Nintendo Just Sued the Creators of Palworld...

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MrHulthen

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Nintendo & the Pokémon company just hit Pocketpair with a lawsuit regarding Palworld.
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@MrHulthen
@MrHulthen 4 ай бұрын
Can't say that i'm surprised. Pretty unfortunate tho. Also yes, I know i pronounced "patent" wrongly several times. I'm sorry alright - I'M SORRY! 🫠 Also to clarify what i said in the video: The lawsuit is obviously surrounding patent (what for we simply don't know at this point) - But as Pocketpair has taken atleast a few artistic liberties with their designs, I wouldn't exactly say that I'm surprised. Again, it's not about Copyright surrounding monster designs specifically - I just brought that up as an example for why Nintendo might have found a case for themselves and it could be any number of reasons. Sources: x.com/Dexerto/status/1836551578565681346 x.com/Wario64/status/1836548876108468345 x.com/Palworld_EN/status/1836692701355688146 www.statista.com/statistics/1447359/palworld-games-sales-worldwide/
@aeli999
@aeli999 4 ай бұрын
You get a pass on patent. Lots of English as a first language people can't pronounce it either. 🤣
@Iamnoone-z1p
@Iamnoone-z1p 4 ай бұрын
I pronounce it the same way so yeh it is what it is 😅
@Emptylord
@Emptylord 4 ай бұрын
Both pronunciations are listed in the dictionary: /ˈpatnt,ˈpeɪtnt/. It's regional. Pronouncing it the way the Cambridge Dictionary describes as the "US" way doesn't make it correct. Funnily enough, after looking into it, the "regional" doesn't even seem to be consistent between dictionaries. Google Dictionary says I (British) should be say patnt (which to me sounds like they should have spelled it pa:nt with the first t being dropped like in "bo:le of wa:er"), but Cambridge says I should be saying peɪtnt (as you did in this video). Vowels are pronounced different in virtually every location that speaks English - don't fret about it.
@seanmcelroy6222
@seanmcelroy6222 4 ай бұрын
honestly dude that is likely an IGN hit piece. most likely paid for by Nintendo.
@joshuacraies8671
@joshuacraies8671 4 ай бұрын
Grizzbolts inspiration is the electric bear that is the mascot for Akihabara. Ya know grizzbolt, grizzly bear lightning bolt aka an electric bear. Model design and animation takes some inspiration from my neighbor totoro as well
@rambofan334
@rambofan334 4 ай бұрын
Did Nintendo forget that Universal sued them for pretty much the same thing in the 80s?
@QuantumNova
@QuantumNova 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo won that battle.
@nohandlesplease
@nohandlesplease 4 ай бұрын
@@QuantumNova If anything that actually proves his point. Nintendo has been on the other side of this battle and the defendant won. The prescedent already exists that they are in the wrong.
@apersonontheinternet8354
@apersonontheinternet8354 4 ай бұрын
If pocketpair fights it, I see 2 outcomes. A: (What seems most likely) Nintendo wins, pocketpair gets gutted and palworld gets wiped from all current platformed indefinitely. B: Nintendo loses, and the industry sees that Nintendo is not invincible, allowing people and inspiring people to try to make games that may be similar to Nintendo IPs without fear of the Nintendo scare tactics. I personally hope for B, but A seems like it will happen 99% out of 100%.
@saroporoggo
@saroporoggo 4 ай бұрын
The MASSIVE clause on option B being that they need to the funds to go to court with Nintendo
@wormwoodmain6677
@wormwoodmain6677 4 ай бұрын
All pocketpair has to do is change the pal ball into something else. Use a portal cube or something.
@huntermeldrum6444
@huntermeldrum6444 4 ай бұрын
Another outcome is for a way for them to settle instead, but I agree that I want outcome B to happen.
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra 4 ай бұрын
If they fight Nintendo, regardless of which outcome seems likely, Nintendo can just pour more money on and drag out the process until Pocket Pair runs out, can't they? Or is it different in Japan?
@x3SayuriChan
@x3SayuriChan 4 ай бұрын
@@wormwoodmain6677 Sadly that wouldn't be enough. What I've read from that specific patent is that it isn't specfied what object gets thrown at the creature in the field. It merely states the player character aims an item at a creature in the field and when thrown either captures it or switches to battle. Which is a really stupid vague patent to begin with. There are so many games where you throw any kind of objects at enemies. How Nintendo managed to get a patent on a broad mechanic like that is beyond me.
@UniversalChallenge4454
@UniversalChallenge4454 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo seems to fear competition
@danteXcrossing
@danteXcrossing 4 ай бұрын
Always have
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire 4 ай бұрын
All corporations fear competition. That's why they get powerful government issued tools such as copyrights and patents, so ensure they can maintain control and dominance. Welcome to capitalism.
@gwouru
@gwouru 4 ай бұрын
@@ScytheNoire copyrights and patents protect the little people from the giant corporations just as much as they protect big corporations from plagiarism. It protects you, if you create something unique.
@MonoDree
@MonoDree 4 ай бұрын
But it’s not competition if someone rips you off. There are many Pokémon clones out there but this one is just slapping Nintendo in the face with some of those pal designs
@blackpiranaha525
@blackpiranaha525 4 ай бұрын
Thats how a monopoly works 😅
@Krash9697
@Krash9697 4 ай бұрын
In the states no one has rights over abstract ideas. Japanese laws are different so this is looking very bleak. Hopefully Sony and Microsoft are able to back them up with the deals they have
@babayaga4320
@babayaga4320 4 ай бұрын
Where is the line between ''inspired by'' or illegal rip off? Souls-likes is an entire genre of games that replicate a lot of mechanics and designs from FromSoft games. If FromSoft sued Lies of P, Lords of the Fallen and dozens of other games in that category, would they have a case?
@takeyourheart1
@takeyourheart1 4 ай бұрын
From Soft would have to try to patent their formula somehow but their games are really just difficult action adventure games at the end of the day. If someone made a game where all the bosses were slightly tweaked versions of Elden Ring bosses, then they’d sue.
@unverifiedcontentlessyoutu1488
@unverifiedcontentlessyoutu1488 4 ай бұрын
For souls-likes, while i haven't played much of any of them, it would be copying a boss and its attack pattern, and not be sleek enough so people don't go point out that they're the same. I hope nintendo's lawsuit doesn't go their way as i'd maybe like to play palworld someday, but palworld really wasn't trying to hide their "inspirations" at all with the pals and other design choices. The advertisement of the game is screaming "we're pokemon, but cooler".
@georgehouliaras7239
@georgehouliaras7239 4 ай бұрын
Never trust the yellow mouse, Commander. Especially if it can shoot lightning from it's cheeks.
@pixelmafiaxbl
@pixelmafiaxbl 4 ай бұрын
I hope Pocket Pair fight back and win. Nintendo are way too aggressive with lawyering up whenever there’s a sniff of competition. Palworld is obviously heavily inspired by Pokemon but it’s different enough to where it has its own identity. Also, it’s not hurting Nintendo or the Pokemon IP as it’s available on platforms where Pokemon isn’t being sold.
@serge263
@serge263 4 ай бұрын
To be fair, if you actually read up on the inspiration for Palworld, it's actually the game Rimworld. Which was inspired by Dwarf Fortress. It's basically Rimworld + Pokemon inspired.
@talimancern7724
@talimancern7724 4 ай бұрын
I hope Nintendo loses and Palworld gets more popular.
@tyanajones8399
@tyanajones8399 4 ай бұрын
They will WATCH.
@MonoDree
@MonoDree 4 ай бұрын
I hope they win, the issues are the obvious Pokémon design ripoffs. Not all pals but quite a lot. If they just didn’t do that they would have been fine.
@HoboWithAShotgun
@HoboWithAShotgun 4 ай бұрын
Lol pc gamers are bored to tears since pal world sold 20 million. You all accept trash like it's gourmet cuisine...
@apexghost1294
@apexghost1294 4 ай бұрын
@@MonoDree if Palworld loses, we could hope that the only stipulation is to change Pal designs. If Nintendo tries to say they own the entire genre of monster capture, I don't think Nintendo will be able to win.
@crackedblack1410
@crackedblack1410 4 ай бұрын
You got my hopes too
@thehucklebillyfenn
@thehucklebillyfenn 4 ай бұрын
Like one of those commenters mentioned, I think it is important to differentiate patent with copyright. Nintendo is not suing because the designs are copying Pokémon, that would be a copyright lawsuit. They are suing because of certain patents they think were violated, that would be closer to systems, executed concepts, or features. We don’t know what the alleged patents are, but it would be more similar to, “a system where you battle and catch fantastical creatures in magical balls where you can then reuse them in combat” rather than, “this pal has this specific trait recognizable to this x Pokémon.” I honestly don’t see how Nintendo could win given things like storing creatures and using them in battles is in no way specific to Pokémon. It will all depend on the revealed patents though. I also have no idea how Japan handles patent law and whether they will be fair to an indie studio compared to a multi-billion dollar franchise. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pokémon company was trying to develop their own survival Pokémon game (an upgraded Legends game maybe?), and so they want to take down the competition. They are infamous for taking down roms and fan games right before game unveils and releases.
@melonman6522
@melonman6522 4 ай бұрын
It's probably related to Legends ZA, it is the next game they are releasing for the Switch
@aerostrafe1075
@aerostrafe1075 4 ай бұрын
That would be wild since lots of monster franchises came and went with similar concepts. Wonder if Disney revived Spectrobes would Nintendo try this on them?
@CreativeForgeEntertainment
@CreativeForgeEntertainment 4 ай бұрын
@@melonman6522 they cant sue for that as palworld is older than ZA
@davidzimmerman617
@davidzimmerman617 4 ай бұрын
@@CreativeForgeEntertainment It's Nintendo, they'll find a loophole lol
@yulfine1688
@yulfine1688 4 ай бұрын
It doesn't add up and while it's true Japan has its own laws something like this would likely get moved to intranational court instead if they pushed to do so which Nintendo would definitely lose. Most of Japan's laws are the same as the us and rest of the world save a few when it comes to things like patents or copy right etc.
@ddmaster08
@ddmaster08 4 ай бұрын
I don't think it Will happen. But if pocketpair actually managed to win the lawsuit, they Will Become legendary.
@Zathurious
@Zathurious 4 ай бұрын
Ironic, considering winning a lawsuit is only reason Nintendo exists as a company today. If they had lost the lawsuit with Hollywood studios back in the 80s, the company would not have survived.
@the_pumpking_
@the_pumpking_ 4 ай бұрын
They became what they swore to destroy :/
@circledude2362
@circledude2362 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo was the david in the lawsuit filed by universal. Universal was the goliath back then. Now, Nintendo has become the goliath.
@nahuelcutrera
@nahuelcutrera 4 ай бұрын
because they invented pets and nobody else should be able to do the same !!! absurd and ridiculous
@Sereth219
@Sereth219 4 ай бұрын
It's amazing how this happens right before the possible announcement of Palworld coming to ps5
@saroporoggo
@saroporoggo 4 ай бұрын
Game freak are my least favourite developer. They are so incompetent and so unimaginative, they constantly play it safe and even then they fail to make a good safe game, it always ends up being bug ridden, bland and boring. It's so unbelievably frustrating thinking about what other decent devs could do with a pokemon game that isn't based on design limitations of a gameboy color.
@cecarter10
@cecarter10 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo copied dragon quest...
@HyouVizer
@HyouVizer 4 ай бұрын
I hate this meme so much lol
@QuantumNova
@QuantumNova 4 ай бұрын
@@HyouVizer I saw it, and it's stupid as hell. LOL
@Imran84_
@Imran84_ 4 ай бұрын
Theres a bat in dragon quest and bat in pokemon (that look nothing alike in styel)​@QuantumNova
@loneneko
@loneneko 4 ай бұрын
Where did game freak get their inspiration from? Why put hard work into your game when you can take millions from your competitors. If Nintendo thinks i gave pokemon money to palworld, they are as delusional as the Nintendo fanbase.
@BVBZACHARY97
@BVBZACHARY97 4 ай бұрын
All this has done is painted Nintendo as bad guys in my eyes
@Mabra51
@Mabra51 4 ай бұрын
They were being the bad guys for a while, now.
@mr.curtis6730
@mr.curtis6730 4 ай бұрын
Since when was nintedo the good guy?
@SELF_TlTLED
@SELF_TlTLED 4 ай бұрын
@@mr.curtis6730like the 80s to early 2000s
@mr.curtis6730
@mr.curtis6730 4 ай бұрын
@@SELF_TlTLED the last time nintendo was good was when iwata was still alive, once bowser took over and reggie left nintendo has gotten 100 times worse
@yulfine1688
@yulfine1688 4 ай бұрын
They've been for decades now.. like most corporations
@Zinkyeal
@Zinkyeal 4 ай бұрын
Well, Nintendo lost me fully
@Starkill3r306
@Starkill3r306 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo and their fans mad someone made a better game with so many features they didn’t think of.
@LightShadowOnyx
@LightShadowOnyx 4 ай бұрын
let see how things play out it would suck if palworld goes away
@harveycustodio2625
@harveycustodio2625 4 ай бұрын
It wouldn't go away... At most I think Palworld would have to change some Mechanics to differentiate it more from Pokemon.
@EpicLelouch
@EpicLelouch 4 ай бұрын
i mean i don't see the issue really if it's patents like that would be saying all battle royal games illegally copied the first game or same with rogue like ect.
@zoltanschweifer4304
@zoltanschweifer4304 4 ай бұрын
Mybe not everything is lost don't forget they have Microsoft to back them up.
@NicholasSanchez-df7ls
@NicholasSanchez-df7ls 4 ай бұрын
They also have Sony to back them up as well since palworld and Sony made a business deal to expand in other media's like toys and such
@zoltanschweifer4304
@zoltanschweifer4304 4 ай бұрын
@@NicholasSanchez-df7ls true
@warnpeace5294
@warnpeace5294 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo needs to be humbled fuckem I want Palworld to win
@vreeze33
@vreeze33 4 ай бұрын
To be fair to palworld, you can compare pokemon to earlier designs of other games and probably find a lot of similarities.
@Alexis-vv5bk
@Alexis-vv5bk 4 ай бұрын
If they shut down this game I hope it destroys Nintendo's game sales forever.
@sivithepony5171
@sivithepony5171 4 ай бұрын
What about people making commission art of pokemon and charging for it? Nintendo going to sue everyone doing that?
@DMBLaan
@DMBLaan 4 ай бұрын
I'm not defending Nintendo's lawsuit, but I will say Pocketpair aren't as helpless as "just another indi studio" either. If memory serves, they made over a billion dollars USD from Palworld, which already means they can more than afford to fight this. And a lot of Pocketpair's business as a whole is a lot more corporate than most indi studios tend to be. So, no, I don't think this is Nintendo vs the "little guy", sorry to say.
@alegotronnortogela7695
@alegotronnortogela7695 4 ай бұрын
Honestly. I hate Nintendo Corp. All their cease and desist on fan projects, like AM2R. Their acquisition of Bayonetta license, so Bayonetta 3 could look and run like shit locked to crap hardware. Constant suing and shutdown of rom sites that Sony and Microsoft have much less interest in. They are such a sue happy company. Jealous, bitter, butt hurt individuals. Meanwhile they barely support their old Ips via virtual store, there's still no gamecube virtual store, no wii support, etc. etc. But the secondhand market for preowned copies of old games is skyrocketing, due to rising value and rarity. Nintendo corp effing sucks! If they focused less on lawsuits and guard dogging, and more on better hardware and virtual market (retro games support) If they just released their games on PC for example, they'd make way more money, there would be less people stealing their shit, and there would be less people like me saying they are a crap company as a whole. The devs do make decent games, INSPIRATIONAL games. I don't even like Palworld that much, it's objectively a mid survival game with a lot of content. I still hate Nintendo corp for this.
@jilliancrawford7577
@jilliancrawford7577 4 ай бұрын
There are bound to be similarities and Nintendo can't claim ownership of what's basically a more advanced and literal interpretation of entities posessing items or whatever they're trying to claim is theirs. I hope for the best for Picketpair.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 ай бұрын
Why is Nintendo even suing Palworld creators because isn’t this game a success.
@uberculex
@uberculex 4 ай бұрын
The more successful it is, the more they can claim dilution of brand.
@orangeoblivion
@orangeoblivion 4 ай бұрын
You don’t sue unsuccessful people, they don’t have the money.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 ай бұрын
@@orangeoblivion agreed
@lionspridemedia
@lionspridemedia 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to watch your video, but many of the issues you’re mentioning are more about copyright/trademark infringements, which isn’t what this case is about. I think it’s important for people to understand the nuances and differences between patents (which cover game mechanics) and trademark/copyright infringements (which deal with designs and branding). It’s crucial to pay attention to these distinctions to really understand what’s going on here. What’s being put out there for the public is likely based on a broad interpretation of what can and cannot be patented, due to common sense or commonality in games. For example, the Nemesis system was patentable because it was unique. There’s nothing unique about capturing creatures in spheres or any aspect they could try to sue for. In the long run, this may just be a tactic to force Pocketpair to submit to a behemoth because Nintendo and Pokémon don’t want to innovate.
@nightchildkota_gaming3898
@nightchildkota_gaming3898 4 ай бұрын
LMAO what you are talking about is copyright and they aren't sueing for copyright they are sueing for patents also the designs are NOTHING alike yeah maybe anubis but that is really far fetched
@OrkDiktator
@OrkDiktator 4 ай бұрын
Plot twist: Nintendo and Pokemon want to copy palworld and want to make sure Pocketpair won't be able to sue them
@XGiveMeLibertyX
@XGiveMeLibertyX 4 ай бұрын
Man this just killed what little excitement I had for the switch 2. Haven’t played a Nintendo game since donkey Kong on the SNES and looks like I won’t ever play another one. Fuck Nintendo!
@p.ookaa1
@p.ookaa1 4 ай бұрын
Im sure Nintendo will really miss you
@uberculex
@uberculex 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like you definitely were just about to buy a Switch 2 lol. "I swear I only needed 30 years and I was back on board."
@Weiswolfe
@Weiswolfe 4 ай бұрын
@@p.ookaa1 no they wont give you a switch 2 for defending them
@astolfo2305
@astolfo2305 4 ай бұрын
@@p.ookaa1 they get mad if you use emulator so
@ATAndreiThomas
@ATAndreiThomas 4 ай бұрын
God damn I hate to see Nintendo/Pokemon and Pocketpair/Palworld fight each other, I love them both, and as a long serving Nintendo and Pokemon fan, I respect pocketpair Palworld for creating something Incredible, after all we all have to get ideas from somewhere that we find inspirational.
@gwouru
@gwouru 4 ай бұрын
Considering how many designs Pokemon stole from other sources, and how the palworld designs are different enough, it's probably something else that they're being sued for, like the palballs...
@TPG25153
@TPG25153 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo saw a game hat had similar stuff and instated of looking at it as a good thing and step up the quality of the newer Pokémon games they said naa let sue them cause we are Nintendo we have our own museum and are huge source of pride for the Japanese we can due anything we want
@Agherosh
@Agherosh 4 ай бұрын
Then Nintendo should be sued due to their design copies.
@saroporoggo
@saroporoggo 4 ай бұрын
Which?
@DarkZodiacZZ
@DarkZodiacZZ 4 ай бұрын
@@saroporoggo The ones from the Dragon Quest?
@pompneigh4329
@pompneigh4329 4 ай бұрын
@@saroporoggo As DarkZodiac said; Dragon Quest.
@SELF_TlTLED
@SELF_TlTLED 4 ай бұрын
@@DarkZodiacZZmost of the comparisons are stretches tbh (both the Pokémon/dq and palword/Pokemon comparisons)
@pinklightninggacha
@pinklightninggacha 4 ай бұрын
May pocketpair win Nintendo needs to be humbled
@etherd
@etherd 4 ай бұрын
Too bad Darwin isnt around to sue nintendo.
@Nijonibi
@Nijonibi 4 ай бұрын
okay, there are only so many ways you can artistically create a fictional creature based of real world animal and give them some kinda of magical elemental power. theres like over 1000 pokemon. Draw a blue baby penguin or a yellow rat in any sort of way and get sued by nintendo. I think the only place palworld may have crossed a line is with the way they capture the creatures. Maybe a cage rather than a ball, sphere, orb, or whatever. but where does that leave the next creature collecting game if they patent that. there are only so many options. Does nintendo also want to sue Blizzard for how they capture the prime evils with soulstones in Diablo? is a soulstone to much like a pokeball? is imprisoning a demon too much like catching a pokemon. Palworld is not pokemon, and with maybe a few exceptions on some of the creatures which like I said theres a limited number of ways to create them anyways. And with the exception of some children, who palworld isnt really intended for and would likely be playing fortnite anyways. I dont think anyone will be confusing the two.
@retsulol
@retsulol 4 ай бұрын
isnt pokemons whole thing evolution and evolving. there are no evolutions in palworld. 🤷‍♀️
@Natch_Leopard
@Natch_Leopard 4 ай бұрын
I kind of had a feeling this would happen eventually.
@yulfine1688
@yulfine1688 4 ай бұрын
My question is why now? The years and years and despite his sucessful it was now far later they bother with it? Seems strange to me.
@JokeCubed
@JokeCubed 4 ай бұрын
I would think a company like Nintendo would have some pretty expensive lawyers and would've done their due diligence and they probably wouldn't have even begun the lawsuit if they weren't fairly confident they'd win. It's pretty obvious to anyone with eyes that some of the Pals are just Pokemon that have been palette swapped. Having people say that Nintendo is salty at Pocketpair because Palworld sold well is just ridiculous. They are Nintendo, they own some of the largest media franchises in the entire world, of which Pokemon is the biggest. Even if Pocketpair did make $750 million from Palworld, that's chump change to a company like Nintendo. There is also the matter of protecting their IP. Nintendo probably has to pursue litigation on this, to show that they are aggressively defending their IP, otherwise if another studio comes out and makes a game that's a Pokemon rip-off, they could say "Pocketpair did it and you didn't have a problem with it."
@Robdou3
@Robdou3 4 ай бұрын
Faz saying that pokemon did not made a good game in 10 year is a lie. Like there was pokemon legends arceus. That was diff and good. And now we gonna have legends z-a in the next year
@theboulder027
@theboulder027 4 ай бұрын
As I recall there's a pal that looks exactly like shiny gigantamax eevee
@MiguelGarcia-fk9ov
@MiguelGarcia-fk9ov 4 ай бұрын
The fact that Nintendo is scared of any game that resembles pokemon is so hilarious. They have been ruining the games snd series for years now of course they are scared other catching monster games are better wich they have been 😂
@rosebrigade
@rosebrigade 4 ай бұрын
the comparisons are super nitpicky, there's not enough similarity to mean much. A penguin is a penguin, the Grimtail is literally Cheshire Cat, and the crown? Really? They're 2 different animals, a penguin and a llama. And the electabuzz comparison is way off. Grizzbolt is only really similar in color and has a lightning bolt on it. Otherwise its so different that my first guess was it wasn't even a pokemon like game. Inspiration maybe at best for the designs, but let's be real most of Palworld's designs are better than Pokemon's (especially in the later generations). It's better than a set of freaking keys and a sentient pile of garbage. Also I like how during the "They share so many gameplay elements to pokemon" you're literally showing the character firing a gun. I wonder when Pokemon has ever had a gun. Oh right that 1 episode that got banned in america of the anime. The only thing similar between the 2 games is catching the creatures. But then we need to get pokemon sued because Shin Megami Tensei started that trend ages before Pokemon. And there are hundreds more games out there that uses the same mechanic. Otherwis ePalworld is more Ark than anything. (Fun Fact Ark lets you "catch" the dinosaurs too. Nintendo want a piece of Ark Survival Ascended/Evolved now?) XD But since you even openly said you didn't play much Palworld (and it shows because you think they are super similar), I suggest you go play more because if you played even 1-2 hours of Palworld you can see how different they are, day and night.
@DelzaArmy
@DelzaArmy 4 ай бұрын
The amount of money pocketpair would need to mount a defense would be immense, something that nintendo does not have a problem with. I don't see them winning. They can try and make a point, but they won't win unless it becomes a landmark case.
@Fenris2
@Fenris2 4 ай бұрын
They got told get lost multiple times
@keeganlowe5683
@keeganlowe5683 4 ай бұрын
Well people are saying it’s about patents, I believe that Pokémon has the pokemon designs patented I seen that somewhere
@astolfo2305
@astolfo2305 4 ай бұрын
yea i just gonna use emulators for nintendo games
@aeli999
@aeli999 4 ай бұрын
There's competition and then there's straight up copying with slight stylistic changes. And even if it isn't about that, if Nintendo doesn't enforce their patent or IP rights or trademarks or whatever, they could and mostly likely would lose those rights. That's one of the reasons Disney (besides being jerks) is so zealous about anybody making money from any of their characters, except ali express which I guess they can't do anything about. And Etsy, which is another story altogether.
@GenetheOutlaw404
@GenetheOutlaw404 4 ай бұрын
They knew exactly what they were doing. They f'd around now they're gonna find out. They made a parody game that got more popular than they expected and got the attention of poketendo. Now of course I hope pokemon take away a valuable lesson that fans will flock to other creature capture games if they don't step up their game. But we all saw this coming.
@HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff
@HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff 4 ай бұрын
While Nintendo can't sue Palworld for the idea of capturing monsters in balls, as concepts can't be copyrighted, a lot of designs do make me think they went beyond "inspired by".
@carlomolina7858
@carlomolina7858 4 ай бұрын
Ironic since the former was the actual reason for this lawsuit (patents).
@MegaDman16
@MegaDman16 4 ай бұрын
It's the exact opposite of what you said. It's a patent lawsuit because of how the pal spheres work in the game. Nintendo couldn't sue them because of the designs. Nintendo apparently has a patent for the concept.
@Ghghost43
@Ghghost43 4 ай бұрын
​@MegaDman16 so then changing the spheres to be more visually distinct like making them cubes or something should be fine then?
@x3SayuriChan
@x3SayuriChan 4 ай бұрын
@@Ghghost43 Sadly no. That specific patent is about any item thrown at a creature in the field to capture it or initiate battle. So no matter what they'd change the Palspheres to, Nintendo tries to have a monopoly on throwing objects at creatures basically. Which is just ridiculous.
@yulfine1688
@yulfine1688 4 ай бұрын
​@x3SayuriChan that's not even globally legal only in japan.. they could just force it to international instead and Nintendo would lose. In fact I'm more surprised the world allows Japan to get away with that because it's a major issue. Then again we let China get away with breaking just about every law. Ontop of that why now? When the game isn't even sitting with a high player count anymore? Seems strange outside of trying to grab money
@adel18able
@adel18able 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo is the sore loser can’t make a game like they did 😅
@alibenice
@alibenice 4 ай бұрын
Will they also sue Temtem, I wonder...
@ThatIcyElf98
@ThatIcyElf98 4 ай бұрын
Nintendo coming back to ruin everyone's fun😢
@deathmourne1
@deathmourne1 4 ай бұрын
It's all about patents man, recently submitted patents that are quite vague
@hungbuiart
@hungbuiart 4 ай бұрын
lol i knew it was coming haha xD
@almostfaceman
@almostfaceman 4 ай бұрын
Not into this game or pretty much any Nintendo game (since Donkey Kong - yes I'm that old) but still, thanks for the news. Have a nice day.
@Hexlaw111
@Hexlaw111 4 ай бұрын
I hope nintendo loses so bad !!
@thundertheloveable8841
@thundertheloveable8841 4 ай бұрын
there are switch 2 leaks going on Nintendo has better things to worry about honestly than this
@ninja1man4u
@ninja1man4u 4 ай бұрын
I hope the pocket pair devs offer players a go fund me for the legal costs
@DarthWampa_
@DarthWampa_ 4 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised based on how much the designs were pretty much infringing on Pokemon designs.
@HyouVizer
@HyouVizer 4 ай бұрын
a good amount of there were mixing like 2-3 pokemon or slight alt version. Plant dragon, goodra body, meganium face, and liligant petals on its head. Another looked like shiny eevee gigamax form.
@MegaDman16
@MegaDman16 4 ай бұрын
They can't sue because of the designs; it's a patent lawsuit, aka Nintendo suing because apparently they ''own'' the concept of catching creatures in balls you throw and carry around.
@Swatwolllfy
@Swatwolllfy 4 ай бұрын
I like pal worlds a lot
@TheGrace020
@TheGrace020 4 ай бұрын
hope nintendo loses
@lukestarford7608
@lukestarford7608 4 ай бұрын
I'm just laughing about this since there was so much cope from people who previously said"Palworld not going to get sued" only for it now to happen and now people are saying the new form of cope while still knowing nothing. Every Industry Artist, everything Industry freelance, every Designer and every University lecturers with a PhD under the sun came out and said "Palworld is going to get sued either due to copyright or patents" only for terminal online people to go "No It WoN't" as they cite a programmer who never work on 3D modelling nor got taught the basic minimum copyright or patents. A lot of the people in the Industry wanted Nintendo to act, wanted them to sue due to how Pocketpair promoting bad practices that will negatively harm the new industry for the worst, especially to Indie dev as Pocketpair aren't afraid to completely copy a game 1 to 1 but make a few Aesthetic changes to it.
@yulfine1688
@yulfine1688 4 ай бұрын
They didn't have patents until recently and now Nintendo is suing which is likely why Nintendo took so long because they couldn't do anything legally speaking. Because of Japan's extremely stupid laws that somehow the world allows depsite the fact they're required to follow the rest of the patent and copy right laws globally.
@lukestarford7608
@lukestarford7608 4 ай бұрын
@@yulfine1688 Except the entirety of the world also has patents which requires updating every so often. Especially, if your whole product relies on it in cases of physical objects. In Nintendo case, it was due to be updated at some point and if they are going to get into a fight with someone who broke it. Why not update their before picking a fight. Yes Patents can be abused, a lot of research heavy journalist on youtube brought up how company's where company has patents over designs that can create a monopoly within the system like with Nescafe and the Vape Industry which creates addiction. In video games cases, it depends on code of honour and the company. If I went and made a indie game with the Nemesis System or is inspired by it. Warner brothers will force me to go over to the US so then they can sue me into the ground. Nintendo, Square Enix and most games within the monster capturing genre not so much because of code of honour and how easy it is to have similar idea's. The game industry is a growing industry, preventing the games from being made just because we use an apple in difference way is going to hurt it. That doesn't Patents shouldn't exist, they exist so then people don't make uninspired games that blatantly rips or copies from different game with the sole objective of making money. Which is what Pocketpair is. People in the industry don't like them because they are spreading the wrong idea and messages. That crunch is ok, that not using repo's or straight out copying games without trying to be unique is ok, without a care in the world.
@Blood-Moon-Pack
@Blood-Moon-Pack 4 ай бұрын
they are doing it because they are afraid trashtendo is trash but its the fans fault so many games no one complained thats what killed pokemon they stoped carring because they say those losers will buy our game no need to worry and what do you guys get because i hate pokemon what do you guys get nothing new just some dumb cretures nerf of older once and new maps that to me is not a new game if it was world of warcraft and warframe woud have 30 games in 1 face it trashtendo simps they dont care for you they just want your money if they did care they will do what pocket pear dose give you updates on everything new not make a game and are like hers a game now give us your money we dont care about you we just care about your money im surprised they did not do a lawsuit on tem tem because yk that game is a creture fighthing game thats turn based
@joethehobo89yt24
@joethehobo89yt24 4 ай бұрын
The law on patent infringement doesn't care if y'all are fans of Palworld and if you have a grudge against Nintendo lol If their patent has been infringed, they have an obligation to protect it, just like any other business large or small. The entitlement in these comments is wild.
@QuantumNova
@QuantumNova 4 ай бұрын
This is them: "No Nintendo don't sue. Let them steal your stuff. Don't protect your IP's. We hate you. How dare your defend your IP. Yes, they copied 80% of the designs and catching mechanics, but don't sue." The consumers are literally 'crazy'. As a creator myself, I have to protect my IP. It's not optional, I MUST.
@joethehobo89yt24
@joethehobo89yt24 4 ай бұрын
@@QuantumNova them: " Wow, y'all have to play this new game! they took everything we love from Pokemon and added guns!" nintendo: "hey, please stop taking things from our games." them: *shocked pikachu face*
@utopiandystopia1383
@utopiandystopia1383 4 ай бұрын
the entitlement from nintendo fan man b4bies is much higher, as well as defending archaic japanese copyright law despite being rotund americans that have never been to japan lmao. but i get it, id be afraid of competition if i was incompetent too
@joethehobo89yt24
@joethehobo89yt24 4 ай бұрын
@@utopiandystopia1383 that was a long way of saying, "I know you are but what am I" Genuinely asking: do you not believe in copyright as a whole?
@utopiandystopia1383
@utopiandystopia1383 4 ай бұрын
@@joethehobo89yt24 i believe in common sense copyright law, which means the idea of a company owning a genre as broad as "animals caught by throwing balls" is absurd. its anti-innovation, anti-competition, and anti-creative freedom. moreover parody is (and should be) protected from copyright claims in most legal systems. supporting nintendo in this lawsuit is basically admitting that you want worse, lower quality, and less options to choose from as a customer
@HyouVizer
@HyouVizer 4 ай бұрын
There are loads of monster battle games, some even inspired being a pokemon-like, nexomon, coromon to name a few. But all these other games, their monster designs dont look remotely like direct pokemon designs. Thats the difference, some palworld monsters mix 2-3 pkmn design parts as one monster.
@ShWade
@ShWade 4 ай бұрын
You youtubers need to do your research before making videos the patents where just made in the past month. Nintendo is evil trying to make patents after a game has already came out to try to sue them because they couldn't do anything about the character design.
@joshuamogle8819
@joshuamogle8819 4 ай бұрын
Pocketpair is getting what they deserve.
@scanix100
@scanix100 4 ай бұрын
It was obvious and tbh they had that coming, because it was simply a theft and they should have sue them much sooner.
@Zymemaru
@Zymemaru 4 ай бұрын
No it wasn't. Stop jock riding nintendo
@takeyourheart1
@takeyourheart1 4 ай бұрын
I know people hate Nintendo and want to route for the little guy, I do too 99% of the time but Palworld ripped off soooo many Pokémon designs, it’s crazy. I’m not surprised Nintendo is suing. It’s sucks but Palworld really was playing with fire with those designs.
@DarkZodiacZZ
@DarkZodiacZZ 4 ай бұрын
They are not being sued for designs.
@eduardobenassi3072
@eduardobenassi3072 4 ай бұрын
Tbh, I'd do the same. I despise comfort in lack of creativity and rip offs. I'm all for respect and gatekeeping when it makes sense. The gaming industry is just lame nowadays, most devs are either woketards, or just mediocre, scam artists. I get and respect Nintendo, even though none of their games appeal to me and probably never will.
@intense103
@intense103 4 ай бұрын
Easy win for Nintendo, the fact that every person, youtube video or review said oh its Pokémon or its a Pokémon clone. The public have won the case for them. Anyone that enjoys Palworld, play it as much as you can as it will be shut down once Nintendo get there.
@talimancern7724
@talimancern7724 4 ай бұрын
You are joking right? It is a dumb patent lawsuit not copyright.
@intense103
@intense103 4 ай бұрын
@talimancern7724 patent lawsuits usually come with cease and desist orders. And Nintendo always will clamp down with cease and desists while claiming as much or nearly all profits made. It's pretty standard in patent law.
@DarthCrow
@DarthCrow 4 ай бұрын
Of course they ripped off Pokemon! And of course they should not suffer for it because maybe they were just inspired by it or something or, dare I say it, made something better than anything pokemon related that has come out in years.
@SirEvilestDeath
@SirEvilestDeath 4 ай бұрын
Palworld was fine and then they fucked everything up trying to launch on PlayStation so Nintendo decided to step in and show them a lesson. You can rip off Nintendo but do it away from their competitors or the public’s eyes.
@Davion89
@Davion89 4 ай бұрын
No you can't Nintendo is famous for sueing everything and everyone. Don't act for a second like Nintendo are in any way the "good guys". And no i don't give a fuck about Palworld.
@HoboWithAShotgun
@HoboWithAShotgun 4 ай бұрын
Good .pal world is barely functioning hot garbage. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet were terribly optimized and still were leagues better than pal world. Pc gamers are REALLY bored if buying something as bad as pal world is a decision they made ..
@AnonIllumi
@AnonIllumi 4 ай бұрын
JUSUS still playing pokemon in ur 30's
@MrHulthen
@MrHulthen 4 ай бұрын
true gamers play every type of game no matter their age
@theemotionalremix
@theemotionalremix 4 ай бұрын
Just because it's made for kids to enjoy doesn't necessarily mean it's only for kids. To this day, I still buy the McDonald's kiddie meal because it's tasty.
@AnonIllumi
@AnonIllumi 4 ай бұрын
@@MrHulthen TRUE GAMERS XD
@MrHulthen
@MrHulthen 4 ай бұрын
@@AnonIllumi truly manly gamerz
@AnonIllumi
@AnonIllumi 4 ай бұрын
@@MrHulthen SOME HOW I DOUBT IT
@LilBeaniebby
@LilBeaniebby 4 ай бұрын
Monster tamer genre in shambles rn /s How many other games follow the principle of catching a monster with a ball/device and training them to fight each other with skills out there? I think the genre is too broad to just be going after that, maybe the patents of characters they’re going after since it’s obvious pocket pair either traced Pokemon or fed designs to an AI generator to spit out the designs. Yes I know they released concept art and early designs, but those can be faked with AI now albeit not to a great extent. This is probably why I saw a meme of pokemon copying Dragon’s Quest designs earlier.🤔
@HyouVizer
@HyouVizer 4 ай бұрын
DQ to pkmn designs aren't 1:1 like some palworld monsters are to certain pkmn mixing 2-3 pkmn parts as a palword monster, that's the difference.
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