Nintendo Finally Sues Palworld & Sony Announces New PS5 Pro System | News Wave

[@reiswindy]

The world of patents is wild. At one point Capcom sued Koei Tecmo for infringing a patent about a controller vibrating when an enemy is near.

[@faceurhell]

Too bad Koei does not have a patent for remaking a game twice, because otherwise, Capcom would be screwed in ten years.

[@Tavicx]

It’s petty pathetic behavior

[@ॐIo]

And at one point Nintendo stole all of its base Pokemon concepts from DQ3

[@destynova4512]

Shit isn't Atari or Namco the reason most games don't have mini games during the loading screens? Remember a company patented that so why it's not common place.

[@immu8980]

FYI there are patent from Ocarion of Time.... Any idea why Nintendo has nevered used them to sue anyone??? They can't sue against copyign design as it fall under "Fan work" (They already had a case against Fan works which they lost, if you wondering what fan works it is Rule 34) - so Nintendo has no choice to use Patent to Sue Pocket pair (They took 8 months to investigate to find the best way to deal with this obivous theft)

[@bowserchu]

Worth noting, Nintendo going after patent infringement means they likely had nothing to go on for copyright infringement.

[@Planag7]

Yeah there are three videos I saw that completely bypassed that and don't seem to understand the difference between copyright and patents.

[@trinity31409]

This is true. It should also be noted that big corporations like Nintendo do not start fights they do not expect to win. They took most of a year to collect info and evidence. They have won every lawsuit I can recall.

[@alexgarnica8498]

​@@trinity31409 Nintendo isn't invencible, they have lost cases. Nintendo vs Galoob, Nintendo vs rule34 of pokemon(ngl, that is embarrassing, to lose against furries) and I'm certain that there are others. No one knows the future outcome.

[@viviorko]

@@alexgarnica8498they aren’t invincible either but they got an incredible track record

[@thewiseoldfox]

​@@trinity31409you're half-right, but that's just the basics of big business lawsuits. The Pokémon Company likely sent their lawyers right away and lawyers usually take a long time to do anything because they want to be extremely thorough. But not always is the point to win the lawsuit, sometimes it's to send the competition a message and it waste their time and resources.

[@nickprovence]

No 30th anniversary plates for the original PS5 is a shame. Not buying their digital only consoles.

[@cbgg1585]

Lmao, with or without you, I think they will survive. Remember all the fake outrage surrounding the PS3 price? Yeah? Well, the PS3 still became the fastest selling console in the UK. No amount of protest or boycotts will change a thing. There is a world outside of the internet.

[@thedude8128]

Oh no! You won't buy it! I bet your 4 friends won't buy it either! Omg! Sony is bankrupt! 😱

[@rockothetaco95]

What’s with the shills in this comment? I agree man, why can’t they just release the plates. Maybe I’ll spray my original plates to PS1 grey 😂

[@CoolCaseyJ]

@@rockothetaco95fr I like Sony too but Jesus Christ yall simping for a corp because dude said he wanted plates for his console.. it’s not that serious

[@nickprovence]

​@rockothetaco95 right? I already have a PS5 system and 3 duelsense controllers and a portal. Nothing announced in the collection catered to me so they won't get any money from me when they would if they just release simple plates. I know the company isn't going to magicly shut down because I'm not purchasing something here but it's a shame I can't celebrate the 30th anniversary when I've been a long time Playstation fan since the beginning.

[@kahp1072]

I find it funny how people are completely ignoring the huge amount of monster catching/training games on Nintendo console through the years, just so they run wild with their bs narrative. Nobody knows what the patent is about, it's just speculation.

[@cbgg1585]

Admittedly I am a Nintendo investor, but also speaking from a legal perspective/experience, until you know all the facts and legal intricacies, how could you definitively conclude this entire case is BS? With decent knowledge surrounding Japanese law, until they make their first court appearance, they aren’t compelled to fully and publicly release the reasonings behind why they are bringing forward a case.

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

You know why Nintendo left temtem and the many pokeclones out there? Despite have more mechanics similar to Pokemon? Because at least they do have far original monster designs that Sugimori will never do. I betcha Ken and his design team are so furios of this that Nintendo may have said "We might not be able to sue you for copying our designs but we can sue you for all things you never account. We have more than the many patent you never knew we had"

[@Droogie128]

​@@inamorta47-playertwistthis isn't about designs. It's a patent claim. Things like mounts and throwing items. Really vague. It's a BS lawsuit trying to bully them into a settlement

[@Droogie128]

@@inamorta47-playertwist basically, the patents they're claiming apply to a huge range of games, including World of Warcraft. It's also a retroactive claim, which won't fly in the US, but will in Japan. Let them try to sue Blizzard and see what happens. This is nothing more than a big corporation bullying an indie dev.

[@chriscofer6780]

​@@cbgg1585Ok nintendo ninja no one cares

[@youraveragedillon5958]

The original ps5 isn't getting any plates. No love for us day 1 buyers

[@MyManJFKTV]

Gotta love the fact that early adopters are treated the worst in the gaming industry. Worst versions of games, least amount of support for hardware, pays the most, so on and so on.

[@youraveragedillon5958]

@@MyManJFKTV exactly

[@cbgg1585]

⁠@@MyManJFKTVGaming corporations has yielded me the perk of becoming debt free (Nvidia my golden goose I got in extremely early in 2015-16). I can live with “treated the worst” as long as I still get paid. Perks of being an investor and a gamer. Win-win scenarios over the last 12-13 years in the investing space.

[@ToddMa09]

I've got DBrand plates on mine. I personally like the more slimmed down shape of them and they've had retro gray color ones available for years.

[@AlastorShadow0]

​@@MyManJFKTVkinda seems more like a recent trend, but people still buy early so who's more at fault here the companies, and their horrible practices, or consumers, and their stupid buying habits?

[@Vyse195]

Can't wait for people to talk about Nintendo versus Palworld for about a week and then no one will talk about it again.

[@Sir_Psych]

Same as when Palworld came out. I knew people weren't going to care about the game that much. It has some cool ideas but it felt like a Roblox game with a better style.

[@hododod246]

I hope that would be the case omg.

[@patrickatilano2014]

Well, people have lives you know.

[@theominousanne]

Exactly.

[@bradblackmore2627]

you can say that about almost everything.👍👍

[@charlesedwinbooks]

It's insane to me that it's legal to put a patent on a gameplay mechanic as broad as Player using creature capture device while moving in field.

[@Lucarioguild7]

It's actually not that broad IGN put out an article about the patent earlier and the infographic for the mechanic specifically shows an orb with a button as the creature capture device so basically if Palworld was even slightly original they probably could have dodged this suit.

[@mrrowwmeoww]

i would recommend watching thomas game docs' video on the nintendo colopl lawsuit basically since the 80s japanese game devs have patented very basic features to prevent patent trolling from companies outside the games industry. for example, snk had patented the title screen. these were never enforced. they've had this unofficial code of honour to not abuse patents like this. nintendo keeps up this tradition to this day. the only time in recent memory nintendo has pursued patent infringement was in said colopl lawsuit, where the company was going after other companies with patent lawsuits. it turned out nintendo had filed a patent over a decade prior that was the same thing they were suing other companies for, so they sued colopl for patent infringement. obviously nintendo makes dumb lawsuits, and i dont like their attitude in regards to fan games and rom sites. but i also dont like pocketpair's history of blatantly ripping off other games. not even just with palworld (although it's pretty obvious with palworld), they've made other games that rip off games like breath of the wild, minecraft, hollow knight, dead cells and among us.

[@darryljack6612]

​​@@Lucarioguild7 The infographic shows an orb. But if you read the patent it doesn't specify an orb. It just states an item. Which means even if PocketPair changed it from a sphere to a cube, Nintendo can still claim ownership.

[@Lucarioguild7]

@@darryljack6612 I'm not super well versed in patent law but I'm like 90% sure the infographic is apart of the patent

[@darryljack6612]

@@Lucarioguild7 No, the infographic is displaying the broad nature of the patent in a visual medium. But the Actual wording itself (which is the patent) doesn't state anything about just an orb. It only (and purposely) uses the word object.

[@hgmd3284]

funny how the 30th anneversery PS5 is calling back to a console that introdused disc based gaming, on a console that doesnt have it.

[@Planag7]

It does come with a cover for the disc drive at least so when you do get a disc drive again pop it over but still it really sucks that they don't have one for the OG PS5

[@LDJ89]

Did the Sega-CD not come out in 1991?

[@GM-Shenmue]

@@Planag7 doesn't matter it should come with the disc drive already...specially for the stupid premium price you already have to pay for it.

[@VitalVampyr]

CD-i was the first optical disc based console, or if you count optional attachments it was TurboGrafx-16 with CD-ROM². Sega CD and 3DO also released before the PlayStation.

[@KingKarimYT]

Yeah they are the worst. Should have come with a memory card instead of an SSD too lol.

[@dominickferguson7412]

Wish we could have gotten PS5 OG 30th anniversary plates.

[@mrmiyagi8433]

Same.

[@Planag7]

Absolutely I'm thinking there might be some on the knockoff market so maybe? How do I take a white sugar Saturn cover with a little Segata on the corner

[@grizzlyadams1929]

The fact that Playstation isn't releasing just the shells for current PS5 owners is criminal. Even if the shells were marked up due to the 30th Anniversary it'd be a much easier pill to swallow.

[@stygy9929]

but… that would beat the purpose of the limited edition consoles themselves no?

[@SilverSurfer17]

Yeah they suck for that

[@Kubush1]

The most anti-consumer company in the history of gaming. They make EA and Activision look good.

[@G360LIVE]

@@stygy9929 Not necessarily. If the shells don't have "Limited Edition" etched on them, then the limited edition consoles are still limited.

[@nayyarrashid4661]

The hardest pill to swallow will be the scalpers and bots. Hopefully I can get one.

[@MedalionDS9]

It's pretty bad that to salvage the PS5 Pro reveal disaster, all it takes is essentially retro plates and a retro themed PS dualsense... really? That meme image chart of the ups and downs of Playstation is getting crowded.

[@MyManJFKTV]

It’s crazy that those ups and downs happened all within less than two weeks haha.

[@neonsheep3358]

​@@MyManJFKTV They didn't salvage anything.

[@kahp1072]

A retro theme PS5 slim/PS5 Pro Console without a disk drive, when the PS1 was the first console with one. Talk about irony.

[@bradblackmore2627]

its crazy how many haters a company has.

[@vincevirtua]

Nowhere near a disaster. People who want the Pro will buy the Pro, same as before the reveal.

[@vincentvega3093]

This Limited Edition PS5 Pro bundle will be like 1299€ 😮

[@gatonegroloco]

Also small detail, the Pokémon lawsuit is in JAPAN not the US. Shits not gonna be how we think

[@johansvensson833]

but if palworld lose in japan they will pull the game from alls stores and you can bet nintendo has the sam patent i all regions

[@alexdelareta]

@@johansvensson833No, that’s no the case, if they lose they’ll pay Nintendo a compensation and then they’ll settle continue distributing the game but now paying royalties to Nintendo for the patents, or they can modify the mechanics that infringe patents too. I don’t see them pulling the game or delisting it.

[@ॐIo]

It's ludicrous.

[@pepinowhite5014]

Finally, someone that doesn’t pretend they know foreign legal systems

[@randydrew66]

Yeah unfortunately Japan is very corrupt, hopefully Biden is willing to use Sanctions against Nintendo to force them to stop harming Americans

[@frozenninja4030]

Days Gone was fantastic! I played through it on a launch PS4 with the jet engine going full blast and the framerate chugging anytime I was on the bike and it was STILL worth playing through. I would totally pick up a remastered version and throw down again on PS5 just to show the game some more love.

[@jakesteel2423]

They should be making way more of those PS5 consoles. Making only 12300 is just obnoxious. May was well just put scalpers on the payroll.

[@G360LIVE]

Maybe the scalpers already are on the payroll. Companies have bots posting as if they're real people on social media. Why not have your own scalpers "buy" their consoles and resell them for twice the price?

[@jdmahle]

Nintendo just needs to make a good pokemon game

[@stroose]

They haven’t done that in nearly a decade. I gave up on the series

[@modermonkula]

Didn't Game freak make the Pokémon games?

[@tempestnova6715]

@@modermonkula Nintendo owns the copyright, so it's still Nintendo. They could tell the Pokemon company to slow down, and Game Freak to put more resources into the games but they don't.

[@modermonkula]

@@tempestnova6715 Strange since they have almost unlimited money to make a fantastic Pokémon game, yet the last few just feel so half assed and basic. The ip is trapped with a development team with as much creativity as a fifa game

[@dannyharrell4818]

​@@tempestnova6715Nintendo can't tell Game freak or TPC shit about how to run the Pokemon IP, they only own 33.33% of the IP and guess who owns the other 2 thirds? You have three guesses and the first two don't count.

[@azazeln]

We want to celebrate Playstation, it's just that they don't give us enough reasons to celebrate nowadays.

[@ramirohuerta8851]

How? I love my Playstation now more than 30 years ago

[@azazeln]

@@ramirohuerta8851 The last 5 years are underwhelming, to say the least. It looks like they're ignoring their core base

[@ramirohuerta8851]

@@azazeln how? We got some grest games. GoW returnal, Spiderman astro bot?

[@WorkzGarage]

Days Gone has a strong fan base. Not sure now large the fan base is. They are upset that there is no sequel.

[@dawsonfrayn6342]

Aw man I love Days Gone. Probably my favourite single plater zombie game of the modern era. Story was great!

[@thomaspickering2344]

Days gone was so incredibly underrated.

[@thewatermelonpigeon2716]

The new dragon age is just another dustborn, Star Wars the acolyte and concord situation

[@Yonfyvargas8938]

Don't be so generous saying Concord had a dozen fans

[@Mii.2.0]

Now let's see Nintendo sue -Rule 34-

[@spartanq7781]

Laughs in degeneracy.

[@MyManJFKTV]

Rule 34 has the best lawyers known to man. Rule 34 never loses. Rule 34 is inevitable…and Iron Man.

[@Tom-yz3op]

I believe that Nintendo sued NSFW fanart in the past.

[@jrtalkin5558]

@@Tom-yz3opyes they did, I think in one instance it had to do with the botw c&d wave they had a while. back. And a game that had a similar name to one of their older titles.

[@viviorko]

Rule 34 is known for settling and having records sealed.

[@mrbisshie]

Why would anyone feel bad about the CEO stepping down and losing his job? He fucking made Concord. lmao

[@G360LIVE]

People put feelings over personal responsibility these days. That's why things are so messed up now. You know, like how companies have to hire the blue-haired activists instead of the creative people because they don't want the activists to feel bad that they can't get the job based on talent.

[@Vulpas]

​@@G360LIVEYep, perfectly said.

[@joshuajcastro]

Honestly, I want that damn charging cable.

[@garrett7252]

What I dont understand is why are they going after palworld when there are multiple monster taming games on the switch like coromon and nexomon who both are getting new games soon. They both have same mechanics like encounter a creature and catching them in devices.

[@bloodstone1992]

Congratulations, Nintendo, you just lost all credibility suing pal world thinking you have the exclusive rights to monster catching/ fighting games.. ridiculous

[@XxZannexX]

Really interested to see how Nintendo vs PocketPair shakes out. Considering it’s a patent infringement and not copyright. Also it being in Japan makes for a unique situation. I don’t have a dog in this. Just interested to see how Japanese law works

[@Theonetruewonderfly]

Somebody is going to have to find a way around that "Nemesis system" patent. WB shouldn't be the only company able to use the concept of "you get to shape the villain of the story".

[@DS9TREK]

When did they patent it? In the USA they expire after 20 years

[@UndeadCollector]

PS5 Limited Edition announced and ppl already forgot how expensive the Pro is...

[@184Dadada]

Because the price isn't a real world problem. It was just something for people to complain about for a week. Anyone actually interested in getting it aren't going to cry over the price.

[@CarlosXPhone]

​@@184DadadaI dunno chief. A lot of people ARE crying over price. Look around. Outside of this channel.

[@DubsBrown]

The ps5 pro bundle included a DualSense and DualSense Edge so it’s going to be at least $1k

[@kennypowers1945]

@@CarlosXPhoneonly online tho. In real life you will find the opinion is usually different. Just like here on KZbin most seem to believe everyone wants a disc drive which is NOT true. Only 10% of gamers or less use disc

[@CarlosXPhone]

@@kennypowers1945 I'm one of those who like disc systems, but I dabble into buying games online for less than $30 MSRP. Anything beyond that? Physical. Its way too much money to pay $60 online, with no recourse - they did it to MvC2. $70 online is major YIKES.

[@dannyboots]

Pokemon, just like Harvest Moon, has been degrading in quality with each game. Stardew valley & Palworld capitalized heavy on this and deserve every bit of success

[@Zaenyxa]

Pih is Like a Dragon: Pirates in Hawaii Rah is Rent A Hero Z So I guess the bird got demoted to sega leaker lol

[@Bobo12300]

That’s quite a stretch comparison isn’t it?

[@Zaenyxa]

@Bobo12300 yes it is but that's what Pyoro(?) said

[@adamhoffoss5768]

Days Gone was one of my absolute favorite games! Unfortunately, the story was a bit lacking, but I'd be all in for a remaster of that one.

[@juiceala]

Something's wrong with that Dragon Ball game... why are there so many characters attached to the game instead of selling them individually as micro dlc? Is this 2003?

[@galacticmaui2]

Haha they got you covered with Super 17 and OG DB characters😂

[@mariocalderon6201]

I like how you got the important stuff out of the way first today

[@PlazDreamweaver]

Same.

[@KoolStuff13]

I used to love Nintendo… then I got tired them abusing corporate power, money, and a faulty legal system to exercise their communist values, I mean Nintendo didn’t get sued for stealing Dragon Quest’s ideas 🤔

[@HoboWithAShotgun]

You don't understand what this case even is lol

[@stroose]

@@HoboWithAShotgun a massive corporation bullying a small indie dev because they made a successful game that has catchable monsters in it.

[@HoboWithAShotgun]

@@stroose yes the case is about legal bullying lol

[@jr2904]

​@@stroose leave it to the lawyers

[@jr2904]

Communist values? It sounds like you have communist values

[@meatloph]

I’m not falling for that PS 5 pro thirst trap, not today Diddy!

[@CasualPooper]

It sounds like Nintendo waited for Pal World to make a lot of money before pursuing them.

[@matthewferguson6524]

Probably finally had it over free updates and refusal to do p2p making them look bad.

[@CasualPooper]

@@matthewferguson6524 😂

[@MyManJFKTV]

19:32 - You forgot to overlay the photo of the box for the DualSense.

[@fabioalvesshow]

I'm tired of the Dragon Ball games telling the sayan, freeza, android, cell and buu saga another time, but i think in this game we will not have this so is a good thing

[@galacticmaui2]

They have story mode but there is also what ifs and plenty of other modes if not your jam.

[@matthewferguson6524]

Next, nintendo will sue all companies with electrical devices for using 'device powering' similar to them 🙄

[@jr2904]

I guess you forgot about the Wii mote lawsuits that Nintendo defended against. You people act like it's only Nintendo that patents things

[@optimusj55]

I really liked Days Gone. It wasn't perfect but it had potential. The game was much larger than initial anticipated but it never over stayed it welcome. I fatigued easily with open world games but Days Gone kept sinking it's hooks in deeper and deeper. By the end I was very excited for a sequel. I still hope Sony changes their mind and it becomes a cult classic. Time will tell. # Praise Days Gone

[@Lock2002ful]

completely ridiculous that you could patent that

[@crystalwater505]

Indeed. Patent laws need to be re-written. Game mechanics should never ever be able to be patented because it's a huge slippery slope.

[@jr2904]

​@@crystalwater505 it's been 40 years, when do we fall off the slope? Seems like we've been fine lol

[@crystalwater505]

@@jr2904 You can potentially patent any mechanic, like having a character use a sword to kill things. What if that were patented? That would be pretty bad since other devs couldn't have swords as weapons anymore, or perhaps a game where you can patent using any weapon to kill monsters. That'd mean only that company could make games that way. That's pretty slippery to me friend.

[@brandon_nope]

you forgot to put the pictures of the boxes for the 30th aanniversary collection

[@galacticmaui2]

Sparking Zero looks sooo good!

[@psyduck8025]

Palworld knew what they were doing from the beginning

[@QuantumNova]

Yes. Nintendo already knew too. 5D chess game.

[@dasolver2218]

Once again the best way to start the day and end the work week….Spawn Wave gaming news …this weekend WH 40K Space Marine 2!!

[@Happy_Hand]

Agreed, I watch while getting my cardio in, makes my bike rides fly!

[@110341]

I liked Days Gone much more than I thought I would!

[@LainK1978]

Spawnwave is just flat out wrong on the law. Nintendo can 100% have obtained a patent in 2021 and enforce it on PalWorld. First off, the development for PowerWorld was announced in 2021. Nothing in that implies or hints at game mechanics. They did not have any patents. Meanwhile, Nintendo's patent was for a game that came out in 2021. On a side note, it makes perfect sense that Nintendo only recently filed suit. This is because the game only recently was actually released. Before now, it was still in beta and could have been changed to work differently.

[@xcvbnhjkl]

Days gone was actually pretty fun if they do make a remake I might be interested

[@SamuraiMerrick]

Imagine if I patented manufacturing a ball for use in games by children. No one would be allowed to make balls but me.

[@jr2904]

Yeah, that's how patents work if you get there first

[@DS9TREK]

But only for 20 years. Once expired they can't be renewed

[@SamuraiMerrick]

@@jr2904 patents aren’t supposed to be able to patent anything and everything. It has to be novel, have utility, be non-obvious, and establish enablement. So none of those are met by saying I can throw a ball at a monster and catch it in a video game.

[@lamario]

Monster Rancher has entered the chat and is glaring at Nintendo.

[@MyManJFKTV]

Although I’m still debatin’ whether or not I want to buy the PS5 Pro [mostly ‘cause I’d like for my son to have his own and I’ll give him my current PS5], I’m absolutely gonna get that 30th anniversary DualSense.

[@bradblackmore2627]

DO IT. You must do it.

[@Happy_Hand]

There's a sucker born every minute I guess.

[@MyManJFKTV]

@@Happy_Hand - Shrug.

[@AJ-rm7ie]

Hey if you have the money, it won't break the bank AND you want it then might as well... we only live once. Personally I'm gonna pass, its way too expensive for me. Peace ✌

[@MyManJFKTV]

@@AJ-rm7ie - I can afford it, and I’m gonna buy another PS5 before the year ends regardless whether it’s a PS5 Pro for me or a PS5 for my son…but I’m still not completely sold on the PS5 Pro.

[@xpacerx]

I'm a fan of Days Gone. That game was awesome but it doesn't need a remaster.

[@darryljack6612]

To anyone who is confused about the situation. This is a Patent infringement lawsuit, not a Copyright infringement like everyone thought back in the day. So this lawsuit has nothing to do with artwork or character design. Instead it involves mechanics. The apparent mechanics in question (I could be wrong) that Nintendo has patented and are suing for are (so far) (1) The targeting system of tossing an (not an orb) object at a creature in an overworld, like what we see in Legends Arceus. (2) Mounting and Dismounting a flying creature in the overworld. (3) And releasing creatures into the over world via an object. What's even crazier is that the patent(s) was apparently refiled in May of this year which was AFTER Palworld's release. And was a month or so right before Sony and Pocketpair publicly announced a new partnership to branch Palworld into many of the same avenues of entertainment and media that Pokemon has experienced.

[@RobMost]

How did Sony not get that Concord was going to fail before releasing it? Surely still trying to release it has cost them a lot more...

[@MyManJFKTV]

If you ask me, I think they knew, but they didn’t realize it until that State of Play when the reception was so pisspoor.

[@RobMost]

@@MyManJFKTV But why still go ahead with it at that point? Seems wasteful.

[@chasejackson7248]

It won't, they will write it off on their taxes as a loss.

[@MyManJFKTV]

@@RobMost - Check out what Chase Jackson typed. That’s the answer.

[@tachannel4497]

How? = Old out of touch white an asian dudes that dont really play games

[@SireDragonChester]

Nintendo needs wake up. They so anti consumers vs gamers, content creator, devs and the community that loves Nintendo Ip and games. Nintendo will not hesitate to sue you for saying anything that belongs to Nintendo IP. It’s not 1990 any more Nintendo. Nintendo would sue you for breathing if the had chance too. They really need loosen up. Support the Nintendo community. But we all know that never happen till somebody new in charge take over and is more of Gamer friendly, then some business guy in suit.

[@QuantumNova]

They will protect their IP's... NO EXCEPTIONS. How about just don't copy them? It's very simple. People can't resist for some dumb reason. Not Nintendo's fault.

[@RpgAddict325]

I’ve been telling people that for a long time but Nintendo always somehow gets a pass on all the BS they do. I was a Nintendo fan back in the day, but now I’m just disappointed.

[@SireDragonChester]

@@RpgAddict325 Heh, Yeah almost the same. I Didn’t Own Nes, but at the time, while I going school, was prob 12,14 ish. I use go my friends house, so we could play mega man 2 and few other at his house. His house was just down street from mine. Couldn’t afford my own NES. But I did own Atari 2600 but nobody played that. Was Nintendo vs Sega. It was all they talked about during recess, noon and after school. It Had been before 90’s, Cus, in mid 1990’. My Parents left busy life of Toronto and we moved to a farm in AB Canada. I Later end up buying Snes and grew up playing that. Mega man X, uh Zelda: Link to the past, and Top Gear 2, NHL 94, lol when Ea was good, couple others. Don’t remember what other I played to death. Now 47 yrs old, Don’t get me wrong,I still love Nintendo, love my Wiiu and switch. looking toward the switch 2. But I still agree Nintendo is very anti consumer and they do needs wake up and join us in 2024. But Nintendo will never change. I’ve Seen so many awesome and wonderful worlds a single Guy bring Links game in UE4 games and demo. And what does Nintendo do. Sue them. Not hire them for next gen Zelda games. Nintendo hates its gamers and players. And so anti consumers about anything Nintendo. If you breath the world Nintendo. They jump down your throat and send army of lawyers after you, and chances they win. Imagine a valve or steam was that harsh or strict. They would never have survived. How Nintendo has? I’ll never understand.

[@kringhetto]

Welp, guess it's time to go re-download Palworld.

[@nworder4life]

You''ll play it for 2 hours then delete it again LOL

[@kringhetto]

@@nworder4life Damn, you got me pegged. 😆

[@cjlister8508]

Gaming patents are the worst. If the OG game devs had patented their game mechanics then Nintendo and Pokemon wouldnt exist. No Mario games if the first person to make a platforming game patented "jumping on platforms and moving sideways in a level"

[@trinity31409]

Maybe. However patents are granted for novel development. They must be new invention and distinct from previously existing things to get approved. So simple platforming would not be patentable as it was a common element in game design. It would not be unique enough.

[@cjlister8508]

@@trinity31409 Thats my point though. It wasnt a common element when gaming first came about. If the first person to come up with that concept patented it then we wouldnt have most of the modern gaming industry. Same applies for the first FPS game, and any other "First"

[@jr2904]

​@@cjlister8508 that's business and life sometimes. Remember, Oreos are the knockoff copy version.

[@gamingjunkie5601]

Days Gone was sick. The landscapes reminded me of central oregon alot

[@Syn-eo7yv]

Being able to patent a gameplay mechanic is sickening and shouldn't be allowed. How the hell does Nintendo have a patent on catching a wild animal with an item? I'm pretty sure we've been doing that for thousands of years before Nintendo existed with nets and snares.

[@thebravegallade731]

Exept that literally every other company in japan does this. Though its 100% to prevent legal issues down the road

[@Syn-eo7yv]

@@thebravegallade731 yea, but with gaming mechanics? Unless someone is stealing the coding that your team has written, this is stupid. Imagine if every game with a new mechanic made a patent for it, the state of videogames would be crushed in a couple of years.

[@JRocmasta]

I really wanna see a PS2 edition PS5 for the 25ᵗʰ anniversary

[@Fullmetal1291985]

Bioware gonna be folding soon 😅

[@legendaryhero90]

I remember a crazy patent law suit between capcom and koei tecmo. Capcom sued koei at the time for what was basically using the ability to load game data into the games system memory and then using an expansion disc afterwards. This was wild because capcom themselves had no games at the time that used this system while koei had several games that used this technology.

[@deltamaxxhomevideo]

Next: Nintendo sues Sony over using their patented throwing mechanics in MLB The Show.

[@TakisEnjoyer]

Nintendo using a lot of Sony patents too, it's a normal thing in the gaming industry, every company uses someone elses patents and never gets sued unless they overstep boundaries. I guess that's what happened here. Last time someone tried to patent and ask a fee for a thing Nintendo technically owned they went nuclear on them in court.

[@reiswindy]

@@TakisEnjoyer Colopl moment.

[@rei1556]

​@@TakisEnjoyerglad to see someone knows their gaming history, the reason the japanese game devs even patents everything showed itself when the wiimote lawsuit happened, then colopl came and did a major stupid move, nintendo was even trying to warn them privately with 1 year negotiation period

[@thomasknapp6434]

@@rei1556 Yeah, Nintendo actually isn't one to throw out spurious and false legal accusations. They can certainly be DICKS about who they accuse and what they file suit about, but they are rarely "wrong" in the legal sense.

[@noperopepope]

That would only happen if you can start catching baseball players

[@Peponlikespeson3684]

They should make the release of this 30 years anniversary over the counter at stores to avoid scalpers abusing.

[@mattholt5063]

Game play copyrights is a tough one. While I understand protecting games and their ideas to a degree, I can’t help think that overall game development takes too long and games are too infrequent within a given bracket for it to be anything but stifling for the industry.

[@thebravegallade731]

Which is why the do it. They do it to defend against patent trolls and prevent disruptions.

[@BladeCuttervita]

Days gone was a great game after the launch patch came out (it was glitchy before that). But the game was super fun and while not Sonys best story in a game it was still cool and it was tied into syphon filter if you really paid attention

[@JJAB91]

So when is Square Enix going to sue Nintendo for copying Dragon Quest's designs?

[@anon1692]

Dragon Quests's designs were from Akira Toriyama brah 🤡

[@leonxus2701]

​@@anon1692so what are you trying to say

[@cbgg1585]

Lmao, Nintendo does a really good job in publishing DQ in the west. Without them, we probably wouldn't have the 9th game and the 3DS remakes. Their past made it certain for the Switch success. Dragon quest is arguably only successful due to their massive success on Nintendo machines dating back decades. Square and Nintendo extremely tight knit. Nice try, though.. feel free to try again. 🤣

[@lanquin]

@@anon1692 They're referencing an image that has made the rounds that compares Dragon Quest monsters to Pokémon designs. It is used as some sort of gotcha, but it is just designs based on either real life insects/mammals or mythical/folklore creatures.

[@Foun_D_OnePiece]

Yeah Square should sue Nintendo for stealing Dragon Quest characters and adding them on their Smash Bros game. What's next Solaire from Dark Souls? Gee imagine stealing that character and turning him into an amiibo.

[@tazgamerplays]

I guess Sony completely forgot about all the og ps5 owners for the anniversary.

[@HylianBull]

Nintendo maxed out the Legal branch on their skill tree. They like flexing their build.

[@cabb6573]

Meanwhile they have a 3/10 for hardware lol

[@cbgg1585]

@@cabb6573120+ million consoles sold.

[@HylianBull]

​@@cabb6573 Maybe if they stop investing so many points in Ninja...

[@hyperdark22]

Underrated comment

[@jkd610]

It's morally right for Nintendo to sue them 🥰🥰

[@ZissErik-X]

You are correct about this it's not about the likeness of how close palworld looks compared to pokémon, This whole thing is about the way you capture your monster. Basically representing the pokeball which is what Nintendo is going after palworld for.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

Dragon age: Top Scars

[@ppidk2267]

They could be putting the money into suing them into a good pokemon game

[@cbgg1585]

Lmao, keep crying, b3llend.. 50+ million copies sold combined Sw/Sh/S/V. YOU epitomize why the internet is a niche aspect of life. What you want and the TRUE world outside of the internet are 2 different things. No amount of crying about quality will change the fact Pokemon is a juggernaut. And additionally, the suit is regarding patent and copyright infringements. Nothing to do with perceived quality of the games.

[@cbgg1585]

Lmao, keep crying, b3llend.. 50+ million copies sold combined. YOU epitomize why the internet is a niche aspect of life. What you want and the TRUE world outside of the internet are 2 different things. No amount of crying about quality will change the fact Pokemon is a juggernaut. And additionally, the suit is regarding patent and copyright infringements. Nothing to do with perceived quality of the games.

[@neonsheep3358]

That'd require creativity and listening to fans.

[@derekosgood3230]

​​​@@neonsheep3358But scarlet and violet sold over 20 million. I believe 25 mil. So apparently they are listening to fans.

[@kejigoto]

Pocket Pair knows what patents they infringed upon, they were informed of this when served with the lawsuit notice. The fact that they aren't saying so speaks volumes. You don't get sued and then have to sit there wondering what the details are of the lawsuit.

[@MasonJBean]

Nintendo is breaking the gentlemens agreement to not use patents against other game studios

[@thebravegallade731]

Funny thing is thst on the jp side the public opinion is against palworld and the indie devs more so... for the audacity that pocketpair is claiming to fight 'for indie devs'

[@jessekoepp3928]

You are NOT telling the truth when it comes to the sentiment regarding the new Dragon Age. It's not hard to figure out WHY that is either. I have no respect for you anymore.

[@priorwitness]

I do not think that Sony is handling the Anniversary well at all. They should develop an easily accessible system for fans of Playstation to purchase in the look and feel of the original Playstation One. I would go so far as to say they should have bundled a classic compilation of games as part of the system. Instead, they have made a scarce item with only a handful of features and they are marketing it as a premium product that only the financially elite can purchase. Shameful.

[@juiceala]

The only way Sony would get Jon to buy yet another Duelsense controller is to make a GC purple variant.

[@ScottishDuck17]

Too bad it wasn't the Professor that stepped down within Firewalk.

[@Mari_Izu]

"I believe they bumped up a couple of slots" We can literally see new slots being added in the trailer.

[@Colorado-Coyote]

The fact that companies can copyright systems in games is fucking disgusting.

[@justanotherday5441]

It seems like a good use of why patents were created. It's used in all kinds business disputes exactly the same way.

[@98ek9]

Didnt they give Jim Ryan a grey PS5 when he left? They already had the idea in the making last year.

[@neonsheep3358]

Of course Dragon Age previews look good. Journalists are the modern audience.

[@mappybc6097]

Casuals are the modern audience. You know, the same ones that didn't give a s**t about Hi-Fail Rush and Atro Flop but will buy the ultimate edition of the next Madden or COD. If you have casual appeal you don't give af about the whinings of gamers. That said, action rpgs are not normally a casual genre, so I don't think that Veilguard can afford that luxury.

[@sadworldwelivein2218]

Soy wave 🤣

[@Fidelis1776]

Just a few months ago they were pretty negative on the trailer. Yep, sounds like the typical wishy washy modern audience. Pretty sure there was a lot of comments from the Spawnwave cast as well. Tomorrow should be fun.

[@mrbisshie]

I'm just staring at the game play, and thinking, "What am I missing? This doesn't even look like Dragon Age, this looks like shit!"

[@VitalVampyr]

A lot of the people at the preview event were independent KZbinrs. Some of them have even specifically called out games like Concord or Dustborn for trying to appeal to appeal to "the modern audience".

[@finchharper4647]

Everyone buying the Limited Edition PS5 Pro will all be bought by scalpers.

[@MikeButash]

Stop supporting patent trolls. I'd rather support the emulator developers.

[@jmillart]

This lawsuit should not stand. Nintendo took out those patents after palworld was released. Also game mechanics should not be copyrightable. Remember Namco patenting loading screen games? No one was allowed to do it. Imagine if someone copywrote jumping? Very bad precedent if nintendo wins this one. Imagine if only one painter was allowed to use the color blue? That would suck.

[@trinity31409]

I have seen many comments like this. Consider though that patents are reviewed by highly specialised people. It is not like getting an idea notarized. The ratio of approved patents to rejected ones is about 1:10000. For a patent to be approved it must have a specific and unique element that does not already exist. So any patent granted is far more likely to be worthy of protection than not.

[@jmillart]

@@trinity31409 sure, but if you even one oppressive patent goes through, that affects everybody

[@nworder4life]

@@jmillart So what? People shouldn't be making games that directly infringe upon another franchises core idea and concept.

[@jmillart]

@@nworder4life you mean like "...player character is caused to launch, in the aiming direction, an item that affects a field character disposed on a field in the virtual space,..." You realize this could apply to grenades rocks etc. Waaaaay to generalized. Is pokemon gonna sue Call of Duty for having frag grenades next? Because they could with your logic.

[@trash_gamer143]

$1000 is generous, no way it is less than $1199

[@Josh_the_jester]

I didn't see palworld as "pokemon with Guns." i saw it more as "ark survival evolved with pokemon" because that's what you do in Ark, you spawn in, punch a tree, grab a rock, make a pick and an axe, and set a base of operations, as well as capture and tame the local fauna to make life easier

[@franciscorodriguez8915]

I swear if they remaster Days Gone before Bloodborne I’m gonna lose it

[@chasejackson7248]

Get over that mediocre game it was fun but nothing special

[@mrbisshie]

Your best chance to get a "remastered" Bloodborne is via emulation. I'm not really into souls games, so I don't really care about the remaster.

[@franciscorodriguez8915]

@@chasejackson7248 better than Days gone that’s for sure

[@elianperez1992]

Bro really said "the dozen or so fans" 💀

[@DrummerPunked]

I bet Nintendo is going to keep this Paton suite going as long as it takes to bankrupt them.

[@basti__]

They earned enough money that I highly doubt they'd run out of money anytime soon. 30$ per Game and only 1 month after release they already sold 15 million copies.. that are 450.000.000$

[@cbgg1585]

So what if they do? As long as Nintendo isn’t harmed financially and I still get paid decently as a 10+ equities Nintendo investor, then that’s what matters. Dog eat dog world.

[@noperopepope]

I don't think so, Pocketpair will probably settle to reduce losses.

[@mrbisshie]

@@basti__ Microsoft and Steam take 30% of each sale.

[@basti__]

@@mrbisshie oh no.. Anyway they still made over 300 million in the first month.

[@ssj3fox]

Face buttons with different colors! Yes!

[@jubei20111]

Sony doing whatever it can to try and salvage the Pro's disastrous reveal.

[@nnnneeeeuuuu]

Everyone was really happy to play Veilguard after getting a free trip and hotel paid by EA

[@DS9TREK]

Paid

[@nnnneeeeuuuu]

@@DS9TREK goddamnit I always make that mistake haha

[@SENATORPAIN1]

Dragon age top surgery simulator.cant wait!

[@charlie1234500]

In a fantasy setting Lmao Goodbye Bioware, another shutdown well deserved 👋

[@JJAB91]

Can't have an ass slider, can't have a chest slider, can't even have blood magic, but we get a bulge slider, top surgery scars(in a magical world btw), and non-binary options. What an absolute joke.

[@crystalwater505]

@@charlie1234500 Yep. People need to realize as well that the people that gave us great Bioware games of the past have long since left the company and they are Bioware in name only, like a lot of game companies.

[@charlie1234500]

@@crystalwater505 Obsidian, Valve, Blizzard, Rockstar Games, Bungie, CD Projekt Red, everything Sony, Maxis Studios, etc. I wouldn't even bat an eye with their shut down.

[@FuriousTartan]

I thought days gone had better characters, story and gameplay. Than the last of us. Don’t think Sony would put out a remaster when they don’t want a sequel .

[@leonbabic7185]

I'd like to get the 30th anniversary controller, but the problem is Sony won't sell them in my region. You can only get them at PS Direct wich I don't have access to.

[@michaelmyersplays4992]

Yeah but they’ll be out in other retailers on the 26 if you don’t have direct Walmart ect ect

[@leonbabic7185]

@@michaelmyersplays4992 Oh, sony's wording somehow confused me. After checking again, you're right. Let's see if they produce enough stock though. The 20th anniversary controllers were actually available for a bit, so let's hope that'll be the case this time as well.

[@michaelmyersplays4992]

@@leonbabic7185 definitely man and I hope you get one 🙌🏾. Good luck

[@CuriousCorduroy]

As someone who is still using the controller that came with my PS5 I wouldn’t mind grabbing one of those anniversary controllers.

[@fancyjoey9102]

They put top surgery scars in character creator for a fantasy game. Yeah, this game is going to sell like hotcakes.

[@DV-ou1yu]

Wtf is top surgery? Serious question lol

[@fancyjoey9102]

@@DV-ou1yu I’m dead serious.

[@DV-ou1yu]

@JeffIsOnline99 Wtf jesus

[@DV-ou1yu]

@fancyjoey9102 Ridiculous. I'm ok with accepting others etc, but this is just getting ridiculous.

[@mrbisshie]

@@DV-ou1yu Look up "Ellen Page topless". Also, aside from this gross shit, the game play looks like shit. lol