NEXT GEN VR Physics - New Adaptive Leg System!

[@NimsoStudios]

Help me out on PATREON to keep this stuff happening! Playable Tech Demo coming as soon as possible! The historical videos suggested in the video: The First Project TX Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnbPYoBoirBlf9U My First Active Ragdoll VR Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iai0d56wd66WsLs My First Physics in VR Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ3JdaqVbrKWr9E

[@noahkirkpatrick8912]

Tech Demo release and ill Pateron ya buddy. Great solves for physics keep up the good work.

[@robertwyatt3912]

PLAYABLE TECH DEMO :O!! Wasn’t the last demo the Spiderini one from years ago? Kinda crazy.

[@theunderscoreisme]

You are literally pulling me towards VR with all of your videos. I CANNOT wait for what the future will come with all of these systems!

[@Y0urL0caldumbass.]

Great stuff bro… cant wait to get the tech demo when it comes out!

[@OrangeTiger71-d5z]

if i had money i would donate, I've been fallowing this project since 2019. keep up the amazing work!

[@MaliciousDiamonds]

I didn't even think about the legs not having one foot down at all times, but man this looks sooo much better than most other vr games with legs. Also, I love the fact that there are nearly no cuts in the entire video, and you are just talking to us about each of the talking points. It really does help us understand what is and isn't possible.

[@NimsoStudios]

There are no cuts at all. I don't really like cutting videos and only doing it sparingly in some videos. I pretty much one take everything on my channel.

[@Ryles_]

Its better than any vr game put there not most lol

[@mylescorley1978]

@@NimsoStudios Ok so we’re going to forget about the intro/outro cuts?

[@CardboardRaider]

@@mylescorley1978 I believe he is talking about the main video, not the parts that don’t change and are fairly short, the intro and outro could count as cuts if you are talking about the entirety of the video.

[@mylescorley1978]

@@CardboardRaider it’s a joke

[@jakehate]

Your vids make me excited for the future of VR even just the demo playtest ground you made looks super fun

[@Ryles_]

The way the leg moves while the other leg is connected to the heavy ball is absolutely crazy

[@AncientMaaz]

Games like getting over it in vr and rock climbing games are probably gonna be phenomenal after this innovation.

[@23grt]

Honestly this tech can revolutionize VR. I hope you are proud of yourself man, this is all awesome!

[@DubstepDrag0n]

This stuff is rad, as someone who's in industry working in ARVR I can say for certain you have some amazing clips here and presentation. I'd be interested to see how this could expand into a networking system with 3-4 or more people in a scene.

[@financelician3564]

Tried to do something very similar with VRParty

[@nathanwalker9425]

This is some pretty cool stuff! In terms of helping people understand the uniqueness of the hand physics, it might be helpful if you showed some side-by-side footage of the "wobbly" behavior you describe seeing in other games. Also, a few things I'm curious about: - Does the feet pushing against the ground actually drive the character forward, or is there still a "magical" force propelling the torso? - Have you looked into making the characters strength vary based on stamina? For example, muscles tend to fatigue after exerting force for an extended period. I'm sure you could reference some actual biomechanical research to implement that kind of thing realistically. - Are the spine and hips infinitely strong? And do you plan on making their strength more realistic? For example, when crawling over a ledge, i doubt someone hold themselves in a planking position like you show in the video.

[@zev4133]

I feel like giving muscles stamina would be cool but at the same time worsen user experience. We already have limits like how long we could hold our arms out. Adding another virtual stamina limitation in a game could (in my opinion) end up quite annoying, especially if it doesn't line up with actual IRL stamina levels.

[@MyEarsHurts]

to be honest it does kinda look like its a magical force while having the character still technically be a ragdoll

[@cutoutstudios.]

It may not be new, but it is taking full advantage of what’s available and I love it for that

[@luke.rayman]

This should be implemented in all VR games! The way your VR arms match your real life limits is amazing, the movement of shoulders looks very realistic and natural, I love it! And the physics affecting your virtual body is so good. Seriously, this should be the default engine for all VR apps.

[@michirex8766]

I was stunned when I saw that the elbow movement matches the real movement. 🙀🙀🙀🙀 (I'm not an English speaker)

[@williamsmith6921]

I would like to see a bit more info on the performance impact and CPU usage. Especially in something like a multiplayer context where you have to simulate dozens of the same rig and either have the local machine simulate all of them, or network all of their movements, this is extremely promising though.

[@coltynstone-lamontagne]

​@michirex8766 you said that perfectly 💪

[@AncientMaaz]

I'm guessing there might be a strength feature which allows you to move heavy objects more easily, and imagine making gym and workout games using that feature.

[@coltynstone-lamontagne]

Lol playing gym mini games to increase your strength actually sounds like it could work well in a prison escape game

[@sams_salad_service3653]

I'm very excited to see how this continues to advance, you are doing great and innovative work for the VR space. I would like to point out that the heavy ball made me think about the idea of a strength system based on legs and core as well as arms, where you can't pick up the ball straight from the ground with your arms while standing, but if you crouch and hull it up over your legs as you stand back up then you might have the strength to pick it up. Similar to what strongmen do when lifting atlas stones. I'm sure this is a very complicated idea to implement but I thought I would voice it anyway, could be very cool in the future.

[@valfonso678]

Great work Nimso, gonna watch this while I take a shit

[@sebaprime6411]

bon appetit

[@Thiccwigoo]

@@sebaprime6411 bro what

[@BillyBob_1177]

Boneapple teeth

[@HowdyParadox]

god, this could be incredible for a gmod-like multiplayer VR game. great work.

[@TheOneTrueJack]

Looking so good. I look forward to seeing feet automatically adjust to climbing positions on ladders, ropes, poles, etc. But other commenters are right, this is a much better system than most of what is out there currently.

[@WUVGAWORE]

Watching your videos is such a treat dude, I usually put stuff like this on as background noise but I'm glued to my screen because of the tech and enthusiasm. Keep it up! Can't wait to see it playable for us.

[@salemisjuucy]

Exactly, rare for me to watch a 30 minute video of a dude yapping about a tech demo but man i've got a smile on my face the whole time and i'm gasping at what he's doing i'm in love with this technology and his enthusiasm.

[@WUVGAWORE]

Watching someone talk about something they truly love will always be exhilarating@@salemisjuucy

[@KGTv123]

Dude your work is incredible. Not only that, but you seem like such a genuinely happy guy. You NEED to voice a character for a game or movie. You have the perfect timbre to voice a big, fluffy character lol. Keep up the great work!

[@toop4538]

I love how the legs work here though it still looks like theyre working independently from the top half of the body, i think adding like slight leaning to the walk/running would add a bit more of a natural look to walking and running. With the top half being stiff straight when running looks a tiiiny bit off

[@duckling8]

It's not like the stiffness is that noticeable unless you're watching the third person view. I also think it would be immersion breaking to have your in-game body in a completely different position from your irl one because bonelab did that when climbing and it messed me up so many times. I thought I made it up and over something when in reality, only my head made it up and I would fall.

[@NimsoStudios]

There is a slight lean on the body. It's not currently strong enough to match the feet because I want to get all my gameplay interactions in first before making the body move a little bit too much in standard movement. Also the velocity of the hip and spine is affected by that meaning the calculations feedback on themselves increasing the chance of glitches.

[@coltynstone-lamontagne]

​@duckling8 yeah the disconnect is more immersion breaking than running with an upright torso which I actually do all the time irl because you need an upright torso when running in icy environments

[@IWAJVR]

When you switched to egg man and the procedural animations looked so crisp I was jaw dropped

[@rioluvo]

these videos are so whimsical, i love his attitude and the way he speaks and explains everything in detail while having fun. the music choice fits so well too, and how its all in one long take 🦔❄

[@Kyle.W]

Bro is just straight up making a better bonelab Super excited for the demo

[@pk251]

this is so so sick, really hope this is expanded upon and polished enough to be used for full length adventure games

[@jadrankoVRCatalans]

The motion of the legs when walking sideways looks a bit strange because the legs cross and sometimes seem to go through each other. However, the swimming and the crawling animations of the legs are just gorgeous. Great great stuff!

[@Kyuschi]

This is progressing very well and giving me a lot of hope for future vr gaming. One thing i noticed you might want to look into as you're readjusting the hip movement stiffness is how people lean towards the direction they're moving. From a physics perspective what you're actually doin when you're walking is falling forwards and repeatedly catching yourself with your feet, so it's slightly odd in the simulation where everything above the hips seems to be staying completely upright while you're moving. Regardless, excited to see what comes next here

[@PajamaMan_]

This is all so fascinating! I'm so glad that you allow us to see the progress as you develop your project, and it's awesome that you managed to find an audience. I find it surprising that this sort of attention to detail about VR controls and representations seems to have never been done before (or at least fully implemented). Is there a reason for that? Is VR tech just that new? Is it too intense computationally to combine with many other systems in a full game?

[@WowLookatThat-xu5eb]

You've done some incredible work! The legs and feet look very lifelike and realistic. Thanks for acknowledging the point about full-body tracking, I've always thought it's a mistake to gloss over technical problems by saying, "We just need more powerful hardware." VR needs more people like you who pull out the full potential of the hardware, which I think is honestly 30% what it could be on average. Keep up the good work!

[@whwhwhhwhhhwhdldkjdsnsjsks6544]

Something interesting would be the ability to contextually switch between leg tracking and, not. So for example if the player was standing still they’d be able to perform a kick, as there isn’t anything else the leg needs to be doing right now for consistency

[@StickzDev]

Been waiting for the next upload and it was worth it

[@yurrboi]

This one man did what billions of dollars and years of development at Meta couldn't do....

[@olivernicholds]

This is one of the few channel I want to have a donate button to fund your inovations. Words can't express how impressive this is! keep up the good work👍

[@NimsoStudios]

I have a Patreon if you'd like to do that. Thank you

[@RemmyBones]

The swimming is NEXT LEVEL! Amazing work man. It's crazy how far you've come.

[@rmfsho]

this looks amazing, cant wait for this to release, definitely getting it day 1. i hope theres multiplayer and it isnt entirely sandbox, (if you are going for that) as these systems would be amazing for a parkour, pvp or a story game. i cant wait for this

[@bukachell]

As soon as you started really moving around my mind was blown, can't believe I've never seen such a thing in a procedural leg system before! The only thing I hope for is the individual motions to appear more natural, but I imagine that's not too easy with a fully procedural system

[@EndoTheBear]

one thing that FBT, specifically traking feet, would be able to bring is kicking. Being able to kick something, being an object or an enemy would be cool, specially seeing how the physics would interact with the forces being applied back into your body while doing it, of course, you can implement a "kick" button too, but I always imagine that kicking irl gives more good brain chemicals lol. I'm loving how the engine is turning out to be and I'm excited to see it's future!

[@DaRoachDoggJrr]

14:49 imagine a player holding onto another player’s leg and being dragged lol

[@Pepper2B]

"NO I DONT WANNA GO INTO THE WATER"

[@PG13park]

Lol

[@constantanxietygames]

Any actual vr dev knows how impressive this stuff is. Im so unbelievably jealous it would take me years to make a full body ik this good.

[@NimsoStudios]

It did take years :D I started experimenting with VR body posing in 2016.

[@bullfrogeth]

Can't wait to see what you do with upper body tracking

[@GL-GildedLining]

I am so impressed by all of this. What a time to be alive!

[@thej0ker249]

Super impressive, the stepping rate is a big problem in games like boneworks, if your sprinting then your legs are just taking really small fast steps. This project could change the way vr games are made, if you sell these tools to developers, vr games will be 100x better

[@jaredh923]

Ive only seen one of your videos Nimso, I dont know much about you, but your physics video was really sick. I watched the entire thing. I hope you make an actual game, or find work doing this. Your work looks good.

[@BritishBoy]

This is super impressive! When can we expect to see these systems implemented into full games? Do you let developers buy access to your systems?

[@taylozen]

i'm a huge nerd for these kinds of technical things and watching the entire system working together is so dang coool. i loved the explanations as well, i don't code for VR but i do some 3d animation and there's a ton of things that i've never considered until now ^^

[@Burningurns]

Found your channel with your last video, I just wanna say the the systems you’ve developed are absolutely incredible. Very talented!

[@Tucagodofmusic]

These remind me of the gun physics demos before boneworks came out. Sometimes the improvements in the physics engines are more exciting than any of the games releasing This is like the Garrys mod of VR and I want it bad

[@40rty7ev3ns]

21:13 I don't think I've ever seen a vr game do this, this is awesome

[@headshotpaul]

That is such a flex with the older videos. Hats off to you my man!

[@SC4TTER_]

I've been following your work for years, I even played that Playground Tech Demo that I remember you advertising was similar to Boneworks before Boneworks even released haha! This is some really really impressive stuff, I can't wait to try the tech demo!

[@NelsonTheAwesome]

Man all the projects that you work on look like they’d be so much fun to play, you’re such an awesome developer man

[@jessjess7572]

I literally remember watching the first project tx video, I'm honestly surprised but glad you're still making this, looks really good and especially with how crawling looks.

[@ryo-kai8587]

Another video to remind me that the VR experience I'm waiting for is on its way. Nice work! I'm excited for this tech to seriously revolutionize VR movement, interactions, immersion and a feeling of connection to your in-game character.

[@James_Kosmo]

i cant wait to see you fixing the weird crossing of the legs. I tried it a while ago with a much simpler ik and i didnt go far lol. So i would love to see it work.

[@LemmonTea]

Another great video from the man himself! Love the development and just how cool it looks, keep it up 👍 ❤

[@RagingGamingBear]

Whats your plans with this? Hobby, to sell on the marketplace as a template, your own game etc? Been following on and off for quite a while now and love your vibe and videos. Makes 30mins feel like 5 :)

[@corriedotdev]

Very cool work! I wrote a whole chapter in my thesis about physics based interaction and low key the future. Awesome to see good work in this direction! So cool

[@ZeditYT]

Wow this is awesome! What are you planning to do with this when it’s done? Are you gonna make a game with it, make it open source, etc. I would love to try this system in the future. ❤

[@maybenotross5772]

That has to be the one of the best swimming systems I've ever seen, other than the transition when jumping in it looked perfect.

[@dallenpowell2745]

This is really awesome! You're approaching VR procedural physics in the best way possible! Bone Works/Lab and Half Life Alyx are the best I've seen and you're right up there with them pushing the boundaries of what's possible and comfortable in VR. In my opinion it's worth considering hip tracking not for direct positional tracking or visual aesthetic but for rotational tracking of the legs and lower body motion. It would open up the ability to move your head independent of your body while moving in the direction of your hip orientation. It's more natural for gameplay to be able to look in one direction while moving in a different direction while still having total control of your hands. Awesome work and always! I look forward to seeing where else you go with this! What's next? Changes in gravity? Scale? Super Strength? I'm here for it.

[@Circled123]

Wow. Just wow. This is the first video I've seen of this and it's brilliant. I don't usually to subscribe to someone after only one video but i had to make an exception. I love how you can actually lean over objects, that's always annoyed me in games such as B&S. Can't wait to see more

[@meow7985]

you seem like the saviour of vr, no shortcuts doing it for real. all the hip stuff and IK looks amazing, ii wonder if it would be possible to implement jumping off walls realistically rather than the stuck to the wall other games do, like actually make the legs push off and get a realistic force off of it. i just love deterministic stuff, very cool! cant wait to play some day

[@z7gu3]

this is absolutely amazing, I really hope this becomes a fully fledged game some day. this looks like a huge step for vr games.

[@BudderyShloofy]

Hey! I was wondering if there was any plans on letting us use this system to make stuff with when it’s done as well? I think this is probably already the best vr system and think it would be cool if it could be used by other developers as well!

[@ltriggerlhappyl]

I've been watching you a while now on my personal channel. I've seen some of your older videos. It's been great to see how much progress you've made. Keep it up! 👽

[@rallemanlarsson1533]

I've been following your channel since 2016 and you have always inspired me to create my own VR game. You are awesome

[@grimm6480]

It’s awesome how you walk under the water when you’re holding the heavy ball but you swim when you’re not weighed down

[@NimsoStudios]

You walk when there is ground under you. The walk and swim systems both run at the same time.

[@trashtrash2169]

When will you take center of mass and balance into consideration? That'd probably make your generated poses and movements look more accurate.

[@ijaydubb]

This is incredible! Thanks for sharing this!

[@sids3194]

This is soo rad!! As a fellow AR/VR developer, this really gets me excited for the future. This is so far beyond whatever physics based VR games i have seen until now.

[@santyar4037]

Thank you. Genious explanation. Will have stand alone quest version?

[@NimsoStudios]

Yes, PC and Quest currently for the tech demo I'm working on.

[@leisaforeman9272]

I really like the model that you use for the for the leg movement, I just like blank characters that look like that

[@redj_fr]

This leg system is actually really impressive. The swimming and crawling, too, it's not something you see in most physics based VR games. Especially in Bonelab or Boneworks, where those games also have the same problem with one foot always being on the ground, even when running. The years of development really pays of. Cheers :)

[@vp_bot]

these videos are so amazing. somehow this dude just does some magic and all of them work super good.

[@tacosauce935]

You have some talent man. I wish this was open to the public to screw around with. I cant wait to see what is in the future for you

[@t4w]

Fr I am so happy to see someone like you, that take physical interaction that seriously in vr ❤

[@margarinedolby]

this is highly impressive and I can't wait to try it, it even kinda gave a game idea

[@Jack_Wolfe]

1:45 if you apply joint restraints for the legs it should stop them crossing, but also make it choose the leg closest to the movement direction as the first foot

[@kronicali24]

ive been following your work for a long time, you are doing a great job. I dont know why some people can just hate on something for no reason.

[@lanata64]

if only someone made a library for this so it is implementable for people who don't have 10 years of experience writing VR physics systems

[@Pockeywn]

jumping into the water looks a little odd because when you jump into water in real life you’re usually planning on landing in water before you even jump. in this case though you don’t know where the player wants to be until they’re there. the best solution i could think of is to, when in air, check the distance and material of the ground below the player, and then whenever the player is above a barrier between two surfaces, shift the player as if they’re aiming for one of them. i think the best way to choose a surface is whichever would “hurt” the least (maybe prioritise the closest landing point up until a certain distance and then choose the “softer” material (water)) youre the one who designs procedural movement though so i’m sure you could think of a more clever, generalised way to fix the diving problem

[@radnel313]

This is absolutely amazing and deserves way more attention

[@k0lpA]

incredible stuff as always !

[@Ryles_]

This is incredibly impressive, keep up the amazing work!

[@kronozytv9265]

Bro you are the best guy of VR making that I have ever seen. Don’t listen to bad comments, what you are doing is admirable

[@BFG2001]

I don't even know tech stuff I just like how this guy talks and presents.

[@castin5244]

You're right about your entire arm moving when swinging around heavy objects. but I think the problem with that in VR is there is a momentary disconnect between where your real arm is and where your virtual arm is. which can be very uncomfortable for people. I think ideally for the best comfort and most immersive feeling, your virtual arm should be a perfect 1:1 with your real arm, even if its not exactly realistic to how your body would behave when moving around heavy objects. And I believe that's exactly why VR developers opt to make the object itself have inertia but NOT your arms.

[@WazaxeUltimate]

This project keeps looking better and better 🎉

[@ScareFire]

I can’t wait to try out the demo !

[@Totorus]

Amazing!

[@TherealoneKevinSpacey]

It's nice to see big bro happy

[@speedracer123222]

You should add grip strength. It would add a bit of realism when grabbing stuff. Like with the sledgehammer, your upper hand normally would slide down the bar. Or if you climb a certain way you would slide off. Gives more weight realism.

[@absence9443]

Please attempt to partner with an engine studio to let this be incorporated, this project is such a jewel for VR game creation, it'd be wonderful to see it as an addition to a large environment :)

[@VRnamek]

that active ragdoll physics video is why I became subscriber

[@Brick_Soup]

The swimming might be the most interesting thing to me. Cool stuff!

[@DrTheRich]

It looks amazing!! Just the hips looks a little stiff, like the upper body looks too vertical when moving, i wonder if you can have them lag a bit behind the movement or something doe have a bit directionality to the body leaning when moving? Probably very hard to make look natural... Or maybe before moving the leg, first only the shoulders would move, so with small movements the hips stay in place, and then when you walk they lag a bit behind, having them lean... That would also get rid of the micro movements with the legs when you're just standing still.

[@Neeek_]

the swimming is very impressive, I really love the focus on making the system as intuitive as possible with minimal jank. I lost hope of that being possible with a fully physics based system when I played boneworks and bonelab. Not to say those games do it terribly at all. They put vr physics in the forefront, but their jank really shows when playing for a long time.

[@cheetoboa]

are you going to eventually make a game or turn project tx into a full game? because this is actual fire

[@p4rzy123]

Thats so fucking amazing bro. I love your work

[@josiahcabral7832]

The swimming made me grin ear to ear❤

[@sluxi]

nimso(ny?) videos are always a great journey to seeing what's physically possible at the cutting edge of current consumer hardware

[@pigeon4422]

dude these videos are way too fun to watch

[@EqualToBen]

Damn that run looks really good!