have one chancellor reveal to get game 1 and a fair chance to reanimate turns 1-3 in any other case.

[@NikachuMTG]

Congrats!

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

Super ultra easy to win. My deck: 3 Islands, 1 Laboratory Maniac, 56 Nourishing Shoal. If you have 2 nourishing shoal on your starting hand (which is guaranteed), I wait until you put the Dross Triggers on the stack, then I cast nourishing shoal via nourishing shoal and get 2 life back. Then you only drain 19, then I draw while you can't do anything until I have 3 islands and laboratory maniac and win through deck out. Exceedingly easy to beat.

[@NStripleseven]

*plays memnites*

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

@@NStripleseven you can do that too^^

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

@@NStripleseven Funny part is, I would probably copy the Dross deck if we play the second game. Or I would play a legacy/vintage goblin deck which outperforms memnites.

[@RadicalSpikee]

That's what I call an AMAZING content!

[@politespider1917]

Well with unlimited sideboard you just always win.

[@NikachuMTG]

Well no because I cannot know with certainty what my opponent will do with their unlimited sideboard.

[@politespider1917]

@ 👀 wait. Ooohhhhhh. I see becuase then games already started. But couldn't you just add counters to all your counter? And bring them with you?

[@AjaxDGonzo]

Lol that podracing reference was the best

[@laerbear6760]

Rather than that silliness with green cards, I'd just add 14-17 soul spikes to the main deck.

[@alexross1816]

"Aren't you only limited to four copies?" Relentless Rats: "Rats. We're rats. We're the rats. We prey at night, we stalk at night. We're the rats." Me: "I'm da giant rat dat makes all of da rules!" Relentless Rats: "Let's see what kind of trouble we can get ourselves into."

[@hxcnoel]

When I first started playing mtg, i didn't know about the 4 of limit, so i had a deck where the whole mana base was Glimmerposts. So a deck with 1/3 Glimmerposts, 1/3 Cloudposts and 1/3 Emrakul would be funny

[@NikachuMTG]

You can relive that deck in this format!

[@Yetinokles]

I kinda doubt that this format has a strictly best deck, the possibilities are just endless if players have large enough collections. For example I'm fairly sure that a healthy mix of nourishing souls, endurance, green black lands and golgari charms +1shuffle graveyard into library tec could beat both nikachus 3prone approach and the chancellor reanimator strategy. But would certainly lose to other things.

[@seilaoquemvc2]

8 Leyline of Anticipation 30 Ancestral Recall 1 Timetwister 1 Pact of Negation 1 Thassa's Oracle 19 Black Lotus I think that this is pretty much unbeatable. at least consistentlly.

[@Yetinokles]

@@seilaoquemvc2 atleast it sounds good enough to put the game in a complete sideboard guessing game, as it still most of the time looses to like 10leylines of anticipation 44 chalice of the void 3 forests 3 nimble mongoose.

[@electra_]

After seeing this, I've been thinking about the possibility of an even more powerful version where you're able to select your starting hand, effectively taking out all the RNG. Both players would likely play Leyline of Anticipation and be trying to turn 0 combo on top of each other on the stack. Not sure exactly what the ruleset would be. Is a 7 card deck allowed? Can we still use 60 copies of the same creature, or only 4? Would you be able to select your entire starting deck, or only your opening hand? One way to think about it could be that you're playing normal rules for your deck building, but you get infinite mulligans (so you can basically just mul til you get the right hand) and thus you effectively get to choose the starting hand. However, I feel like the format would be more interesting if you could also order the rest of your deck - It would mean that it would entirely be in the hands of both player's strategy, rather than having topdecks ever matter. With no restriction on card # or deck size the first idea that came to mind for me is player 1 playing 5x pact of negation, 1x lotus, 1x thoracle with player 2 playing 4x pact of negation, 1x leyline of anticipation, 1x lotus, 1x thoracle, with one more pact of negation in the deck player 2 would win if it ever got to their turn by drawing a card and thus gaining card advantage. note that if player 1 played leyline of anticipation they would actually be losing because both sides would be even and whoever played combo first would just get played on top of, thus people would keep passing. But here, player 1 has enough counterspells to beat player 2. However, if only 4 copies of a card are allowed, things become more tricky. You can't run 5x pact of negation, and running force of will is bad since you lose card advantage. Of course with 60 card decks, this might end up being irrelevant, as you'd need to play more than a 1 card combo anyway. The most interesting way to structure the format would probably be either 60 card decks of any cards at all with full deck order selection in mulligan phase, or 60 card decks with vintage rules with full deck order selection in mulligan phase. you'd probably just run a 15 card sideboard, but i think a lot of games would be handled without even needing the sideboard, as you could completely reshape your initial hand to use entirely different cards based on the matchup.

[@HSchultzZA]

Bubble hulk should sort this out in turn 1 or 0...?

[@0ViciousV0]

Shoulda used impervious greatwurm! Gain 18! Or16? I cant remember 😂nice video

[@Metatronius-n3z]

I would probably do something like 10 leyline of anticipation, 22 black lotus, 23 wheel of fortune, 1 emrakul, 1 blossoming calm, 1 angel's grace, 1 cling to dust. Might want to workshop it a bit more but that's my plan.

[@Metatronius-n3z]

Throw in a surgical extraction for good measure

[@okgut2033]

Chancellor of the Dross + Soul Spike (drain you can put on stack to not die also can be removal)+ Surgical Extraction (exile cards with same names) would have been my choice, but i don't know how to distribute the right amount for those cards to guarantee drain to death also the green lifegain deck still wins. ofc the hardcounter is Leyline of Sanctity. but that needs something to work around.

[@reallygoogle5481]

You can play, i suppose, play about 10 copies of simian spirit guide, 45 copies of mana morphose, a few ancestral recalls, and a grapeshot. some pact of negations in the sideboard. EDIT: and because i forgot, a flash for thassa's oracle for the lifegain deck. Win the game turn 0.

[@terakhanthis]

Requires playing second, but... Gemstone Mine. Two spirit guides, type irrelevant. Teferi's Protection. Start the game, your chancellor triggers stack. In response, exile the two guides, tap that land, and cast the protection. Life total cannot change, and you have nothing you can do for the rest of the game.

[@duanedeal7139]

Can’t since this still happens to get that hand you’d need 3 simian spirit guides,1 manamorphose and 1 teferi’s protection which maybe u could mull into if u have 30 spirit guide 20 manamorphose 10 protection

[@rickp46]

Dude, that format is cool.

[@mr.voidroy6869]

Tbh this shit reminded me hearthstone taverl brawls where you can only pick 2 cards but it fills your deck with 15 of each.

[@FlummoxTheMagnificent]

Can someone explain how the Memnite strategy works?

[@NikachuMTG]

I'm going to constantly attack with Memnites every turn and my opponent won't gain enough life to survive.

[@FlummoxTheMagnificent]

@@NikachuMTG ah. It’s just an easy card to spam down and attack with?

[@NikachuMTG]

Yes, and every turn I attack for more. Turn 2 I attack for 7, turn 3 I attack for 8, then 9, then 10, then 11, etc.

[@FlummoxTheMagnificent]

@@NikachuMTG how would that work? (Sorry, I’m not familiar with Memnite)

[@NikachuMTG]

@@FlummoxTheMagnificent Memnite is just a 1/1 for zero mana. S I play my hand of 7 Memnites (7 power total) for free on turn 1 and keep playing a new 1/1 every turn.

[@XYGamingRemedyG]

So does this program just give you every card to use from the get go?? Cause that's what I'm looking for: the Edopro of MTG.

[@NikachuMTG]

No. However you can rent the cards for a monthly subscription from Manatraders. Borrow any cards, return them to borrow any others; essentially having access to all the cards. I have a link and coupon code to this service in the description.