Nikon D850 vs Nikon Z7: Which Camera To Buy? The ULTIMATE BATTLE

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Jared Polin

Jared Polin

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Which camera should you buy, the Nikon D850 or the Nikon Z7? A lot depends on if you want a mirrorless or a DSLR and if you shoot video or not. This video will help you better answer the question as to which camera you should buy.
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@bradtrounson
@bradtrounson Жыл бұрын
My next camera is looking like the D850. Still not interested in mirrorless at that price point.
@masowar
@masowar 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Jared, I just took my brand new D850 just less than one hour ago... My previous camera was a 6.5 years old D800 and the feeling is the same in my hands: reliable... I'll take my time to cross the river to the mirrorless. I'd like something lighter but that's it for now. I keep trying focusing on my images than in technolgy! Keep on posting this kind of videos, I'm following you since long time. Greetings from Italy
@jaritsu
@jaritsu 5 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. Love your work :) It'd be such a hard call. As somebody with both a D750 and a Sony A7RIII, I have to say that my biggest beef with these mirrorless bodies is the lack of buttons and tactile feel. The D850 with the backlit buttons and easier function selects would be dreamy. But OTOH the AF coverage and upcoming Eye-AF (even if it just ends up being serviceable), is such a good thing, When I go back to my D750 the narrow coverage area of the AF is my biggest frustration. I keep thinking about upgrading the D750 at some point, but it's still such a great goddamn camera. Truth of the matter is (for me) neither of these really compel me to upgrade just yet. I have the A7RIII and some native sigma primes for portraits and shoots where I prefer the AF capabilities. I'd be inclined to go with the Z7, but I have to say, every time I hold somebodies D850 in my hand, I really get the itch to grab one.
@dedycated7951
@dedycated7951 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jared! I dream to buy the D850
@photosteve53
@photosteve53 4 жыл бұрын
I have a D800 & I wanted a new camera. I used to shoot jazz Bands & I needed the extra spot focus choices, so I went with the Z7
@harleyrider9166
@harleyrider9166 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite right on the FPS for the Z7 bud. High-speed continuous: 5.5 fps (14-bit NEF/RAW: 5 fps) High-speed continuous (extended): 9 fps (14-bit NEF/RAW: 8 fps). Also not quite right on the Z7’s Eye Auto Focus because the Z7 currently has eye AF as well as Animal Face Detection so today it would have got the checkmark over and above the D850. I will give you the fact that the Eye AF wasn’t available in the initial firmware release on the Z7, which is most likely when this video was made and posted to KZbin, but it does now and it’s awesome!. This being said potential buyers of either camera may need to re-evaluate their decision prior to purchasing because a lot has changed on the Z7 since this video was posted. It’s an awesome camera! Let’s not forget the portability of it as well as the new and larger Z Mount, which allows more light into the camera. That’s what photography is all about. Light is your friend. Cheers 🥂
@sramabadran
@sramabadran 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please do one comparing the D850 to the Z7 II?
@harkypark9413
@harkypark9413 5 жыл бұрын
Z7 is not a upgrade to the D850. The D850 is a pro level camera whereas the Z7 is not. Apparently a pro level mirrorless is planned for later.
@drashadibudi
@drashadibudi 5 жыл бұрын
Just buy sony a7R3, if you want to purchase new.. all the minus of them, A7R3 have it all
@Aksunkuvat
@Aksunkuvat 5 жыл бұрын
Sony is great techno toy sure but lacks canons and nikons legacy and soul :)
@drashadibudi
@drashadibudi 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aksunkuvat LOL 🤣🤣🤣
@ahmadreza6818
@ahmadreza6818 5 жыл бұрын
does it have great color science?
@drashadibudi
@drashadibudi 5 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadreza6818 LOL, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Color science?? 🤣 you should do more research
@ahmadreza6818
@ahmadreza6818 5 жыл бұрын
Ashadi Budi you don’t get it? Wow are you really a sony user ?
@crissignori7482
@crissignori7482 5 жыл бұрын
just buy both and then leave some cash aside for the next model next year .....
@nerforeos675
@nerforeos675 5 жыл бұрын
The D850 is one of the best 35mm cameras ever made, period.
@picknoname3425
@picknoname3425 5 жыл бұрын
DSLR*
@tiptop9909
@tiptop9909 Жыл бұрын
I sold my Nikon Z7 and bought a D850
@AmateurPhotographer12
@AmateurPhotographer12 2 ай бұрын
Bro why is the Nikon d850 cost more then the Nikon z7??
@chabuk123
@chabuk123 Ай бұрын
I am considering doing that now. The autofocus is atrocious. Misses 30-40% of the time.
@tomd4748
@tomd4748 9 сағат бұрын
@@AmateurPhotographer12all used camera prices are super jacked up for nothing
@paulmitchell1580
@paulmitchell1580 Жыл бұрын
I just sold my Z7ll mirrorless is just marketing hype, i'll keep the D850 it's fantastic! i could go back to a D700 and take amazing pictures.
@commonsense263
@commonsense263 5 жыл бұрын
The D850 is the BEST DSLR in history. The Z7 is the first in the future mirrorless. I have the D850. Why go with a prototype? I will most probably choose the next Nikon Mirrorless in a year or so. With all the backlash, it will most likely have Eye-AF and Dual Card Slots and maybe some new surprises like a 50+ Megapixel Sensor. For a Backup now to my D850, I am considering a Z6 as it has the same video capability of the Z7, but $1200.00 cheaper. Anyway, great time to be alive in Photography!
@BenTroxell
@BenTroxell 5 жыл бұрын
Common Sense A year or so 😂. They’re not Sony.
@alecbailey7235
@alecbailey7235 5 жыл бұрын
The z6 and z7 are getting eye af in a future update, which is pretty rad! I'm proud that Nikon is listening to the critiques of these cameras.
@jaritsu
@jaritsu 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot disagree. If I had a D850 I can't imagine side-grading to a Z7 unless you just really really need the AF coverage. Both look like great cameras though.
@BermyBwoy
@BermyBwoy 5 жыл бұрын
I'm loving my new Z 6 to compliment my lovely pair of D500s.
@patfish3291
@patfish3291 5 жыл бұрын
better video capability as the Z7! ;-)
@iaintyourgganbu4715
@iaintyourgganbu4715 5 жыл бұрын
I went with d850 cuz some wise man passing by told that it's unwise to drop 3+ grands on v1 of a new product. I love my shiny new toy.
@tamito9298
@tamito9298 5 жыл бұрын
D850 is a magic camera The best in the world
@jixxxxer17
@jixxxxer17 4 жыл бұрын
have you tried a D4 or D5 ?
@paulgrimard7863
@paulgrimard7863 4 жыл бұрын
@@jixxxxer17 Had the D5 and still prefer the 850,.. the D5 is just way to heavy and I rather have the extra resolution and cropability of the 850 over the extra f stops of the D5.
@jixxxxer17
@jixxxxer17 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulgrimard7863 Excellent points thanks for sharing , Peace !
@williammorales8204
@williammorales8204 4 жыл бұрын
@@jixxxxer17 Omg I don't miss the weight of a full body at all. Yes the d850 is the best camera in it's price range, no doubt I love mine. I do love my z6 for everyday, it's so nimble.
@jixxxxer17
@jixxxxer17 4 жыл бұрын
@@williammorales8204 thanks, I"m guessing the D850 has a dual card slot ?
@PEWPEWNATION
@PEWPEWNATION 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for actually doing a real review and comparison of these cameras. Personally I love the 2 card slots, larger size body, grip, and the ability to use all my lenses without an adapter. If I did more video work I would look into the Z7 but because I do mainly product lifestyle photography the 850 gets my vote!
@fpvsky2887
@fpvsky2887 2 жыл бұрын
D850, D850, D850,.... If you're going mirrorless go Fuji film medium format don't waste your money on anything else...
@urmumsgstring8254
@urmumsgstring8254 4 жыл бұрын
just about to buy my first full frame, regardless of other systems i will be getting a D850.
@helisoma
@helisoma 2 жыл бұрын
D850 battery pack can also take rechargeable NiCd batteries so you don't need to spend extra $500 on the Nikon battery and charger
@nikonman3971
@nikonman3971 4 жыл бұрын
I have over hundred lenses , and I have tried canon , Sony . The D 850 is THE Camera. It will take a lot to get me to change . D850’s is the best
@cotswoldphotographers
@cotswoldphotographers 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% and if I were in the market for a 45mp camera then at this moment in time I would go with the D850 but only because of the grip. I’m really looking forward to seeing how the firmware updates fix the eye af because this might be a game changer for me. Exciting times ahead!
@billtruran6727
@billtruran6727 5 жыл бұрын
I purchase the D850 because I like to travel with a real weapon! If I hit a creep with a Z7 it would break!
@awc723
@awc723 5 жыл бұрын
for the simple fact that the Z 7 is a 1st gen I wouldn't buy it...I agree that the future is Mirrorless but I'll wait till they sort out most of the kinks...
@StephensEFRC
@StephensEFRC 4 жыл бұрын
It's like a Nikon D1. Junk.
@mannfan12
@mannfan12 2 жыл бұрын
And just barely two years later the Z7 II comes out - and significantly better. If I had purchased a Z7 I would be pissed.
@UltraDoug
@UltraDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Wedding Photographer = Stick with the tried and true 850 until all of the cons of the Z fall way through evolution. OR - pick up a Z as a back up to get used to with the 850 as a primary.
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 5 жыл бұрын
Yes your right - I have 2 D750 cameras they need to be relegated to B cams (160000 clicks) 4 years old. My problem is I do need to get a new camera and I'm now at least 50/50 video stills. I'm cautious about buying another DSLR at the moment. I'm going to have to see if Nikon can tweek a bit more AF juice in firmware upgrades to make the Z6 a safe purchase.
@BermyBwoy
@BermyBwoy 5 жыл бұрын
Wedding Photographer = wait for D760.
@commonsense263
@commonsense263 5 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 5 жыл бұрын
@@BermyBwoy if it ever arrives 😁
@MatthewSaville
@MatthewSaville 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, as a wedding photographer, it's always great to have a second ultralight body and lens on your shoulder/hip, with a 35 or 50 prime for those random shots you want. They're not critical enough to the final delivery that the dual card slot issue isn't a deal-breaker, and it's great to have such amazing portability with the EVF that allows you to nail exposure and WB so easily. I did the same thing with the EOS R and the 35/50 RF, it was a delight to have as a 2nd body although that 50 RF is a beast so it's not really much more portable compared to a 5D and a 50 L II. Either way, I'd go with a Z6 (and the Z 35 S) for this job, (wedding candids) for sure. The Z7 is a bit overkill unless you're going to use it for more serious portraits...
@stanspb763
@stanspb763 5 жыл бұрын
I went with both. I had the D850...great stills camera...but after spending a week with a loaner Z7 I thought about it for a couple months and in a weaker moment, bought it at a branch of a local chain. They threw in a 64gig XQD and 3 extended warranty. For raw stills, they are indistinguishable, both excellent. But for JPG stills, the Z7 has the edge because of the newer Expeed 6 processor. I was not concerned about the single slot because during the loaner week I found the new version of their wireless connectivity is lightyears ahead of any other camera I have seen including the D850. Over the two months with it and several events, I still have not removed the XQD once. All the files go really fast to my editing computer and that has been fast and flawless. That is one of the best features, reliable wireless backup that is seamless and 14 bit raw files arriving on the editing computer in just over 1 second after each shot is made. The range is good. The Z7 was intended to be a travel and second camera for shoots with the D850 as the primary but the more I use the Z7 the more it gets priority. I am getting more interesting personal shots because it is small enough to be with me all the time. One of the great benefits of the Z line is that new mount. I know some reviewers say the new low cost small 1.8 primes feel cheap but they are all metal, light and have a noticeably better corner to corner sharpness and contrast wide open and than my top F mount lenses that cost much more and are bulkier. They have very impressive performance. for wide open sharpness, they are the best lenses at their FL available. That bodes well for a large number of primes and faster zooms scheduled to be released in the coming months. Since I do a lot of portraits, I am pretty picky about selecting focus plane so don't care about eye AF but apparently, a lot of people what the camera to decide so there is good news for them, a new firmware update adds 3 big news features 1 Eye AF, 2; 12bit RAW video out the HDMI port which is a game changer for serious videographers who really need top quality images with 10,000 times the fine step of illuminance than the other cameras out with far courser steps. The 3rd feature is an addition of CFExpress card support that should make the camera into an infinite buffer with 5-8 times the buffer clearing speed. The cards announced to have 8 pipes so it is possible to write copies to more than 1 pipe for in-card backup. There are hints of additional features added in later firmware updates. I like grips, and was not happy to hear the battery grip might not have controls. Nikon only says it has 2 battery slots. But playing with the phone app for the camera and finding it is possible to control everything on the camera with BlueTooth, any 3rd party or Nikon can add any number of control to a grip. Within a month or two expect to see 3rd party grips that control at least shutter, AF-on and joystick AF point selector. For those complaining about not having a forward facing screen for video selfies, they seem to lack imagination. Anyone serious about video will have a larger monitor recorder like the Ninja 5 but for the rest, they can use their phone as a monitor. Now I am thinking of selling my D800 because it is gathering dust on the shelf and use that towards a Z6 as a personal walking around camera and second camera for lightweight shoots supporting the Z7. A pro build quality better than the competition, weather sealed, Z mount camera for $1996 is a bargain. For video it has no competition and stills its a very good camera.
@HaggenKennedy
@HaggenKennedy 5 жыл бұрын
@Stan SPb: Wow, that's really a great review, very informative. I have the D850, and I'm happy with it, but I like hearing about what people think of the Z7. Thanks so much for sharing all of this with us, Stan.
@Ben01tM
@Ben01tM 5 жыл бұрын
Not planning to by either of those cameras but I've got to give u kudos for this comment.
@thiagotdia
@thiagotdia 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Stan SPb. If you allow me, I'll ask you a question as you are the owner of both of the cameras that i'm having a hard time choosing between. You wrote that the wireless connection on the Z7 is better than the D850. Since May there has been an update for the D850 so it's possible to connect wireless directly to a pc. Can you tell me if with this update the D850 is as easy to connect as the Z7? Best regards
@yurijones1575
@yurijones1575 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this honest, in depth review.
@todaysgrailtomorrowsbeater
@todaysgrailtomorrowsbeater 5 жыл бұрын
2 cards is a professional worry. If you knw what's at stake, you never go without the redundancy.
@barmalini
@barmalini 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that it can be important for a journalist or event photographer to have a redundancy, but had I have a second card slot in my Z6, it would stay always empty, especially taking into account the price of an XQD card
@keekeefries6298
@keekeefries6298 4 жыл бұрын
Ummmm....pack a few extra cards in your bag? How often do these cards really go bad?
@StephensEFRC
@StephensEFRC 4 жыл бұрын
Once is more than enough.
@hopeforthefuturesg
@hopeforthefuturesg 4 жыл бұрын
@@keekeefries6298 exactly..fork up the cash for 240g xqd card and you should be good..lol..been shooting on the same xqd card in a d850 since the day it came out in 2018 and never had a problem yet
@tomhughes5123
@tomhughes5123 4 жыл бұрын
haha redundancy , i was a techy diver for 20 years .we carried 2x the eqipment into the depths , we never used the spare gear but it was there in case of a failure , and something iv never had problems with in a camera , its cards that cause problems .. buy the best you can afford . high capacity high speed read and write .. youl be fine
@cheristader8842
@cheristader8842 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jared, these videos really help with the decision making process. I use a Nikon d7200 and have been wanting to upgrade to a full frame. I understand mirrorless is the next generation in technology. I thought the Z7 would be a great transition into that as I can use my current lenses and slowly move into the z lenses. Yet, I'm an enthusiast photographer who enjoys birds and macro. Therefore, this video helped very much with my decision. Since I'm not a professional, I can still get a great camera (D850) and probably find one used and not break the bank.
@jonglaser4468
@jonglaser4468 5 жыл бұрын
Sold my d850 and Bought the z7. ITs ok but too many little annoying things for me: 1) My tripod plate had to be removed when i switched lenses and FTZ adapter..2)24-70 had alot of chromatic aberration 3) Not many lenses to chose from yet 4) The wired remote plug kept slipping out when shooting vertical 5) Cant be converted to IR(horizontal banding) 6) Not a big weight difference when using FTZ and lens 7) One card slot(not a deal breaker) 8) battery life was really short 9) My EVF kept shutting off to conserve batter power. In the end, I Sold my z7 and repurchased a used d850.
@Ashleyapples
@Ashleyapples 5 жыл бұрын
Jon Glaser thats good to know
@nicks231988
@nicks231988 5 жыл бұрын
That's makes my decision easier
@jonglaser4468
@jonglaser4468 5 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Toner Nope,,not worth it,,850 is a beast......
@jonglaser4468
@jonglaser4468 5 жыл бұрын
no way,,not until they have more lenses available and horizontal banding when converted to IR @Johnny Toner
@nicks231988
@nicks231988 5 жыл бұрын
I finally got my d850 today 😊
@Xiox321
@Xiox321 5 жыл бұрын
Right off the bat I'd say the D850, especially since I just spent a year saving up to buy one.
@nirvanaatashin5900
@nirvanaatashin5900 4 жыл бұрын
lmfao, same here
@tomhughes5123
@tomhughes5123 4 жыл бұрын
yeah none of that self importance photographic veganism for me m8 .. the full fat d850 with grip aand trillogy of heavy humping 2.8 glass for me buddy
@havocproltd
@havocproltd 4 жыл бұрын
I remember saving up for my first SLR - a Canon TX! That was 45 years ago. Good for you! Now, when I bought my first D850 I did have to unload my D810. But then I found myself buying another D850! I hate switching lenses. I don't think you'll have wasted your time saving up!
@henrydesrosiers3583
@henrydesrosiers3583 5 жыл бұрын
I have the D850 and that is where I'm staying. It's a great camera and I plan to stick with it for a long while. I'll wait for the Z9!
@tomhughes5123
@tomhughes5123 4 жыл бұрын
if it looks like a d850.
@suzKawasaki
@suzKawasaki 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Warner I second that
@JuanSanchez-zz3me
@JuanSanchez-zz3me 2 жыл бұрын
Have you gotten your Z9 yet
@nakhoneproduction2164
@nakhoneproduction2164 2 жыл бұрын
what i ahould buy if i just take fashion photo and wedding photos just photos , because vdo i have panasonic already ?
@westpalmdoc
@westpalmdoc 5 жыл бұрын
i sold off my sony mirrorless bodies to get a d850. found these tiny mirrorless bodies awkward to hold and change settings quickly. the d850 feels infinitely better in my hands. now faced with needing a backup camera, i see no reason to get a z7 over the d850; battery life, buffer, larger more comfortable size (for me) all point to the d850.
@zaneclone
@zaneclone 5 жыл бұрын
A negative for the cost of 850 battery grip- yet no negative for the cost of ETZ mount adapter...?
@markferman5058
@markferman5058 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the D850 due to its great stills reviews, but then got in to video. Since I had all the Nikon glass, I decided to purchase the Z7 to focus on video. I use both, but exclusively use the Z7 for video. Thanks Jared - great and fair review.
@filipivan5125
@filipivan5125 5 жыл бұрын
Never gonna buy such expensive camera but I watch anyway because I like Jared's videos haha
@clairejaggers7811
@clairejaggers7811 4 жыл бұрын
The z7 just looks so fragile in comparison to the D850. I personally like the weight of a heavier camera, especially since I have a slight tremor in my hands. And as many others said, the z7 is a prototype, and I don't want the first version of anything. I'm getting a D850 and I'll run it into the ground before I ever think about switching.
@guyyowell8547
@guyyowell8547 5 жыл бұрын
I have always been a Nikon shooter going all the way back to the Nikon F2 (film camera). I have both the D850 and the new Z7, and I love them both. But I use these two cameras differently. Hands down, the D850 is the best DSLR on the market today, and I tend to use this camera whenever I’m shooting landscapes from a tripod. The Z7, on the other hand, is my go-to camera whenever I want to walk around shooting handheld due to the weight and the amazing IBIS. And the beauty of the Z7 is that you don’t sacrifice image quality because of the great sensor with exactly the same resolution as the D850. That being said, I have been using the Z7 for landscape work recently as well, and I’m really impressed with the quality of the images. The “kit” 24-70mm f/4 lens is super sharp from edge to edge. Still, I wouldn’t sell my D850. I love both cameras!
@TBBMusicBlog
@TBBMusicBlog 5 жыл бұрын
What about low-light shooting? Have a preference. I'm thinking more for concerts.
@EdmondOliverLives
@EdmondOliverLives 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about buying either a Z7 or a D850 soon and both me and my brother do a lot of Macro photography, hiking, and some low light photography. I was curious which one you think might be better for that type of stuff. I'm so torn between the two. Any insight is appreciated. Thank you. Hope you are well.
@guyyowell8547
@guyyowell8547 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdmondOliverLives Hello Oliver, personally, having owned both the D850 and Z7, and now the Z7 II as well, I would recommend getting the Z7 II. It really ticks all of the boxes for me. I actually owned both the D850 and Z7 at the same time, but found that once your start using the EVF, it’s very hard to go back to an optical viewfinder, so I sold my D850 and bought a second Z7. Unfortunately, a macro lens for the Z-series cameras has not yet been released, and I found that the F-mount version from Nikon didn’t work very well with the FTZ adapter. It kept hunting for focus, and the internal image stabilization of the lens was very noisy. I actually sold that lens. I only have one F-mount lens remaining: the 200-500mm f/5.6. The new Z-mount lenses are the best I’ve ever used in all my years as a photographer. I hope this information is helpful. You can always DM me on my Instagram page: @guygabrielphotography if you’d like to chat further.
@JohnLexis
@JohnLexis 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 850 and the Z7 bird photography I always have problems with the Z7 not good at auto focus often loses the object and focuses on somewhere else Z7 is perfect in the studio think they are both good it depends on what you are going to photograph with it
@alchemisthere
@alchemisthere 5 жыл бұрын
If I would work all day long as a professional, I would take a D850 and a Z6. With these to you can shoot EVERYTHING. But I can't choose one, way to hard of a decision.
@HectorRiveraPhotography
@HectorRiveraPhotography 5 жыл бұрын
a1ch3mist37 sumo my 850 love my z7 killer
@shoopSAUCE
@shoopSAUCE 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I'm finally ready to upgrade/go full frame and I just can't decide now that the Z6 is out (and will be receiving firmware upgrades in the very near future that will iron out the kinks).
@alchemisthere
@alchemisthere 5 жыл бұрын
@@shoopSAUCE I think if you need the resolution take the Z7, if not take the Z6. If you don't shoot any video and need resolution take the D850. I got a D750 cause it's cheap, I don't shoot video, and it's a really good camera.
@shoopSAUCE
@shoopSAUCE 5 жыл бұрын
@@alchemisthere That's what I'm thinking. I'd bypass the 750 since the 7100's sensor is a beast, but I want to go full frame and I've been hearing nothing but good things about the Z6/7. I won't be blowing anything up billboard size, so the Z6 is where I'm currently leaning. I rarely use video but the EVF and the upcoming firmware updates for Eye AF and tweaks to the AF in general have me still leaning towards the Z6 over the 850. My only hesitation is that I do concert photography (as well as ports/engagements) and there is some concern for the AF on the Z6 in quick situations. I wouldn't have that issue on the 750/850. Decisions, decisions.
@alchemisthere
@alchemisthere 5 жыл бұрын
@@shoopSAUCE true. But I think the EVF for live concerts is important, because it shows the exposure in real time, and with light shows this is important IMO
@Blueangel290393
@Blueangel290393 3 жыл бұрын
I use Dslr's for photography. I don't even make any videos. I've got some big hands, that's a fact. Sometimes I print pictures on a big format (e.g. 60x90cm). Shooting sports & nature most of the time. The D500 is it. My best camera, still, I f***ing love it. BUT, consirdering all the real basic facts, the D850 would be the best FX camera I can think of after my D4. Will save some bugs until I'll buy the 850 the upcoming years... And I will def. use the F-system as long as possible ! (also because of my beloved gear), until then I hope that Nikon will release a real tough big photographer's mirrorless body.
@kathylinaker4869
@kathylinaker4869 2 жыл бұрын
Long time hobby shooter from film days. Love my D750. Looking to purchase one of the Nikon film cameras possibly the Nikon FM2. Too much stuff on these beautiful expensive cameras for me. I like choosing my settings & shoot manual (wildlife), etc. Not a professional but alway happy to see the latest gear. Very good comparison of the D850 & Z7. Thank you for the info.
@HatRock
@HatRock 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll only say this: NEVER BUY THE FIRST VERSION OF ANYTHING. It’s a public beta. If you have the money and like to buy and test new things, then enjoy, go for it. Be one of the testers for a better product. If you want a tried and tested reliable camera, go with the D850, D810, D800 or D750. My personal recommendation is: Wait the third generation, most of the time that is the real mature product to get.
@cypherdk85
@cypherdk85 5 жыл бұрын
For me it is really hard to pick. But personally for my style of photography the z7 wins and that is only because I can use all my vintage glass on it and the IBIS, and I shoot mostly manual focus lenses. But I would not say no to a d850, honestly the battery life on the d850 is a huge plus in my book so I won't have to pack as many batteries, I've been drooling over it for ages, I just don't have the money to buy it, and my d810 still works great.
@smooth6718
@smooth6718 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is picky, picky, picky... but when comparing weights of both cameras, the cards, batteries and Z-mount of each should be included. I mean, after all, few shoot without cards and batteries. In my case, with tons of F-mount lenses on hand, no way am I going to buy new Z lenses, so I would have no choice but to buy the Z-mount adapter. As a matter of fact, at only $250 ea., I would probably buy two Z-mounts if I bought the Z7. Here are the weight comparisons: D850 w/2 cards + bat = 2.2 lbs. Z7 w/1 card + bat + Z adapter = 1.8 lbs. A diff of less than 6.4 oz. or the weight of three tennis balls or 6 wooden pencils or three large eggs. Many thanks, Fro, for making up my mind to stay with my D850.... best camera ever made!
@annetteanderson6845
@annetteanderson6845 5 жыл бұрын
Saving up to purchase the D850 by the end of the year! Thank you for showing the exact listings for the grip and battery.
@Noriuslephotographe
@Noriuslephotographe 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy a nattery grip (non Nikon) and a battery non nikon and a charger non nikon ..for about 200$ canadian..(150$ US) I have been using them for a year now, and there is absolutely no problems with them (about 20000 clicks) ...jou don't have to spend an extra 1000$...hope this helps in your decision
@galesal1109
@galesal1109 5 жыл бұрын
might as well wait for the z7 mark ii lol
@rp-9866
@rp-9866 4 жыл бұрын
As a pro doing studio and landscape I have a D800 (and several other bodies) that still do very well. I like the 'concept' of mirrorless, and would buy a Z7 except for the one card slot. If the Z7 can get 23 checkmarks for whatever that was, the D850 should get 23 for two slots. It's like not backing up your hard drive(s). A card WILL fail, and if you have only one card in the camera you WILL lose those images. If you don't make a living with a camera, you may be okay with that. I can't afford to be. D850 for me.
@BoostLeekdMedia
@BoostLeekdMedia 5 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Z7. I tried it at my local shop and loved it. Felt good in my hands. 4 awesome questions at 22:17 that can help someone decide on the Z7 or D850 too! 1) Do you shoot Video? 2) Do you want something smaller and lighter? 3) Can you live with one card slot? 4) Can you live without vertical grip? If you answered "yes" to all of the questions above, heck yeah, jump on the Z7! Both cameras are phenomenal!
@BermyBwoy
@BermyBwoy 5 жыл бұрын
While I love my new Z 6 the body and controls still don't equate to my D500s or a D850. I can operate my D500s without looking at it but with the Z 6 I need to look at the menus more often. Not a huge deal but something I've noticed already. This consideration only applies to paid/professional situations such as live events/weddings and sports/wildlife where you need fast direct access to controls. For casual photography then the Z 6 and Z 7 are perfect. I really got my Z 6 for video and so far.. WOW!
@mannfan12
@mannfan12 2 жыл бұрын
1) Nope 2) Nope. 3) Nope 4) Nope It's the D850 by a longshot.
@chocloditelensman
@chocloditelensman 2 жыл бұрын
The D850 is light years ahead in autofocus than the z6.
@joekelly9369
@joekelly9369 7 ай бұрын
D850 every time , big plus the superior pro glass is £500 a lens now 14-24 24-70. 70-200 .. id need a mortgage to change lenses , The only benefit of the z9 is focusing , nothing else ,
@SAIMATKAR
@SAIMATKAR 5 жыл бұрын
Z6 or Z7 Any day but just the thing that XQD card thing sucks ..... I mean come on XQD card is not cheap like the SDHC cards
@pnartg
@pnartg 5 жыл бұрын
Your claim that all the old Nikon lenses can be used with the Z7 is pure BS. I have 14 Nikkor autofocus lenses and over half of them cannot autofocus and auto auto-diaphragm with the FTZ adaptor You can easily see this for yourself by just examining the FTZ, since you will see that the linkage is purely electronic - there is no mechanical linkage for AF lenses or diaphragm. After that there was no reason to listen to anything else you had to say.
@andrerobichaud
@andrerobichaud 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is talking about my very exact dilemma. I love his comparison between the cameras. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Although your first name reminds. me of some very scary people!
@MaheerKibria
@MaheerKibria 5 жыл бұрын
my problem with EVF has been vertigo I get from the display lag. I think that is the reason a lot of old-timer photographers don't like EVF. It's why I have stayed away from mirrorless cameras. -2000 checkmarks for any mirrorless camera till I find one that doesn't give me vertigo.
@isaacazulay
@isaacazulay 5 жыл бұрын
I will stay with my d850 for what I do landscape photography
@isaacwallace31
@isaacwallace31 Жыл бұрын
I’m a sports photographer so I’m saving up for the D850 and watching this video definitely made me more for sure that I want it vs before I watched any videos about it lol.
@pgtips4240
@pgtips4240 5 жыл бұрын
No, give the full checkmark to the d850 for having NO banding, regardless how far off exposure is!
@tonypasquarella6698
@tonypasquarella6698 2 жыл бұрын
Nikon D850 gets my vote
@sergioserramusic
@sergioserramusic 5 жыл бұрын
The Z7 seems a joke to the D850, let's be real. I'm a Canon shooter, but the D850 is the best DSLR to date, it's the 5D mark II of these years.
@dontgetmadgetwise4271
@dontgetmadgetwise4271 5 жыл бұрын
The 'best' DSLR to date? Really? D5 is better. Z7 is better. My pokey iPhone is better. Depends on use case, skills and objectives.
@sergioserramusic
@sergioserramusic 5 жыл бұрын
Are we not entertained? The D5 has less MP, it’s a more specialized sports camera like the 1DX. I said that the D850 is a great all rounder because has a lot of MP useful for portraits, landscape, but also wildlife since it comes with a focusing system that can be used for that, and a high frame rate too, even without the overpriced grip. It is built like a tank, just like a D5, but it’s a little more portable than that (very slightly though). The only advantages of the Z7 is the video features, but in that regard the Z6 is even better, and the EVF
@crxracer805
@crxracer805 5 жыл бұрын
The D5 is a joke. The D4 is far better in image quality. The D850 is the best out there right now, next to the D700.
@sixappeal8975
@sixappeal8975 5 жыл бұрын
Z7 and Iphone are not "DSLRS".
@TizOnly1
@TizOnly1 5 жыл бұрын
D850 has some advantages over the Z7 for sure. Namely dual card slots, and better tracking AF. Z7 has clear advantages over the D850 as well though. Video autofocus and IBIS. I don't see it mentioned much for how good it is for stills, but having IBIS is a huge advantage to have, especially considering so much of the best F-Mount glass is unstabilized. D850 is a phenomenal option, obviously, but so is the Z7. And Z7 has Eye AF incoming also.
@LadyFairChildVideo
@LadyFairChildVideo 3 жыл бұрын
as a Sony shooter, and previously canon shooter, i can honestly say Nikon (the top end ones that is) has better Image Quality SOOC than Sony/Canon. of course you can edit pics to look like NIKON.
@keepexploring8980
@keepexploring8980 5 жыл бұрын
Nikon is going to add their one of the best feature in terms of the AUTO FOCUS, the Eye Af and that is selectable person wise, in near future in their Z series cameras.
@JeffreyOakarPhotos
@JeffreyOakarPhotos 5 жыл бұрын
When you talk about card slots, it's like talking about seat belts or air bags. You can't say...."can you live with out it or not?" There's no going back! The fact is, if you are a working photographer the answer...if you really truly care about your photos and your clients and your livelihood...is NO, I will not use a camera without dual card slots. Unfortunately, that is a checkmark that makes the D850 the only option between these two.
@notyouraveragetechdad6865
@notyouraveragetechdad6865 5 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work love your videos and try to carry what you do into my channel
@gavrelle1917
@gavrelle1917 5 жыл бұрын
I was upgrading from d800. Here in the uk Nikon we’re giving us an extra 450 quid when part ex to a D850. I got one and love it.
@billrankin
@billrankin 3 жыл бұрын
Costs of XQD cards is a major issue, I have the D850 reliable , well built powerhouse of a camera. If I do video I use my video camera
@nerdMike
@nerdMike 5 жыл бұрын
All about the Z7 looking to the future.. If only a second card slot..
@braincoral9866
@braincoral9866 5 жыл бұрын
the Z8 will kick serious ass
@Jeff26
@Jeff26 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, they did that to keep pros away from the first generation. Always easier to have hobbyists be the guinea pigs because we aren’t as picky. I’d be shocked if gen 2 had 1 slot
@scottmurphy650
@scottmurphy650 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you are just another amateur.
@mr.tarkovish2587
@mr.tarkovish2587 5 жыл бұрын
See I'm 16 years old and I couldn't get a EVF I hate them I can stand them they get me headaches so I will stick with my 1D mk4
@Kron0s19
@Kron0s19 5 жыл бұрын
You should add something else in favour of the Z7... the recently announced firmware update...
@TheAdnanmajor
@TheAdnanmajor 3 жыл бұрын
Still ❤️ my Nikon D810. 📷
@josephteplitz4950
@josephteplitz4950 3 жыл бұрын
I use a D800 and the Z. My commercial work includes project photos for For interior designers, where I am shooting on a tripod. The Z is fantastic for that! I can see the exposure, real time, on the back of the camera. As lighting is a key element of the design, I use available light with the occasional reflector. Again, the preview is very helpful. I also shot for a local fox hunt group and some motorsports photography. The Z sucks for things that are fast moving. The DSLR is always there and ready, while you have to wait for the Z to wake up. I suspect there's a battery eating option to keep it on all the time, but the DSLR wins, hands down, for shooting things that move and change rapidly. Get both!
@tonypasquarella6698
@tonypasquarella6698 2 жыл бұрын
I went with the NIKON D850
@scottmurphy650
@scottmurphy650 5 жыл бұрын
The Nikon F mount has not changed in 60 years because Nikon got it PERFECT in the first place. I hope they never change it.
@absak
@absak 3 жыл бұрын
That's true but at the same time the new z has advantage and disadvantage
@timekpl
@timekpl 3 жыл бұрын
What is better for sports, for soccer? I have heard Z7 or Z7 II has a lag and that is useless for sports, have nayone test it?
@SonOfPhotography
@SonOfPhotography 5 жыл бұрын
The Nikon Z6 & Z7 now has eye-af
@sphyg
@sphyg 5 жыл бұрын
D Meyer soonTM
@BermyBwoy
@BermyBwoy 5 жыл бұрын
In September 2019.....
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited 5 жыл бұрын
It's eye socket AF 😂
@falconcrest32
@falconcrest32 5 жыл бұрын
@TheBorgCollective Nikon revealed at CES 2019 that they will release a firmware update that will include eye-AF. So yes, it will
@falconcrest32
@falconcrest32 5 жыл бұрын
@TheBorgCollective I never said it had it now. I'm just informing you what was announced at CES and it seemed you didn't know that info. I'm not the OP of this post and it seems like you're NOW being nit picky about words.
@prozac1127
@prozac1127 3 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable that a photographer would not want to look directly through the lens. The whole mirror less stuff is not for the artists.
@Lu-cho
@Lu-cho 4 жыл бұрын
D850 BETTER in low light. Between d850 and d780 Witch one is better?
@johansmitphotography
@johansmitphotography 4 жыл бұрын
That's a very worthy question.
@benboman5325
@benboman5325 5 жыл бұрын
let me tell you the difference between OVF and EVF, OVF can save power, and in the wild, I can shoot with OVF for days without worrying about battery hog EVF!
@frickd7355
@frickd7355 5 жыл бұрын
Fro, I upgraded from the 810 to the 850 because I thought it was a significant improvement. After almost a year I believe it was a significant improvement. I will not upgrade to the Z7 for two reasons. First, it does not appear to be a significant improvement since I do not do run and go video. Second my wife would kill me and I would not get to use it anyway. I agree the D850 is the best DSLR available today. It will be interesting to see what Nikon does with the Z7.1 or 7.5 or whatever in a few years. By the way I keep the SD cards as an offsite backup in addition to spare hard drives, etc. But that is the only reason for 2 card slots for me.
@marcuswilson5939
@marcuswilson5939 5 жыл бұрын
I have six Nikon D lenses. The Z6 and Z7 cannot auto focus with D lenses. Right now, the D850 wins hands down.
@Gwayneeee
@Gwayneeee 3 жыл бұрын
I stayed with D850 till now I finally replaced it with the Z7 II - but D850 will remain as backup.
@jbmarlinproductions
@jbmarlinproductions 5 жыл бұрын
Z7 all day. Do we know if there's still firmware updates coming for these cameras? I feel like there will likely be more functional improvements coming for the Z7
@butchfajardo8832
@butchfajardo8832 Жыл бұрын
I only do portraits and macro in my studio. I went for the D850.
@billjobes1851
@billjobes1851 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on review. It sure does come down to one's style of shooting. This D850 dude, having diverted to supplemental Sony's at the start of the mirrorless era, is not going to the Z7. I still regard the mirrorless movement as motivated as much by marketing (fire up sales) as any technical or artistic advantage. BTW, your Wind Tunnel test was astounding. If the government wasn't shut down, NASA could use that talent of yours.
@olakunleolafisoye8433
@olakunleolafisoye8433 4 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@ad19yoyo45
@ad19yoyo45 5 жыл бұрын
I started in photography BEFORE SLR cameras. Twin lens and range finder cameras were almost silent in use, were small and light weight. At 71 years of age I feel that photography has come full circle for me. I'm back where I started, no floppy mirror, light weight and silent shutter release...again.
@duanevigue1603
@duanevigue1603 Жыл бұрын
LMAO! The first SLR cameras were developed in the mid to late 1800's
@guillermoescala3679
@guillermoescala3679 3 жыл бұрын
I inclined for the 850. Also I believe that is stronger and better for Landscape Photography. Thank you for your video.
@williammorales8204
@williammorales8204 4 жыл бұрын
I have the d850 and z6, which I am perfectly happy with both. The z6 weight is great, fun and the viewfinder with non flash pics gives you no reason to blow highlights. The d850 however is just amazing, it does everything a photographer needs so damn well. The 850 all around is a lot better than any camera in it's price range, probably the only reason I'm still with Nikon. After using a mirrorless for a while, you can see why people make the switch over to Sony. If Nikon doesn't have a dual card mirrorless pro body within 3 years, I will probably switch as well.
@chocloditelensman
@chocloditelensman 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. d850 and z6. Love them both.
@havocproltd
@havocproltd 4 жыл бұрын
I love my D850 so much I bought two! Great video. better if you'd drink a little less MONSTER or Red Bull or whatever. You come off like a sideshow barker... JMO
@MaxLamdin
@MaxLamdin 5 жыл бұрын
i feel like you've kind of missed the point of the Z7, Nikon have explicitly said that the Z7 isn't intended to replace a D850, it's designed to be used alongside a D850 and the Z6 to be use alongside something like a D5 of D750, that's not to say that they're bad cameras on their own but i don't think there really needs to be a comparison about which one is better because they're meant to compliment each other
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 5 жыл бұрын
It’s meant to replace it. I’m not listening to them tell me it’s something other than a replacement.
@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeo
@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeo 5 жыл бұрын
I use my Z7 as a bathroom decoration. I can use it however I want
@StephensEFRC
@StephensEFRC 4 жыл бұрын
Battery life? Three check marks for D850.
@haydennettleton3272
@haydennettleton3272 2 жыл бұрын
Landscape Z7 everything else d850
@vipersnews
@vipersnews 5 жыл бұрын
You keep cranking out great videos Jared, I've learnt so much from watching you these last few weeks, loving it!
@m.maclean8911
@m.maclean8911 5 жыл бұрын
I waited to try out the Z7, then I bought the far superior D850. Super discount sale with free grip promo too. Easier to hold and operate (I don’t have lady hands). Check mark should have gone with the D850 for not needing the clunky lens adapter. Also check mark to D850 for being a better size and weight. Who has tiny hands needed to use the Z7? Smaller is not better when adjusting controls frequently. Dual card slot is huge. Better focus tracking, lit buttons, functional grip, better battery life, way faster FPS. No serious Z lenses yet. The Z line is clearly targeting consumers not pros. If you don’t need the features of the D850, and you have really small hands, then the Z line might be for you.
@architect1994
@architect1994 5 жыл бұрын
You did not mention the 8k time lapse for D850 which is not available for Z7
@truenosk5630
@truenosk5630 5 жыл бұрын
Khaled A. Aziz yes it is men check it out again
@dbland3
@dbland3 3 жыл бұрын
23 checkmarks? Well, there goes the review.
@ryonatkinson6637
@ryonatkinson6637 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, I’ve been waiting for this
@thelonesilencer
@thelonesilencer 5 жыл бұрын
The D850 is far superior to the Z7. Any true professional would take the D850 all day & if it is not even close. Get real with making it seem like it is even a comparison.
@JensErikThyholdt
@JensErikThyholdt 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for informative video. I feel that Z7 is a bit immature so far and with a limited selection of lenses and a hopeless adapter, I now replace my old D800 with a D850. Then we'll see about a 2-3 years if I'm ready for the mirrorless
@HaggenKennedy
@HaggenKennedy 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I feel. I'm still holding on to my D850, and very happy with it, I might add.
@kongtcheng2009
@kongtcheng2009 5 жыл бұрын
That's why i returned z7 and bought d850. Very happy. May z7 mark 2 or 3 but for now d850
@johnz4412
@johnz4412 4 жыл бұрын
As a Nikon shooter, with quality lenses, I just purchased a D850. I'm sure mirrorless have benefits. It doesn't lessen the quality proven in the D850. I also have a D810. The recent D850 + free grip sale was too good to pass up. If my work isn't exceptional with a D850, or D810 for that matter, my future expenditures should be only on education; not on another camera format.
@cameronhanksphotography1801
@cameronhanksphotography1801 5 жыл бұрын
As a landscape and travel photographer I switched from my D850 to the Z7, it was a no brainer for me. a lighter and more compact package while still holding superb image quality capabilities, The D850 is a superb camera and i cannot fault it or say a bad thing about it. I just wanted something lighter and the Z7 was it. sure its not going to be for everyone but i have no regrets in my decision. and the 24-70 f/4 is superb!
@fpvsky2887
@fpvsky2887 2 жыл бұрын
If you're only carrying around a 20 mm prime I would agree.. But if you're someone who likes the lens compression of 500 mm that little body doesn't seem to feel natural... And if that extra quarter pound is too much for you well.......
@chocloditelensman
@chocloditelensman 2 жыл бұрын
You will miss it and want it back.
@cameronhanksphotography1801
@cameronhanksphotography1801 2 жыл бұрын
Different strokes for different blokes I guess. I’d never shoot with a dslr again.
@scruffkingman
@scruffkingman 5 жыл бұрын
i was torn between a 850 or a sony a9 im getting a d850 with tamron lens since im starting from scratch
@CarnivalVillage
@CarnivalVillage 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome lens. I did the same and will be with this camera for a long time
@inhere3353
@inhere3353 5 жыл бұрын
I want both! but can't afford it so I'll continue to work with my d5500 and dream of the day I can buy a d850, z7 and a d5. 😀
@Tvojangel2000
@Tvojangel2000 5 жыл бұрын
было уже видео с соней, одно и тоже пережевывает. + у z7 уже есть фокус по глазам. видео ни о чем.
@andrewbalahura1555
@andrewbalahura1555 3 жыл бұрын
All the time d850 with F mount lenses!!
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