Nikon Z fc - This is not the APS-C system you're looking for (probably)

[@AnthonyHarwood]

After watching your video I was not in a hurry to give this camera a try. But now that I have, I'm glad I did. I love it.

[@Blah-blah-sure]

As a casual user pouring over reviews. I think the problem is that the Zfc is being compared to more upscale cameras. But those doing so don’t consider the price difference. Ex. A used Fuji Xt4 starts at $1200. Camera only. Whereas the Zfc brand new costs $1165. With lens

[@PhilThach]

Thanks for the video. Not everyone is going to agree. Here are some of my thoughts. The 16-50 lens is actually really great as long as you don't need a fast lens. For landscape photography, where this camera shines, the 16-50 is really great. It's sharp, light and, because of that awesome collapsable feature that you call a non-starter, it's tiny and takes up very little space in your bag. For vlogging the Z fc is very good, I've never used the X-S10 that you said might be a good alternative but if its video auto-focus is as bad about wandering off to la-la land as the X-T3 that I had and sold is, then I'd say there is no comparison. Once the Z fc (or any Nikon Z camera) has your face, it will not lose it. You should try it! Where the Nikon cameras suffer is audio quality. This can be fixed in post but it is truly a pain. If you record audio separately, it's no problem. I really enjoy your channel and I have the wrist strap that I purchased on your ETSY attached to my Z fc right now. :)

[@jasonandrews7355]

This is awesome! Goes to show that an unusable camera for one person might be the perfect tool for another. Happy shooting :)

[@PhilThach]

@@jasonandrews7355 Thanks, Jason. I do agree with Andrew about many things in this video. The selection of Z DX lenses being chief among the Z fc and Z50s shortcomings. The camera doesn't feel as cheap as he describes though, except for the battery door, I have to agree, that feels very cheap. The top dials actually feel and sound nice to me. I do really like my Z fc but the perfect tool for me is a Canon R6 or R5 with a nice collection of RF mount L series glass. Now that is perfection, at least until they overheat... LOL Thanks for the nice comment, Jason. Happy shooting to you as well!

[@lourivera913]

I agree Phil. I own a D850, D780 and now a Z fc. I own an assortment of Nikon G 1.4 lenses as well as the 2.8 zoom holy trinity. That 16-50 z lens is very sharp and I'm very impressed with it's contrast and tiny profile when collapsed down. Definitely a very good lens.

[@psysword]

Guy has no idea what's he talking about.

[@andyh2561]

I agree with you. I sold Fuji x-s10 and got Zfc for better autofocus. I absolutely love the Nikon kit lens, too. Funny thing is, after I got Smallrig grip, a lot of cheap feeling in my hand is gone. Only thing I miss from my Fuji is old 35mm f1.4 lens 😊

[@FotosyMas.]

I’m new to Nikon and I’ve been shooting the Zfc for a couple of weeks now. I’ve owned many Fuji cameras including x-t3, x-Pro3 and x100v. I agree with you that the built quality is disappointing. Feels very plasticky and that battery door is a joke. The implementation of the analog dials is also awkward. You have to dig in the menus to change ISO to auto. Cmon Nikon! With all that in mind, I have come to the conclusion that this camera produces way better images than any of my Fujis ever did. I don’t know what it is but photos look cleaner, sharper, more “organic”. I have a feeling it has to do with the bayer filter array being able to resolve more fine detail. The small kit lens is surprisingly good. Very sharp and in my opinion much better than the xf 18-55mm Fuji kit lens. Yes, the “unlock to shoot” gets annoying but I guess a price to pay for compactness. Overall I’m very happy with this camera. I’m considering getting a full frame Z and built a kit where I can buy full frame lenses and use them on both Zfc and whatever FF body I go with. You can’t do that with Fuji X system.

[@kimrandall5349]

Mr Fotos...wow my experience with this Zfc vs many Fuji cameras I have owned is EXACTLY the same. I have owned nearly every version of the X100 still have the V, Had an XT2, XT3 too.still have an XT20 had an XE2..To cut a long story short SOMETHING about the Nikon files in both jpeg AND raw seem so much better to me than any Fuji I have owned. Matter of fact if anything, I'd say oddly, I'm a Fuji fan boy but lately I am plain tired of Fuji color where Nikon IMO just looks RIGHT, and beautiful and close to accurate/ and funny, esp Caucasian skin tones which many say is Fuji's forte. I MUCH prefer Nikon and the Zfc vs my Fujis.. I agree with Andrew on build quality not being great on the Z fc but somehow doesn't bother me. I further agree and maybe I had a bad copy my Fuji 18-55 was horrid and lifeless and over-hyped...though this kit Nikon lens is plasticy etc...it has great micro contrast, and is sharper than a tack..nice Bokeh too..when you can get it. The only reason I don't sell my X100V is it IS built like a tank.."it's a beautiful camera" with a very good lens now but I just cant stand Fuji color anymore nothing looks right to me. Yeah vivid for maybe landscapes, flowers..but Provia, Astia..people look martian to me now...and CHECK out the whites of people's eyes with the XTrans..often it will have a lot of skin tone somehow blended in with the white. Nikon and the Zfc just takes great pictures. Anyway sorry for the Novel. As to the review here it IS on point, but at the end of the day it just may be the FILES that are most important and to my eyes the Zfc is SO much better as to output vs any Fuji I have had... Yup big weak point I admit, Nikon needs a ton more lenses for this little guy and APS-C however not gonna lie. :)

[@FotosyMas.]

@@kimrandall5349 wow I feel the same about Fuji colors. I went from rabid fanboy to despising Fuji colors. They look like Instagram filters to me. I’ve seen the issue with skin blending into the eyes!!! I’ve owned 2 X100V, they are beautiful machines but again I couldn’t stand Fuji images any longer. I just can’t believe how much better this Zfc IQ is over Fuji. I’m in shock.

[@kimrandall5349]

Hey Dr. Fotos...it's great to have company that we both feel the same on Fuji colors. When I first got into Fuji WAY back...actually I loved LOVED the colors. But yeah that high contrasty deep black stuff esp if using a provia even Astia to a degree gets tiring. I don't want to get too far off point here as in many ways Andrew's review of the Zfc is spot on. ESP the flimsy battery door it's SO thin. But in other ways the fc...is the camera I want to pick up and use while my x100v stays home looking all pretty in it's case. REALLY. The FC is light but I find it a plus as a take with you anywhere camera. Again the kit lens is just super sharp...well guess I'm repeating. I got back into Nikon as in the old days I owned a D40 and D90 Slrs. I noticed going thru some older pics one night, esp on skin tones everything looked great and real and FILTER-less unlike Fuji. So I did bite the bullet and get the Z6II which to me is off the charts great. I have had other FF cams...several Sonys, still own the Pana S5..but because of the FILES!, I take the Z6II vs my S5 the only other FF cam I still own.. Back to THIS review so SOMETIMES I want a lighter camera to JUST take with me vs using a phone. The ZFc fits this bill perfectly.. Fc-HAS the Nikon files and color but is way light, a PLUS and handles great, hah even auto focus is VERY good...I don't do video btw I am just talking photography... I still love Fuji but if there is a way to get files to not look so Fuji, I'm all ears...Even in raw I find I'm fussing WAY too much with color/Fuji...NOT so with Nikon...Anyway sorry for droning on, and YEAH a big negative is skin tone sometimes bleeding into whites of the eyes in some/not all pics of portraits taken with all my Fujis...Be well..thx for the opinion company here lol

[@jtes1442]

The ZFc was not marketed as a serious tool but rather a casual camera. However, you're right about the lens situation that it's severely limited. If I got it I would have to go with the viltrox lenses like the 23 1.4 and 56 1.4 which would go well.

[@TawaraboshiGenba]

This is not the review I was looking for. But it's the review that I needed.

[@lens2optic]

The image quality from this camera is excellent . I own a viltrox 13mm prime and the kit lens supplied , and both are excellent . I previously owned an nikon full frame with a variety of lenses and it does not come close to the image quality out of camera with the nikon z fc . The best camera i could have bought .

[@thomassantomartino7337]

I am a prosumer user, I've been paid for my photography services in the past as well as being involved on Flickr. My primary camera is a Canon EOS 80D. I like the Z fc and bought it because I had been a SLR user and loved the nostalgic quality of it. I also added a grip which makes it feel more substantial. I bought this as a secondary, walk around camera. When I don't want to lug around a heavy camera I'll use this now. It is also less noticeable in a crowd and less intimidating than a bigger DSLR or other prosumer cameras, so it's good for street shooting. I loved the look of this camera that I bought a Nikon and I'm a Canon shooter. I'm having fun with it, and that's why I bought it, because it's fun. I even bought the Godox Senior Lux flash for it. So if I want something fun and light to take, I'm putting this in my camera bag.

[@andikunar7183]

I think you overlooked a use-case where the Z fc really shines. A Z fc (with e.g. a 28/2.8 as kit) as cheap/inconspicuous secondary Nikon body to play with Nikon mirrorless and also with cheap 3rd party MF APS-C glass. I'm an experienced Nikon DSLR user (D850, previously D800, Df, D700, etc.) with quite a few Nikkors and accessories who until now did not do mirrorless. To me the Z fc was the perfect low-cost entry into Nikon mirrorless (initially thinking only about Z 28/2.8 kit + FTZ adapted lenses), and with a small, very inconspicuous/non-pro looking body. I've had the Z fc+28/2.8 since launch, used it quite a bit and really like it. Yes, initially I was disappointed by the APS-C choice. But APS-C has shown some major advantages for me a) a smaller body, b) the small/cheap APS-C TTArtisan 50/1.2 (and probably more to come), and c) a FTZ-adapted 85/1.4G gives me a really modern 135/2.0 look, something I cannot get on full-frame DSLRs to the same extent (the Z fc + FTZ + 85/1.4G performs really nice with eye-AF). E.g. I was shooting portraits/fashion with the Z fc + TTArtisan 50/1.2 (giving me a 75/1.8 look) in a hotel garden or around a tiny village as portfolio work. Without causing any notice/disturbances - something which would not work with my normal favorite D850+105/1.4 combo. All the time using my Nikon experience for fine-tuning the cam-handling and having my existing FTZ-adapted Nikkor glass + my Profoto A1 for Nikon still available as options (which I would not have with non-Nikon mirrorless).

[@acecreates]

Man, you've nailed my demographic information! I'm pretty much everything on that list except I'm Australian and I do t have a disposable income. Its a beautiful camera, but not for me. Im still loving my fujifilm xt1 & xt3 with vintage glass. Great video, Andrew!

[@TheVFXbyArt]

…still rocking the xt3 here too!

[@1990geddes]

Andrew firstly I have always loved your channel. I get where you are coming from it being plasticky I bought the zfc without touching it having had an fm2 which I loved and my df dying (rip) but i actually enjoy the zfc a lot. I personally got the 28mm kit which was available in australia and have used the ftz with some older glass and it's become my family day to day camera. Honestly if you can try it with the 28mm do it it's a nicer experience. Personally what I would love is a new ftz with a motor drive for my old afd primes. Also viltrox has recently released the same primes available on fuji for the nikon z mount which provides some options. Also to clarify I'm a longtime nikon user so maybe I'm bias

[@gvz1538]

Andrew, It's great to hear a review from you (lots of us miss you and Denae), and thank you for your very honest assessment of the fc. The X-T4 & X100V bring me joy, as does the Nikon FA & FM2n. Some other cameras do not have that joy factor which is key in whether it is a keeper, or if it gets returned / sold in rather quick order. Thanks again, and take care.

[@trevor9934]

I find your perspective a very interesting one, and as one who fits into your first demographic, I think it has merit. I am not quite in the main part of that as I am retired and 69, but still highly active and engaged in creating images for my own enjoyment. I started my photographic career 40 years ago and shot a combo on Nikon F3 and Canon A-1 units to do industrial, travel, wildlife and commercial photography in NZ, Oz, Asia and North America. I went digital about 2002 and have chose to go with Canon because the glass offered benefits for my specific purposes. Once engaged with a system, as time and investment goes on, it becomes increasingly costly to switch brands. However, I did buy the Nikon Df (plus a couple of lenses) specifically for a couple of reasons: one the ergonomics produced an experience that took me back to the earlier days and it made me slow down: to make the process of taking an image an occasion in its own right. This unit had the excellent FF sensor of the flagship D4, tweaked for low-light performance, so it performed. I found the early criticism levelled at this model as indicating that those people did not understand the true nature of the unit. It abandoned the traditional DSLR mantra in favour of making a digital version of a classic camera series, and did so without apology. Yet, it had great imaging, was built like a tank and fulfilled the niche in my space for a fun camera - but it was not my go-to unit for most work. The Zfc seems to be an effort to cash into the retro style, and perhaps respond to some of the criticism of the Df levelled by the non-legacy community, but FOR ME misses the mark because: 1) it is not using a flagship FF sensor, thus (as you say) it relegates it to using cheaper crop-sensor lenses or having a bulky adaptor. 2) It does not have the same quality of build as its ancestor. I still have the two Df units and they will remain to scratch that retro itch. These were capable cameras when produced and their performance has not changed over time, despite what marketing may suggest. As you alluded to, a lot of people buy on the basis of what is offered and hyped, rather than what they need. I used to teach service management and included in that was the process of how to focus on value to make good purchasing decisions. There is a lot of muddy thinking about value. The concepts I am exploring are not specific to photography: they are used by fortune 500 companies to buy everything from paper clips to new buildings. A FEATURE: is a characteristic specific to a product or service, but has no inherent relationship to any specific user It can be be expressed by the phrase: "this is what we have, is it any use to you?" A BENEFIT: is specific to the potential purchaser and represents something that will either improve their performance, or mitigate a limit to their performance. This could be expressed by the line by the Spice Girls: "Tell me what you want, what you REALLY, REALLY want!" VALUE: is only achieved when you can map a specific feature to a specific benefit. So, to give an example. The Zfc has an ability to shoot 4k video - that's a FEATURE. However, since I don't shoot video it does not map to a benefit I need, so it has no value in my buying evaluation. On the other hand, it has a flip LCD and I actually find that valuable: the benefits being to protect the LCD when not required, and to help me get down very low, or shoot above my head. However it is not sufficient for me to invest in a new system. The following process works: 1. Establish Your Criteria: Define BENEFITS you want, rank them in priority: MUST HAVE, Want, would be nice... 2. Research for Products: Find products that have FEATURES the match your benefits list 3. Compare and Filter: Remove any that don’t match your “must have” criteria 4. Reduce the list to 2-3. 5. Evaluate: Try out the gear with a hands-on evaluation 6. Make your purchase: Shop around for good deals from reliable vendors that support local warranties.

[@_parkphoto]

The feeling I get from Nikon with this camera: "...because people don't actually use vintage-looking cameras for serious work." The feeling I get from Fujifilm when I use their cameras (for serious work): "...why do people assume vintage-looking cameras can't be used for serious work?" And that difference I think inspires the results we see.

[@theflyest203]

Viltrox makes a trio of 1.4’s native apsc lenses for zfc 23mm, 33mm, 56mm

[@tonygreenwoodN10]

Good, honest, straightforward review!

[@atroche1978]

Beautiful camera

[@ryanbeer5262]

Thanks for being brutally honest. As someone who's frustrated with Fuji's refusal to give more tele prime options, probably headed back to Nikon. It's between this camera & z5

[@lidelong5513]

You nailed it. I bought yesterday a Nikon Coolpix A. I find more and more fascination for 10 year old cameras, which combine the functionality of a DSLR with the form factor of an IPhone 4. Unfortunately, camera manufacturers don’t get it. If Panasonic would create a Lumix GM5 Mark 2 I would immediately buy it. No IBIS and video required. A better EVF and improved sensor with all kinds of manual controls including the very user friendly touch screen menus would turn it into a photographic powerhouse in your palm. Sony is using the same back dial on all of it’s mirrorless six thousand series, as other manufacturers do. It’s the recycling of components for economy of scale. We are not in an evolutionary cycle, but devolution. Only Fujifilm stands out in same regard. I still believe the XT2 is the best camera in terms of overall performance next to the very snappy x100V.

[@lidelong5513]

That lens is a no-go as the Lumix kit lens, too. Just plastic fantastic cheap. And that is why it’s there. Profit maximizing getting people into the system

[@JuzTroublez]

Hey I totally get it. When I got my hands on my very first film camera (Minolta XE5), even though it was decades old and didn't have any modern capabilities, the HEFT and quality of that thing inspired the heck outta me to use it day and night. That word. HEFT. Is no longer a word we associate with cameras anymore. The DSLR were just big. And mirrorless cameras are small and light. There was something about old school cameras that was SMALL but had substance. It was the coolest thing.

[@TB-up4xi]

1:13 - you're freaking me out man......nailed every single demographic.......except one ....I'm tuning in from Australia (and late to the chanel)

[@VlcekMartin]

Firstly Andrew you hit me exactly with your demographics analysis. I am 45, I take photos in my free time as a hobby. This Nikon Z fc at first glance looks exciting but after you try you change quickly your opinion. At first I though this Z fc will be similar to Nikon Df, which was and still is a good full frame camera, but the APS-C sensor in Z fc is disappointing. I took pictures with Nikon and I still take pictures with it on film but not in case of digital. For F-mount and now also for Z-mount I am missing a wide range of good DX lenses for APS-C sensor size. For Nikon, the APS-C sensor is just a way to attract new customers and persuade them to switch to a full frame and not a full-fledged system for a variety of photographic needs. I am now very happy with Fuji cameras and especially with their XF lenses. I have six of them and they are really wonderful. So thank you for this video and I am looking forward for another. Have a great time and good luck. Greetings also to Denae.

[@as616]

I have an FE2 and love it. I was excited when I first saw the photos of the Z fc. But using 1983 as a guide, for this to be a modern FE2 (pro-summer compared to the F3), they would have needed to stuff the Z 5 internals in it. Instead what we got was an L35AF in an FE2 body.

[@stevemphoto]

My thoughts exactly...I wish this camera was full frame as well!!! That would have been a great differentiator. I of course am not a full frame is greater than APS-C guy...but I like shooting vintage lenses and even adapting M lenses. Also, being able to use Nikon's vast lens line up would have been awesome as well. This being full frame and releasing a few compact prime lenses like Sony has, would have won me over!

[@andikunar7183]

I thought similarly (having liked the Df except for it's AF). But now I think APS-C was the better choice - a smaller/inconspicious-looking body and playing with the cheap 3rd party MF lenses like the TTArtisan 50/1.2 on mirrorless (focus-peeking, always "seeing" the aperture) is far more fun than even the old Nikkors. And the Z fc + FTZ + 85/1.4G gives me an amazing 135/2.0 look with Eye-AF for portraits. No regrets on buying the Z fc + 28/2.8 kit at launch.

[@victorlim5077]

The Compact primes have arrived. Nikkor 40mm F2 and 28mm F2.8. There is even a pancake 26mm on the Nikon Z Roadmap ad well as 2 new DX lenses. I am sure the Full Frame Zf will come eventually.

[@joeltunnah]

@@andikunar7183 putting an FTZ plus G lens on this camera completely destroys the vintage look and feel, which is the whole appeal of it.

[@andikunar7183]

@@joeltunnah I agree, this why I like the Z 28+40, Viltrox 56/1.4 and the Chinese MF Z lenses best. But optically the 85/1.4G+FTZ gives me a very interesting look with eyeAF (really liked the 135/2 on my Df). To me personally the only reason for a FTZ (got it discounted 2nd hand) on a Zfc, even if this makes the cam look weird.

[@fs582]

Hi Andrew I love the way you approach things. Great honest opinion. So sad we have so little of that now. Wish you haven't moved on. But that's life. Great hug to you and Denae. Still waiting more uploads on this channel. Don't forget us. You have a lot of faithful friends...🙋‍♂️🇩🇪

[@RamonLinares]

I read it's being a hit in Japan. I guess Nikon had a very specific market sector in mind when they developed it and we are not part of it but that doesn't mean that it cannot be successful.

[@randallbrander8157]

Having problems getting any new lenses with this pandemic. But I do use the full frame lenses on this camera and they are wonderful. Especially the F1.8 Primes. I like the camera for its size also. Portability is a must for me. Lot of places I go will not let me use a good camera like the Z6ii, Z5 or even the Z50 but I have Small Rig cages on them. But when I bring the Z fc they think it might be an old film camera. I like the USB C plugged into the wall via an Apple 30 Power Adapter and keeping charged while it is on. Lot of people do not like the LSC flippy screen but I do but when shooting pics I close it and use the EVF mainly. That might be another reason why I can bring this camera into a store with me because I have the screen facing in the camera and the back of the panel blends with the camera plastic exterior. Plus I like the weight of it and the touch screen plus buttons and dials of the Nikon system. I bought adapters to share my Sony APSC lenses to mount on this camera and they work but not as fast as the Z mount lenses. But the picture quality is excellent. The only problem I see is getting my hands on extra EL-EN25 batteries which I will not pay a fortune for like the video cards for pc which are outrageous.

[@WhiteWulfe]

Oof, the pain as you talked about the camera is rather noticeable... Pain that it had so much promise, but just didn't deliver to the expectations you had of it. While it's priced at an interesting price, for $175 CAD more I can get an X100V that absolutely screams "take me home, then we shall go on plenty of adventures together!" it's a rather tough sell to me... So much so it didn't even get past the "oh, that's neat" phase and make it through my typical initial research I literally had to come up with excuses to not consider the X100F when I was last at my local camera store (although in my defense, having the UI disappear when wearing polarized sunglasses and you rotate the camera... That is kind of a big thing, potentially), while I'm fairly certain the X100V removes every last niggle I had with the previous design (Fuji also did this with the X-T3 to X-T4)

[@poniatowski3547]

Thanks for being honest. You're right it is not a camera designed for you. Sales figures say its a banger. Its for a different generation. I was excited at first but I want a FF Z f like you so we just have to wait and see. The fact that its been successful bodes well though. We may very well see a Z f - it just wont be a a cheap camera - buts thats ok - I want a digital F3 and happy to pay for it - but that's just me.

[@meneerhalfwerk7096]

He wasn't honest, the Z-mount adapts all lenses from ages back, and APS-C not having great lenses yet is utterly bullshit, it takes very much a high advantage from the center sharpness of full frame lenses.

[@DerbyMods]

The second you said it was plasticity I knew it wasn't for me, I love the feel of the cold metal on my hands during winter photoshoots and I'd rather get the Z50 if it's not the same feel as my old film cameras.

[@barryobrien1890]

Wow you missed me completely. I have a z7 and a bunch of z glass, but I do not like taking out my big camera when I go out on a family trip or evening. I love the ZFc for that. The lenses are great and I can a z lens if I need. I love the 16 to 55 as it's super compact, stabilized and af. It's super sharp and if I loose it I don't really mind. It has allowed me to use it in a lot of places that my z7 and big lens would not be allowed. The best part is I can shoot with usbc power which means it's perfect for hq zoom calls. I love the look. I would not like a FF version as my z7 is much more practical with its fn buttons dials etc and I will move to z9 in time. I will keep my ZFc for casual work and video. I agree if this was your only camera then you would be better off with a z50 unless you like taking your time and like the manual aspects. Good video, but I think you missed the z shooter that does not want to lug a big camera but wants more than a phone, with familiar settings

[@UrbanoModa]

I feel your passion for the Film camera, I came from film, but new age gear is never going to be as metal and as less plastic feeling as older gear. It was a steel and metal eras back in the day. It's great that you explained the reasons for why people use cameras and it's use, that's a refreshing topic. I feel sorry for Nikon on this Z Fc, as I have empathy with the vision and idea as it is very appealing visually; but I haven't seen any good reviews about this camera. Maybe it's been too under-appreciated and slated because of the market place and time when it was launched compared to what else was out in the market. I.E Sony and Fujifilm? I personally would love to see you out and about with the cameras again, like when you did the classic negative in a small town, or the Xt20 style works you did 3 Years ago. I personally feel people are thankfully starting to get bored with tech spec and gear insights, and taking photos and how experienced people shoot in the field as a hobby is becoming great again? As always a great channel, and appreciated. I hope all is well with you and your close ones.

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

While I agree the steel camera era is over, there is no reason a camera needs to feel plasticy. Look at the x100v or the x-pro 3. Definitely a lot of out and about style videos coming. My only constraint was summer and kids home from school.

[@UrbanoModa]

@@AndrewGoodCamera yes I got the point about the plastic , it's lame and nasty. Looking forward to your new works. Sincerely.

[@chrisbullock5488]

I understand exactly what you’re saying and this is why I watch your channel. I own the Z50 now and I also owned and sold (regretfully, long story 🙄😢)the Fuji XT3. The XT3 was not a perfect camera ( it does not exist) but the look and feel inspired me to shoot more than any other camera I’ve ever owned. And I’ve quite a few. Although I love my Nikon Z50, excellent photo/video capabilities, I don’t get that same feeling that I did with the XT3. I see it in the photos I took with the Fuji. Call it what you will but it’s true! Hence why I was very excited to see the ZFC released. It’s practically (internally) the same camera as the Z 50, just with a retro inspired style. This seemed like a no-brainer! But upon most reviews watched and read, like yours, this does not seem like the camera for me. And your right, I fit into the first category you mentioned, the Pro-sumer. This camera (ZFC) is for a different Demographic and that’s totally fine. I’m for anything or tool that will help grow the photography community. Now I know that there are no cameras that can make you a better photographer. That comes with an understanding of your camera and practice. But I feel some of the finest crafted tools can inspire you. I miss my XT3, so much so, I probably purchase it again. Thanks for your honesty.

[@intrinsicimagery]

Viltrox has a trio of APSC primes for Z mount.

[@RandyMoe]

I love it. A steppingstone to Z 9 I’m 71

[@tomcruz3774]

At first I really liked the idea that someone would get this as their first proper camera. Their zfc would be like how the nikon fm2 is to me, really nostalgic to use and would have plenty of good memories attached to it. BUT the build quality is kinda trash in my opinion and I don't see this camera physically lasting longer than 6 years.

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

Yup

[@mainmain5303]

6 years? Ok. People change cars within 3 years on avg. just fyi

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

I also did a comparison to see if this camera could offer an analog feel. People have acted like I pooped on their carpet and don't want to hear that maybe it's not a good camera. 🤷‍♂️

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

😂

[@pauldanesi3299]

I respectfully disagree with just about everything you think, that I think. Your rationales are way off. You are picking on minor points, such as the plasticslly look and feel, the locking lenses, etc. The photo quality is fantastic and that is the most important fact. Cameras are made to take photos, end of story. The focus system is a major upgrade on the Z50, Z6 and Z7 (I have the Z6 and Z50). USB charging in camera is huge. Articulating screen is nice, but for photography, not a big deal. This is the first video of yours that I have watched and I am sad that I can't add you to my library of great youtubers. You are way ou off on your assessment and time will eventually prove out that your opinion is in the minority.

[@theladubfovi909]

Agree with you (as elaborated in my own comment here). The job to be done is “enjoying taking great-quality pics” - which the Zfc does very well indeed.

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

Interesting review. I totally hear what you are saying and you seem like you are very much NOT the customer for this camera. Me on the other hand it might just be for. I want a new camera for photo taking, but not for paid work, I actually only want to use one lens 98% of the time the prime 28mm 2.8 Special Edition and use the organic feeling knobs for controls. I want a very simple and direct experience. I want it to be about the subject and not all the other stuff & noise including image quality. I am most likely going to deface the photo in editing into a misfit, degrading moss of decay anyway so for me all that normal photographer stuff isn't going to apply. And getting a Fuji seems to proper at this point. I had to with such iconic name in photographic history as Nikon just seemed perfect. And that is why I went with the ZFC. Snap Snap.

[@Boxcar-BlackPearl]

Your assessment of the target audience was very good, insightful and positive. Thanks!

[@michaelc4917]

Andrew, those few pictures you took look amazing! The colors in my opinion is just right. Far better than any Fuji xtran sensors. Honestly, I think I owed it to Nikon to buy their zfc. I don't want Nikon to go away bc the company contributed so much in the field of photography.

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

I do like the Nikon sensor better than xtrans. Not GFX though. :)

[@WhoIsSerafin]

So I'm a almost 20 year 4/3 to m4/3 user and im wanting to try something new and I have dilemma. I've looked and tried this zfc and a xpro 3. So what I've found is put the zfc and 24mm 1.8 weather sealed lens and it smokes every similar equivalent lens in rendering photo quality fuji has except being equal with the new 23mm 1.4 and you save $100-$150 with the nikon lens. 2nd tracking and focusing is better on the nikon. Low light seems marginally better with the nikon. The dials seemed to work just as snappy and solidly good as on the fuji. There was no rattling on the zfc except the neck strap rings. If you removed the springs that are on most battery doors it would feel the same and just as sturdy, it's just you are used to having springs on doors. I would say the only plus for the fuji camera is the titanium body and better weather sealing. I don't believe you gave it a fair shake.

[@theladubfovi909]

Nice adoption of the Clay Christensen dictum (“job to be done”). I fit your target demographic. I disagree with your premise, however: the Zfc is a brilliant performer with night photography, landscapes, macros, city-walkaround shots, long-exposures … the list goes on and on. It feels less lightweight and better ergonomically in my old FM2 leather-jacket, and is compact and easy to use. It works great with all my DSLR auto-focus lenses AND with my vintage manual-focus lenses (focus peaking is a great help, here!). I accept completely that yours is your own personal opinion based on your OWN experience … BUT it does seem that you’re projecting your own individual tastes and experience (photographing dogs and cyclists) onto everyone else in your viewer demographic - as expressed in your title and your main messages. Perhaps I sit in the minority of your “viewer profile”, in that I enjoy and appreciate “the job it does”. One thing I would add here, is that it takes time with ANY camera to get accustomed to the workflow, to get the maximum leverage out of its individual features and idiosyncrasies: perhaps you just need more time with it?

[@TheRealUnconnected]

When you talked about jobs to be done I knew you were legit. As a newcomer to your channel this was great. I am a hobby photographer and professional marketing consultant and ‘what job is our customer hiring the product to do’ is something we ask all the time. A great insight from I think Harvard business review after a study into why people buy thick shakes in the morning at McDonald’s. Subbed for authenticity.

[@PrinceMeowmers]

Call me when they release a full frame version. Until then you'd be crazy to buy this over a Fuji.

[@psysword]

I'm using anamorphic Siriu lenses on this to shoot video on my next project. I absolutely love love this camera. Thank you Nikon.

[@GreyGhost-r4z]

Wrong !!! I’m 56 !! 😆😎 Ok , never mind, back to the video 😋 Yes! You nailed it. Film Shooter, but Love Fuji because of the 80% likeness to the film experience. 🙌

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

😆

[@Mindartcreativity]

Nikon decided to attack a market segment that is dominated by Fuji: beginner cameras that look like vintage film cameras. Why would I choose this camera over a Fuji X-T30 that has an established line of lenses available? Nikon should have gone the opposite way and make the Zfc full-frame. If this was full-frame and had acces to all the nice Nikon glass it would sell like bread. Missed opportunity.

[@Mindartcreativity]

@@TaipeiGeek Bro, I‘m not even in the US, or another big country OR a boomer 😂 That‘s just,like, my opinion, no need to attack. You also ignored all the other „bs“ that I wrote. Fuji has cameras too at $1k or under and a huge selection of lenses and not just a crappy zoom lens or one prime lens like Nikon for the APS-C Z mount. I was comparing the two systems with their available lenses and if I was in the market for a camera at $1K I would always go with Fuji for the mentioned reasons. If the Taiwanese youth loves that camera with the 2-3 lenses that are available , good for them.

[@streets28mm]

I don't think their intention was to go after Fuji market because anybody that holds a Fuji in hand would know that zfc wouldn't even come close to be compared to Fuji!

[@andy.photoandfilm]

Why would you choose this camera? Well you're one of the prosumers Andrew addressed. You obviously have a overview over the camera market, guess what: most people don't and still think that there are only two big camera brands; Nikon and Canon, oh yes and DSLRs are still "the thing". Friends often ask me for camera recommendations and guess what; most even haven't heard of Fuji X)

[@cooloox]

@@TaipeiGeek That's your opinion. What's better about it? At least back up your claim.

[@pifilos]

@@TaipeiGeek seriously lol. You fanboys are so annoying. Nikon has an awesome Z full frame lineup (both lenses and bodies) but this one while looks good is just out of place. The whole Z lenses look is on the opposite direction while Fuji's look is consistent. I won't even comment on "The Zfc is better than any Fuji X currently on the market." as it is so so so LMAO.

[@kristoffergo6294]

I think it would have been perfect if it was fullframe and sold it with a vintage look adapter so we can use nikon legacy glass.

[@cubdukat]

One of the things I do when I see a camera like this is I go to Flickr to see if it's in their Camera Finder section, and if it is, then I check out the kind of results others are getting out of it. Yeah, it's got a pretty body, but what does it have beyond that? What kind of images can I get out of it? In the Z fc's case, I was very impressed with it. I looked at the Z 50, and I decided that if the Z fc wasn't available, I'd go with that. It didn't hit me the same way, especially not appearance-wise. I'm not overly concerned about the Z-mount lens situation. It's a new format that Nikon is going to support; there will be more, especially since Nikon's dumped their conventional mirrored DSLRs.

[@---us7qf]

Andrew, I started watching your channel when you tested the Hasselblad XCD lenses. Hahahaha, I still remember you describing the bokeh, of one of the lenses as "nervous." I had never heard bokeh being described like that before, but it got the message across. Although I am not subscribed, I do fall into that demographic: having a full time job, being of a certain age (hahahahaha!), and a good disposable income. Man, I hate that you tagged me there that good, anyway... I bought the Nikon S3 year 2000 Limited Edition film camera from JCH, some months now. I also got myself a year's film stock and the Voightlander VC meter II. The camera feels exquisite; just solid and reassuring. Everything about it - from the small 50mm f/1.4 full metal lens, to the dials and knobs, even the catches for the straps are all well-made and premium feeling - makes for an engaging, tactile experience. I really feel that I've bought something that will last for the next 50 years. I wanted to complement this with a digital camera, but lost all excitement when I saw this Z fc. UGH! You are right it is not made for me. I am leaning more towards a Leica digital M (right after I buy that Leica M-A). Sorry for the long message. Social media and commenting and all that interaction is not my thing. And yes, I'll subscribe now.

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

Haha. No worries about the long message, and thanks for subscribing. Good luck with Leica!

[@AR1xRUSHY]

Just bought the Z FC, so far I am a fan. Coming from the D7500 it’s a great transition into the mirrorless world. It’s lightweight, compact, has a better flip screen for low angle shots, and aesthetically pleasing. For me I travel for work and enjoy shooting everything from sports, street, landscape, and some wedding work. Also bought this over the Z6ii since I want to wait for the Z6iii to come out.

[@VolkswagenNut1969]

I don’t know, if just depends on your perception I guess. I finally tried the Zfc and have even run it through its paces on some paid architectural/landscape jobs and I absolutely love it! I tried Fuji a few years ago with several of their models and didn’t like it. The Nikon produces at least as good color with less noise and better dynamic range. Yes, the Nikon feels a bit too light and cheap, don’t like that, but the Fujis had their problems with build quality. Since this review there have been lenses added and of course the Zf full frame camera which deeply interests me because of my positive experience with the Zfc so far. I’ve been a Sony “R” series shooter for years but the humble little Zfc has hung in there with frankly much better colors and slightly better autofocus (as well as super quick startup and much better menus) that it is pulling me back to Nikon after all these years. So if nothing else, it’s a good “testing the waters” camera. 😉

[@bobfancy77]

Thanks for a really useful video. Really impressed with your take on the subscribed demographic you had me down to a tee! When I saw the Nikon, having ditched my D3 and lenses in favour of Fuji some time ago I wondered if the Z fc would rekindle my love for Nikon which started with a Nikon FM in the 1980s. You've saved me a lot of hassle and I'll stick with my gorgeous X100V and XT3. Beautifully expressed description of what we love about our art and the tools we use to create it.

[@sdhute]

There is something magical about that 20.9 sensor. I agree that kit lens is a little boring however that 16mm is pretty interesting. I purchased a z30 on morning took it out and captured an amazing low light shot. Now wanting a EVF camera with that same sensor. Might just grab a z50 for my photography type.

[@thisisbenji90]

I’d try the full-frame primes on it. I use them on my Z50 and they’re amazing with that sensor. I’d say my Z50 paired with any of them is actually a much nicer setup than either my X100V or XE3. Just something about the files out of the Z50, they’re stellar. My favorite lens on the Z50 is actually the 85/1.8S right.

[@markwornom1050]

But they're not stabilized, right? Without IBIS or in-lens VR you're back to doing it old school. Maybe not really a concern with the 85 but my use case would definitely benefit from stabilization.

[@thisisbenji90]

@@markwornom1050 yeah, not stabilized, but then again most of the Fuji stuff isn’t stabilized either. Really it’s only the XT4 and XS10 with IBIS right? The rangefinder style bodies certainly don’t have it.

[@markwornom1050]

@@thisisbenji90 I'm a Nikon shooter and have a very similar sensor in my D500. I've been shopping Fuji a little but definitely not an expert. I do believe you are correct about the cameras you mentioned and certainly you would know more about the lenses. Everything I've seen indicates that the Z lenses are fantastic but I just need the full flexibility provided by stabilization. The Zfc with the two kit lenses would compliment my D500 and give me a light weight body for traveling that I can also adapt my current DX glass to without getting penalized with the crop imposed by a full frame sensor. Zooms work better for me, I never seemed to get the use out of primes despite their great glass. I'm strongly considering the Z50 and would probably own one if I could find one. I'm not quite convinced enough yet to order. The Zfc offers a few compelling upgrades over the Z50 but I'm also very spoiled by a top display and that's pulling me to one of the full frame bodies. I personally find this transition to mirrorless pretty complicated.

[@robwinklerphoto2189]

@@markwornom1050 I use the D500 and Z50. With the same sensor and maximum fps, they complement each other perfectly, but oddly I've seen no KZbinr talk about this. If you like switching between OVF and EVF, between a rugged and lighter camera, between DSLR and mirrorless, yet always with the same results, and with the ability to adapt all your F-mount lenses to the Z50, this may be your combo. Like Andrew, I have no interest in the Zfc. It does seem more a toy than a serious camera, even compared to the Z50, and I cringe at a color for each day of the week, except the Sabbath :)

[@markwornom1050]

@@robwinklerphoto2189 I think that since the D500 is around 5.5 years old now and the focus is on the new mirrorless platforms that it's just kind of been forgotten about and that's probably why nobody's made that comparison. But, your comments reflect some of my thoughts about it too and I seriously considered the Z50 and found a lot to like about it. And although I dream of a complete switch to full frame one day, I also find the APS-C sensors more than capable for what I really do. With that in mind I considered the long term factors and decided that I really needed an IBIS sensor to support any future purchases of Z mount glass. As of now I'm only aware of three lenses with built in VR and two of them are DX. For what I do, I'd probably be fine with that and my current F mount glass but then I considered the age of the Z50 and that I might be buying one too late in the product cycle. And then I am seriously trying to drop some weight from my backpack so... believe it or not I chose the Sony ZV-1 to compliment the D500. It's less than half the weight of the D500 body, includes a f1.8-2.8, 24-70mm lens and captures in 10 video formats including HLG, Cine and SLog. It's only a 1 inch sensor but I'm a day hiker. LOL at the Zfc color options. And only $100 more for the privilege! I was initially very interested in the Zfc but the more I understood the ergonomics and switchology the less interest I had. From what I've seen Fuji has a much more refined and intelligent control setup. I really have no plans to sell my D500 anytime in the near future. It's just so capable even now 5.5 years later that there's almost nothing other than lighter weight that I wish for.

[@fcf8269]

One thing I can agree is that unless someone is a subscriber, he/she may not share your same feelings or thoughts about this camera. Personally I am a pro-sumer user and as I moved from DSLR to mirrorless, I found this camera being a good entry point. It is expensive for what it offers, yes, and it feels cheap. But if you get it used for 599, it is a great deal; which is what I got it for. The rest is relative... I don't care about the looks, even if I had those film cameras in the past, as that is not enough alone to make me open my wallet, if the specs are not what I need. And as I have other Nikon lenses, the switch is not that bad as it would be with Fuji; which are the other range I was looking at. With some work the z-FC may work but it is a product made for specific people, and if you find it used it is hitting the mark 100% IMO. Then if you buy it new at 999 for just the body; there is better stuff around, but still, it is not as bad as many reviews paint it. I would call this the equivalent of a "dumb phone": it takes pictures, so it does what a camera should do; but lacks all that bloat and stuff that we came to accept in modern digital cameras. If you look at the objective that this camera set for itself, it did hit the mark perfectly, as it is a camera that takes pictures and that's it... With a retro look. It is just overpriced but you can get it used.

[@richardyeung6562]

You need a Leica M camera.

[@kristigainey7798]

Completely agree with your assessment here. One thing to note though is that you don't have to adapt the full frame Z lenses to this camera. This camera also has the Z mount so it's pretty seamless. That being said they are of course much bigger and I really do regret selling my Fuji gear. And I also dislike having to unlock the lenses which is true for many of the full frame lenses as well.

[@Hazard4Tactical]

Very insightful Industrial Design input on the 'jobs'.

[@Reggiebphoto]

I think a mirrorless nikon df is what they need to make. How’s it going Andrew! I posted a new Disneyland vid to my channel lol. Still hilarious we ran into each other there a while back.

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

Hey Reggie! Yes, that was one of the craziest coincidences. :) Glad to hear you've been able to get back. Denae is going next week without me. Sad times.

[@TheVFXbyArt]

It cracks me up that we still have to make a 12 minute video to explain this to camera companies. The fuji xt and xpro and even x100 lines are a masterclass on this topic. Even leica M are. I recall even in the 90’s getting a film pentax that was too plasticy when compared to the canon AE1 that I grew up with. Nikon just accelerated the digital rot of this camera….

[@djking9828]

Love my X100V, but great video 🙏🍻

[@bartoszpajak2285]

Great review! I fell in love with the Z fc as well, but ended up buying a X-T4 and the reasons for it were exactly the ones you mentioned in your video. Once I had it in my hands I understood its not he one I was looking for.

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

A year after this video, there are now FIVE Z DX lenses: 16-50mm, 12-28mm Powerzoom, 14-140mm, 24mm f1.7, 50-250mm which are all Z DX lenses. You could also add the z 50mm which is also FF. People on a budget could get the Z30 or spend more on Z50 or Zfc. I do think Nikon needs to add one more body with update to Z50mark2 to add fully articulating screen, EVF, video tally light, usb-c continuous power plus update on focus. Or else... make a high end apsc in mirrorless dx Z similar to the D500. Thanks for your video.

[@cotswoldphotographers]

You know me better than I do 😂 I do agree with you but still want one because it will fit in my ecosystem. I’m excited about the new viltrox apsc lenses as well as the new z pancakes.

[@josephschimmer302]

One of your best episodes IMHO!

[@jeVoKk]

What do you think is better for video Fuji x-s10 or Nikon Z fc?

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

Both are great. I prefer Nikon Z fc for focus tracking. But I prefer the Fuji X-S10 for most every other factor (color, image quality, lens selection, durability). Overall, I would choose the Fuji X-S10.

[@jeVoKk]

@@AndrewGoodCamera the durability goes to nikon because there’s weather resistant and the fuji doesn’t . I like the colors that nikon produce but i am on the edge of what to pick because the fuji has higher resolution sensor. Ok so Basically i ordered zfc with 16-50 lens but i can still change it to x-s10 with 15-45 lens What do you think about that fuji lens because here it sold with this kit

[@gettoana]

Fuji X-S10 has IBIS, which is a huge bonus. But Z fc has human/animal eye tracking 🤷‍♂️

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

If you held them both and used them, you'd see very quickly that the X-S10 is probably going to withstand greater abuse. WR aside, the Nikon Z fc feels like it's going to fall apart in the hand.

[@jeVoKk]

What do you think about FUJIFILM XC 15-45mm f/3.5-5.6 OIS PZ lens ?

[@buddyWalrus]

This was such an honest review. I wish more of the "negative" reviews/hot takes were made like this.

[@mattaz8601]

Interesting video! The demographic for me is close-ish. I know it isn't a better camera than the ones I have. I am not that interested in video. But for me it is light (because it is plastic) - good. The flimsy door I already knew about - I won't be changing batteries very often - I can't buy spares anywhere anyway, lol, but mainly, because USB-C is how it will be charged. Images will be transferred wirelessly or mostly via USB-C. I am not bothered about native Z lenses or lack thereof - I have bought it body only with FTZ (I also hate lock/unlock lenses and would never buy one). It will be mainly to adapt vintage lenses and as a bridge/intro to Nikon Z and a small/light travel camera. I could have bought a Z50, but the useless flip-down touch screen was a problem. I could have bought a used Z6 for about the same money and I'm sure a better buy, but I have existing crop lenses so a crop Z makes sense. To me, something to play with. If I don't use it, I will simply sell it and buy a Z6 instead.

[@mattaz8601]

..forgot to add - powered & charged by USB-C it will do double duty for video conferencing in my office

[@robmcd]

A full frame version of this would be perfection. Until then I pray for a Fuji full frame

[@bjornelenfors2039]

Fujifilm already have the GFX line. No need for full frame. :)

[@robmcd]

@@bjornelenfors2039 I’m looking to sell my full frame canon system for the gfx but it’s big the lenses are slow and the experience seems clunky

[@victorlim5077]

I can see Nikon coming out with the Full Frame Zf in the future. Hopefully with IBIS.

[@just_eirik]

Honestly all I want from Fuji is a high end x-mount camera with a normal sensor instead of a x-trans sensor. I’ll be so happy if the X-T5 or X-H2 has a normal sensor!

[@Mindartcreativity]

@@just_eirik why do you dislike the sensor? Maybe try Capture One instead of Lightroom if that is the reason. It handles the Fujj-Raws much better.

[@artsilva]

Thanks for your honesty. Since going back to nikon with the Z bodies, I have been on the fence about this camera. I am also an owner of several Fuji cameras and I was hoping to consolidate my gear and have the Z fc replace my Fujis, that way I could use all my old and new nikkors on both FX and DX (Z fc) seamlessly. I don't shoot enough anymore to lug two different yet redundant APS-C systems around. I come from the F2 photomic and FE days, owned 4 FEs over the decades and still have one I occasionally use when I want to shoot 35mm film This Z fc would hopefully be my digital version of my beloved FE, but ike you I was hoping Nikon would have made a more solid FX version... idk, maybe they will after the success they had with the Z fc and all the critiques of it being a DX sensor. The Z fc may could have been a test product and we may very well see an FX version after all in the future.

[@john2wheels860]

Man, that's 100% how I feel about it too. I was excited when they came into the store I work at. Opened one up, grabbed it, and put it right back in the box. Feels like an expensive digital holga or something. Nikon also doesn't have a good track record making exciting DX lenses. Seems like only Fuji and Pentax have a decent APSC lens selection these days.

[@TheVFXbyArt]

“exoensive digital holga” … ouch! 🤣🤣🤢

[@john2wheels860]

@@TheVFXbyArt haha, may be a slight exaggeration. It really did feel disappointing to pick up though. Kinda like holding a 90s 35mm point and shoot. You know it'll work fine, just feels bad 😂

[@reathakenny9130]

Thank you this is an excellent review. I just sold a bunch of my film cameras because I thought it was time to go digital. I like dials though. Personally I find that a much better way of selecting settings and more satisfying than buttons or menus. The visual /tactile nature of a dial helps me think. I thought this might be exactly what I was looking for but clearly not. You've expressed exactly what I needed to know. I'll go back to my original thoughts and buy a Fuji.

[@sdhute]

Did you pickup the zfc? Apparently the dials are aluminum which are a good thing. Not brass like a film camera

[@raj.hasani]

With the recent announcement of the Z DX 24mm f/1.7, it does seem Nikon is addressing the lack of APS-C lenses in their lineup. I picked up the Z fc to be a lightweight replacement for the Z 6II when looking to travel light or not needing the heavy gear, and I can’t wait to add that new lens to the Z fc

[@RobP614]

First off nailed the demo for me! And yes I have better cameras…I didn’t get this camera for me. My wife saw the Fuji first but stock in the US is impossible right now - but the Z fc was available! I saw both the fuji and Nikon retro style camera as an easy way to teach full manual operation to a newish photographer. Teaching f-stop, shutters speed and iso plus the complex menu systems is a lot for a semi-novice photographer. The dials make it yes for me to teach and for the learner. I am a Canon guy - but I love the Z fc!

[@lisab8078]

I laughed when I saw your title and then felt much better (even though I don't entirely fit your demographics)- because this afternoon I ordered a Fuji X-E4 after much debate - not being able to see either (due to all camera stores being closed) I really tossed up between the two - my children (who are clearly the target market) said buy the Nikon - and the younger one was oh so disappointed when I didn't (and still says she liked it better) but with the lens situation the way it is I just couldn't - and I wanted to try the film simulations - so I am now a new owner of a Fuji camera (having always shot canon) who knows they made the right decision after watching your review (but yes if Nikon bring out a full frame I will consider it).

[@tonyhayes9827]

I don't agree with having preconceived ideas about who's it for. Don't care about style. Don't care about retro. Don't care if it looks like a film camera. I just like to change settings with dials rather than menu dives and scroll wheels. I agree about the crappy plastic feel though. That's actually a deal breaker. The fuji x100F is a much nicer camera to use. And the lenses. Non starter for me too. So I pretty much agree with everything you say. Also wishing for a FF version. Love my Nikon F4 (Uses AA batteries. Yay!)

[@frankseophotos9633]

Thank you for the honest review!

[@stargator4945]

Would you like more the Z 18-140 Lens for the Z fc? Even when the clicks and dials are not like my Nikon FE, technically and handling wise it should still be a good combo? And yes I got your comments about the not so robust parts of this camera, however, it is also not so heavy, which is a pro when you get older, as long as it is strong enough.

[@thomasgrube574]

So many marketing experts on KZbin.

[@bennguyen9648]

Used to be big fan of Nikon, but your review so satisfied. This is why I subscribed. Always big fan, thank you. Btw im fuji fan now though lol

[@gettoana]

Hi, new Nikon Z fc owner here! Traded my old Fuji X-T2 and X-E2 for this camera. Neither of those two did feel right for me, XE was too plasticky and XT was too DSLRy (lol). I think maybe X-E4 or X-pro2/3 could have also been good for my taste, but I have a Nikon FM2 film SLR so this new Nikon felt like a solid match. I agree with you about the 16-50mm kit lens, it's quite underwhelming UX-wise. But with the 16-50mm and 50-250mm I can cover a huge range of photography situations. (I also stuck the Lensmate X-T2 thumb rest to the Z fc to get a better grip, feels wrong but also so right :D) Waiting for the Z 28mm f2.8 SE retro lens to hit the shelves, that's going to be my street photo daily driver (and also gonna keep it if the full-frame Z fc ever comes out... Peace 🖤📸

[@fourthlegara6159]

also sold my XPro2 for a Zfc. Been a long time fujifilm user (X100, XT1 black/graphite silver, XT2, XPro1, XE1, XH1, XPro2) all just to satisfy the urge of wanting a vintage camera that makes me want to grab it and shoot everywhere I go. A feeling that I have left when I sold my Leica M8 for a modern system that I could use for my paid projects. Yes I used the Leica M8 for lifestyle portraits and weddings and all those other Fujifilm mentioned. I have stopped taking wedding gigs since covid19 has started and will just focus on lifestyle portraits. The fujifilms were almost there in bringing the feel of heritage but I felt there was something missing. Like coming from a Leica, I felt that the XPro series were kind of a boxy modern camera that is trying to look retro and same feeling goes for the rest. For nikon to go for the FM/FE look was the one that sold me.. I don’t care about the specs, surely they all do better than the M8, X100, XPro1, XT1 that I had. But to have a camera that makes me want to hold it and hang around my neck every hour of every day is something that I have been longing for since my Leica. Some might say that I am too attached to the feeling than the function and purpose. Well, I started in photography as a hobby. A passion for art and to just take pictures and just have fun. Along the way, it became a job, then things started to get boring. The 5DsR felt boring, the 1DsIII felt the same, the XH1 felt boring. The Leica M8 never did but the technology was just too outdated. Clients never questioned which camera I used. They were happy with the output whichever camera I used. I am yet to receive my Zfc unit and I am excited! Just before its announcement, I was even about to get myself a Nikon FE2 film camera and what joy have I felt when I saw the Zfc announced officialy. Also, the adapter by Megadap to take E mount lenses with full auto focus brings a whole to worlds of possibilities for this little fun camera. Imagine the whole line of E mount Sigma Contemporary I series lenses. Like the perfect match for a retro looking system. Sometimes it’s not just the easy things that drives us to deliver the goods. Sometimes, it’s the experience. After all, the Zfc is better than the 5DmII and the 1DsIII i used to shoot with albeit being less robust and having smaller sensor.

[@seanahuang7239]

Definitely update us when you get your unit would love to see how you use it and take great pictures with it

[@valeriepung5041]

I have a Fujifilm X-T2 with the 18-50mm kit lens. I do enjoy the camera very much, but was considering switching to a Nikon Z fc due to hearing that Canon lenses convert better to Nikon than Fujifilm (wife has a Canon R7 and we have invested in quality EF mount Sigma lenses and it would be nice to share them). Does anyone have thoughts or experience in this area?

[@andy.photoandfilm]

Yep you nailed the demographic ;-) The ZFC beeing called now a "hit" hopefully will soon get some more primes from third party manufacturers. I totally agree that it wasn't ment for "us". Prosumers should understand that they're just a part of a companys customer base. Also i see "guys like us" demanding a FF version in almost every comment section or thread about the zfc - it could be tempting with a FF sensor but i think Fuji will still have a big advantage with their film simulations.

[@johnkarakatsianis7281]

I don’t think that any company can beat Fuji in the aps-c game….and that’s because they are only focused on two types of sensors: aps-c and medium format…that’s it. Companies like Canon and Nikon should stick to their Dslrs and stop trying to reach Sony and Fuji in the mirrorless world, because Sony = best full frame and Fuji = best aps-s.

[@andy.photoandfilm]

@@johnkarakatsianis7281 Fujifilm has the the lead in APSC for sure but their "focus" on two sensor sizes actually slows their progress in each of them 😉 canon focuses only on FF now and has catched up with Sony pretty fast. It's actually good for us to have all that competition between the manufacturers.

[@johnkarakatsianis7281]

@@andy.photoandfilm yeah of course it’s good to have competition

[@joeltunnah]

Fuji “film simulations” are pretty sad attempts at the films they’re supposed to represent. I recommend DxO Film Pack 6 instead. Much better in every way.

[@andy.photoandfilm]

@@joeltunnah you're talking about developing raw - sure, there are plenty better presets and if I occasionally use a Fuji RAW i tweak it but Fuji JPGa still deliver much nicer results than most in-camera profiles

[@behindeachfilmgrain]

If Fuji ever decides to go full frame…I will have to stay with medium or vintage 35mm that fit my style and budget. But this Nikon when it was released to the public may change my mind due to the vintage look! Hopefully better than the past full frame Nikon DF which essentially was a Full frame Nikon D800! We will have to do a shoot together with this camera if you still own it! Haha! Great review as per usual my friend!

[@josh3326]

I love my Nikon Z50 and Z FC but hate the crappy 16-50 lens. I do use the Z adapter and will throw on the 35mm, 24mm, 16-80, or the 17-55. But….. the set up is just way too big for me, as the adapter is quite large for the camera. I want to shoot film again, so I will need to pull out the F100 again.

[@axelkeuchel5728]

Hello Andrew! First of all, thanks so much for this video! It’s so much different from a “typical” YT camera gear video - and I like it🤩. I fit very well into your statistics and like you I own a FE2 analog Nikon camera. And although my preferred cameras bear a red dot I really like the FE2 and I would have been in the market for a digital full frame FE2. But as we say in german this new Nikon camera is “not fish and not meat”. From a mere technical point of view it’s probably a wonderful APS-C camera, but from the viewpoint of someone who wants a digital FE2 it’s simply disappointing. And the worst part is - as you’ve mentioned - the meager lens situation and this monstrosity of a mount. It’s kind of sad but, as you’ve said, this camera isn’t made for guys like us. But although this message seems to be kind of negative, I really enjoyed your video and your explanation. It’s this authentic approach that makes me always come back to your videos😉👋!

[@Azeemmerchant]

Awesome video thanks ❤️

[@sonholee5769]

Great video. Direct and concise. I had high hopes for this camera, but I knew just from the start that the lens line up would disappoint me. One could easily use the full frame z glass. No big deal. But they are huge and long. I don't want a big system. One of the reasons for my switch to fuji was size. If they made a full frame version with better build quality and a great manual focusing experience so that we could use our old D and Ais lenses on them, I'd be all over it. I'd buy a few z lenses to boot. But that was not the intent for this camera. I think it was made for the younger crowd.

[@stinkystealthysloth]

The 28mm f/2.8 lens for it isn't even a dedicated aps-c lens, that was an extra oof for me.

[@LucioBusaPhotography]

Hi, How do I fit these vintage analog lenses to a new Nikon Z fc? thanks

[@smallbrownfox594]

I have to say I agree completely. I want a solid, metal, full frame, stripped-out version of the FM2, FM3a etc. No video - just photo with simple menus. I wrote to Nikon around 2010/11 asking for this to be made. Of course I got no reply. Pity. They missed a trick. But hey, what do I know…

[@mvonwalter6927]

The experience of those old AIS lenses on a modern digital FX Nikon is much better than adapting them to mirrorless crop sensor (although I do anyways) and D610s and D750 are so cheap 2nd hand.

[@ILGenius]

This is an interesting review because I just happen to watch FroKnowsPhoto’s review and he had the complete opposite experience. While he didnt think it was perfect, he also thought it felt like a plastic camera, he did felt inspired and ended up using it more than the Sony a1 he took on the same trip. He felt the lens was good for what it was, and his images looked amazing. Thank you for your point of view.

[@neeravnaik]

You caught me right there with the demographics :) Fuji helped me get into film world and I loved this camera when it was announced due to the looks. But the lens situation put me off even without knowing anything about the build quality. That there looks like a instax lens. If they evolve this for their Z full frame system it could be interesting

[@waveland]

I have the opposite opinion. If you’re a content creator stepping up from a cell phone then there are plenty of interchangeable lens cameras which are easier to learn, handle, and which have sturdier and affordable, non-plastic glass available. I won’t recommend Nikon for video until they incorporate a fully modal menu system as on recent Fuji cameras. Much easier to teach. So to me the Z fc is a nostalgia purchase for existing Z shooters who want an easy to carry, unobtrusive alternative to the capable but utilitarian dark grey work cameras. I added a metal plate and grip from SmallRig to my fc which makes the camera much more bump resistant on the bottom and much easier to handle overall. And the integrated Arca Swiss mount is a nice bonus.

[@simontrezise8495]

The lack of aperture rings on the lenses makes a nonsense of the retro styling. Many of us shoot in aperture priority. As you say, the camera doesn't deliver on its promise. OTOH, I like the Z50 and often use it.

[@intrinsicimagery]

Smallrig makes a grip for this that is fantastic.

[@ales_krejci]

Good to see new video from you. Its not for me because Nikon does not have appealing aps-c lenses at all and doesnt seem to change it any time soon. And it ends there for me :-)

[@TimvanderLeeuw]

I don't quite understand why Nikon Z full frame lenses are considered such a bad fit for a camera like this. It expands your options without needing an adapter, and they're good lenses. Size? Well, my best Fuji lenses are just as big as their Canon EF-mount equivalents (except for the Laowa 65mm macro and other manual lenses which are much smaller than their FF equivalents are or would be). I'm not in the Nikon Z eco-system, so this is not the camera for me either, but I feel that it's in a better position with lenses than the Canon EF-M mount system where your EF-M lenses cannot be used on any other bodies, using EF lenses means you need a large and bulky adapter first, and EF-R lenses are not available to you. Regarding having to unlock the lens, it seems that many new Canon and Nikon lenses have this. (I'm not keeping enough track of other brand's lenses to know if they also have such a lock now). It allows you to travel with a more compact kit. When I was still using my EOS-M5, I did not always lock the lenses after use, to have them available quicker. I understand that such annoyances are personal but I've found ways to make it less annoying, and remember the positive side. :)

[@AndrewGoodCamera]

Long comment. But to answer your question simply, yes. Size is a big part. I don't mind APS-C as long as the system creates lenses specifically for it. This camera should have been FF.

[@TimvanderLeeuw]

@@AndrewGoodCamera Fullframe it would have certainly been a lot more interesting, yes -- I feel that if I ever switch away from Fuji, it would be to Nikon FF Z-mount.

[@victorlim5077]

@@TimvanderLeeuw Agreed. I hope Nikon comes out with the Full Frame Zf. We can hope.