Nike Invincible 3 after 100 miles

[@KeepItTiny]

hold on their partner - we NEEEEED that video on how to combat plantar fasciitis. Or just give me some tips below. I have started to incorporate single leg workouts into my gym routine and think its helping a bit.

[@SagasuRunning]

Working on it. Finished the the final draft last week. Just gotta record it now. So it’s coming. I will say there is no magic bullet and what worked for me may not work for everyone. I’ll tell my story though.

[@richardfrench5409]

I put off buying a pair for ages. Finally gave in and I absolutely love them. I use a runners knot and I get a great lockdown. It’s great for long runs, easy runs and daily miles.

[@SagasuRunning]

Runners knot and all the eyelets...for most any shoe. These especially benefited from that.

[@amaanislam]

these shoes are amazing and i’ve really thought about buying a second pair just for everyday use to run errands and etc

[@SagasuRunning]

If they work for you they really are quite amazing. I agree... 🤙🏻

[@Hana_shorts8436]

Thanks for making the great video, after watching your recent videos, i have purchased Invincible run 3 this week. I'm excited to go for a long run this Saturday. Thank you!

[@SagasuRunning]

I hope you enjoy and it works for you! 🤙🏻

[@TheMassif]

I’m now on my second pair of Invincible 3 and I agree with you, I love them. And funny enough I got the same wear on the lateral midfoot, which I never got in any other shoe, I’m a forefoot striker and usually I burn the outsole just under my toes. I thought long before getting a second pair because I usually like to try some new shoes, but the full Zoom X rotation has been working nicely for me that I really don’t want to try anything else

[@SagasuRunning]

Ya, the I3 has a massive lateral heel flare. It inevitably hits the ground at some point. This is a great shoe for sure. A much better update than most give Nike credit.

[@Skjoldborg8]

Would be great to hear your point of view on the Invincible 3’s, especially now that the Zoom Fly 6 is soon out, and the remoudered Vomero Plus (invincible 4) is nearing. Do you see this spot of invincible 3 being the “go to long run trainer” being challenged by other Nike shoes in the near future? Or what’s your take on that?

[@SagasuRunning]

This shoe will be eclipsed by the Vomero 18 and Vomero Plus, without a question. Which one depends on your preference in feel. The V18 will be a bit more sedated and traditional the VP will be a bit more bouncy and dynamic. The ZF6, doesn't factor into this at all...

[@Skjoldborg8]

Thanks again @SagasuRunning for your reply! That makes sense, and hope you are right with them eclipsing the IR3. I guess it’s because you factor the ZF6 as a tempo shoe that you don’t factor this in at all. But maybe I’m just doing my Sunday long runs wrong then. 😅✌️

[@SagasuRunning]

@Skjoldborg8 Ya, the ZF6 is a tempo trainer. The only long runs I’d ever consider doing in them are in a marathon build where I need to do a lot of marathon pace…. Even then I’m going to pick a worn in pair of Vaporflys for that…

[@Skjoldborg8]

Okay, so it is a tempo trainer as I thought. But interesting you think you would just go with the VF3 instead. I'm doing marathon training atm, and see me doing that as my prime at least the next couple of years. I feel I need a propper tempo shoe for my sunday long runs, that are around 20-30k. If I could get a pair of the new ZF6 for 200$ or a pair of VF3 for 260$, what would you go with initially? I know the ZF6 isn't out yet, but you know about the durability of the VF3, and if it's capable for "a sunday long run shoe". Maybe a silly question, but I really appreciate your knowledge and expertise. 🙏

[@zoomerrunner]

Would love to hear about your road to recovering from plantar fasciitis!

[@SagasuRunning]

I should have that video out in the first week of October. Stay tuned.

[@zoomerrunner]

@@SagasuRunning Awesome, thanks!

[@KrisP10]

New subscriber from Norway 🇳🇴👍

[@SagasuRunning]

Great! I hope you find value in the content! 🤙🏻

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

I am having plantar so curious how you are managing it. I do find minimal shoe minimise a bit but not.

[@SagasuRunning]

Noted.

[@theinconsequentialrunner]

Great review, thanks a lot. I also had plantar faciitis come on, and it was the Invincible that helped me out, with some morning foot work... which I made a 60 second video on (on my channel) that relieved it. Loving your work.

[@SagasuRunning]

Checked out your PF short… definitely those two things helped a lot… that was the core for sure… though I had a few ways of doing it. I also liked your 10min yoga video… it’s a similar flow to my own. 👍🏻

[@Ryan_Tinney]

Any rehab videos would be great.

[@SagasuRunning]

Noted!

[@stevros48]

they did a new colourway in these here in New Zealand ,just recently I tried some on in us 10 and 10.5 , I was shocked how bad the heel hold was in the 10.5 considering I have a pair of Alphafly 3sin 10.5 and don't have a fit problem at all in them. I felt like I was swimming in the 10.5 size , wondering if the heel is the same in the zoomfly 6 ? Ben Parkes mentioned this as a dislike too. I want to order a zoomfly 6 from overseas but unsure what size I should go with? I was lucky with the alphafly fitting my foot well.

[@SagasuRunning]

The ZF6 has a very different heel and upper material. Very different shoe and not the same issue at all.

[@stevros48]

@SagasuRunning Hey Chris thanks for quick response ... So do you reckon I should go 10 ? I seem to fluctuate between 10 and 10.5 in many shoes in different brands ... Some have said the zoom fly 6 toebox is pretty tight ... Only an issue for me if I hit some long runs in it

[@SagasuRunning]

@@stevros48 I went TTS in the ZF6, I do find the toebox on the narrow side with moderate volume. Basically the ZF6 is closer to a race fit than a training fit, IMO. Length seems on par with any other Nike trainer I’ve run in this year.

[@stevros48]

@@SagasuRunning ok so I fit the alphafly really well in a 10.5 so just go with that for the zf6 ?

[@SagasuRunning]

Yes

[@darkknight17]

I'm wondering if I should buy two pairs of Pegasus 40s (I love the colours) so I can alternate when one pair needs a wash, or should I get a pair of Invincible Run 3 for alternate days? I am trying to learn running but also improve my daily step count. Also, did you have any sizing issues? I found the toe box perfect on the Pegasus 40, but felt the Invincible Run 3 was slightly tight in the same size and my toe hits the top of the shoe. Thank you!

[@SagasuRunning]

I’d buy two different models of shoes, alternate the training stimulus on your feet and legs. Also since you are new to running it will help you learn what you like trying different shoes. I went true to size in both the Peg40 and Invincible 3. The Peg40’upper is more accommodating than the Invincible 3 , which would explain the fit. Another shoe to look at that is good for walking and running is the Infinity RN 4. It’s a great fitness shoe for both activities and is very rocketed and soft. If you do try this one go up AT LEAST half a size, possibly even a full size.

[@tomc0240]

What socks are you wearing in these? I bought a pair yesterday and my heel won’t stop stop slipping. I’m afraid I’ll have to take them back. I have the invincible 2 without any issues with the same running socks

[@SagasuRunning]

I always use Nike Spark lightweight no-show socks. Google “runners knot”, it likely will help with heel lockdown. Also the I3 takes a few runs for the upper to loosen up. Watch my first video I3 (50 mile review) on my channel for more as to why…

[@parzival5282]

I just got hold of a pair of Invincible 3 and planning to run a marathon with it in 2 months time, not going for any PBs but would like to finish the race hoping the max cushion will ease my ankle which is still recovering from tendinitis. based on your experience with the shoe do you think its feasible to run a full marathon with this shoe? thank you

[@SagasuRunning]

Honestly, it could be a back idea. With ankle issues, it not about cushion, in fact you want less...you want stability more. That will protect and help you ankle. The Invincible 3 is not the most stable shoe. If you want cushion and stability maybe take a look at the Asics Novablast 4.

[@parzival5282]

​@SagasuRunning thank you for your inputs. I will look into the Novablast 4 shortly. Cheers 👍

[@mackiechang]

did that plantar video come out?

[@SagasuRunning]

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[@livegreatalways]

I have the Invincible 2 and really love it. But experienced heel slippage in the Invincible 3 so it was a disappointment and the pair also got heavier. Did you feel the slippage? It's kinda thin at the heel areas.

[@SagasuRunning]

Zero heel slippage issues… even when fresh out of the box. A runner knot lacing helps if you haven’t tried that yet.

[@FeDeBelga]

Thanks for the in-depth review on the I3! I have been running in the Asics Nimbus 24 for the preparation of my first marathon but I'm looking for something bouncier/more cushioned for the long runs (+20K) and the marathon race. Would the I3 be a good choice or should I stick with the Nimbus?

[@SagasuRunning]

The I3 is an ok choice but if this is for marathon training specifically and long runs…. You want the Asics Superblast.

[@FeDeBelga]

@@SagasuRunning I know, I watched your review on it 😬🙉If only it wasn't so expensive! (can get a 50% reduction on Nike)

[@SagasuRunning]

Then the I3 is your shoe!

[@mtimbroims]

Rehab video ? Thanks !

[@SagasuRunning]

I published my PF video about 5 weeks ago. It’s there now.

[@sadisticD]

Definitely yes on the Planters Fascitis. I'm enjoying this shoe so far and I've been a Pegasus guy for the last two shoes. The Peg 39 just really let me down. The outsole wore down so fast and the midsole just went flat.

[@SagasuRunning]

I had very good wear in the Pegasus 39/40 outsole, but the Invincible 3 outsole was mixed. The waffles wore down quickly but after than it was solid.

[@katsuhikomakiba]

Very good review. I am also looking for a replacement pair of shoes for my Invincible 2. I am not yet decided between Invincible 3 or something like New Balance SC Trainer or even Elite. What would you chose and why? I am looking forward for your opinion on this. 😊

[@SagasuRunning]

I honestly can't recommend anything from NB. The last interesting shoe they made was the Rebel V3 and that is nothing you are looking for here. Obviously, I would opt for the I3. I have two videos explaining it in-depth. That being said it's not exactly a direct path from the I2, it doesn't have the same feel. The only shoe I've had on recently that reminds me of the I1/2 is the Asics Nimbus 25... it's not as bouncy but has a similar vibe. Additionally the Asics Superblast also has that same bounce, though it takes more work to get it there. Best advice I can offer.

[@katsuhikomakiba]

@@SagasuRunning I've been watching all your videos on I3 and most likely I will try them as a replacement for I2. They really look like an improvement, evolution. Thanks, I appreciate your reply!

[@SagasuRunning]

@@katsuhikomakiba they really are in all ways. I can’t stress that enough. Thank you for the support! 🙏🏻

[@iamJOHNVER]

What are your thoughts about this one vs. Vomero 17?

[@SagasuRunning]

Very different rides. The I3 is bouncy and much more rockered. It can be a handful to run in if you’ve never run in a shoe like it. The V17 is a more traditional ride but still very plush.

[@iamJOHNVER]

@@SagasuRunning Thanks! Would you recommend getting the Invincible 3 if you already have Vomero17

[@SagasuRunning]

@nightfall9880 Honestly, no. They do the same thing. Just differently. You don’t need both.

[@barburrito5130]

Great video as always! Found these for around 95$, is it worth it? Current daily trainers are pegasus 39s.

[@SagasuRunning]

Decent price. Especially if you like big bouncy shoes. Definitely worth a try.

[@SUKHUMVITSOI12]

Do you think its a good buy right now at $115? Thanks!

[@SagasuRunning]

If you like a big and bouncy shoe, the Invincible 3 is a good choice, especially for that price. There will be a new version coming out soon, this fall or the spring, it is unclear.

[@Jbgopro]

any changes to your opinions after 300 miles?

[@SagasuRunning]

I’m not running in this shoe anymore. There are better options out there. If you like ZoomX in all its bouncy glory… this is a great shoe. If you don’t it has a limited shelf life after a hundred miles or so. I’ll see what happens with the Invincible 4.

[@nefitru]

I know a lot of people like these shoes and I wanted to like them because I think they look fantastic, unfortunately they didn't work for me. The heel was slipping bad and midfoot felt super tight, it was weird, perhaps they could have worked with some time to break in but I just didn't want to wait.

[@SagasuRunning]

Ya, they may have fit better after they molded to your foot. I do think the heel is a bit too minimal in these and I was thinking some people could have heel issues. I never have heel issues in any shoe though. The other thing is the eyelet chain is so long that a runners knot would solve most heel issues. But a too tight midfoot is something that won’t change.

[@JS-Treadmill-Running]

Great video again👍. you are so extremely good at going into detail in your videos which I like a lot. I hope it doesn't matter that I mentioned you in one of my little videos🤔. My channel gets almost no views😱😁. The most important thing about KZbin in my world is that you share good knowledge😀. that's why I mentioned you in one of my videos🙂. But as with so many other things, we humans are very different. I love Invincible Run 1-2. Have many of them. Have run about 2000 km in them. All my data is on Strava. Invincible v1-2 is a great shoe for me. I have both run a small ultra race in them 60 km. I know many say they are not fast. But a new pair with fresh ZoomX is actually very fast for me. 10 km in 37 minutes. Of course not as fast as a carbon shoe. I know several people who train extremely hard. They spend many of their hours in shoes such as the Invincible or the New Balance supercom trainer. The shoes help to make them able to train more kilometers per week than before. But it is important to vary your shoe choice. So that you don't strain the body and the foot in the same way

[@SagasuRunning]

Thanks for the shout out. I’m a new channel too. There is lots of room here for all of us to grow for sure. I come from a minimal shoes or racing flat background. I have always preferred lighter, more nimble shoes with good ground feel. It is why I like the Streakfly so much. It’s such a unique shoe being as low and flexible as it yes yet so soft. That being said, as a masters marathoner, I accept the recovery is vital to me now and running in a softer shoe that helps my legs, like the Invincible 3 is important for me now. That being said.. rotating shoes is important. I have a bunch of upcoming videos covering training and racing rotations or pairings from Nike, Asics and Adidas… stay tuned. Thank you for the kind words as always! 🙏🏻

[@JS-Treadmill-Running]

@@SagasuRunning I'm following along. But not to be nice, but because I like your content 💪. Believe me not every shoe KZbinr likes me😳. I speak my mind. I have a hard time with those who have a channel with lots of sponsors. I live in Denmark. The biggest shoe KZbinr in my country. Is sponsored by a company. I wrote a post yesterday which was deleted. I just think it's a shame when you have a channel that reaches so many. Not taking advantage of the opportunity to share but knowledge as an example. When there are offers on shoes. Yesterday it was some Nike ZoomX Zegama Trail 80% OFF plus Nike Pegasus 40 50% OFF at another Danish company. I just think people should know so we could get more people out of running in some shoes at a reasonable price. with my post was of course deleted. I also run before a lot in minimal shoes. But in 2018 I had a very serious accident. Have a brain injury now. Back then I was training for a double Ironman. So have probably worn out more pairs of shoes than most. Do you know the New Balance Rc 5000. Here is just a little video.kzbin.infoXDs-jDL3i8A?feature=share Not to advertise my channel. I am well aware that my little channel is not at all on the same level as yours. I don't have the same skills as you. I just love running and doing tests. Have done it for many years

[@charlietwotimes]

I'm a Nike shoe hater + have been since the 80s (they just don't work for me & personally I think they're ugly as sin) but I make an exception for the Invincible 3. Fantastic shoe. In black/fuchsia.. those washed out "men's" colors still make me barf 🤮

[@SagasuRunning]

We all have our preferences and aesthetic tastes. I rather like the color way of I3s I had in this video. Reminded me of a old Nike Waffle Racer color way I had way back in the 80s.

[@ajayg9077]

i hate this shoes, i got this, ran 5 k, and gave it back, the upper is like plastic and massive heel slip, no matter what i do, the only nike shoes that is good is their super shoes like vapourfly, alphafly, nike fails to compete with other brands in the daily trainer category due to lack of innovation, nike only for race days

[@SagasuRunning]

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this shoe. The beauty of running right now is every brand is making good shoes and everyone can find what they prefer and like best. 🤙🏻

[@mousemaing81]

Nike let you return them after you ran in them outside?

[@ajayg9077]

@@mousemaing81 it was a flat road run for 5km, i just used a brush and cleaned the outsole and gave it brand new, u can do the asme for all new shoes, run for like 10km on flat roads, not too much wet roads, dry areas, and clean the outsole after and return, they wont know what happened

[@ajayg9077]

@@mousemaing81 i did the same for asics superblast , ran 1km on it, long run and gave it back, im sure all do that, just clean them porperly so that they loook new

[@ajayg9077]

@@mousemaing81 and yes, make sure to tell them u havent even used it, haha, they want be able to tell anyways