Nikon Z 14-24mm f2.8 S vs 14-30mm f4 S Lens Review | IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

[@froknowsphoto]

I LOVE NIKON!!!!

[@keoniland]

But we shoot Sony! 😂

[@hugoa847]

The man with 6 R5 say that !

[@punkrachmaninoff]

I am buying an OG Z6.

[@MyContestPix]

I guess you are back on Madeline's good side???

[@callumwatkin2190]

How did you get Z6ii NEF files into LR, doesn't seem to be supported yet...?

[@dietmarwechselberger6707]

Being a landscape photographer not shooting wide open (no astro photography!) I would go with the f4 as it is more compact, lighter and the IC is good enough. I also don't care about colored rings, I prefer the understatement of the new S line lenses. I can read and understand the difference of f2.8 vs f4. The S Line stands for good mechanical and optical build quality using high quality materials, and there is even a big difference in plastics by the way, and a constant aperture over the entire zoom range.

[@Realletsplaygrey]

Nikon makes the absolute best glass, hands down.

[@MrAyybee2cold]

But they don’t make dream glass like the 28-70F2.

[@Realletsplaygrey]

@@MrAyybee2cold they will make comparable glass soon. Plus the current lenses are fantastic. Most people don't have $3000 to throw at the 28-70 f2. Nor do most people need it

[@Chopper153]

Absolutely! But why did they remove that beautiful golden ring? Sed.

[@MrWillJS]

I've been waiting a long time for the 14-24mm 2.8 I pre-ordered it got it and I absolutely love it!... The photos, the video that comes out of it, the colours are phenomenal Nikon Z Mount glass is what's keeping me on with Nikon That and the files are phenomenally good to work with

[@455LT1]

The 14-30 is a perfect lens for landscape, and it has more range. No real need for 2.8 unless you're doing astro.

[@mohammed-alnabhani]

Agree... plus the filters are much smaller and easier to handle. I use it with magnetic filters and it so powerful combination!

[@zfreek98]

I could NOT stand the feel of the 14-30 in-hand when I played with one at a local camera shop. But, given that the dimensions of the new 14-24 are similar to the 24-70, I'm super eager to pick one up. I am currently running a Tamron 15-30 G2 on an FTZ for my super-wide and while it works phenomenally well, it's a god damn chunky bastard. Jared's quote in the beginning about balance and comfort is spot-on and shaving a pound off the lens will be awesome...

[@tfransson]

True. I have the PMVND 82 mm which fits the 14-30 and with step up rings it fits the rest of my collection.

[@455LT1]

@@tfransson I have a filter on my 14-30 as well. No special sizes needed. If money were no object, sure I'd want the 2.8 but I could just add a 20 1.8 for astro and still be around the same price.

[@stanspb763]

@@zfreek98 I have the Tamron 15-30 also and very happy with its optics, and like the feel of it but both the S lenses are better away from the center. There is a very nice confidence-inspiring feel to the G2, better feel than the f/4 14-30 but for weight size, optical quality, vibration reduction, the S lenses get the nod. I like the G on my D850 but it seldom gets used nowadays after 2 years with the Z6 and loving it.

[@jamesnelson1443]

As usual great job!! I always stay to the end to get the sniff & wind tunnel tests!!❤

[@ConceptNewEra]

I love how articulate you are whenever you speak about things like lens! Amazing clarity and information man! 💯✔🔥

[@zl8346]

for any serious landscape shooters who’s planning to use this lens: NiSi has already released a 100mm filter holder system for this lens. Enjoy :)

[@tomlew55]

How often would you shoot faster than f4 for landscapes? Maybe I'm wrong but he image quality doesn't appear worth $1500 more to me, and screw on filters are a fraction of the cost . The 14-30 is my go to lens for landscapes on my Z7, especially when lugging gear a few miles. I'm usually around f8 anyways, and if I'm looking for starbursts I'm upwards of f22. Most modern cameras and lenses are ALL great, it's who is behind them is what matters most.

[@MattJacques]

Hmm... could you use the function button to establish and permanently lock-in infinity focus for astrophotography? Now THAT would be awesome.

[@pmc7105]

I like that Nikon is designating a lightweight lens as part of the high image quality line-up. It's frustrating for those of us looking for lightweight full frame lenses that give excellent image quality; the companies either make huge heavy options for pros, or they assume you're not a serious photographer and make the lightweight one lower quality.

[@RonaldBuskens]

Canon f4 lenses also have a red ring, so I understand Nikon for giving the 14-30 f4 an S. Btw that sniff and windtunnel test was very funny this time 😂

[@SteelRiderCarl]

Because an f/4 premium lens is still a premium lens and might even be sharper in some cases than the f/2.8! As I was told by the salesmen at a local camera shop we used to have here near me, you'll pay more for the aperture than you'll pay for clarity.

[@Joseph-iu6ip]

You didn’t mention that it can hold gel filters internally.

[@detectivejonesw]

I think the s is not about aperture, its about image quality, so even if its only f/4 it should be bringing extremely high level image quality

[@techhead976]

That’s what saying, F2.8 to F4 isn’t a huge difference to run home about that’s why you have a camera that can handle higher ISO’s. The price cap is the issue lol

[@detectivejonesw]

@@techhead976 yeah I mean cameras compared to a decade ago can definitely handle an extra stop of iso which is gonna make up for the stop less of aperture, especially when you consider the camera is getting a better quality signal from the higher quality optics

[@techhead976]

@@detectivejonesw Exactly, What is the stop though? Like ISO 400 lol a D90 can handle that 😂

[@detectivejonesw]

@@techhead976 depends on what genre of photography you're doing I'd say. For the kind of thing I do, late night street photography, I could make good use of iso 6400 maybe. On my current camera that's not viable (canon sl3) but I'm planning to get a Nikon z6 which seems to handle 6400 well and even higher. If I get an f/4 lens I might even push it up another 2 stops although that's getting to the limit

[@techhead976]

@@detectivejonesw I was talking outdoors but yeah for night you’ll need at least a D7200 if you’re talking lower end but great cameras.

[@vicronychen]

The title suggests a comparison between Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 S and 14-30mm f4 S. The time for 14-30mm f4 S is from about 02:15 - 03:15, and 15:00 - 17:00, in total approximately 3 minutes ...

[@artsilva]

How often do you need that extra stop in a wide zoom? and Does it make you want to spend an extra $1300 for it.

[@romanpul]

Comes in pretty handy when you are doing documentary stuff or photojournalism indoors in tight places

[@artsilva]

@@romanpul ... again, how often is That for the average photographer?

[@romanpul]

@@artsilva This is pro lens, designed for the needs of pros, like photojournalists. And if you are mainly doing this type of stuff you‘re gonna use it a lot. This lens is obviously not meant for average photographers.

[@Biring1]

With the modern ISO performances, it doesn't matter much

[@frostasaurus2190]

@@artsilva I mean he does say like 5 times get the f4 if you're amateur and get the f2.8 if you're a pro.

[@danielhenzphotography]

Well, in the Canon World there is a L-Version with F4 and F2.8

[@funkyboogiee]

I'm assuming for real estate photography w/ a Nikon z6 iii, for example, the 14-30 f/4 would be good. I'm considering leaving Fuji for a Nikon set up for this.

[@theory8sf]

I think the oled screen on the lens is the new gold ring!

[@engene_unity]

Honestly, I did want the 2.8 but settled on the 14 - 30 f/4. I mainly use for travel and am really happy saving money and weight.

[@chrisogrady28]

I have big hopes for the Z8/9, as long as I can get supersampled 4K60 full frame without overheating I'll be happy! The 14-30 still looks amazing to be honest. I had hoped their 2.8 would have pushed the boat out a bit more and either done a 14-24 f2.2 or something like a 12-24 f/2.8. On the F mount it's like how we had the 16-35 f4 which most landscape photogs preffered over the 14-24, but now the Z equiv is smaller lighter cheaper and sharper. It seems even less worthwhile to go with the 14-24 than before.

[@Zeppy007]

The Nikon 18-35 is way sharper than the Nikon 16-35 f:4 no comparison!

[@ovidijuspocius6336]

My face when I seen the price was equivalent to eating a lemon.

[@Zanagash]

I’ve been waiting for this for ever !! Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@PASquared]

Deciding factor for me is the 'standard' 82mm filter thread on the 14-30. I shoot with a polarizer the majority of the time, so the size difference with filters is massive

[@davidguedj4489]

I'm using the Irik 15mm 2,4 and Nikon 24mm 1.8 G ED. The Nikon 24mm G ED get a score of 36 on sharpness while the Z 14-30 get a poor score of 17.... I do not know what to do while I do not want to go more with 2 lenses, also the weight is an issue now with the age... Afraid the quality will not be what I had with these 2 lenses. Any idea/recommandation ? Regarding this video, I saw a lot of tests said that 14-30 get same sharpness that 14-30 thanks

[@ericlau000]

I was struggling between the 24-70 kit and f2.8 last year. IQ > Weight > Price After owing the f2.8, it doesn’t got much difference in IQ in centre but when u check the corner, omg, so much better. I had no regret in buying a f2.8 with such expensive price at all. I think the 14-24 also had the same story. I probably will check the IQ difference. If they are very similar, I might for the 14-30 + 20 1.8.

[@IanHobday]

Canon has f4 L lenses, don't see why Nikon can't have f4 S lenses.

[@stephanhenn1563]

I think it's not a question of the aperture but the build quality. The 14-30 feels much cheaper, the tubus feels a little rickety... Didn't have that with any of my L-lenses in the Canon days.

[@stephanhenn1563]

@Code Bunny That's the point. All of my Z lenses are fine and feel well build. Ok, my brother in law had a little complaint with his first Z 24 f/1.8 and Nikon Germany changed it. My Z 20mm f/1.8 was fine out of the box. In fact even the much cheaper 50 1.8 prime feels less plastic (although it is) than the 14-30. That's why I waited for the 14-24. I think the 14-30 is worth around 600$ but not 1100 bucks.

[@eldindokara7868]

@@stephanhenn1563 I think 14-24 is worth $1500 instead of $2400

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

@@stephanhenn1563 They're all well built, and fully weather sealed. That's an S or Canon L lens, they come fast and big, or slow and small, and you're free to choose.

[@gerdetandil09]

The 14-30 is the only lens that has an 82mm filter thread at 14mm full frame. Not Canon, Not Sony, Not Panasonic, Not Fujifilm, Not Sigma, Not Tamron, Not any other cheap, smelly brand. Only at Nikon.

[@Thefiguremultiverse]

I'm getting ready to buy the nikon z6 II. I want to start making money and saving money on my listings by taking my own photos and video I also would like to practice my portrait photography at the same time. What lens would you suggest I get for both? I'm coming from a nikon d3400 that I've been practicing on for a year now by the way.

[@giovanniraebiger2354]

S is meaning sealed or not ?

[@Illuminationsfromtheattic]

I've been shooting with the 14-24 for a month now, - gave it a review on my channel last week. It's an awesome lens!

[@jakegreenephoto]

A rare video of Jared not shitting on Nikon. What a relief 😅

[@rlee7597]

I'm looking forward to this lens to complete my trinity. I just got the 70-200mm for the Z mount and it is so sharp. Love the pro glass FINALLY coming out for the Z line.

[@kunaltewari8059]

The reason why 14-30 f/4 is S line because of its optics and high quality landscape images that comes out of it. As someone who has shot with this lens capturing landscapes, I can surely say its top of the line lens. Sure f/2.8 works great in certain scenarios but for landscapes its doesn't matter as long as the image coming out of it is amazing.

[@indrajitadvani3742]

I have Nikon F-mount 14-24 2.8. Should I sell it and buy Nikon Z-mount equivalent?

[@ericerickson6537]

I have the 14-30 and love the lens. It is really good. Great for travel.

[@MyNorthAmetican40]

Is like to see if you could tell the difference at f 4 and greater between the two lenses

[@danangseta]

Do you think canon nifty fifty should be an L lens because it is 1.8?

[@JuanRojas956]

What do you recommend.. the 14-24 f2.8 F mount OR the 14-30 f4 Z mount? they are both the same price if I buy the 14-24 f mount used

[@DanielSensual]

Thank you for all this content, I have been watching you over the past year and your content is awesome! I saw your review on the z50 and when I lost my A7III and I couldn’t afford to get another I decided to pull the trigger on the z50 instead based on your review. 🙏🏽

[@MichaelFemia]

Am I missing something, or is there not a variable neutral density filter available in 112mm? I'm a video guy, and that's would make it more difficult for me to use the 2.8.

[@bernardohoppcentner7900]

Jared, according to your comments, the f4 glass seems to be a "mediocre" glass. But would I benefit from the 2,8 glass on a Z6? Would I tell any difference?? (no need for hughe prints).

[@cas7155021]

I have both. The f4 is by no means mediocre. I would describe them in comparison to the rest of what was available as Excellent and superb. In practice after post you won’t see much or any difference depending on the subject/conditions. Straight out of the camera the f2.8 files have a bit more contrast and colour. You won’t go wrong with either and the choice depends on your priorities/budget. F4 it’s light and you can use 100mm standard filters. F2.8 extra stop - better corner sharpness - files can look better in terms of pop straight from the camera but those differences can disappear when files are processed. I tend to use my f4 more because of convenience.

[@bernardohoppcentner7900]

@@cas7155021 Charles, thanks a lot. Made my decision so much easier.

[@techhead976]

It’s crazy how photography has become a price comparison field, Look at me I have most expensive lens out there and still capture photos you could get with a basic 50mm 1.8 lol.

[@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST]

Right? When we think about it, most pictures we see in lens reviews could've been taken with a nifty-fifty or even a kit lens. I mean, only God would know what lens was used. 😁 In the end, people just care about the pictures, not what was used to make them.

[@techhead976]

@@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Nailed it.

[@zanbacak6051]

Hi, I'm interested in the Sigma AF 70-200mm f/2.8 D EX APO HSM Zoom Lens for Nikon and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the macro version can be used the same way as the normal one with the addition of shooting macro. I appreciate any help.

[@harryburnett7086]

Manny really likes the Z II's , even the eye autofocus is strong and competitive

[@parislove3084]

Jared, I have a question about using wide lenses while recording on the z6. It seems to be a problem with the edges popping in and out when you are trying to do like rotating movement around the subject ( 35mm and below ). I went to my local camera shop and they had no answers for me. Hoping to have your help on this matter. I even have raw footage I can share of the problem.

[@shethmaulik2007]

Hi Jared, When Sigma 70-200 f2.8 for Sony e mount is coming ?

[@Roy-pf8vg]

Finally the review I’ve been waiting for..I hope I won’t feel bad of buying the 14-30 few days ago after seeing this comparison 😅

[@alessandrosparapan1081]

You won't, you bought a fantastic lens. You have more range, a more compact glass and a more affordable filter size, missing only a stop of light. Plus you saved 1'300$

[@prashantgaikwad2180]

Whats up with Gpro colors from the Nikons?

[@joshrosefilms]

Wait, how are you editing DNG files in LR out of the Z6ii?

[@solidstream13]

I like that the 14-30 has a more usable walk around focal length. 24-30mm is a good street focal length.

[@videojeroki]

Is the Nikon Z series autofocus (tracking/face detection) better than a Canon EOS 800D or Olympus EM5 mkII? If yes, I could be interested because I don't have (m)any issues focusing on those two.

[@erwinc.9117]

I think honestly these lenses are for different people. Both are great in terms of quality, but one has more range (30 Vs 24 is quite a difference), much smaller and lighter, but sacrifices aperture, while the other is the opposite. It's a pick and choose process, unlike how a lot of other 2.8 Vs 4 lenses which boils down to only about how much money you have in the pocket.

[@TheVictoryLap365]

Can we get a comparison of the Nikon 14-24 vs Sigma 14-24 for Sony?

[@froknowsphoto]

what are you looking to see?

[@TheVictoryLap365]

@@froknowsphoto sharpness, focus, chromatic aberration the norm I guess and sample images if possible I think it’s the only two new lenses that can match up focal range and aperture it would be great plus sigma might create one for Nikon although I’m not a Nikon shooter it will stir up the internet overall

[@Joshwaa_s]

Any reason the comparison was just against the sony 12-24 in terms of build? Just thinking that canons 15-35 on RF may lose 1mm at the wide (and gain 11 at the long lets not forget) but gains the use of just an 82mm filter. I don't have an ultrawide in my setup yet but love to shoot astro, so highly likely I'd wait longer and take this over the F4!

[@ricardoherring8061]

It's possible to achieve bokeh with the Nikon z50 kit lens (16-50mm)???

[@JayGreezy]

I went with the 14-30 due mainly to the cost. I'm an amateur photographer so the need for me for the 2.8 just isn't really there. And I really can't fork out 2500 bucks for any lenses (except maybe the 70-200 if it ever comes out). I've had success with the 14-30 in my shooting so far, and will continue to use the f4 lenses until my skills can justify more "pro" glass. Love the videos Jared.

[@romanpul]

Same here. I just upgraded from the 24-70 f4 to the f2.8 and will also get the 70-200 soon, but as of now I‘m not considering to upgrade to the 14-24. I mainly shoot UWA at f5.6 and above and usually from a tripod so I don‘t see an advantage in for me personally. And considering that it’s only a f4 the 14-30 does a pretty good job at astro on the Z6

[@JayGreezy]

@@romanpul if you're doing astro on the z6 I've heard the 20mm prime is one of the better astro lenses and it's only a grand. Just throwing that out there, I feel like primes do a little better with astro in general

[@romanpul]

@@JayGreezy Sure the 20mm does a lot better at astro. Wouldn’t argue about that but the 14-30 does pretty good on that as well. If you’re only doing occasional astro I‘d say the 14-30 is probably the better option as it is generally more versatile but for a deeper dive into astro you’re better off with the 20mm

[@Zap09060]

Hey Jared, request you to compare these 2 with Sigma 14-24 F2.8

[@marydoo7311]

Got the f/2.8, also a B+W 112mm CPL. Will need to go out to check it out. Thanks.

[@leoyan4847]

Ayyyyy!!!!! Great vid!

[@ignaciosandovalburon7340]

Why don't you do the same with the S 24-70mm f/4 and f/2.8? Please!

[@lsaideOK]

Great review! Love the enthusiasm.

[@fernandostarfit6411]

Still struggling to decide 14-30+20mm or 14-24mm, recommendation? Price is just similar

[@AlanHoey86]

I think if nightscapes/milkway is a big consideration for you then I'd personally go with the 14-30mm/20mm combo.

[@tyd7871]

Of course 14-24 2.8 otherwise you shoot milky way every day.

[@fernandostarfit6411]

@@tyd7871 not clear to me since 20mm without star trails can‘t shoot as long as 14mm, the difference in aperture may just be compensated

[@Cheb211]

Where is the 24-70 2.8 comparison

[@eagledronesolutions]

Hey "Fro", just a heads up, I tried to use one of your affiliate links for the "wheeled bag" and it shows not available.

[@stefansand1260]

If you don't like that "crop" the camera is doing shooting in 14mm you can easily turn it off in the camera settings. This is made in the "Photo Shooting Menu" and "Vignette Control"

[@amatore6]

Thanks for the video. I thought you can't turn off lens correction on the Z files.

[@Gwayneeee]

I have the 14-24mm F/2.8 for Nikon dsrl. I’ll definitely be getting that one as well when I jump for mirrorless!

[@michaelf7742]

Thanks for the video 👍 How compares this Nikon z lense to the Canon RF and Sony GM lense?

[@rvernick00]

Ok, you're editing DNG files in Lightroom from the Z6ii - How? Adobe doesn't support the Z6ii NEF files yet so assuming you're using one of the publicly known hacks to convert. What's your process??? Inquiring minds want to know!!

[@fabioinserra9981]

Ho letto molte recensioni del 14 30. Bisogna essere fortunati, perché in commercio ci sono esemplari poco performanti, e a quanto sembra, è un obiettivo che presenta una distorsione pazzesca, corretta in camera, ma con notevole perdita di nitidezza ai bordi. Sto aspettando qualche recensione in Italia, di questo 14 24,per capire se la nitidezza ai bordi è accettabile. Ho visto il video, qualcosina ho capito. Ciao grazie

[@robgustin1487]

D850 Firmware updated. CFexpress now supported.

[@larryhaley3]

this lens looks amazing! i love nikon and fro! Great content with a few smiles and laughs along the way!

[@michapiotrstankiewicz1504]

Fuji has one lens with green ring on X mount. They have red plate on 8-15, 16-55, 50-140

[@TasteofTaboo]

the 14-30 f4 plus 20mm f 1,8 might be much more practical in reality for the same price or even less

[@mcmoose64]

What's the difference between the Hebrew trinity and the regular trinity? Lens hood ?

[@SteelRiderCarl]

From everything I see here, I'm digging the 14-30mm f/4 S. And I have to agree on the natural bowing characteristics of the wide angle. When I picked my first ultra wide, an EF 20-35mm f/3.5-4.5 USM, I picked it in part because it had more of that natural effect. It also flares pretty heavily, but I dig it.

[@schezwansauce1138]

Well I'll probably have the f4 s line trinity instead because im hella broke

[@HR-wd6cw]

FYI I don't think the 14-30 can be uncorrected,. I tried to turn off lens corrections when I shot the 14-30 on one of my Z II bodies, and couldn't. LR at least said it was still using the built-in profile, so some/camera combos (with the Z II bodies ) cannot have the built-in lens corrections turned off. (I think the same is true for the 24-200 lens too on the Z II bodies). I will say that for landscape shooters, the 14-30 can be a good value. The advantage of the 2.8 14-24 would be for those who maybe want to shoot astro, as it does buy you another stop, but as pointed out, that extra stop does cost you a fair amount of money (almost 2x the amount of the 14-30).

[@KGi4]

i think 14-30mm f4 s is the winner. Just because 14mm 82mm filter thread and compact size and of course PRICE. If you dont shoot in low light or astro photography its the lens to go. I am definitely getting 14-30 over 14-24. That 112mm filter thread is a JOKE :D

[@keoniland]

Here we are!

[@oliverlane4050]

Looks great for certain use cases, personally I’m really happy with the 14-30. This focal range is probably only 5% of my shooting so currently couldn’t justify the price of the 2.8. However I’m sure I would if money was no object.

[@carlw8072]

For landscapes there’s very little difference between these 2 lens, Thomas Heaton did a test and concluded that the f4 gives more or less the same image, and it costs a lot less and is ideal for landscapes as it’s so light, what jarred is doing is really city photography, he should have gone out to shoot proper landscapes.

[@Charlatan1974]

its was about time!!! I waited more than 100 review to see Jared to take a shower 😂 Min3.59' Legendary

[@soulfuricacid2699]

will this SERIOULSY be part of your travelling kit Jared???.....price is MY main friend right now bro....love the vids

[@andreasbuder4417]

I still don’t understand, why they went for 14mm instead of 12mm. So there is still no native zoom choice for wider than 14mm on Nikon Z.

[@richvi-p2o]

Has anyone compared the sigma 14-24mm f2.8 HSM art with the Nikon 14-24mm f2.8S yet?

[@quarantined9567]

I believe the S designation from Nikon is also about them being weather-sealed. That's what my local dealer told me.

[@123413sid]

The display is great for focusing at night for landscape

[@rayacosta3510]

Why do you hate fuji?

[@tonylevoyageur]

The display screen is probably a good signe to know that it's a high end lens. Maybe!!!

[@Mr09260]

Thanks for this great Video Jared

[@3akoscielski]

I love the way you talk about Nikon here. I can tell the Nikon fanboys have really annoyed you over the past year (same though). They make great gear, but man do some of their fans have it out for you... Hopefully you can get yourself a Z9 and really love it enough to shoot more Nikon stuff considering you love the lenses so much. I'm happy to see their camera engineers finally catching up to their lens engineers.

[@justfadezbarbershop7263]

Shootin Astro that OLED is a really nice to have

[@drbirdie]

How the crap are you editing photos from the z6ii? I have a pile of NEFs that I can't do anything with, and it is making me sad.

[@Phillies112233]

are you going to do a z7ii review?

[@TasteofTaboo]

I had the 14-24 F Mount. I never shoot it below f8, used it for interior and I needed everything in focus. f2.8 makes only sense for astro.

[@barryobrien1890]

It would be interesting to see a comparison of the holy Trinity of lenses from canon Sony and Nikon as glass is still more important than af or card slots

[@romanpul]

That would indeed be an interesting comparison since that all have different strengths and weaknesses.

[@smashexentertainment676]

Canon has EF 16-35, 17-40, 24-105, 24-70, 70-200 all f4 and alternatives for most of them f2.8, all L lenses. So why can't Nikon do the same?

[@lsaideOK]

I think he wants it to have a U for ultimate.

[@acekabogen]

I'd give the same criticism to Canon, however, it must be remembered that for both they aren't as much choosing to put f/4s and f/2.8s in the same bracket, but rather that when those f/4 lenses were developed, they were the standard for professional glass, and so they landed in the pro line/bracket.

[@frankfeng2701]

I would love a 14-30 for E mount.

[@ronaldakins5338]

The black out time also needs to get on par with other high end cameras.

[@robertleidner9703]

I’ve been using the z6 ii for a month now and it’s not an issue. It’s way better then a SLR and didn’t worry much about it then.

[@michaelf7742]

@@robertleidner9703 Has it really improved much in AF compared to the Z6?

[@robertleidner9703]

@@michaelf7742 never used the Z6. I’m just saying the blackout has not interrupted shooting for me. Also that its less then my DSLR’s.