The Falcon and The Winter Soldier Episode 2 'The Star Spangled Man' REACTION!!

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Hello Stikker Fam, another strong episode of Falcon & The Winter Soldier... Below are are the links to our full watch-a-long reaction… Patreon: bit.ly/3lUARGA YT Membership: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqXEfWBorbZ-n7s

[@ariyansingh4914]

Reason walker can throw the shield so well without having super strength was explained and shown at the beginning of the episode, he is peak human, his body was even studied.

[@MiamiDagreat]

Isaiah Bradley is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character is depicted as an early product of the United States' Super-Soldier program during World War II and known by the title of Captain America.

[@rampake-1575]

I hope we see in future eps more GSP in action!

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

The same after Sam and Bucky left Isaiah's house is what black men experience everyday , and is straight up racist that the pigs ask Bucky if he was okay but it happens over and over with black people and we know that if Sam was white and he was talking to Bucky the same way the pigs wouldn't even bother them

[@EK_Beast]

Isaiah is a super soldier that was created during the Korean War hence 1951 being referenced. He was used secretly during the Korean was and then was hidden under ground in Prison by Hydra and this was experimented on.

[@noahcoriarty1759]

"That was the bad guy from the winter soldier" the winter soldier: "am I a joke to you?"

[@起.承.転.結]

Bucky : "You mean... me?"

[@jbrewerman2]

Correct answer: "Captain America: Civil War". But that's okay. Also, Zemo and Wanda are Sokovian.

[@起.承.転.結]

@@jbrewerman2 That's what they said in the vid., which is fault. S/he knows but s/he's making fun abt here. U get it now?

[@mauriciofreitas1971]

Pierce is crying in his grave, right now.

[@HeniGaming]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kimberlyjeanne9456]

I love that Bucky really is a cranky old man, stubborn as hell and just doesn’t give a shit lol

[@eddiegreencheez]

Imagine if Hoskins went full comics "I'm battlestar but I was "Bucky" before that when I was staging fake fights for Walker"

[@kimberlyjeanne9456]

@@eddiegreencheez I didn’t read the comics 😬

[@eddiegreencheez]

@@kimberlyjeanne9456 honestly neither did I lol I just read about it all on the marvel wiki

[@wandanemer2630]

That's so accurate tho!

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@kimberlyjeanne9456 In the comics, when Walker was made Cap they had Hoskins call himself "Bucky" and dress in Bucky's old costume. Then someone told the comic writer that "Buck" was an old out-of-use racist name for Black Men so he changed him to "Battlestar" instead.

[@rnkelly36]

There is a huge story about black Captain America in the comics. While Steve was in the ice Isaiah Bradley was part of an experiment that used black soldiers to create a new super serum. Isaiah was the only one to survive. After they used him they put him in prison/observation for 30 years. The young man at the door is Patriot who is a member of Young Avengers in the comics. It will be interesting if they go on with those story lines in the MCU.

[@BichaeldeAngelo]

I think it'd be really interesting to have a seconario where Eli (his grandson) gets shot and Isaiah does a blood transfusion where Eli gets powers because that's what happens in the comics, but with She-Hulk having the same exact backstory (gunshot with Banner blood transfusion) I'm not sure they'll go that route

[@Ugnutz]

We already got Wiccan and Speed and with Kate Bishop in the Hawkeye show you have a third of the young avengers

[@KeithDCanada]

The program that created Isaiah Bradley, also didn't produce the same level of results that produced Steve Rogers. I do believe that while a 'super soldier', he is still only at human maximums for all his physical traits (Not the superhuman levels that Rogers had). These new super soldiers seem to at that point as well.... so I'm curious as to which organization is responsible for their creation. I had heard the name before from the comics, but this was a deep dive I had to research a little when I heard his name in the episode. I had always wondered if there were any other 'super-soldier' attempts after the 40's experiments, aside from the Weapon-X program to enhance mutants, and whatever program produced the Russian ones like Omega Red.

[@Ugnutz]

@@KeithDCanada Someone at Human Maximun as you put is not putting a steel tin through a wooden wall and he took bucky down, Steve was equal with bucky in their fights during the winter soldier.

[@KeithDCanada]

@@Ugnutz Yeah, it's very possible they altered the character from the comics. The Marvel database has this guy only set at human maximums for all his stats. The super soldier serum that produced Cap was lost, and the Hydra version that produced Winter Soldier and Red Skull, I dont think was as effective. Bucky only went toe to toe with Steve because of his cybernetic enhancements. The experiments the Isaiah was part of were not as successful as the original.

[@hbq3000]

I wasn't expecting Isaiah Bradley to show up. He's essentially the original black Captain America that the government covered up

[@Philly2tall]

Original Captain America

[@sersastark]

He's the original Captain America, full stop. He came before Steve. They used his blood to test and perfect the serum formula and that's what they gave to Steve.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Steve Rogers was first cause the idea is that he's essentialy the Nazi ideal of what the ideal man should be that works for the enemy, that helped defeat the Nazies. It's after Steve was put on ice that the goverment experimented on black people to jump start another serum and Isaiah was the only successful subject. Then after something went wrong, he was put in prison for many years.

[@rayquaza_is_da_boi8661]

@@sersastark no he didn’t he was created as a replacement captain after Captain America was frozen on ice he was one of the hundreds of black men that they experimented on trying to recreate the super soldier serum and Isaac was the only one to survive but since he was black at is was 60s they tried to cover up his existence

[@nickcoy2103]

@@sersastark bruh no he was literally after steve the serum doesn't make you live longer he was captain during the 50's and that's when Bucky met him he was after steve

[@MeztliZen]

Bucky made me cry in this. “And if he was wrong about you then he was wrong about me.” The shakiness at the end got me. 😭😭😭😭

[@kaylajacobsen9487]

Me too it broke my heart

[@Joshuavancruz]

Isaiah's grandson is verrrryyy important along with Cassie Lang, Wanda's kids, and Kate Bishop.

[@jordanwindham3804]

I imagine the upcoming Ms. Marvel show will tie into this, as well.

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

Yep yep

[@Ugnutz]

When they brang in Wiccan and Speed and then Kate bishop in the hawkeye show you already have half the young avengers right there alone

[@lombax316]

While not quite comics accurate, given his popularity and similar age group, I say throw Spidey in there as well. It'd be a nice character progression to go from always being the rookie to more of an equal footing with other heroes.

[@richierich7229]

@@jordanwindham3804 Not really. Ms. Marvel is not a Young Avenger, she is part of a group called Champions.

[@HalalRyan_stayingondeen]

That’s Zemo from Civil War. His plan was to create conflict between heroes to destroy each other so he wouldn’t have to do it himself.

[@lepmuhangpa]

Smart move, very original.

[@nonamebxtch]

It’s not because “he wouldn’t have to do it himself”, he did do it himself. It’s just his way of ‘destroying’ them by tearing apart their friendship was more effective than trying to attack them physically like any other enemy would do, also coz he’s not dumb and knows he wouldn’t stand a chance against any of them in a fight anyway

[@atari303]

That moment in the therapy sesh when Sam says "Maybe this is something that you or Steve will never understand" is totally about how the American people would more than likely not accept a black man as the new Captain America. (In fact, it was pretty much exactly that when Marvel had announced Falcon as the one taking the mantle in the comics years ago)

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

It's not the American people it's white people in America wouldn't accept a black man as the new Captain America the same way in 1951 they wouldn't have accepted Isaiah as a new Captain America

[@wandanemer2630]

True.

[@archangelmichael3902]

Well it's also funny how Nikki, Steven, and all other folks who know nothing about John Walker immediately rejected him. He acted as a decent guy from the beginning of the episode and did his best trying to be friendly and supportive, but still everyone are mean as hell. And he is, surprise-surprise, is a white guy. Maybe it's not only about the skin color, but more of not letting the past go.

[@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk]

@@archangelmichael3902 great point.

[@mandalore1089]

@@archangelmichael3902 I think it has more to do with him coming out of nowhere than anything else.

[@sthbmc5963]

Canonically, Isaiah was a part of the recreation attempt - a year after Steve got his powers and Dr. Erskine was killed. Only 5 soldiers survived the testing, but the rest eventually died leaving only Isaiah. The Gov. also executed the Commander of the Army camp they were stationed at as well as the remaining soldiers to keep what they were doing a secret. Isaiah was later captured by German forces after stealing a spare Cap uniform and heading out on a mission alone. When he was finally freed and returned home, he was imprisoned by the US Gov. for his stealing of the uniform to further cover up his existence.

[@ericlopez5218]

damn this is a crazy story and works as a way of explaining why he hasn't been mentioned in the MCU

[@senhowler]

Yeah, Isaiah and the other soldiers (all black) were disposable test subjects, but they would never have allowed a black man to be Captain America. If they had perfected the formula they would have chosen a John Walker to give the serum to and be the new Captain America.

[@oranmcclintock302]

You explained this really well. I hope we see it play out in a flashback sequence. Not looking forward to bullshit reactionary channels like The Quartering calling Marvel Woke once this is revealed clearly

[@BichaeldeAngelo]

I still can't figure out why War Machine (who is literally THE government-sponsored hero if there ever was one) isn't up in this series

[@senhowler]

@@BichaeldeAngelo My crazy theory is that the jackass who presented the "new Captain America" last episode is colluding with or using the Flagsmashers to promote his pet hero.

[@burrichgrrl57]

One of the things that really got me about Bucky while he was talking with Isiah was how much compassion he had for him. Isiah suffered betrayal by the country he swore to defend. He was imprisoned and treated like a lab animal raising the shadow of the Tuskegee experiments, at least with me. His life was ruined. His is rightfully angry and bitter but at least Isiah still has his honor. What they did to him was despicable but at least he was still the same man. Bucky experienced torture also and they took the kind, protective man he was and made him into a monster. Something completely alien to his actual nature. Bucky was left in the end, living in isolation until Steve found him, with shame, guilt and horror at what he had done. He chose to be put into suspension in Wakanda than risk hurting anyone else. Yet despite his own suffering he still had compassion for Isiah. Pretty heartbreaking.

[@toamszkozak8822]

12:00 You don't need super strength to throw this shield. The shield is made of vibranium and vibranium is one of the thinnest metals, and this shield is also aerodynamic, and otherwise this shield has never been subject to the laws of physics.

[@kryssyd2]

Well in the trailers Sam can't catch the shield. It actually knocked him to the ground.

[@toamszkozak8822]

@@kryssyd2 he's learning give him time

[@kryssyd2]

@@toamszkozak8822 I agree with you I'm just saying that it's not easy to do that with the shield. It's also clear to me if he didn't have any super abilities that they have been having this plan that was contingent really upon Sam given the shield back of testing out a new person to fulfill the role as quote unquote cap. However, I'm loving the show how about you? well I guess that's a stupid question cuz I don't think you'd be here if you weren't but I love to talk to people in the comments

[@toamszkozak8822]

@@kryssyd2 yeah I love this show and I can't wait for Zemo and Sharon. And I wonder if the grandson of Isaiah and Torres will become the Patriot and the new Falcon at the end of the series, or if that will happen in future productions

[@kryssyd2]

@@toamszkozak8822 I hope that we do get to see Isaiah become Patriot because it seemed like one division set up space for Wiccan and speed and also photon I think is her name. I could be wrong but I don't know cuz it wasn't clear at the end of WandaVision. It kind of seems like they could be setting up a Young avengers movie maybe. I don't remember sharing was she in the comic books because I haven't read any? I do know who zemo is I caught up on the marvel movies before watching this show because prior to I had only seen Black panther, end game, and infinity war. Now I've seen Winter soldier and civil war which are now two of my favorite movies. I still need to go back and watch Captain America the first avenger and the others. I'm not a fan of Tony Stark so I don't know if I'll be watching The iron Man movies. It's great to chat. Flesh out some theories

[@Rea3443]

The actor playing John Walker - Wyatt Russell - had auditioned for Steve Rogers/CA ten years back

[@catspawgardner3213]

Well he still got to play Cap just a different version of him.

[@Rea3443]

@@catspawgardner3213 Yes :D

[@kryssyd2]

I'm glad he didn't get the part back then

[@catspawgardner3213]

@@kryssyd2 Same here the Avengers movie might've tanked a little the chemistry between Chris, Sebastian & especially Robert Downey Jr was electric. Seeing Chris embody Steve really worked then he dons the costume & shield it's like "Okay this is Captain America."

[@kryssyd2]

@@catspawgardner3213 yeah but I'm here for his chemistry with Anthony

[@stephenwilliams203]

"I guess he can't do this all day." Lol

[@dumpsterdawg]

"I guess you can't do this all day" Love it Steven 🤣🤣👍👍

[@ScorpiusDX]

Isaiah Bradley, in the comics, is from WW2 as well. The US gov't tried to recreate the Cap America super soldier serum and experimented on him. It's a parallel to the Tuskegee experiments during that time, which was a lot more sinister in our history.

[@KeithDCanada]

Yeah, I had heard the name Isaiah Bradley before from the comics, but I had to research it and was kind of sickened to find out it's in reference to real experiments performed in secret by the US government back then.

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

@@KeithDCanada yeah the white American government did a lot of experiments on black people without their knowledge including giving them syphilis and other s***

[@vinylrecord68]

"It's good that he's not trying to be Steve, 'cause you can't be Steve..." But *you* can always be Steven. 😉

[@jessisaac6367]

When John said Bucky is too much of an ‘asset to be kept locked away’ when bailing him out of prison. Oof that got me mad.

[@mirrorman8549]

In the army asset is a common word reference to a great soldier... And I hear it in other occupations too. "He is a real asset to our company" ..i don't think it's a bad word......

[@seanh1321]

@@mirrorman8549 it's because hydra would often call Bucky "the asset".

[@mirrorman8549]

@@seanh1321 I know. It's because Hydra can't call him Bucky.. But JW kept calling him Bucky. And said he is too good of an asset to be locked out. I can see no problem a military guy saying that phrase. If JW kept calling him asset and not Bucky then I would have made that connection. It's just our internal bais trying to hate him and trying to find something to hate him and see him as the big bad.... We have the same bais to Loki. Loki did horrible stuff including invading earth killing innocent people with no brainwashing argument .. But we love him and don't see him as a villain.... (I like him way more than Thor)... We need to fight the bais till something actually happen

[@coreywallace2052]

@@mirrorman8549 who is we? I still hate Loki

[@mirrorman8549]

@@coreywallace2052 the majority loves Loki. .

[@Serenity113]

Bucky pointed something out about Walker and Walker didn’t like that he found a pressure point.

[@jbrewerman2]

I suspect Walker sustain narcisistic injury.

[@Serenity113]

@@jbrewerman2 maybe. His ego was nudged a bit when Bucky said about stuff getting intense. I think he knew right away that Walker feels like he’s way over his head.

[@jbrewerman2]

@@Serenity113 Bucky's aggressive nudging, which men do to men they suspect don't know what they're doing. It's not friendly..at all...and is meant to trip the person up through mental stress. Don't know if Walker is a narcissist, but his response was like that of one.

[@Serenity113]

@@jbrewerman2 that’s exactly it. I thought that Bucky pushed him a little to see how he would react and confirm his suspicions about Walker.

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

My thoughts exactly

[@sonman63]

“I guess u cant do this all day” YESSSS STEVEN I WAS DYING 😂😂😂

[@alvarossauro]

*bucky jump out the helicopter* nikki: BUCKY! steven: he's fine :)

[@anon8079]

'If he was wrong about you then he was wrong about me too' bucky's inner thoughts, him doubting himself when he barely found his personality made me so sad

[@Kidapollo92]

The fact that the cops were coming at Sam then realized he was a “celebrity” speaks volumes about today’s society The experiments isiah talks about happened in real life the Tuskegee studies black people were experimented on with syphilis

[@McVegas2k]

Lol making the reaction rounds huh

[@ANJIN-p4q]

100%

[@Knight121198]

@@McVegas2k yep seen this on a few others.

[@kryssyd2]

But it's also a known fact in US history. So, this person could've known that. It's another piece of the unsavory way us black people have been treated in our US history

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

It was black men who were in the military

[@nirvanaqueens]

And with the Isiah part, in REAL life they did actual test on black men causing hundreds to die

[@jacquettediggs4633]

Yes, the Tuskegee Experiment.

[@uli_612]

I loved Wandavision and you guys were right, this show had its work cut out to be as great but it’s lived up to it so far. This show is amazing, I just want to binge it all

[@thedarkknight2221]

I love how shows like this and Watchmen have the courage to shine the spotlight on these dark chapters of American history. And bringing in Isaiah Bradley aka the Black Captain America was such a genius move. Also Cap did use guns. Just not that often.

[@E-A-Z-Y]

Really enjoying this show. Just want to binge the full season 😫

[@bando3107]

Yup.. but the reason they don't release the full season is because people would just binge it in 1 week and cancel the subscription.

[@divinenb4133]

Sameee

[@divinenb4133]

@@bando3107 oh wow ,didnt think about that. Netflix never did that tho,they actually became succesfull also thanks to the bingewatching becoming a thing

[@ANJIN-p4q]

Disney ripping us off with these weekly episodes.

[@Group836]

@@divinenb4133 yeah, but Netflix also lost money with people sharing their passwords. Which why they are now trying to crack down on that.

[@LeeCarlson]

Bucky said it best when he told Sam "maybe he was wrong about you, and then he was wrong about me."

[@LonestarGA]

Bucky is terrified and scared that he still is the monster that was the Winter Soldier.

[@zomish13]

That brought tears to my eyes.

[@mellowenglishgal]

The way his voice broke when he said it...

[@thewriter2634]

*I liked this episode but the "systemic racism" thing absolutely made me cringe. Black people aren't oppressed in America and I hate that Disney is acting like they are.*

[@LeeCarlson]

@@thewriter2634, I'm curious as to just how many Black people you know? To say that there is no systemic racism requires that you live with your head in the sand, rather than looking at the world around you.

[@merkal7486]

Isaiah is a super soldier created after captain america got frozen in ice I believe, and he's old because he aged normally while Steve was frozen and bucky was frozen on and off again. Also zemo is from civil war not the winter soldier 👍👍

[@kimberlyjeanne9456]

I think he still aged a bit slower than normal, if they met in ‘51 and it’s now 2023... that’s 72 plus whatever age he was in ‘51. So he still looks damn good lol

[@richierich7229]

@@kimberlyjeanne9456 He's over 100 but only like 70 physically.

[@killersalmon4359]

Sam and Bucky are like siblings who are always fighting. New Cap and Battlestar are like the cousins that you never liked, but you weren't sure why.

[@NatashaSalgado]

Zemo was the bad guy from Civil War. Bucky was older because he looked like this in WW2 (1945) and Isiah was from Vietnam War (1960).

[@dswynne]

"Korean War".

[@senhowler]

Didn't Bucky say they met in '51?

[@jbrewerman2]

Yep. Bucky and Steve are older because they were young men in the 1940's while Isaiah was probably either an infant or in elementary school years. What a lot of people are forgetting, though, is that in the MCU the first person to take and survive Erskine's original Super-Soldier serum is...the RED SKULL. Steve Rogers is second and Bucky third. Isaiah, then is the fourth person to take the serum and survive with powers. After Isaiah are the deceased five person super-killer Hydra team Xemo killed in Civil War. Now we have the eight (err, seven) Flag-Smashers.

[@josejim31]

@@jbrewerman2 And finally we have John Walker as US Agent.

[@annabanana7659]

I dunno why but I love how Bucky asked Walker if he ever jumped on a grenade and Walker said he has (four times) with reinforced helmet. Interestingly, Bucky was talking about when the dummy grenade was used but Pre-serum Steve used his own body thinking it was a real one. Walker has his heart in the right place and trying his best but I can empathize with Sam and Bucky's frustrations since I'm attached to Steve lol.

[@shamancarmichael5305]

Walker's buddy gave away his true nature when they were in the locker room when he said "You can't solve your problems by beating people up anymore" Makes me think that Walker has a history of anger management issues that are going to be a problem as the pressure ramps up.

[@misssugartooth5253]

Yes and Walker gave up his own true nature when he called Bucky an “Asset”. If I remember correctly Hydra always called Bucky “the asset” and never by his name.

[@mirrorman8549]

@@misssugartooth5253 people use asset in the army a lot... And even in other occupations... "He is a great asset to our company" ..i don't think it's a bad word or intended in that way... It's an common army word

[@mirrorman8549]

Didn't he say you can't punch your way out.... Not beat people up.... Two different meaning

[@khotunkhan3950]

@@mirrorman8549 yes but saying that word to Bucky triggers something or can trigger

[@mirrorman8549]

@@khotunkhan3950 ...i think Bucky would be alright. He got his mind cleansed in wakanda. He is depressed tho. And he has no purpose in life... I hope he hook up with the Asian chick in the 1st episode so that he wont be alone and she seem nice. Let's hope she is into cute hot emotional broken boomer veteran with a dark past

[@xxxtinoxxx8503]

"I guess you can't do this all day" 😂😂

[@GenomeSoldierDK]

The moment for me when John Walker revealed his true nature was when he pulled a gun out on the top of the trucks in the fight scene. I know he didn't end up killing anyone, but the fact that his first instinct was to shoot someone comes across wrongly. Secondly "don't get in my way" is something a bully would say - something Steve Rogers notoriously fought against. I think they are treating the line really well when it comes to writing this character and I think the actor does a great job of pulling it off as well! Damn I love this new phase of Marvel! :D

[@joits]

And so telling towards the end that he used the police siren to get Sam and Bucky's attention...

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Shooting a terrorist is revealing your true nature? lol They gave him a gun to use it. His first instinct was to do that cause he doesn't have super-powers and he's a soldier.

[@MrMoleHole]

I mean his friend was at risk in that moment, and Johns first instincts as a soldier kicked in

[@johnwalkeristhatdude3018]

Can u give me the link to the first Captain America movie when he wasn’t using a guy on missions I’ll wait?

[@GenomeSoldierDK]

@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 I think there is a difference between being in a fucking warzone vs. pulling a gun on some unarmed teenagers.

[@kennethstevenson4817]

Carl Lumbly is the actor that played Isaiah and he was in a short lived series were he played a superhero call Mantis that aired back in the 90's.

[@darthken815]

Yep, a one season wonder on Fox.

[@wandanemer2630]

Wow, he was great!

[@MisterKS7643]

I love the fact that this episode (or even this show in general) touches on some big issues like mental illness and racial bias. It honestly kinda surprised me how they handle it with such nuance, even in other areas that even the bad guys are not as bad as we think they are and the good guys are not that clean-cut themselves. I can't wait to see what this show has in store for us in the next few episodes.

[@Bald_and_Brown]

How’d it touch on mental illness?

[@MisterKS7643]

@@Bald_and_Brown Bucky and his court-mandated therapy. He clearly seems to have some form of PTSD from his brainwashing. I feel like that scene with the police also shows how he’s still stigmatized as someone dangerous and therefore still getting arrested just because he’s missing one appointment.

[@iamai_iggs]

I love that this show can be enjoyed as an action-packed thrilling adventure for casual viewers, but if ppl pay attention, this show has so many layers and nuance. the writing, the way they approach these subjects and the characters development so far have been stellar.

[@Bald_and_Brown]

@@MisterKS7643 ah yes

[@rostikskobkariov5136]

Steven is the only reactor to recognize the great GSP! Thank you steven!

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Even if I wasn’t a huge MMA fan, he had a dope fight with Cap... such a good scene.

[@rakwraithraiser7315]

Pat from rttv recognized him as well

[@jmhaces]

Sebastian Stan and Anthony Mackie clearly had a fucking blast filming this show. Isaiah is a bit younger than Bucky, since he said he met him during the Korean War and Bucky said last episode he's 106 years old, so Isaiah is probably around 90 or so in this show, plus he was never put in suspended animation like Bucky or Steve, so he aged in real time. In the comics he was part of a group of black soldiers the government experimented on trying to replicate the Captain America Super Soldier serum and one of the few that on whom it kind of worked and survived the experiments, so he was a special ops super soldier during the war and if I remember right he did briefly wear Cap's suit and carry his shield during at least one mission, but it was without official permission and he was jailed for that afterwards. I guess here in the show the reason why he was imprisoned is different, but he kind of was the first black Captain America, at least chronologically. So it seems the show will explore the theme of what it means to be Captain America much more deeply than I thought or expected. As for Walker, he is also from the comics and has been Steve's replacement as Cap at some points though he's more commonly known as the U.S.Agent (I guess a kind of anti-hero version of Cap), but his personality and motivations are not that similar to Steve's, so I guess we'll see how he develops in this show because as you said, though he seems to be honestly trying to live up to the mantle and wants to do his best, he's much more beholden to the government than Cap ever was, which will probably play into a similar theme as the one in Civil War regarding the choice between the letter of the law and the concepts behind the law itself.

[@Gary4106]

10:23 "I love these two" That's exactly what I think about y'all every time I watch your reactions. So great

[@senhowler]

So far we've made it to episode 2 without a "It was the therapist all along" meme.

[@rj86dr89]

I think the sheild does most of the work since its vibranium. That's probably how falcon does so well with it too.

[@ochayethenoo]

It's also 1/3 the weight of steel, as pointed out by Howard Stark in The First Avenger. So super strength shouldn't even play much into throwing the shield.

[@Rocket1377]

Yes, the shield absorbs all impacts, which means it has almost zero wind resistance. Almost anyone can throw it if they are skilled enough, you don't need super strength.

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

I’m officially convinced that this is a movie like wow the weight that this show has the action the humor and realistic situations these characters are put in is amazing

[@guardian35]

"That's not America's chin, either." 😮 OH! Shot's Fired!! 😂

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

"This is why you were chosen. Because a strong man, who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power but a weak man knows the value of strength. And knows compassion ... Whatever happens tomorrow, you must promise me one thing: You will stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier but a _good_ man." John Walker is a perfect soldier. But is he a good man?

[@clarradactyl7791]

“ maybe he was wrong about you, and if he was wrong about you, then he was wrong about ME!” dang, bucky...i felt that. 😭

[@Venom_1462]

Its funny how using a gun is apparently worse than throwing a really hard metal (earth's strongest in mcu) shield at someone's head that could literally break the dude's skull into pieces

[@Quixotic1018]

I love how Bucky is a grumpy old man. I hope he calls someone a whipper snapper this season.

[@jimjimcherie]

John Walker: everyone expects me to be something Me: yes, I expect you to be gone. 🙃

[@clarradactyl7791]

lmao my thoughts exactly.

[@cassandrareed5959]

Lol 😂

[@kryssyd2]

I love when Nikki says "oh bitch." Warms my heart 💗. I'm inclined to believe she's my spirit animal. The running theory is that these flags smashers in any other bad guys are not going to be the villain of this series. Some people believe, which I am also inclined to believe is that, the fake cap and his partner are trying to track Bucky and Sam so that they can get the super serum and inject themselves. Hence they will become the bad guys of the season. It's also a thing that maybe this fake cap is already enhanced with the serum and it's not showing his true capabilities because he has some more sinister plan. If you guys see this let me know what you think.

[@BumpyBaluga]

Hahahah Nicki is the best!!! Steve: "what these dudes taking??" Nicki: "weaponssss" 🤣🤣

[@Citizen88020120820]

Marvel: here John Walker isn't so bad. Me: Nice try, but I know who this guy really is. Final Scene: Ahhh there he is starting to come out.

[@WeAreTheBentusi]

Well, they had to make it interesting....

[@jimjimcherie]

Deadass, Ive been so annoyed since his first appearance. He doesn't deserve that shield.

[@khalduras784]

I mean the final scene can be argued to be just after acumulated stress from getting constantly talked down and broight down by the supes no?

[@TKRaigaGaming]

@@khalduras784 exactly

[@Citizen88020120820]

@@khalduras784 Nice try Marvel. Can't fool me 😏

[@dominiqueodom3099]

This is my first time hearing about a black super soldier connected to Steve Roger's and the Erskine Formula. Fun fact,That's Carl Lumbly aka Martian Manhunter from Justice League/Unlimited

[@Coffeewiththegods]

He says “you can’t solve all your problems by punching your way out of them” which is similar to what I believe Sam says to Steve in civil swat “you sure you wanna try to solve this by punching your way out of this??? Because the same ppl who shoot at you, usually end up shooting at me” I could be misremembering though but I think that’s right.

[@rashadwalker8218]

Liked the meta "good morning america" reference also john walker was interviewed by the lady who was on GMA

[@SergioLeRoux]

They show the name of the program in one of the TVs, he's actually saying the name of the show.

[@KeithDCanada]

I am pretty certain it's not a meta reference.... the interview was an actual taping of Good Morning America in the episode. You can see at the start of the interview you see a tv screen behind one of the cameras and it has the Good Morning America show logo framed around the stage where they are sitting.

[@markcraft]

In the comics, john walker will also go by the name US agent and him and his friend battlestar are more captain America and Bucky in the comics

[@Drummer4President]

“I feel like with RedWing there, it’s like a little piece of Tony” 👀 *ooooh, about that*

[@TimedRevolver]

I think we just saw how Walker becomes an antagonist. This whole episode set it up, then Bucky knocked it down. Walker is so concerned with living up to the Captain America mantle that he's likely going to become more and more unhinged as he keeps falling short, ending with him taking this new Super Soldier formula. The end will probably be Sam taking on the Captain America mantle with Bucky at his side, fighting Walker and leading to him becoming U.S.Agent. The outfit Walker wears as Captain America even resembles the U.S.Agent costume.

[@virtuoso8921]

Steve right now be like: Take that shield off, what are you?

[@MrMoleHole]

First person to receive three medals of honor

[@jbrewerman2]

Pop Quiz: How would the Winter Soldier personality have dealt with the Flag-Smashers on the trucks? *Cue creepy Winter Soldier music*

[@steddy176]

Im glad they shed some light on the injustice towards black people. It’s enough so that people will go on and educate themselves on this issue and as a person of colour it makes me so happy seeing black panther seeing sam nick fury rhodes etc Although I would love to see other ethnic minorities and not just brown people being shown as the taxi drivers takeaway owners or terrorists 😅 other roles pleaseeee I am on team Bucky for this one LETS GET BACK THE SHIELD!!!!!!!!!

[@garretthenderson5738]

Fun fact, in Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Wyatt Russell was the stand in for young Ego, with Marvel putting a a CGI of his dad's face over his own.

[@thepafwaychannel2596]

In reference to the new "'aptain America", @28:47-29:44 Nikki "He's smart and he's strong, he's not... he's just not super smart and he's not super strong." In a nutshell, there it is. Classically put.

[@stevegoing65]

The kid who answered the door is Patriot. His name is Elijah Bradley and is Isaiah’s grandson and inherited some of his grandfather’s powers. That’s eight Young Avengers. Patriot, Kate Bishop from Hawkeye, Cassie Lang from Ant-Man, America Chavez from Dr. Strange, Ms. Marvel, Ironheart and Wiccan and Speed from WandaVision. I expect Hulkling from Captain Marvel and Iron Lad from Ant-Man, since he is another iteration of Kang the Conqueror, who is the announced bad guy in Ant-Man 3. That will be 10 Young Avengers.

[@GoliathWarfare]

John Walker is just like your average politician - has a great smile and says the right things, but when it comes time to deliver, he gets knocked off the truck like everyone else. Also the shield is light due to vibranium, so an average soldier can train to wield it if they're in peak condition.

[@amandadougherty6615]

I remain continually surprised at how many people are saying they like John Walker, and this episode helped show that he’s a good guy. To me, this episode showed exactly why he will end up not being a good guy. He has *way* too much ego. He wants to be the big dog. He “says” he doesn’t want to replace Steve, but he introduced himself as Captain America- to Sam Wilson!!! And Steve never, never would have covertly hacked a colleague’s equipment to covertly track him. That’s exactly the crap he got pissed at Natasha and Fury for doing in Winter Soldier. And he may have saved his sidekick/friend’s life on the truck, but then they bro’d it up, and he acted like it was “so cool, man!” Which is not something Cap ever did- ever. In fact, that would have been so completely out of character. I re-watched the first Capt America movie this week for this show, and, to me, Walker is exactly like the hot-shot cocky guy the scientist specifically rejected to get the super soldier serum. And Walker clearly didn’t handle rejection well. He kept trying to get Bucky and Sam on his side...but not as people who could help. Not as co-equals. He wanted sidekicks to make him look good. And when they said no, he got pisses and gave them a warning. That is class-A entitlement that I think is going to lead him down a dark path. It’s also like...when a guy hits on you, you reject him, and then he gets nasty, which shows you that he’s dangerous. To me, this episode highlighted, albeit subtly, *exactly* why he should not have the shield. I came away absolutely grossed out by him.

[@Bald_and_Brown]

I agree that Walker isn’t a very good guy, and I’m pretty sure they’re setting him up to be an antagonist soon. But just to play devil’s advocate, I don’t think him introducing himself as “Captain America” is an attempt to replace Steve. At this point in the Marvel timeline, “Captain America” seems less like an actual person and more like a title. Which is why Walker said “I’m just trying to be the best Captain America I can be”, he means he’s trying to live up to the title/position that was given to him.

[@amandadougherty6615]

I do get where you’re coming from, and I like that the writers do have material in here that make him sympathetic, but at the same time, he is so entitled about it. Bucky tells him just bc you have the shield doesn’t make you Capt. America, and his response isn’t understanding or like, yeah I’m trying to live up to it, it’s, yeah but I’ve done “the work.” Have you, though? Have you? But I do like how the show seems to deal with him in a complex way that lends itself like this to a devil’s advocate argument, for sure.

[@KeithDCanada]

I know US Agent from the comics so I can see the justifications here.... but just based on what they showed us in the show, I'm not really seeing enough to be 'grossed out' by the guy. Bucky and Sam have been openly hostile towards him for no good reason. To them, no one will ever measure up to Steve as Captain America.... but they never gave him a chance at all. Out of the gate they refused to acknowledge him. As for using surveillance to track Falcon down... S.H.I.E.L.D has been doing that the entire time, it's not a new thing. As Walker said, "I'm not trying to be Steve Rogers, I'm just trying to be the best Captain America I can be"... and the whole boyscout routine was a Steve Rogers thing, and not necessarily a Captain America thing. Gotta separate the guy from the moniker. He's operating under S.H.I.E.L.D's parameters and is more than likely authorized to do things, like track agents in the field... and if Bucky/Sam aren't operating in an official capacity, then they are operating as vigilante's and thus warrant supervision from the government.

[@amandadougherty6615]

Yeah that is exactly what the government said of Steve when he went rogue for trying to protect Bucky when the government gave orders to shoot him on site....and then it turned out that Bucky was innocent. Which...was Steve’s point in not signing the accords. In fact, the government wanted War Machine to arrest Steve when he returned to fight Thanos in Infinity War. Not really a good plug for the government IMO. And as to being grossed out...they rejected Walker and Walker basically took that as if you’re not with me be warned. That just on a personal level drips of a guy getting angry and hostile when you reject his advances. It’s like...they don’t owe you anything. Girls don’t owe guys anything, even if they do buy you dinner. So for him to get like that...yeah no.

[@KeithDCanada]

@@amandadougherty6615 But Bucky & Sam are not working for the government. They have no real authority to go to Germany and carry out an operation. S.H.I.E.L.D is the governing body in these matters that negotiates with the UN and other countries governments to enter their borders and operate on their soil. I'm not even sure how they are allowed to do that... they are US citizens and as far as I understand what Sam said later in the episode about not having all the rules and restrictions Walker does, that they seem to operate as free agents, or authorized vigilantes? Walker is the official new Captain America. His official job title gives him authority over the other two. Hell... Sam has government supplied tech that can see through walls and has military drones with lethal weapons on it.... he is not above the law, and if he is not working for the proper regulative authorities, then I would think some form of oversight would be assumed.

[@tuzori18sage]

On Bucky's "date" in the first episode, he tells the lady that he's 106? years old. He was in his early 20s when he was drafted.

[@earendilthemariner5546]

Endgame and everything after is 2023 at least right? If he was drafted in 1942, thats 81 years between his draft and this. And if he was in his early 20s when drafted, that means its been at least 100 years (unless we know exactly how old he was in Cap 1)

[@bazorkin]

They mention the Power Broker. This was a character in the Cap comics in the eighties and early nineties. He sold people the Power Man Process which gave them Luke Cage level powers. I think the show is re-imagining it as the Broker selling a bootleg Super Soldier Serum.

[@bigwill8145]

He also used a gun in the first Avengers movie on the Helicarrier he picked up a gun that belong to one of the enemy

[@mr.martinez6932]

Ms. Nikki and Sir Steve -- the actress who plays the therapist (Amy Aquino) also has a major role in **Bosch** on Prime Video. Bosch has run for 6 seasons of 10 episodes each & is slated to air its 7th and final season in Summer 2021. And it is fan-flippin-tastic Bosch is based on a series of mystery novels by Michael Connelly (he also wrote the Lincoln Lawyer novels) and the show follows the novels pretty faithfully. The cast is packed with top-notch character actors like Titus Welliver, Jamie Hector, Lance Reddick, Sarah Clarke and many more. If and when you guys find some time to start a new show, give it a try -- you won't regret it O:-)

[@IxumtheNaughty]

Please honor Kari Skogland, the director, she has done an amazing jon with this series!

[@eltravos99]

Captain America didn't need a gun later but he definitely used one in his first movie. A lot. And I'm not a big gun guy.

[@owbln82]

as a german, this looked so real! the autobahn, the signs in blue, the landscape! wow!

[@sidicy]

Everyone is so upset with bucky being arrested for missing his therapy session, that they fail to notice the subtle juxtaposition of how the cops behave. They go after Sam despite him having done nothing illegal, and treats him like a criminal and when they find out that there is a freaking arrest warrant for bucky ( white dude) They APOLOGIZE while arresting him. The show has done a good job showcasing the subtle mindset that effects the way people behave with regards to prejudice.

[@NKunihisa]

No one is talking about how perfectly they wrote in all the systematic racism that has finally come to the forefront and that we are CURRENTLY dealing with and how our favorite superheros aren't exempt from it. Mackie is killing it in this show (even though Bucky is my absolute fave in MCU) and I am loving every second of this series.

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

It's not currently dealing with is what we've been dealing with ever since slavery ended

[@ThanatoselNyx]

@@antoinerideaux-porche6036 I used to do drugs. I still do but I used to too.

[@carlossoto222]

Dr. Raynor dealing with Sam and Bucky is like an overstressed mom trying to get two arguing step brothers to get along for five minutes instead of killing each other lol

[@Alegreta122]

Great reaction. I'm loving the series. Love Sam. LOVE BUCKY. LOVE the action. Again Sebastian had me tearing up.

[@Joshuavancruz]

Marvel is KILLING IT. I love it. The character development is awesome and Bucky made me cry with that line about Steve being wrong about him. That shit hit home. This feels like the perfect sequel to WS and Civil War.

[@davidramirez1021]

Steve was the first, and Bucky wasn't made a super soldier till Hydra got hold of him. Isiah was the US supersoldier of the Korean War, and therefore Steve's immediate successor while he was on ice.

[@davidramirez1021]

Hold on... Zola made Bucky into a super soldier, and SHIELD had emigrated him and other HYDRA scientists to work for them after the war. Bradley was made a super soldier after the war as well. OH CRAP I'll bet that Zola made Bradley into a super soldier for the US gov't!

[@brianlanders9457]

FYI. In cap the first avenger in the war against hydra war montage Cap used guns. 😛🤷🏼‍♂️

[@BichaeldeAngelo]

He also uses guns in Avengers

[@calebhansen3791]

A few things. 1. Cap used a gun in the first movie. So yeah there's that. 2. GSP's character is Batrock the Leaper. 3. Zemo is the bad guy from Civil War, not Winter Soldier. 4. Isaiah was turned into a super soldier during the Korean War. So like 10 to 15 years after Cap. 5. The Zemo intro is a reference to The Silence of The Lambs. Foreshadowing?

[@xAVErRvISCARRa]

John Walker is the opposite of Steve, Steve was a humble guy who watched violence as the last resource, instead John is kind of a fanatic with anger issues, he definitly will use violence

[@DirtyRandy100]

Didn’t seem like he had anger issues 🤷‍♂️

[@rimun5235]

@Perry98 His buddy does say “You can’t just punch your way through stuff anymore.” Or something of that sort in the beginning. It seems he’s a bit of a forceful character. I think he’ll be more of an anti hero than a villain. For one, I think he’s probably trying to do the right thing, but it will become a question of, to what extent?

[@xAVErRvISCARRa]

@@DirtyRandy100 wait to see it

[@xAVErRvISCARRa]

@Perry98 i dont know man, in one of the comics he kills "enemies of the state" like he was playing dodgeball, he is very violent

[@nicoblac9368]

@Perry98 He’s a very violent killer with no remorse, what are you talking about?

[@shrezii843]

bucky and isaiah met during the korean war, bucky and cap became super soldiers in wwII

[@wtimmins]

Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan have SUCH chemistry together.

[@metallicnole4514]

The way I gather is that after WW2, the government made many attempts to recreate the supersoldier serum. Isaiah was one of those experimented on to try to recreate the formula.

[@Maplecakes1221]

Zemo isn't with Hydra but just has all their secrets along with a heavy grudge against the Avengers for the death of his family as collateral loss from when part of Sokovia dropped on them in Age of Ultron

[@thomasrocker3684]

did anyone noticed the line from Sam "last time we stole the shield, Sharon branded Enemy of the State" ... so Sharon Carter have been on the run since Civil War ... alone. Since she wasn't with Capt and the rest of the team in Infinity War. The will be interesting when she shows up next week.

[@sersastark]

Isaiah Bradley was THE original Captain America, before Steve. He survived out of 300 subjects and because he survived they tested him and took his blood and those tests resulted in the serum that was given to Steve. He was still forced to be active around the same time as Steve but was never talked about and once his duty tour finished he was indeed jailed for thirty years. This was the comics that came out in the early 00s called The Truth: Red White and Black.

[@redfox3334]

I think the problem with Walker is that he is arrogant and over confident. He's not a bad person but, he doesn't have the humility that Steve had.

[@Kittynation589]

Wait till he get the serum

[@Hornerandassociates]

The Genealogy of the Super Soldier treatment is essentially this. The original formula was developed by Erskine which was given with unfortunate side effects first to Johan Schmidt (Red Skull) then with modifications to Steve Rogers. This is the most efficient formula and it is lost with the death of Erskine. The US, HYDRA, Soviets, and others use this work to experiment with variants of the formula some more successful than others. None of them are effecive 100% and most of the projects only yield one or two successes before being shut down. Winter Soldier is one of the successes of a formula done by HYDRA (The experiments when Barnes was held captive by HYDRA of which he is the only survivor) but his variant is implied to have less "something" than Steve but still be pretty close. Another variant was given to Isaiah Bradley during The Korean War which outside the MCU had significant drawbacks regarding his health and mental stability. Another Variant was given to the other Winter Soldier recruits in the Hydra Base in Siberia which we saw how that went down and they had to be kept on ice. I suspect that Black Widow is the subject of a mild variant as part of the Soviet espionage program and that medical procedure was more than just a tubal ligation. Emil Bronsky (The Abomination) was given a US variant with huge side effects then subjected to Gamma Therapy which mutated him further. Banner's gamma project was an attempt to build a supersoldier variant disguised as a medical program.

[@70briareos]

I think when Hydra turned Bucky into the Winter Soldier they would usually put him in some sort of cryo-suspension when he's not in use. That's why he's still alive and still looks young.

[@kujoontheradio789]

John was trying so hard and he saw that it wasn’t working so he finally snapped.

[@bare365]

The new Cap may have some abilities (enhanced abilities) because he jumped out the helicopter on top of a moving truck and his sidekick repelled down a rope. Also, he fought the flag smashers and held his own before getting kicked off the truck.

[@juliant]

every single person who watched this became confused when john walker showed up throwing that shield around like Cap did.

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

White wolf was actually a guy whose family was fine over wakanda and they're plane crashed so Black panther's dad took him in raised them and train them and he became the white wolf

[@Ndw960]

Steven: "What have these folks taken.." Nikki: "....Weapons..." HAHAH :D

[@chainreactions5807]

Anyone recall the last time Bucky and Sam were laying side by side...DEFEATED?? Oh yes, Civil War after getting smacked down by Spider-Man. I think this is their "thing" lol They'll be true partners when the next time they end up laying on the ground side by side defeated, they won't be talking hate to each other. I could imagine Bucky saying, "This again..." and Sam replying, "Yeah. We suck."

[@lw4611]

Coming from Luxembourg (next to Germany) I am so excited to see more of Daniel Brühl in the MCU! I hope he will get more and more international opportunities like this and some other projects he was in such as Inglorious Bastards or The Alienist (and many great German movies). I grew up watching him on TV and I would love to see him be successful in Hollywood

[@ateam404]

Best reaction I’ve seen on this episode! In Civil War when Bucky’s got the metal arm (In flashbacks) I thought it was after he fell from the train in CATFA but apparently that was during the Korean War when Isaiah ripped it off.

[@danielruiz8259]

12:00 About the shield weight, Vibranium is a kind of metal that is lighter that regular metal, if i'm correct, it was said that "vibranium is stronger than steel, weighs one third as much"

[@KingofKings914]

Nikki: I’m Gonna Call This Cap “John” THANK YOU!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽