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[@stephenrobinson4449]

Really love the ZF5 . Much negative commentary about it but for me, it's just amazing! So comfortable. no hotspots , handles a selection of paces and distances with ease. Traction is great!

[@mrjamestiu]

Totally agree. Almost annoyed watching reviews of it online because they're almost all negative but it's actually one of the most comfortable shoes I've ever run in.

[@meancheeto]

Will this be suitable as an easy/recovery run trainer? I currently have the deviate 2 for daily and Streakfly for tempo runs

[@stephenrobinson4449]

@@meancheeto Could perform that role I guess , although it seems to suite faster paces. Maybe look at the new Vomero 17 or strangely even the Structure 25. The Structure 25 has a new blend of new Cushlon and I have found it very comfortable and not overly structured (so to say). Vomero 17 has a blend of ZoomX and Cushlon ...waiting to try it for sure.

[@meancheeto]

Awesome, thanks. I tried the vomero 15 but it didn't last past 150mi due to outsole bulging on right shoe. Maybe I purchased a dupe. I did enjoy the softness and cushioned foot bed while running in them. I'll have to try out the structures. I had a pair over 10 years ago when I started running and do recall them being really supportive. They were a little bit clunky but served it's purpose

[@stephenrobinson4449]

@@meancheeto I tried the S24 and it was a bit clunky the S25 seems much better (so far).

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

I find when we score a shoe I think we need to assess did it serve the intended purpose. To say outsole is too much for the liking is quite subjective. If the shoe is design for durability the shoe should have sufficient outsole and i agreed strategic placement. Not all shoe should be design to be lightweight.

[@simonrunc8067]

I think I read somewhere that it is only zoom x scraps encapsulated in an SR02 carrier foam. Have a great day Seth👍

[@51mpson]

i was looking for a long-run shoe recently and was tempted to give the ZF5 a go despite struggling with the ZF3, but opted for the vomero 16 instead - cheaper and fresh zoomx not scraps

[@doctordentistesquire]

Happy days! 😊

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

[@louismoore7823]

Zoom fly 5 very mistaken, i think the weight is supposed to be heavy in order to make legs stronger so therefore when you out a light race day shoe on (vaporfly) you can then feel faster and running becomes

[@tomcat1319]

I was hoping when they changed from React foam to Zoomx foam the Fly 5 would be lighter. However that never happened.

[@Cellularsurfer]

Have a great day Seth

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

You too!

[@griffinmillette8731]

Commenting now with Skyward X out. Heavy shoe with plate!

[@RobertHarridge]

I have over 50 miles in them, and I love them. It uses ZoomX scraps (not fresh ZoomX) with SR02 (it’s Cushlon, everyone) as it’s structure. I think weight would have gone down if they used fresh ZoomX (No glue). Otherwise, it’s a smooth ride. It’s not a fast shoe, but unless you’re an elite or Sub-elite runner, this may be a better option over a super shoe just because it’s better at slower paces, and much more stable. It’s a smooth ride. The other shoe I would compare it to is the Puma Deviate Nitro 2, and I would pick the Deviate 2 over the Zoom Fly 5 just because I feel it’s a better built shoe, but I keep reaching for the Zoom Fly 5 for those long run days. BTW, I picked mine up from Nike for $84 on sale plus a discount code, so for that price, it’s worth every penny.

[@gonzaloespinoza5426]

Would it be good for easy days recovery for my legs

[@gonzaloespinoza5426]

That or the new balance more v4

[@RobertHarridge]

@@gonzaloespinoza5426 I’d go More V4 for recovery days.

[@gonzaloespinoza5426]

Thank u soooo much man 🙏 is it good for long runs

[@meancheeto]

​@@gonzaloespinoza5426did you ever try the ZF5?

[@Stevenc1984]

Spain really impressed me in the Euros 2020(in 2021) against Italy, but it'll probably be France vs Brazil.

[@josiahmatson4457]

Have you tried the Adidas takumi sen 8 yet? reckon you wouold love that shoe

[@mombug4451]

Seth, I’m confused as to why you would choose the New Balance shoes over the Nike when NB is heavier and more expensive (all the reasons you didn’t like about Zoomfly 5). First time commenting but I just wonder what your reasoning is. Love your channel! Love your family! ❤❤❤

[@Bhov713]

Psst there is no reasoning 🤫

[@lorenzoquirante8685]

It might be because the NB does what the zoomfly is trying to do

[@ghost-writersDACH]

seth "another one bites the frost" moor

[@Wizardscobra]

How many miles did you put on this shoe?

[@robbyfeinstein2173]

Not very many 😊

[@thespacetime]

This shoe is misunderstood. I only use this shoe if i dont want to be injured. Plated cushion shoe. Its for casual running that protects your feet, your ankles, your achilles. 41mm stack height. It just protects your feet. Not for racing

[@koalaboyTT]

Since the zoomfly flyknit Nike has been downgrading and ruining what was a great shoe, it was a vaporfly 4% for the mortals, but v3, 4 and 5 were/are not.

[@BMEvans33]

This is a composite midsole. Zoom X on the inside and some carrier foam on the outside. The durometer score is an invalid for a shoe like this just like in the saucony xodus ultra review you did.

[@RobertHarridge]

It uses ZoomX scraps glued together, then cut to form, and surrounded by SR02 as a carrier foam… which is a fancy term for Cushlon because Nike won’t admit the very old and dated Cushlon is better than React. It’s a similar concept to what Nike did in the Vomero 16, except the Vomero got fresh ZoomX in its core. But because the ZoomX scraps are glued together, it not only added weight to the shoe, but the ZoomX doesn’t have the same feel as the Vomero or the Invincible, but it is better than the ZF3 and 4.

[@chillin70483]

Can you do the Pegasus turbo ??

[@meredithjones8593]

Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving!

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Yes indeed Meredith!

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

same to you! Happy late Thanksgiving

[@loflog]

Alphafly NEXT% is often on sale for lower than this

[@RobertHarridge]

You can pick up the ZF5 for under $100 from Nike with their promo codes. I picked up mine for $84.

[@ricodelavega4511]

i'm watching the copa mundial. Qatar vs Costa Rica will be in the final, one for the ages.

[@ajmartinez1906]

Thank you for your Review as always. I wonder how much different would this shoe be against the Zoom Fly FlyKnit fk?

[@mathieudube6907]

I think the zoom fly series has run its race. Version 2 (zoom fly flyknit) are by far the best release of the series. If they can't make a better shoe over the next 3 versions the series is dead.

[@ajmartinez1906]

@@mathieudube6907 I thank you for your information. I truly miss the version 1, worked great for my 2 mile military test. So hard to find a good replacement

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Good question!

[@stephenrobinson4449]

It is a far different shoe from that in reality (in my view) . I love it though. Wouldn't race it it as one could the ZF FK though. But for training it's just sublime.

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

One positive thing about the Fly 5 is design is a nice looking shoe but not comparable to their conpetitors

[@ItsYaBoi888]

True it is a great looking shoe

[@steliosstylianakis1774]

Spain , France, Brazil are the favorites but Spain vs France will probably be the final round.

[@smellysam]

Cagliostro and Bartovia.

[@calumwatson348]

I’d say Brazil vs Portugal

[@skruflex7290]

I have about 150km in the ZoomFly 5. And i still don't like it. It's heavy and very hard on the step for me.

[@christopheraubrey2040]

It is going to be Belgium vs France

[@robbristle5642]

A NIKE BRICK !

[@ChirsRichardson10]

Outside of racing shoes, has Nike fallen behind New Balance, ASICS, and Saucony?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

I’d agree with that assessment

[@ChirsRichardson10]

@@SethJamesDeMoor What do you think they need to do to get back to where they were or to compete against the brands mentioned? Weight, performance, outsole coverage? Just trying to think of things you have mentioned in the past. Thanks so much!

[@ericwhite80five]

If Saucony can nail their top racing shoe then Nike is going to be in big trouble. Just with respect to trainers, Saucony is eclipsing Nike in my opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@seanbolger7371]

I've just purchased the Peg 39s on the Nike sale, have never run in Nike before but they only cost 54 euros here in Ireland so I think I've done OK. Are they a better shoe than the Zoom fly 5??

[@royahoy8655]

@@seanbolger7371 if it helps I have the peg and don't like it. Such a boring dull ride. React needs to be replaced soon by Nike.

[@nikospes7153]

Brazil vs France

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

The Boston 11 is much better shoe, lighter and more reactive and more durable and stable to! The zoom fly is not a bad shoe but i think is under sauconys, new balance and adidas offers!

[@dominicsiu4419]

Hi Seth, how does the durometer works?🙇🏻‍♂️ QD: have watched few World Cup matches, I guess final would be Argentina VS Spain and Argentina wins, because Messi only missing a World Cup champion😎

[@geert7177]

so far very disappointed in the quality of play. probably has to do with the lack of preparation for most countries because of the strange time of the year theWC is held. For the moment it looks like France against Brazil (and Brazil wins this time). Maybe I missed it but how did Joseph do in Thailand?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

Interesting. USA vs England a good example, or....?

[@SethJamesDeMoor]

today

[@user-lc4sb9hl3m]

Brazil England

[@edumelo1373]

Brazil

[@dewaynescott5114]

This shoe has strayed so far off course its original intent that it isnt usable. Ie it was suppose to be goto shoe for the folks who couldnt jump into the vaporfly. Dark days ahead unless Nike can get this shoe back on course.

[@hectorguzman6122]

🇧🇷 brasil 🇧🇷

[@AlanskiNation]

I won't buy this shoe and i just bought the ZoomX Vaporfly Next%2 and i also have two pairs of Niks ZoomX Invincble i just love this shoe.Brazil and France in the final😉

[@hestickney]

Spain v. France

[@ericwhite80five]

I feel like Nike seems to have become lost in the clouds with respect to their trainers. It’s almost like they don’t listen to their consumer responses and reviews. I enjoy the Next% 2 for racing but outside of that Nike has been a big disappointment for me.

[@over1498]

They rest on their reputation and hope people don’t notice they’re actually pumping out the cheapest garbage possible. I mean this shoe is literally filled with garbage, and they spun it like a good thing 🫣

[@ItsYaBoi888]

Yes, all that is true but... It's Nike 😅

[@andrewwright3676]

England v Brazil in the final……Come on England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Mmmmm maybe not but we’ll have a better idea when we get to the knock stages

[@runningman4459]

No final for England until they find somebody who can take penalties 😅😅😅😅

[@royahoy8655]

I reckon the final will be between Liverpool and spurs and Liverpool winning 4-0

[@wyleekyote2247]

Brutal suction cup on bottom of shoe. It sucks. Returned after 10 miles. Junk

[@sergiogomes8035]

Brazil v France the 97 revenge!

[@jas0609]

Cringing while watching this video.

[@royahoy8655]

Why?

[@Bhov713]

Because Seth put maybe 7 miles on these and is giving them a full review?

[@ericwhite80five]

QOD: I watched the USA vs Wales game. I don’t know anything about soccer nor do I ever watch it, so seeing a game end in a draw and it being a championship tournament game at that, was very strange to me. I think when playing towards the final championship game, no game should end in a draw and they should have a clear cut winner after each game to move up the bracket.

[@royahoy8655]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ericwhite80five]

@@royahoy8655 lol…I’m sure I sound ridiculous but again I know absolutely nothing about the sport haha

[@royahoy8655]

@@ericwhite80five some of the best games I've watched Eric have been draws😀

[@ericwhite80five]

@@royahoy8655 oh it was nail biting for sure, but I think a shoot out as a tie breaker would be intense and leave you on the edge of your seat! Lol

[@royahoy8655]

@@ericwhite80five nooooooo🤣

[@aidanpendlebury2078]

Just a weird 'no man's land' shoe, a bit of everything to everyone but nothing perfect to anyone 😂

[@bobbyrockets7566]

What happened to your face?? Got bruising?

[@bobbyrockets7566]

@Andy G what! Lol I stop watching for a bit and he gets frostbite haha. Serves me right 🙄

[@edwinpepito1498]

$40 this price only make this shoe better and good. Above that price its not worthy at all what a bad shoe.

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

I think that nike is loosing ground in the running industry this year! Their shoes be ome heavier, expensive not very durable, by the way Adidas is winning the battle this year Boston, Chicago, London, New York, World Champs, Odesur champs, Venice and Sidney and Mexico City all that races were won by Adidas athletes waering the Adios Pro 2 in two of them and all the rest in Adios pro 3

[@KoIhara]

Seth: why even put a plate in there if it’s gonna weigh SC Trainer: …🥹