Ninja 1000 / Z1000 Clutch problems fixed!! I had to drill holes in my clutch basket!!

[@alip6189]

Wow....great job....I used to drill house clutch like you have done on my repair shop. Even for 110cc-250cc engine work very well.

[@Wrenchie]

Really? So this is n't isolated to just the Ninja? I was told that this is a very uncommon problem and that my solution was extreme. It did solve the problem so there is that. What kind of repair shop do you have? Where are you located? I see you have a bunch of videos. well done!

[@alip6189]

I am living in Jakarta, Indonesia...I work as mechanic motorcycles and mostly people here use motorcycles daily. Drilling holes on clutch house help clutch working great especially when traffic jam. Mostly mechanic here do like what you done even for new motorcycles yamaha,honda And klx.

[@racecraft724]

My z1000 has 6k miles and has the the rattling clutch problem when disengaged. Thanks for the video as this is on my list. We have the same motor.

[@cyberkiller83]

Hey man. Amazing job. I love people like you, i love when you do all your stuff, and even mod stuff, i have a Yamaha FZ6 and i do a lot of things to it too. In fact i have a autoclutch (No clutch),. a Zero Throttle, etc... Love to do things by myself too. I was impressed on your earing detail. Just to be able to hear the rattling of the steels in a 4 cylinder big bore bike with Gazilions parts making noise... you are amazing jajajajaja Nice Job. Greetings from Colombia

[@gtrs4ever]

Great information and video. Hate taking on and off fairings that's why I decided to get a naked bike.

[@symtd8969]

Great videos.. I made a playlist for my reference.. 2014 Sx owner here

[@anthonypeterson5618]

Thx for fix and music intro. Hav a 93 zx1100c. I may hav that clutch issue. A drill press in a jig will work better. Next yr project for me.

[@matthewmorrone883]

I had clutch slippage on my 07 Z1000 and replaced the clutch cable, friction plates with EBC street/race clutch and reused the metal plates.... replaced the springs with EBC 15% stiffer springs. Never had an issue with it again and it pulls the front tire up at highway speeds if wanted. Have never heard of drilling the clutch basket in my entire life for disengagement issues.

[@Wrenchie]

Nice. I’m guessing the springs and plates made a big difference. I really couldn’t complain TOO much. That clutch had what was it 80,000 miles. I’d love to see what your clutch fix feels like.

[@New_Wrench]

Great video. Extremely important. I appreciate the briefing on what you did before speeding up the video. It was sped up in the right sections after explaining what you intended to do. Thank you sir for the info! #subscribed

[@IrnMaiden304]

You could have used some old clutch and friction plates, bolts and make a handle ..... And you'd have that same tool you got from EBC

[@bongdal]

Nice to meet you. This is the 2013 z1000sx owner who is interested in watching your videos in Korea. I am very curious about the actual effect of drilling a hole in the clutch hub to penetrate the oil.

[@comfysofa1549]

Just to say i did this a few years back but, its not a patch on retro fitting the newer slipper clutch....bolts straight in...

[@Wrenchie]

Not patch?? I don't follow. Did the fix work for you?

[@comfysofa1549]

@@Wrenchie Not a patch.....as in nowhere near as good!....the upgraded slipper clutch from the newer engines retro fits straight in...the clutch is lighter and there is no grab whatsoever...

[@Wrenchie]

Comfy Sofa when did they upgrade? This mod was on the 2011. I also have the 2016.

[@comfysofa1549]

@@Wrenchie Well, ive got the 2014 Z1000 so mine is the same as your 2011 version but your 2016 has the newer slipper clutch (which ive fitted) so im literally sitting right inbetween (from your point of view)

[@Wrenchie]

Comfy Sofa Thanks for the info. I’m gonna look into the clutch change from kawi. Wasn’t aware they changed it. It does feel totally different on the 2016.

[@aolegario1]

Sounds like it may be the clutch basket dampers causing vibration

[@AJ-nf6gf]

Removing anti judder springs makes all Z1000 clutch issues goes away. Tried that too, not much better with holes. It likes dry

[@Wrenchie]

Are you running the bike with NO antijitter spring? Not sure that's a good idea....

[@ronnysthus7749]

Great video! think I might try this on my 2005 z1000 I baught yesterday

[@Wrenchie]

Thanks Ronny. I did it as a last resort. Hope you don’t have the same issue but if you do , it worked for me.

[@yeungchai882]

Very good to know you solved the clutch problem! Did you drain the oil before remove the clutch cover?

[@Wrenchie]

Hi Yeung, No. This time I did not drain the oil. It's only got about 1500 miles on the Amsoil synthetic. I left it on the side stand and since the side stand is on the other side of the bike from the clutch cover, no oil spilled out. Good tip to know. If I had it on the rear swing arm spool stand, I would have needed to drain the oil. What are you riding?

[@yeungchai882]

Wrenchie Thank you for your reply. I’m riding 2014 Z1000 and I also experience the disengaging problem. When I squeeze the clutch lever and the clutch doesn’t disengage immediately. And I’m difficult to shift the gear. I’m planning to do the same modification as you and replace the anti jitter ring as well.

[@Wrenchie]

@@yeungchai882 Good luck!! It's actualy not as bad as I thought. That clutch basket nut is a bitch to get off .... unless you have a beast of an impact driver!

[@Wrenchie]

@@yeungchai882 Good luck!!

[@Vasetousa]

You did not put the last clutch disk off by one tooth as the service manual states, did not even mention it!

[@Wrenchie]

Well actually I did. It’s impossible to put it on without indexing it. If you’ve performed the work you know, right. I did not show it as I did explain it clearly in the previous vid on clutch job

[@sandozman6085]

I’m sorry here, but i here all the time how ppl cant use air impacts to remove these nuts on the sprocket and clutches on bikes.... I have used air impacts for decades on everything from backhoes to 1 ton trucks to my 69 charger drag car. I have to ask.... are you guys adjusting the regulators high enough? Do you only have very low capacity compressors? Because there is nothing on a motorcycle that a half inch impact shouldn’t be able to deal with. Other than that great job, on the vids.

[@jonchaitt7991]

You would think that the air impact would be just fine, right? Me too! The culprit may be that it was a cheap (very cheap) Harbor Freight special rated around 50-60 ft lbs or torque. That nut is 125 ft ld torque spec. I could be wrong but I think that was the issue. If so, you get what you pay for. Then again, its probably me! Thanks for the comment!

[@frenchenstein]

Good job👍🏽

[@hammboneclan4405]

Does it only matter how the steels go in I have a 2017 z900 redoing my clutch

[@gsfdriller]

Well done. Love your videos. Excellent.

[@Wrenchie]

Hey Mike... Thanks, I appreciate it. What are you ridin'?

[@gsfdriller]

@@Wrenchie I'm riding a green, 2014, Z1000sx T. around Andalusia, Southern Spain from new. Doesn't get any better for me. Now done 30k kms. Only problem I've had is wearing out my tyres. On the Bridgestone S20s I got 4000 miles. Last 2 changes were Metzeler Roadtec 1. I got 4900 miles on the 1st set. They're not quite so sticky but easily outperform me. Stay safe and keep up the good work Wrenchie !

[@Wrenchie]

@@gsfdriller Are you looking for more mileage or rain traction? Or just some good stickiness? If mileage, wet and dry traction (not as good a like a Q3 or something) I swear by the Michelin pilot 4 or 5s. I get about 9,000 miles about 15,000 kms. Pretty good. I ride about two sets of these per year.

[@Wrenchie]

BTW - Southern Spain! Yeah, sounds fantastic!!

[@gsfdriller]

@@Wrenchie That's good mileage. I was looking for a good balance. I would say I'm pretty satisfied with the Metzelers to be honest. I got mates who have used the Michelin Pilots and they did get a bit more mileage but changed to Metzeler 01. I'm not bothered about rain, its pretty rare here and when it does I don't go out. I love this bike.

[@Huanghow]

Hi, I got the problem with change gear. I feel the clutch delay 0.5 sec when change gear... Does drill holes can fix this problem? Thanks for your reply.

[@Wrenchie]

Hi Alan, I can't be certain. Are you certain the clutch is not slipping? Symptom would be when you accelerate hard the RPM's spin up but the bike isn't fully "hooked up" and accelerating. If that is your symptom, that sounds like you just need a new clutch (friction plates). If that's not it, and you feel the clutch is not disengaging, check the simple stuff first: You have enough oil in the bike, clutch cable is properly adjusted, clutch arm on the case is moving all the way through the stroke, etc. After that, its time to take the thing apart, examine clutch friction plates, probably replace the springs. Also, inspect the clutch basket for burs in the rib channels. Any burs there could prevent the plates from moving properly which could cause the clutch to hang, not disengage properly. You could try lightly sanding the grooves to remove the burs... use a fine sandpaper like 600 or 800 grit. If the clutch is still hanging, not disengaging, maybe, just maybe drilling the holes will solve the problem. If you are going to do that, you might as well replace the friction plates if they look worn. Good luck!!

[@Huanghow]

Hi Wrenchie, I will check every part that you say. Thank you so much!🙂

[@jonchaitt7991]

@@Huanghow Also, if you sand the grooves on the clutch basket (see my video) best to remove basket so you don't get metal shavings in the engine case.

[@Huanghow]

@@jonchaitt7991 ok,thanks!

[@porculetz]

Hello Wrenchie, can you point me to the manual you used ? I have a Z1000. Thanks !

[@Wrenchie]

What year? Ninja 1000. I have a PDF of the 2012 service manual for the 2012 and a hard copy shop manual for the 2016

[@sethousley473]

Did this fix your issues?

[@mrconta]

do you know what torque/nm the headers are spec to? I bought sx 2014 do i also need to do this mod?

[@Wrenchie]

headers? Exhaust headers?

[@mrconta]

@@Wrenchie hehe yes. i found it 34nm for exhaust headers. but Do all SX need to do this mod for clutch? i didnt notice any problem yet with my 2014

[@Wrenchie]

@@mrconta I think not. I hear its "unusual" but not unheard of. I had a problem and tried a few things to fix it and nothing worked until this mod. I'm still riding on it and zero issues since the mod. I'm no expert but if you are having clutch issues, check with a qualified mechanic, discuss the possible causes, and option to emedy. Bring this up if they don't and see what they think. All IO can say is that it worked for my issue

[@Explore-Gobal]

20:54 Don't the pins hold the gasket in place?

[@Wrenchie]

Meh.... sort of. A dap of the sealant that's called out holds the gasket on just fine