Making an apple that tastes like a grape

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Years ago someone made an apple that tastes like a grape, and I've always wanted to try it. However, they apparently don't exist anymore. So now, I think the only way I can taste one, is to make it myself.
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[@Bigdude0444]

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[@jessicatymczak5852]

😂😂😂😂

[@GenosetScentia]

100% some farmers sprayed bird stop on their apple trees and noticed it tasted like grape. That percentage on both the patent and bird stop is too suspicious.

[@volvo09]

That's what I figured, was that it was discovered by accident.

[@tylercamilli2457]

@PoorWorldwithoutgod be quiet bot

[@vhaelen326]

joe: *sprays bird stop on the apples* joe's dad a couple of days later: "hey joe, did you remember to wipe of the bird stop after you brought the apples inside?" joe: "uuuh sure... why..?"

[@crumbopulis]

@PoorWorldwithoutgodPLEASE THE ALGORITHM WONT SEE MY REPOSTED SHORTS IF YOU DONT

[@Mobin92]

@PoorWorldwithoutgodThe fuck do you need a professional camera for kid?! Just use your phone.

[@prezzelboy_1117]

Literally the label: "If swallowed, call a poison control center or doctor immediately for treatment advice." NileBlue: "If it's good for a bird, it's probably good for us, too, right?"

[@avail2114]

He did dilute it to be fair

[@zebsy123]

@@avail2114 Do you know the effective dosage? I sure as hell wouldn't try and i have a background in pharmaceutics.

[@beck0n527]

@@zebsy123 good thing the bird stop isnt a pharmaceutical!

[@ORACLEANTIFREZRGAMINGALT]

​@beck0n527 the bird stop was food grade

[@zebsy123]

​@@ORACLEANTIFREZRGAMINGALT Caffeine can be food-grade, but toxic at 1g and lethal at 10g depending on age, gender, and weight. Similarly, alcohol is food-grade but a bottle of vodka can be fatal. Regarding Bird Stop, it may contain residual synthesis products like methanol, anthranilic acid, acids, and heavy metal catalysts. Food-grade products like PET bottles can still contain harmful substances within legal limits. Misusing these products, such as putting boiling water in a PET bottle, can be dangerous. Bird Stop includes a warning to avoid liability for accidental or voluntary ingestion by people.

[@Mitchell_WerBell_III]

I’m so glad you’re a youtuber and not a bosnian war criminal.

[@Zorro9129]

It's never too late for a career change.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@Zorro9129 he might even learn how to play the Tennison Gambit ICBM variation.

[@gev6624]

Cock and Balls opening is still undefeated in intimidation

[@AhsanGaming133]

@@HappyBeezerStudioschess player?

[@ibrahimmardini7784]

The Serbians were the actual war criminals in that war

[@danilooliveira6580]

that 26.4% on both the paper and the bird stop is highly suspicious. something tells me that is exactly how they made it.

[@RDSk0]

something tells me that someone found that out and thats why they went out of business

[@elias1255]

@@RDSk0 apple grape was ahead of its time

[@fluffsquirrel]

But his bird stop had "other ingredients"

[@Daedalussy]

​@@fluffsquirrelwell ofc it did, you can't get 100% of 26.4%

[@thepizzaguy8477]

yeah, this is definitely a product that happened from a orchard farmer discovering it by accident "after spraying birdstop on my apples to stop the crows from eating them, they all taste like grape... i can work with this" (Damn never had a reply blow up like this lol)

[@Chairman351]

26.4% for their recipe, 26.4% in bird stop.. I wonder why it was discontinued

[@vasyapupken]

will you wonder less if this solution was called "bird go" ? the only thing that matters is edible it or not. what it used for says nothing.

[@alnarkokombist689]

@@vasyapupken in package it says call poison control if swallowed 😭😭😭😭

[@Bruno-cb5gk]

@@alnarkokombist689because if you swallow 26.4%, instead of 0.5%, you might not feel so good.

[@interstellarsurfer]

@@Bruno-cb5gkOr you'll develop an intense grape flavor.

[@kreuner11]

@@alnarkokombist689 yeah because its concentrated, the apple dilutes it

[@oxiiacid]

I've been looking for Grapples for *YEARS.* They were absolutely *delicious,* I cannot describe how tasty they were. Thank you for sharing this information---you have brought me comfort and closure. Keep doing what you do.

[@LoliLoveJuice]

now all you need is birdstop and you got an infinite supply

[@SilverOmega-st5bn]

I mean they arent great aples.... but grape apples are good enough i gues...

[@lotus_flower2001]

I hated that they came in 4 packs. It was never enough.

[@The-reaper-of-vr]

YES I MISS GRAPPLES I CLICKED ON THIS VIDEO BC I WAS LIKE “those already exist tho”

[@The-reaper-of-vr]

@@lotus_flower2001I got the one from the bags

[@unmonk.]

For those who don't know, food grade refers to materials or products that are safe for human consumption or permitted to come into direct contact with food

[@VeryHumanExperience]

Look up, Loctite Food grade anti-seize. It is absolutely disgusting yet it’s part of every manufacturer plant. We slop that stuff on everything.

[@SnailHatan]

Yes, I have common sense

[@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX]

​@@SnailHatanGreat, then the comment isn't meant for you. Not everyone has the shining, brilliant mind that you do. But I'm sure you knew that, too.

[@whatthemake]

I love that the label says "if swallowed contact poison control immediate". Proceeds to taste spoonful of it.

[@UnfairDare]

he's gonna end up like Vsauce, swallowing the wrong silica gel packet

[@bbgun061]

He tasted the diluted version, not the concentrate. Lots of things are dangerous when concentrated, but harmless when diluted.

[@dgray7537]

I wonder if the safety data sheet has the rest of the ingredients. Edit: Methyl anthranilate is the only toxic chemical listed on the sds.

[@get.sassyxd]

And it also says "food grade" on the same label 😂 giving me mixed signals

[@dgray7537]

@@get.sassyxd They use it in gum and sodas but even after he diluted it he said it burned. So food grade is accurate but high concentrations is bad.

[@ColCoal]

Was expecting a cool video about breeding apples to get them to taste like grapes. Got two kids in the high school chem lab eating bird deterant.

[@elysian_5839]

ay nile is a science master not no highschooler

[@lbell1703]

LMAO it does give off high schoolers having fun in a chem lab vibes.

[@paganyl]

Same lol

[@Bezabella21]

Yes,me too I am dissapointed ..

[@Magrijack]

@@Bezabella21 He’s a chemist, not a biologist or genetic engineer.

[@w1ldace]

nigel is the reason why companies have to list the actual ingredients on their products

[@GGigabiteM]

I by chance tried one of these apples back when they were available in 2011, a coworker offered me one since you could only buy them in packs of three. It was as you described, a mild grape flavor, but it faded the deeper you ate into the apple until it tasted like a regular fuji apple. The next time I was in the produce section at the grocery store, I looked for these things and about fell over when I saw the price, it was $6-7 for just three of these apples, and that was in 2011 dollars. You could buy a whole bag of like 10-12 fuji apples for that price. I never heard about any recalls for health effects of those apples, they just didn't sell well and faded from existence. I've seen several weird fruit hybrids or "designer" fruits pop up in the produce section over the decades, and they never stay around for long because they're either too expensive or aren't appealing for one fruit to taste like another.

[@Teakip]

Oh my god you’re right, I absolutely remember the grape flavor fading the more you bit into the apple

[@pissum420]

The taste fading just adds to the thought they were soaking apples in dangerous chemicals that you really shouldn’t ingest

[@GGigabiteM]

@@pissum420 No, the taste fading is because the chemical doesn't soak into the core of the apple. The farther in you eat, the less of it there is.

[@pissum420]

@@GGigabiteM my comment vanished I don’t even remember what I said but I feel like that was implied

[@way2dead4u]

yes this also reminds me of cotton candy grapes!!

[@MoKIGN]

Chubbyemu next week: "A youtube chemist ate an apple soaked in Bird Stop, this is how his organs shut down"

[@annikkirahko6714]

Yes😂😂😂

[@cutecutebethoven]

nah nuclear reactor guy be like youtuber chemist nileblue ate a apple soaked with birdstop here is why you should not do that

[@APR1Lmusic]

N.R is a 36 year old man presenting to the emergency room, unconscious." (lifts finger)

[@DarkGT]

That's not how KZbinrs should collaborate...

[@Wurtoz9643]

@@cutecutebethoventhis is why you have to be careful……lick when working with a nuclear reactor!

[@snakenightmare1]

Who tf graped my apple?

[@the_second_channel]

i graped your apple

[@Alph_From_Pikmin_3]

Don't replace the a in grape with an o

[@nyew_thrizz]

put my finger over the g

[@JussPatel_]

@@Alph_From_Pikmin_3 grupe

[@handledav]

a grape

[@taelmin1479]

Grapples were owned and produced by a company called C & O nursery in Washington. They closed down shop after over a century due to “a slowing down in the agricultural economy due to state regulations” hope this is helpful

[@iloveplasticbottles]

I'm guessing they found out they can't dunk apples in bird repellent?

[@AmalShajie]

​@@iloveplasticbottles That bird repellant is meant to be used on food items. Maybe you'd know that if it wasn't for your room temperature IQ.

[@FaiienWings]

​@@AmalShajie You had the opportunity to be funny but you were mean instead, do better next time

[@FoolOnAdventure]

We used to have an old apple tree that only have a few apples, but they tasted like gooseberries. It was kind of weird but really delicious. I miss that tree and those apples.

[@AaronC.]

That could have been a new apple variety. I imagine you can't get a branch or two from that tree now?

[@HerkusM]

"if it's good for a bird it's probably good for us too right?" - NileBlue's final words

[@andrew-vl7gu]

Yeah, and I would doubt that product called "bird stop" is actually good for the birds XD

[@fluffsquirrel]

Before he transformed into a bird

[@vhaelen326]

@@andrew-vl7gu luckily humans arent birds. chocolat kills dogs, cats and some other animals but humans are fine so technically you could sell nutella as "food grade cat and dog poison" thats entirely safe for humans

[@mariannatatarska1140]

​@PoorWorldwithoutgod i liked ur premier vid, fingers crossed!

[@pandavroomvroom]

looking for some science guy to tell us that this is either perfectly safe or this is nileblues final video

[@personisme3556]

"If swallowed call a poison control centre" A bit too late for that.

[@The_Netherknight]

Uhhh

[@EvanG529]

When did it say that?

[@DoubleStupidity]

​@@EvanG5292:15

[@yoo571]

I think that's is for the pure thing, the not only diluted it but ate if from an apple, every chemical is dangerous in concentrated or high dosis

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

​@@yoo571 Still have no idea what the other 76% is

[@Cettywise]

Cameraman: "Woah, this is delicious." Birds: "I'm fuckin outta here"

[@CaptainBonar]

If you want the opposite of this just eat star fruit, it tastes like an apple but has the texture of a grape and its star shaped to boot

[@illuminum8576]

If Nile stops uploading we know why the Graple went out of business

[@dheerandoesstuff2793]

634 comments and no likes? Lemme fix that

[@I.FUSION]

Cringe😭​@@dheerandoesstuff2793

[@dheerandoesstuff2793]

@@I.FUSION it was a joke 💀

[@armadillolover99]

He’s been exposed to way too many potentially harmful things for us to nail down the cause to something from just one video.

[@stavros222]

Does the grapple really contained birdstop?

[@gavinhicks7621]

They used bird repellent too. If you look in the left column on the paper at 1:30 around the 25 mark it says that they used a 26.4% mixture manufactured by Bird-X and sold under the name Bird Shield. This is probably exactly how they made the Grāpples😂

[@Audvil]

Good catch

[@kylewitter2806]

Just did a little research. The Bird Stop container has the Bird-X branding on it.

[@the_sad_wallet1553]

@@kylewitter2806oh yeah, it even says so on the bottle at 2:18

[@sebchess3555]

@@the_sad_wallet1553 from the patent: "For the below listed examples, the preferred admixture included an “off-the-shelf" 26.4% solution of methyl anthra nilate, as manufactured by Bird-X, Inc. of Chicago, Ill., U.S.A., and marketed under the names of “Bird ShieldTM Bird Repellent” and “Fruit Shield Repellent.” This standard, con centrated form of methyl anthranilate includes a small amount of alcohol, which apparently acts as a surfactant and emulsifier"

[@gorgeluis]

He definitely read all the patent and knew that but thought it would be funny to play dumb for the video

[@Namjiook]

I remember being a little kid in Wisconsin in the early 2000s buying Grapples. We didn’t have them all that often because they were expensive, but they were delicious. I think about them like once I year, so it was cool to see how they were made. When I was 5 I thought they were made by some sort of genetic breeding, but it never made sense for obvious reasons. Thanks for the amazing content!

[@Certainvie]

I regret to say I was not shocked by Nigel needing to taste diluted bird stop, though I’m wholly disappointed 💀

[@fatmabhehe1090]

Everyone died in the making of the vid

[@PhantomSavage]

When I first started the video and I saw the bird stop, I went "Ah cool, so he's going to separate out the Methyl Anthranilate from the bird stop before diluting it." Then the video went on. "... he's going to separate out the Methyl Anthranilate from the poison, right?" He did not, in fact, separate the Methyl Anthranilate. Homeboy just dunked an apple in 73.6% mystery chemicals and ate it.

[@vhaelen326]

what poison? no where on the label does it say poison... granted it mentioned the poison controll center if it was swallowed but in the same sentence it mentions to give the person a glass of water and nile diluted the solution by ALOT but lets be honest, that label is there for liability reasons also a poison would have worse results then a repellent in this case, an orchard is under the open sky, killing a couple of birds will achieve nothing, scarring the ever loving bird shit out of them with a strong burning after taste will achieve alot more because that bird will stay away from the orchard and its offspring will too!

[@FullMastFlex]

*FOOD GRADE poison (:

[@Mumantaii]

It clearly says bird stop and he's no bird. Totally safe.

[@berhonkusbardledoo]

@@vhaelen326 yapper

[@rayvanwayenburg998]

Somebody doesn’t understand science 😂

[@failgamerful]

The oddly specific 26.4% tells me that the bird stop is actually the main component for infusing the apple.

[@MermaidMakes]

I wonder if the guy who came up with the patent had to use the product for whatever reason, figured out it was safe to consume in small amounts, and proceeded to dunk his apples into it.

[@SianaGearz]

According to some sleuths it might be another very similar product, called Bird Shield. But by all reason they might be equivalent. I think 26.4% might well be due to fundamental properties of this grape flavour chemical, such as its solubility in... Bird-X Bird Stop doesn't specify, Bird Shield specifies as "inert ingredients". Inert. So it's not alcohol. Water, should be water? It is water soluble. The MSDS of these two products disagree on the safety of the product. Bird Stop claims to be a Category 5 Acute Toxin, while Bird Shield says it's "generally recognised as safe" but irritating to skin and eyes. Table salt is Category 5 Acute Toxin, so make of that what you will, with estimated lethal toxicity several times higher. Just in case, i'm not convinced i would want to use Bird Stop, but i think they're likely doing the same exact thing as Bird Shield, they're just being overly cautious, or just uncertain of the purity of their raw ingredients. Maybe their water is an Acute Toxin. Hold your Wee for a Wii.

[@Telthar]

Company got out of the game before internet articles came out that the company was giving people apples dipped in Bird Stop (or other similar product with "Keep out of reach of children" printed on it)

[@pottingsoil723]

That can't be healthy xD

[@allenwalker4703]

@@pottingsoil723 If it's healthy enough for birds it's healthy enough for me

[@boatingboy1011]

I bet a bird hasn’t even landed on you since you filmed this!

[@Jannomag]

MANT is used for meds, sweets and cosmetics and totally safe as aroma. For birds it’s safe too but it causes pain in their eyes, beak and throat triggered by a nerve which reacts to the MANT.

[@SecretSunglasses]

i remember watching a Vice piece about this years ago, it seemed like the company was doing quite well at the time and didn't seem to be happy that people were suggesting that they were just soaking apples in bird repellent when they were definitely just soaking apples in bird repellent

[@HankFacepunch]

Underrated comment.

[@nurajannattaslima9853]

@@HankFacepunch underrated comment

[@felixrenard2438]

@@nurajannattaslima9853 underrated comment

[@Fanimati0n]

​@@nurajannattaslima9853 underrated comment

[@bigfroggy22]

Bro TY for the comment - for everyone else kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3i5XqWEbsqmoa8

[@shmack5693]

I for sure thought this was an April fools joke the entire time.

[@Darknesssleeps]

Me too

[@DerangedPacman]

the joke is that there is none

[@dynastylobster8957]

today for april fools: i made a cancer apple!

[@jameslurid9269]

Me too lol

[@toxicflicks1928]

I heard about grapples many years ago from a random guy I was teamed with on a video game I thought he was joking then I looked it up and found out it was real. I had totally forgotten about them until this video! I've always wanted to try one

[@helper_bot]

well now you know how. time to buy the bird repellant

[@Valfaun]

i just discovered these channels today and NileRed is interesting and all, but i just love the chaotic energy of NileBlue

[@ivannoneyah7888]

Nile’s #1 contact in his phone is poison control

[@namehere973]

Chemistry teacher: You are not allowed to eat or drink anything in the class That one kid in the back:

[@ChapuleTaylor]

kid named finger:

[@ResinAlchemist2024]

That kid let the intrusive thoughts win.

[@Kazrel]

Dude I cannot count the number of times we used a Bunsen burner to cook something in the back.

[@pijoz3328]

​@@Kazreli eat toxic chemicals for breakfast and their fumes for dinner

[@Ldysith84]

I always wanted to try one of these! I never knew how it was made either this was neat!

[@Moldeebread]

LETS GOO IM NOT HALLUCINATING! I GOT THESE AS A KID ONCE AND NOBODY BELIEVED ME I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY

[@ashtoneventual3467]

I had this as a kid, and I remember being disappointed that it tasted like grape candy instead of actual grape. And now NileBlue has blessed me with the reason why

[@L1ttlef0ot]

Me too! I was in 3rd or 4th grade and a rep from the company came by our school (the same city that the company was based in), and I was disappointed that the grape flavor was not like actual grape

[@mrmolasses5366]

Try real concord grapes they taste like the grape candies atleast the ones i grow at my house

[@LostwaveTT]

@@mrmolasses5366They taste great!!

[@shabazali8225]

I think osmosis is going on

[@jovinprime]

Nah cos bird stop actually comes from grape seeds which is also where the flavoring is from so it’s not the direct grape itself

[@othervinny]

Imagine sharing an office space with NileBlue and seeing a completely normal-looking apple in your fridge with a note that says "DO NOT EAT (or you will die)"

[@salpaca53]

Well the apple is soaked in bird stop so he's potentially telling the truth.

[@jameskelly1680]

At least it doesn't say DEAD DOVE DO NOT EAT.

[@mendozakoby]

Weird snow white remake but alright

[@Dominicthedonkey]

Average fridge experience

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

@@mendozakoby If the Evil Queen left a note saying "DO NOT EAT", then it's Snow White's fault.

[@PoloMoney]

I like watching these guys videos, they seem like cool dudes and just generally good people that just have fun with science. I'm from a different path in life but have the same interests when it comes to this. Thank you

[@ezzzzyyy]

Nile blue is where Nile Red's dreams come to die

[@ChaaRl13]

The fact Nile tastes everything he makes before finishing whatever project he's working on in this specific channel kills me.

[@MERCHIODOS]

Its like he has a death wish

[@TheBackyardChemist]

Tasting chemicals was a really common thing among chemists 100 years ago. It was how the first artificial sweeteners were discovered.

[@williamliang7572]

it probably kills him a bit, too

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

@@TheBackyardChemist And also the last.

[@albino478gaming5]

If the videos come out, he probably survived. Probably

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

0:49 The fact that you are instantly redirected into an Indonesian gambling site had me in stitches omg

[@NoahGooder]

i bet that website is going to recieve more traffic then it ever saw before because of this video.

[@KeranMacet]

gacor rek🤣🤣

[@RefabbiaAdha]

Go to comment section to make sure I'm not the only one :))

[@314rft]

The fact it's Indonesian specifically is the best part.

[@Cloud2096]

​@@KeranMacetgacor kang 😂

[@4dirt2racer0]

thank u so much for doin what u do man. my health kinda took a left turn to shit city thanks to cancer a few months ago n it was hard enough trying to find interesting, worth while things to watch beFore i was stuck in a dam chair most the time... n being stuck without cable or satellite or anything like netflix or hulu doesnt help much either : / so thanks again please dont ever stop makin videos, urs r some of the best

[@COLETRAINYOU]

I'm itching for more Nilered and Blue videos!!!

[@Gajsu1]

If you check their website through the web archive, you can see the video of them making the grapples, and they were literally pouring milk-like concentrate into the tank, in which they were submerging the apples, They were submerging it for 2 minutes, then the apples were rinsed in water and dried. The funniest thing is i swear they were using the Bird Stop but rebranded with their own sticker.

[@viggofriberg]

Wait really?

[@toms169]

Stop the video at 01:30 and read the text block to the left of Example 3. Then check the brand on the bird repellant bottle at 02:16. That’s proof that they literally used bird repellant to make grapples 😂

[@RagavJanardhan]

@@toms169 Thats actually insane

[@battie893]

@@toms169 good grab, good old bird X XD

[@user-youzer]

Ahaha, Nile is idea-grabber)

[@frozentiger2175]

I remember when my mom used to buy those. Loved them for some reason

[@dankscarce]

*Mixes Bird stop and water* Nigel: "It looks like milk, so it must taste like milk" I mean sure why not 😂

[@DemiseTLG]

If you pause @1:30 on the left side it says to use “26.4% of methyl solution of antranilate, as manufactured by Bird-X”. So the Bird Stop or some other form bird repellent solution is literally what was used to create the Grapple. The 26.4% was no coincidence, as it is the solution that was used to create the product. Grapple was most likely founded by a farmer using bird repellent for its intended purpose on his/her crops of apples. Edit: Bird Stop is made by Bird-X, so it is the exact solution used to make it.

[@JDNboy12]

damn... they definitely read that, which makes their shock about the bird stop being the perfect amount feel really scripted now :/

[@CrazyAnimeFan321]

Omg that's insane. I'm surprised they didn't notice that while pointing to the paper patent 💀😂

[@venusplatoon2839]

@@JDNboy12bruh ofc the video is scripted for entertainment? Stupid comment lol

[@justinminer1354]

The conspiracy is even bigger. BirdStop CREATED Graples and immediately discontinued them when they got popular to sell more BirdStop to KZbin viewers. The deep state destroyed the evidence, but just connect the dots 🧠💯

[@unknownuser3000]

Yeah it talks about it using bird stop and bird feed in the paper it's no coincidence lmao

[@user-wn5fc7bh5l]

I cannot grapple with this fact

[@pinkshortcomedy]

I hate this. take my like.

[@Dominicthedonkey]

>:(

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Well, not since they went out of business, anyway.

[@naf2435]

This video unlocked a memory for me. We always had Grapples in my house growing up. I used to take one with me to school every day as part of my lunch lmao

[@jeremyfisher8512]

Nile red grapples with his desire to sip bird repellant

[@frankjung9094]

they were 100% dipping apples in bird repellent

[@azrobbins01]

Spraying the trees with bird repellent, you mean.

[@daklhs6460]

​@@azrobbins01 Actually dipped. Even the patent states that.

[@azrobbins01]

@@daklhs6460 I am sure that for the purposes of the patent, they dip them and hold them at certain temperatures for specific times. When they first discovered it, it was just farmers spraying bird repellant on their trees, and they can't patent that.

[@daklhs6460]

@@azrobbins01 probably that happened when they discovered. But their process to make grapples is/was dipping the apple.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

Read the patent, it literally talks about using bird x/bird stop

[@BlackSoap361]

I had an Econ professor give an entire hour lecture on analyzing the cost-effectiveness of bird repellents, which ended with the conclusion that the most cost-effective bird repellent was “grape soda” aka “artificial grape flavor”.

[@bibasik7]

I wonder if you could make grapples with grape soda instead of bird stop

[@Faunarr]

@@bibasik7 the soda may have a lower concentration of it than diluted grape stop would. Potentially meaning that it doesn't have a high enough of a concentration to make a difference. As well as the fact that if that is the case then if it diffuses into the apple it will only have a part of the percentage of concentration as the soda hence possibly making zero difference. It may also be that such a low concentration would struggle to penetrate the skin causing this to either not work or take a much longer time to work than simply dipping it in diluted grapestop

[@WorldifySanity]

While it might be great at repelling birds, I have a feeling that many bugs and insects would reeeeeally be quite fond of it.

[@korbyd236]

Very much wish I could see this professor I'd gladly sit through his entire lecture this is the type of weird niche shit I crave💔

[@drippingwax]

The camera man said it tasted like Kool-aid. Why not use concentrated Kool-aid instead?! Also, wouldn't MSDS show what the other ingredients?!

[@hades_town]

i remember trying grapples back in the day, they were basically like you described, normal apple alongside an interesting grape taste

[@AidanKnepelCubing]

this guy reminds me of veritasium, love the vid NileBlue, keep up the good work!

[@BenHawkinsvids]

Double checking the date 5 times to ensure this is not an April fools prank

[@madelineong5134]

Honestly I think he posted it before April fools day so we wouldn’t take it as a joke (though considering his content, we shouldn’t be surprised by this. After all he’s done stuff like this before, making cinnamon candy out of styrofoam, hot sauce out of plastic, cotton candy out of cotton, etc)

[@KrakNabots]

Jk​@@madelineong5134

[@ludvig3242]

This is not even that outrageous of a video 😂 it’s pretty mild

[@thethreatner]

It's 29-March so it's SAFE!!!! 🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@CarbonKevin]

The method described in the patent isn't exactly how they were made. When you looked closely at grapples, you could see tiny perforations in the skin with even spacing over the entire apple - there was clearly some additional injection or just perforation to better absorb the flavor compound. And yes, they tasted like grape-y apples. I liked them.

[@user-te8vv5fv1p]

make nile see this spam like

[@vitonigd1903]

nile see this

[@arcaears]

NILE PERFORATE YOUR APPLE

[@lemonz1769]

Dude you ate bird repellant!

[@megadeth116]

There were multiple formulas iirc, maybe nile did the other one

[@shelbyparkinson1785]

I LOVED grapples. I’ve looked for them a few times over the years too

[@maths4297]

I bought a package of these when they were for sale and they tasted like figi apples that had been dipped in grape flavor. Apples have a very neutral flavor so other fruit flavours layer over it very easily.

[@anintelligenttalkingcowtha131]

Nileblue tasted birdstop and wasn't stopped, I think it's likely he isn't a bird. We gotta check Nilered now.

[@bobrozz7791]

I had seen an old VICE investigation, where they found out grapples were just Fuji apples and honey crisps sprayed in bird stop. Apparently all you had to do was drive next to the orchards and the strong smell of artificial grape was pungently in the air. The thin skin of Fuji and honey crisp apples let the flavoring absorb easier.

[@checker4714]

Damn it I can't believe I bought and ate some 🤦‍♂️

[@ayyylmao9022]

I thought this stuff was genetically modified with grape genes for years lol

[@therisinger8142]

The vice story is titled "An Apple That Tastes Like a Grape: The Politics of Food" if anyone was interested

[@sneakiertech]

I had one as a kid when my school gave out a free fruit every day for a year as a trial program. I thought these were made by soaking the apple in grape juice.

[@Ne1vaan]

So they had a bunch of weird fuckin apples they needed to sell... in comes the marketing team!

[@Eli-dx2uj]

8:44 dude takes a bite out of it without even washing it.

[@elizabethr.9359]

Yeah for some reason that’s not my biggest concern here

[@damexifry]

this feel like the type of stuff i would do when bored

[@Slech54]

Just looked at the grapple website on the wayback machine. There was videos about how the grapples were made, and in it they show the mixture used to give the flavor and it's the exact same color as the bird stop.

[@cpikl2003]

Those mfs really went "hey dude lets put apples in bird stop and sell that shit" and then went away without eleborating

[@sammyjones8279]

​@@cpikl2003shows up. Grapes your apple. Leaves without elaborating.

[@jasongonzalez8974]

@@cpikl2003prob why they went away

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@suskysulky]

​@@cpikl2003bro it tastes like grapes🗿

[@atch300]

at 1:29 (on the left) you can confirm that bird repellent was actually used in the recipe. Its literally called "BirdShield - Bird Repellent". So thats where the 26.4% came from.

[@cheesycaverat]

if anyone wants the full text "For the below listed examples, the preferred admixture included an “off-the-shelf” 26.4% solution of methyl anthranilate, as manufactured by Bird-X, Inc. of Chicago, Ill., U.S.A., and marketed under the names of “Bird Shield™ Bird Repellent” and “Fruit Shield Repellent.” This standard, concentrated form of methyl anthranilate includes a small amount of alcohol, which apparently acts as a surfactant and emulsifier. For the following examples, the solution concentrations refer to and include percentages that approximate the actual concentration of methyl anthranilate active ingredient in the admixture. Alternatively, a pure methyl anthranilate could be employed for the purposes of the present invention, diluted to the required concentration and most preferably with small quantities of an emulsifier, as typically employed to those skilled in the art of solution preparation."

[@ludvig3242]

Cool. Molecules are just molecules after all

[@atch300]

@@ludvig3242 yea nilered/blue has proven that time and time again

[@W4TH3JE5U5]

Good spot! A bit of youtube deception from Nile when the answer is right there. "Had some trouble making this ourselves when we stumbled upon", you didn't stumble on anything, the answer was literally on the same page.

[@TheRedVelvetCakeMC]

@@W4TH3JE5U5 they lied for dramatic effect. KZbin is no different than reality tv

[@avg.player]

20th century chemistry vibes. Also, it has been 3 weeks and there wasn't a sign of life from Nile 😥

[@VEEZER1]

You encouraged me to try this. Thank you so much! 💋

[@timjhonson8730]

10:04

[@jamestedjo3736]

00:50 I love how the shady link is so beyond shady that the website turned into a random shady Indonesian online gambling site.

[@ki6108]

illegal indonesian betting site got into nileblue video, no indonesian ready for that jumpscare.

[@azzar.]

For sure, yea.

[@kaniaida2149]

sumpah i had to pause the video to process the sudden indo flashed on my screen

[@KLAO_]

This is the unproudest Indonesian reference of all time.

[@hiitsdahee9400]

lol i had to double check it and was like "hah..?"

[@ashleybyrd2015]

It's so sad that NileBlue died from grape apple related complications after releasing this video. RIP :(

[@daniocampo1992]

At least we still got nilered left

[@kimhoppis693]

@@daniocampo1992but no more war crimes :(

[@aleksitjvladica.]

@@daniocampo1992 He looks like the same person.

[@brendoderf4748]

​@@aleksitjvladica. Wooosh

[@pekinoantis4405]

​@@aleksitjvladica.R/woosh

[@johnnybon258]

The forbidden apple

[@MathIguess]

"If it's good for a bird it's good for us too, right?" *chubbyemu music starts*

[@JeffSpurlock]

For whatever reason, the mystery of the missing Grapple really got to me. Turns out, Grapple Fruits' sole source for the Grapples was C&O Nursery in Wenatchee, WA. Likely, Grapple Fruits was a subsidiary brand of the business, but haven't been able to confirm. In September/August of 2023, the Nursery's owner shut the nursery down, and Grapple production ceased with the nursery closing. The Inventor listed in the patent, Gary A. Snyder, is part of the family that ran C&O. The CEO at the time of their closing was a Todd Snyder, and I found that the nursery management had passed through 4 generations of Snyder's. Gary was Secretary.

[@mol_old]

Interesting

[@AtrocityEquine01]

Do yo think they closed down possibly because of that and maybe because they weren't selling well?

[@cocoaddict]

@@AtrocityEquine01 i have my suspicions that it was purely because of the grapple. given washington produces like, 60% of apples in the us, it honestly could just come down to competition. C&O might have been around for a while, but if the way the business was run started going downhill recently, or they were badly affected by wildfires or even just the weather relatively recently, it wouldn't be too surprising to see a nursery go under. sad, but not surprising. this is all just my two cents and i'm no expert though, so what do i know?

[@ramley]

I remember Grapples from when I was young!! I would have to ask my mom exactly what happened to them, but I remember having thought they got banned for one reason or another

[@vetchable]

@@ramley i wonder if its because of dogs. apparently, grapes are incredibly toxic to dogs

[@acehilm5001]

take a shot whenever nile says “i’m sure it’s fine”

[@intrazelica]

i dont want to die of alcohol poisoning

[@TimeLemur6]

Nah, I'm sure you'll be fine.

[@sammslamm2427]

Love that the Birdstop jug says "keep out of reach of children" for fear they will ingest it

[@MaceValor]

At the Smiths near my house they sell them, news to me that no one else can find them, I see them every time I go grocery shopping (Henderson NV)

[@SpartanIVAlpha015]

Bird Stop's product page on their website claims it has _"No harmful chemicals"_ and is _"Safe for use around children, plants, and food crops"_ and that it works because _"methylanthranilate (bitter, smelly derivative of concord grapes) has a taste and smell that birds avoid - irritates their trigeminal systems"_ What this tells me is that *drinking Bird Stop* is going to be a painful, but probably non-lethal experience. However *methyl anthranilate* is safe to consume. Not only did Nile use it to make his grape soda previously, it's used in grape Kool-Aid, sodas, and candy.

[@gmhs2]

Yeah this is what I thought too, just make a sort of flavor agent birds don't like and they'll learn not to come around real fast, same goes for most animals honestly, some are just harder to find the right flavor for.

[@falxonPSN]

But again, the problem is we have no idea what else is in there to dilute the active ingredient. Safe for use around children still does not mean good to eat in larger quantities.

[@szaty2]

"It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling" - makes a video useing it as flavoiring on the heath side, it says its fine to spray it on fruits after dilution, and handle them after drying, but sais 1% dilution and "5-8 days or when no odor" to eat... so the recipe was 1 minute in 10% to make it an overkill, so if you eat it 1-2weeks later its still grapy... he just ate it fresh...

[@jkazos]

@@falxonPSN Example: Toothpaste is completely safe and harmless to use as toothpaste, but if you start eating tubes of toothpaste, you will die.

[@bartolomeothesatyr]

@@falxonPSNmeh, he diluted the Bird Stop by a factor of 50 and only held the apple in the solution for a few seconds longer than one minute. Taking a bite out of that apple after it has dried and aged for 48 hours is a far cry from eating large quantities.

[@christophero1496]

Just an fyi. Food grade does not necessarily mean edible. However, it does mean it is considered safe to come into contact with food during the harvest or production process. If anyone else decides to try this, make sure you don't drink the bird stop (the small taste he did I image was perfectly fine), but in theory you can soak apples and eat the apples

[@djk1288]

Exactly, I know for a fact that there's food-grade silicone rubber (like for baking molds), but that doesn't mean you can just chow down on silicone straight from the caulk.

[@Wulfjager]

Nice try, fed. I know you're trying to prevent us from knowing how delicious the product is. You can't stop me from drinking it

[@BerkinGG]

Yup. Food grade just means "safe for use in food prep". I have "food grade" sodium hydroxide in my kitchen cabinet for making pretzels.

[@itsdokko2990]

T H E F O R B I D D E N Y O G H U R T

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@electrotsmishar]

What a noble idea!!!

[@ac5707]

Wouldn’t be surprised if one day Niles make a blob monster

[@ryanjohnson3951]

I have eaten grapple! Probably 15 years ago or so. The flavor was mild exactly like what you describe. It sounds like you produced the product that I ate exactly. Well done

[@jakev5187]

Glad you lived to tell the tale. Sounds like our boy Nile isn’t going to die yet

[@savannawithoutanh5973]

I remember thinking Gapples smelled like Grape Kool-Aid

[@normanoh5730]

I've had grapple multiple times way back when they were sold. It's literally apple with artificial grape flavor. You get a little fake koolaid grape taste on the peel of the apple but the flavor was NOT present in the flesh of the apple. I can swear by this, because that's what I wanted and that is not what is was.

[@baronbrummbar8691]

they where in circulation from around 2010 to 2012 atleast over here i read somebodysaying he has seen them in 2005

[@sethsei8746]

i have never been more scared for his safety than i was when he tasted the diluted bird stop

[@JimboDoomface]

"Kinda burns your tongue."

[@alex_288]

Bro binging back my childhood memories i didn’t even know I had. Grapples are gas

[@jacksonwagner5963]

I feel like this man deserves the title of alchemist at this point

[@amansparekh]

NileBlue: The % is the same, so who cares about the other ingredients!

[@vhaelen326]

its probably the exact thing they used in the patent, the percentage is just to much of a coincidence and the fact the patent doesnt list what the other ingredients are is most likely because it doesnt say on the bird stop, also the fact that its bird stop makes me think this is an accidental discovery rather then on purpose, it would also explain why the original grapple's arent around anymore because people somewhere learned of it or the farmers figured out "huh, maybe this would be REALLY BAD if it became public"

[@user-zh7ml9nt6y]

Some things are just too perfect to resist...

[@unfunnycesium]

@PoorWorldwithoutgod good lord stop posting that on every comment that has more than a hundred likes

[@rabbit6872]

@@vhaelen326 "probably the same" is kind of a gamble when the MSDS says the other stuff in it is acutely toxic and to wear viton gloves as it can penetrate the skin

[@vhaelen326]

@@unfunnycesiumyoure argueing with a bot...

[@tiporari]

I bought and ate some grapples when they were still being sold. The grape flavor and smell was only in the skin, it didn't penetrate into the flesh. The smell was eerily grape like.

[@LightsJusticeZ]

Yeah I was severely disappointed it was only the skin. I wanted my crunchy grape.

[@trooperj9152]

Yeah, I thought they smelled of grape but still tasted of apple. Was sorta disappointed.

[@mrlithium69]

I was wondering how they were gonna get the flavor INTO it. that was the main technical obstacle I was interested in and im very disappointed to hear its not solved.

[@thatenbyartist517]

Yeah they were not very good at all

[@richthisguy1215]

We used to have this when I was a kid, they really need to bring this back :(

[@ADecentCarry]

A thing that might be interesting would be making a grape pie using grapples

[@schemen974]

The animation at 6:35 really helped me gain understanding of the process.

[@hondahirny]

Clearly, Lucas Film was involved. I only wish Hans Zimmer did the sound effects. 😂

[@TPE_Mitchell]

😂😂😂😂

[@Quzga]

7:52 That "hm" from the cameraman was such a "That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about apples to dispute it"

[@pixelatedluis]

lol true

[@maritoguionyo]

Essentially

[@BasicInfo911]

R.I.P NileRed May We All subscribe In His Honour.

[@HundWasser]

We used to get these when i was a kid, i havent thought about this in ages.

[@teamtechworked8217]

I work in packaging of pharmaceuticals. The safety seal on that Bird Stop was all kinds of burnt. 1 of 2 things happened during packaging. 1. The cap didn't get applied tight befor induction sealing or 2. the bottle got stuck under the induction sealer. Not sure if the integrity of the product would be compromised or not, but I wouldn't have wanted to be the one to test it.

[@joshd79]

tastes like grape tho! mmmm... but burns a bit lol

[@skipper472]

@@joshd79 Methyl anthranilate with a teeny bit of hydrofluoric acid for that extra kick

[@UserUnknown8570]

The reason that the company "disappeared" is because they got out of the game before it became publicly known that they were selling people apples dipped in bird repellent. The chemical does in fact say "Keep out of reach of children" and "If swallowed contact poison control immediately"

[@Skorpeonismyrealname]

You could argue that there's something in the evaporation process (or given plenty of time after) that makes the propblems of drinking the slop intert. So it would be "safe" to do so in a controlled setting. But you also have to count for the lowest common denominator, because suppose someone out there loves it too much and eats 24 per meal with a glass of water that might also reactivate the process. Unless, of course, they did something so shady the FDA shut them down and everyone was legally gagged in the ensuing lawsuit or something.

[@Ruinatior]

Then how the heck is it food safe💀💀💀

[@MrAusdrifter]

​@@Ruinatiorfood grade and food safe are not the same

[@mnxs]

​@@Ruinatior"food grade" is a classification for chemicals' _purity._ It means that it is sufficiently clean of _contaminants_ that it is safe for use in foodstuffs (and personal care products, etc.). But the chemical itself can still be toxic or dangerous if ingested/used in sufficiently large amounts or high concentrations.

[@Ruinatior]

@@mnxs ok thank you

[@eduardogutierrez1718]

i tried these apples when i visited sacramento california about 10 years ago and they were amazing, i wish i could get some more agian

[@leonardokotekselistreosorio]

I don’t think my brain could handle something grape taste and apple texture

[@potatoesindrag4095]

So as another comment replied pointed out. At 1:30 pause and see on the left side clearly says to use BIRD X also know as bird stop or fruit shield. So in case you wondering, Nile knew, Nile did, and Nile ate. Case solved. Thanks for the great upload.

[@ZoinkMeisterPatrick]

I am in total agreement except for the fact that it doesn't actually say that. It instead says: "For the below listed examples, the preferred admixture included an "off-the-shelf" 26.4% solution of methyl anthranilate as manufactured by Bird-X, Inc. of Chicago, Ill., U.S.A., and marketed under the names of 'Bird Shield™Bird Repellent' and 'Fruit Shield Repellent.'" It may not actually say "bird stop" anywhere, but yeah. Probably close enough for him to guess. (This wasn't written to argue against your point so much as to save someone from having to pause and find it for themselves.)

[@hugocorral7067]

Thanks for the grape upload.

[@trophykid1635]

And at 1:42 it says only to dip the apple for 1 second, but he does it for 1 minute. This may have been a different part than the section where he was reading from because it does seem like his process was slightly different so this may have been a typo in the summarized section.

[@secrettaco5027]

I might know why 26.4 % : 26.4 % of 1 US Gallon is 1 liter and Methyl anthranilate turns solid at 24°C ( slightly above room temperature ) . So maybe the pure compound comes from a company that uses the metric system and then the manufacturers adapt the formula to the gallon format, mixing it with stuff to keep it liquid or at least not solid.

[@MadContendery]

underrated comment (unless this is just made up)

[@Crazyclay78YT]

@@MadContendery honestly it does make sense

[@secrettaco5027]

@@MadContendery 1 Liter = 0.264 gallon that's for sure, problem is my reasoning only makes sense for the Bird Stop. Those apples were made in US that's a start, maybe the production units also used the gallon system for the bath procedure and it was something like " mix 1 dose of creamy flavor with X amount of water ".

[@cosal222]

Good point

[@chaschuky999]

@@secrettaco5027could be the grapple was accidentally discovered by a farmer using bird stop to keep birds off their trees. Then they thought it could be marketable and said 26.4% works, let’s run with it.

[@rainbowbunchie8237]

Well I'm trying it. Thanks.

[@Zack-qe2or]

I wish I saw your camerama say "WHAT"!! WHEN HE FOUND OUT THAT HE MIGHT DIE😂😂😂

[@KingChaos117]

Bro finally remembered his account password

[@psych0pup]

it's only been a month the last upload gap was 6 months what are you talking about 😭😭😭😭

[@Jinsei_0.0_]

Yep💀

[@asher3311]

​@@psych0pup yeah plus there was an upload on the main channel in the last month lol

[@Cory_]

​@@psych0pupDead internet theory.

[@loaafe]

ive seen this exact comment on like 4 different channels now