Nintendo LEGAL has entered the chat - Fan Showdown S2E5

[@SimontheTinker]

Luckily, the Triforce is not copyright-able as it is based on a Kamon from historic Japan and those have not been and can not be protected. It was most often seen in connection to the Hojo family. It was made to look like fish scales.

[@Isaacthemaniac]

Epic

[@Rysussybaka]

Your profile pic is two lines away from becoming the triforce

[@Methylene.]

It's also the Hojo family crest. a family who controlled the hereditary title of shikken of the Kamakura shogunate between 1203 and 1333

[@AnasatisTiMiniatis]

Unfortunately, KZbin's copyright policy has little to do with actual copyright law.

[@zachnerdydude6605]

@@AnasatisTiMiniatis You could make a religion outta this

[@mrpoki9]

Im Genuinely impressed by how many different designs people come up with. Love the Fan Showdown Series. Thx for making them

[@michaelcole7162]

This... I did not know I needed this series in my life til late last “season”

[@dzonib1]

Somehow i find this relaxing and interesting. Nothing my gf would understand 😂

[@TremereTT]

He made it impossible to call people to be fans! It's a desaster!

[@SeabornNomad]

What an awesome comment ❤️

[@ALifeOfWine]

I love that you're obviously reading the comments and improving the videos based on them. Absolutely cracking job dude.

[@thegiantgaming7592]

Love the profile pic in combo with the comment 😂👌

[@hamasathecold7842]

The spiffing Brit should make an exploit video on the fan showdown

[@802Garage]

The Extractor actually kind of sounds kind of like a tire rolling down the road. Somewhat pleasant.

[@LeoInterVir]

For being loud it did sound good. I rather have that type of sound than some of the other annoying ones.

[@Ari--d]

mercedes has entered the chat

[@AlexA-bx8jr]

My thoughts too. Definitely the least intrusive while being nearly the loudest.

[@843jack1]

the extractor design needs to be modified a bit on the blade angle and the sound will drop by a Db or two, but hands down it don't sound bad

[@DeadsTBD]

and it look cool too!

[@Power5]

LED ring on the inner hub of the extractor would be sweet for that glow

[@michaelh.9686]

1:58 Jesus Christ that fake Copyright takedown for the Triforce caught me off guard! I was like “NO THEY CANT TAKE DOWN THE VIDEO HALF WAY THROUGH WATCHING IT I NEED THIS CONTENT... ohhhh haha you got me”

[@hippiedude2232]

It got me too, I was just about to pick up my phone and proceed to freaking out when it cut to an advertisement.

[@lunapsebennarok6309]

Good... I'm not the only one......

[@hempwick8203]

i wasn't even looking(was in front of fan sweating / cooling off real quick) and it got me

[@dwdadevil]

Fun fact: If the channel hides or deletes the video while you're watching, you can still watch it, until it says "error 503"

[@nothxplsthx]

Hell yeah, appreciate the graph at the end! That extractor/turbo wheel design is very cool, maybe not best in show, but I love the utilitarian nature of it, and your idea of black pla/abs and a red glow would be nasty clean. Great work as always, love to see the constant improvements!

[@lesleymunro4964]

YES! a video on what software needed for designing, how to find/import the base template, and save/export our own design, and where to send it. I have an idea, but absolutely no CAD experience whatsoever. SO a "newbie guide" + some info of considerations for a design to 3d print succesfully, would be good.

[@AceBoy2099]

I completely agree on the "newbie guide for beginners" video

[@Blacktronics]

The drawing for the dimensions are literally in the description and it takes like two seconds to find free software to create 3D models. Fusion 360 for CAD and Blender for polygon modelling, for both of which there are plenty of learning resources available... Step 1 of learning something is by not being lazy and just doing some research on your own.

[@valentin0000]

It's in the middle of the night here in Germany _but there's always time to watch the fan showdown!_

[@WilliamAPBodie]

Moin North Germany here :_:

[@Donnerwamp]

Nachtschicht oder einfach nur wach?

[@zedrathzerathul9132]

Sweden here 😋

[@Automatic-Diaphragm]

immer!

[@byronvang5334]

France is here too

[@aquarist1]

Genuinely curious: is the Extractor actually "louder" or is it seemingly louder because it's moving air back toward the mic and meter instead of away like the other designs?

[@nachtmarv]

I don't think the extractor is moving air really back, but vomiting it out to the side all around it.

[@aquarist1]

@@nachtmarv True. I would be kind of curious to know if anything changes sound wise once it's on a rad, since it's one of the few designs that would actually pull down against the fan hub instead of pushing away.

[@LeoInterVir]

@@aquarist1 this is an interesting point.

[@laharl2k]

centrifugal fans tendto be louder because the air changes direction (from forward to sideways) and that causes more turbulence than axial fans. On the positive side, centifugal fans tend to be more efficient because of their design being more constrained than axial fans so its easier to push more air without back flow or stalling.

[@Dusty_Tarantula]

Aside from the noise. I wonder if you were to expand the top plate to the ends of the fans and/or increase the fan density or decrease the fan density, remove or add 1 to 3 blades, would this increase the proficiency of the model?

[@denniskaloudelis8863]

Curious to see how the Extractor would perform when used in conjunction with an A12x25 in push-pull compared to just two A12x25s in push-pull

[@samuelcox2339]

is there any way to obtain the .stl files for these?? really interested in printing my own Extractor fans for my build! love the car based idea :) love this series, so many creative things.

[@RavenBomb123]

Totally agree that the extractor would look dope in a build. Would love to be able to print some

[@rushilkisoon]

I’ve asked this so many times but my comment conveniently gets overlooked

[@Sainology]

[phone]

[@jonhille]

me tooo

[@shippy1001]

That would depend on the person, imagine if the designed FAN is actually pretty good and effective, that person can actually put a patent on it and make money out of it instead of giving it for free, so you gotta check if the person uploads their design in a 3D print website like Thingiverse.

[@autosnipa]

The, "copyright material" has the highest rpm of them all.

[@official_commanderhale965]

What, Royalties-Per-Mention?

[@garyg7145]

The triforce has little mass (comparatively) and a much reduced air contact on the outer ends of the blades. In other words there is no real drag on the rotating surfaces.

[@autosnipa]

Yeah makes sense, and I just thought it was funny.

[@loganthomas5043]

Anyone else watching a man talk about fan designs at 2 in the morning?

[@geraldfrost4710]

No! Not me! (glances at the clock) It's closer to 3 in the morning! I'm wired awake. The neighbor's dogs got into my chicken coop. Two kills, no carry-offs; the dogs have tasted blood but not eaten. I'm watching videos in the dark with an LED flashlight charging by the door, and a shotgun. And now, we wait.

[@lunapsebennarok6309]

3:01cst...

[@hempwick8203]

3 in the morning

[@TECHnoman753]

3:50am CST

[@Artholos]

The design of the triforce comes from an old Japanese daimyo’s sigil. Way back in the day. It’s identical. Nintendo doesn’t own history lol, not yet

[@meercreate]

Not only that, but Delta Machinery also uses the "Triforce" as their logo, albeit a blue one.

[@infinitumblack]

I love this series so much, and it’s something I never knew I needed in my life. I also like how with the triforce blade design the center hub ends up looking like the Mazda rotary logo. :)

[@Racingboom]

Even though my brain knew 100% that the section of the video wasn’t blocked. It lasted long enough that I questioned myself.

[@aligolbas7437]

Fan show down got me to your channel. It was a recommend video and now I have been every single one of your videos. Love the true, honest, and raw reviews.

[@ThaFedejp]

I want to see how you integrate some of the craziest designs like the tulip into a PC build

[@SumGuyLovesVideos]

I watch these as soon as I see they're out, before anything else. Thanks for some unexpectedly enjoyable content, never thought I would enjoy a fan competition before finding these :D.

[@LadyTink]

8:00 for some reason when you did the +10db thing, I was almost expecting you to have the zelda theme fade in XD

[@liberatorkramit]

Thank you Curtis and James for building the two designs that have been in my head for months since I started watching these videos. I don't have a 3D Printer, and I cannot bring myself to model something I cannot test. Just the idea of it bugs me too much, as much as I'd like to see one of my designs fail on this series. lol.

[@RichardLangis]

Oh the extractor is my jam. That would fit so well in a car-themed build.

[@802Garage]

Agreed. Very cool. Much retro. Many rally.

[@RickTrajan]

Exhaust fan maybe?

[@obedulloa6219]

I see this fan as a good idea for a GPU

[@fdavpach]

I want it just because it looks cool, creator of the extractor, if you read this, can i have the file?

[@RavenBomb123]

@@fdavpach I, too would love to have the file.

[@victoryfirst2878]

The question I have is triodial fan blades perform SUPER in water as a propeller. Yet does not really work well in AIR. WHY ?? Thanks

[@jsdb]

I actually like the sound the extractor makes

[@shift3613]

These videos along with the idea itself are very good already, but you get even more bonus points for listening to your audience. Keep up the good work!

[@joejia1410]

man this channel is amazing

[@MeGrimlock511]

Awesome channel, it's great to see people doing great videos about something so "simple" as custom fan blades :-) kudos for your creativity.

[@danagibbs3265]

I'd love to use the extractor, especially if it could come with LED's behind it. Then I could tune the LED's to change from red to yellow as the CPU gets hotter. Only problem would be having the reversed airflow of those fans

[@Automatic-Diaphragm]

well you put the fan outside the case :D

[@Timmycoo]

One of my favorite series on KZbin and it's silly but so creative. I love the ways people can think of such things.

[@alfepalfe]

Someone should make one of those 5 bladed propellers used on the later spitfires (but smaller.)

[@jonflannery8984]

Sweet content man. Will definitely be retro watching some of this series. Thanks for compiling and sharing with us all.

[@IdealIdeas100]

it would be interesting to see someone make one thats designed solely to be loud and obnoxious instead of worrying about performance.

[@bodhi_db]

Wait, why hasn’t anyone made an air raid siren yet?! It’s like a centrifugal fan but loud and obnoxious ;)

[@warriorzeke]

Go Walleye! I'm not actually a sports fan but it's cool to see you wearing a shirt from a sport team near where I live. Love the show, keep it up.

[@godzillapunk6261]

Right go hens too

[@danstone_0001]

Tri-force, naw, it's the AOL fan

[@TECHnoman753]

Omg lol yes😹👌🏻

[@thisguy3500]

Major Hardware's Fan Showdown is top 5 on my list of episodic shows. Can't believe I wasn't subscribed before now...corrected!

[@JathTech]

Just commenting upon entry... Saw video, thought "YAAAAAAY". My brother brought up this channel to me randomly, so your fan showdown is getting popular. Keep it up!

[@Kuria_zhaints]

Thanks for putting table on overall Fan Showdown statistics and putting the episode they've been showed too

[@wojciechmilczarek6051]

last time I was this early rtx 3080 was still in stock

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

Unlike 3080,s after 30 minutes it can still be obtained

[@nottheprotagonist8258]

liar, it has never been in stock

[@lelepao]

Heyy, now that you have most of the new stuff set up you could start using a wind tunnell!! - Shoe box with like plexiglass insthead of the top part and sitting on the long side... - Holes, on the top part, near a short edge and the case of the fan mounted to the other side, half-in-half-out - If put a "smoke tank" _on top_ of the setup the smoke will just drain into the box, hopefully even laminarly it's a super easy idea, dunno how it could fail, let's talk about it...

[@itsthorondil7608]

"This is the Tri-" *Ad.... Then copyright joke*

[@ArpheeC]

Keep it up man, its been awesome seeing how you refine the testing process over time from community feedback.

[@mincedcretin8473]

Love the extractor, is there anywhere where we can get the files to print these designs ourselves?

[@mattelieson4395]

I imagine the designers could always upload to places such as Thingiverse if they wanted.

[@fdavpach]

+1

[@jamescarruthers1967]

See comment above for stl

[@fdavpach]

@@jamescarruthers1967 Thank you, that's awesome

[@Redacted001x]

Have yet to see a channel do such a unique engineering challenge with its viewers. Congrats on finding a unique lane!

[@TheNitroG1]

"if it ain't broke don't fix it." (doesn't realize that is exactly what his show about redesigning a working fan is about)

[@yurisabrori]

If it ain't broke, break it, and then fix it

[@MajorHardware]

if it aint broke fix it till it is

[@TheNitroG1]

@@MajorHardware love the show man. keep blowin smoke.

[@thegoldengood4725]

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[@jacekjagosz]

I am amazed how well sound extractor works, usually fans that change air's path by 90° did really badly, while this is really comparable to a normal and could just be used in a build with almost no change to the temperatures, and just differeny noise profile.

[@johnsherby9130]

0:52 wait is this a clip that one of the people watching made? I think that was me lmao

[@NerdyTheologian]

I now want to design a computer housing that uses the Trinity fan (S2E3) to push air in and the Extractor to pull air out. I bet that combo would work wonderfully!

[@badbatch974]

Just FYI, at 7:09 the “fancy little glass thing that literally does nothing but just stands there.” is called a bottle and it can hold liquids such as wine, beer, soda, or even water and they are quite useful for much more than holding up fans off tables. 😉

[@NarutoMagicCyclops]

But it’s a fancy little glass thing that holds the fans :(

[@4WillyD]

Thanks for showing the board at the end. Makes a huge difference for us to know where each design falls in place.

[@joemama069]

this is a comment for the algorithm, don't mind me

[@a598373]

I too will comment for the algorithm.

[@erikburzinski8248]

Same

[@scofofsho]

Don't know what I would do if not for the algorithm

[@brucelouie2186]

algorithm

[@DanielBellot]

Let's pump these fans to the moon!!!!!

[@General_T]

I really liked that you put it more up in the air and also showed how the outflow of the air was. :thumbsup:

[@AdamHolbert]

You definitely need more exposure. I recommend trying to collaborate with a PC building channel because you have the quality of a bigger YT channel.

[@prydzen]

that would be cool to see some fan designs in an actual PC build on a different channel would definitely give him some traffic. I wonder if he could print it or resin it with something translucent though for the RGB gamer builds xd.

[@harujp2]

LOVING the new delta stat like quadrant thing! loving these vids man keep it up

[@HoloScope]

_Comment has been removed due to copyright violations_ _Copyright Holder: Nintendo Co., Ltd_

[@HelloKittyFanMan.]

James, I love how quick you are to act on people's suggestions! Another one that I'd like to to see used, maybe starting with season 3 (unless you feel really compelled to start sooner) is putting the RPM and CFM stats in with the others. In the current format I constantly find myself missing the first two stats for a bit as you describe the fans because for whatever reason, I don't expect a stat to be out before we see the spin tests. It seems sort of like spoiling the suspense. By the time you've just named the fans, we already have an idea of which ones should do better or worse in cooling -- that is, if we didn't already miss it by not noticing while we read the name and listen to the description. It seems like RPM and CFM should go at the end just above your temperature stats (sort of following this logic order: "It has this shape of blades and can spin this fast, and thus produces this blow volume, thus cooling the device this much." See what I mean?

[@ErilynOfAnachronos]

"I blame Nintendo." Nice. 😁

[@inachu]

I love your fan show down series because when you think of and create all possible permutations possible then we can only go onto the next step from there. Then 20 years from now we see these videos and think ... What the hell were they thinking! LOL

[@TophMaGoats]

“This fan has failed this city.”

[@pankothompson5903]

The bell house madness one got me thinking what if you put the engine from a low profile 120mm in the normal frame that would allow for designs to go across the hub without sticking out

[@danielrock04]

last time I was this early my girlfriend was on my bed with my twin brother

[@DoremiFasolatido1979]

That's rough, buddy.

[@kaneda4]

extractor could be of use for closed/non-mesh cases with openings on the front panel sides, like many non-"airflow" cases are, configured as the sides of the front panel would exhaust the air

[@Destructor429]

Dude! I get so excited when I see your new vids are up! I actually said ALRIGHT! when I fired up youtube!

[@keeperofthegood]

That was great! Seeing this without the table you can see the hub then becomes essentially the table in changing the ingestion patterns. That suggest different hub shapes (while keeping the blades the same) could have a measurable change in performance. Now, if that amounts to a hill of beans or not remains to be tested :)

[@lilithwingett9688]

The extractor would probably be absolutely amazing on cases with those flat front panels, especially mounted such that the fan exit was in line with those airflow slots at the sides - think nzxt

[@Runedragonx]

I could see this 'Extractor' working in a build with one fan on either side of the case, one fan pulling air in and one pulling air out, could be used as supplemental or assisted airflow

[@Felchii]

i would really love it if you added a link in the description to a spreadsheet of the current best fans and their performance. ❤️ keep up the good work.

[@wphanoo]

The extractor is pretty cool, by grabbing air from the sides it allows you to put the fan close to the enclosure without restricting air flow too much, useful in very cramped/small designs

[@jdpace4371]

I wonder what effect a tube on the intake side would have on the effectiveness of a fan. I'm thinking at least a foot of cardboard or pvc with an inner diameter that matches the fan. I'm also wondering about stuffing that tube with (or replacing it) with drinking straws to try and get laminar flow on the intake side.

[@noteprinter2224]

Awesome video as always James! Every time those designs surprise me. I don't know how much time does it take to make these videos but they are super well made!

[@eltorro]

Just discovered your channel. This is an amazing series!

[@atalarzyk]

I know nothing about computers or fans...but I never miss an episode in this series.

[@djwarner7144]

Been watching the fan series with interest. Reminded me of the Jimmy Carter days when we were asked to look at wind power. One of the aspect of performance evaluated was something called SOLIDITY. Wrapping your head around it was not easy from the math involved. Consider a windmill with a perfect efficiency. If it extracted all of the energy available, the wind speed downwind would change from some upstream value to zero. Thus air would pile up behind the windmill and block some of the wind flowing through the mill. So even though you designed a 100% efficient fan, you could never yield 100% of the available power.

[@KevinC2793]

The triangular blades did the Triforce in. The fastest moving part of the blade has the least amount of surface area to interact with the air. This is why most fan blades are straight, leaf shaped, or widen towards the end.

[@dasKeks28]

Expected the triforce to not perform well since the outer part where the blades spin the fastest and where the area is the largest, the blades are pointy. So the most efficient area of the fan is actually unused.

[@Mikeyy511]

In both season of the Fan Showdown I've noticed a lot of clumping of results. Maybe I'm making it up and it's not there, but I wonder if there are confounding variables. The first I thought of was room humidity. I wonder how effective the radiator is in dry vs humid rooms

[@mleise8292]

The extractor did amazingly well for an atypical design! This show is inspiring students to look into fluid simulation, and pursue jobs at air craft, car or fan manufacturers, I'm sure. :o)

[@MarkoDash]

the issue with the triforce is that with any kind of prop or fan the outer 3rd is doing most of the work, and since the triforce tapered to a point so sharply it has the least surface area in the most critical area. if i were to make one of these i'd be taking a close look at the blade design on RC EDF motors.

[@0r3n]

Would like to see the extractor in a push-pull configuration on a radiator. Be interesting to see if it would outperform a traditional fan on the pull side

[@c0ntagi0us_z]

1:09 "Nice". Haha love it. Another great fan showdown episode.

[@bryanwasnesky6554]

Yes please go through how to submit a fan and where the data for the fan dimension are.

[@Kags]

I really like that extractor fan. Only reasons I can see to not use it in a rig is 1. the sound, always important if someone finds it grating/tolerable/etc. and 2. The nature of it kind of means it has to be placed externally on the case right? You'd either need them pulling air in and spitting it everywhere, or else place it externally. Maybe in some kind of special housing that allows them to be recessed or something. Either way very cool, love the design.

[@dr.professoresquire7382]

Extractor needs the "Good Year" branding on it to get my vote, lol. Black PLA with Yellow lettering ;)

[@jdpace4371]

What about a collab with Cleetus -- Hell yeah, brother?

[@FracturedEquality]

Wondering if there is something you can print the extractor with thats lighter. I think if it was lighter it would pull more air cause the RPM would go up.

[@joek81981]

Best series on YT since Project Binky. Rally wheel in white with embossed Sparco relief lettering. Maybe some red nail polish in the letters? *Italian kissy fingers*

[@joek81981]

Also, I bet if you brought that gap down far enough on the face, it'll whistle. GL finding that sweet spot though.

[@deniaL202]

I think the wheel covers are also used for downforce in awd cars, not just for cooling the brakes.

[@LKLM138]

Those hubcaps/wheelcovers serve another purpose too! They suck air out from under the car, making a small vacuum and sticking the car to ground, similar to downforce. Maybe not so practical in dirtroad rally, but definetly a feature in low cars on tarmac.

[@KurticeYZreacts]

G*d d*mn... these are allllll sooo cooooolll fan fans! Great job! i like the von, the hub cap, the extra space the tri tri's... but the hub cap is clean af... i'm also a sucker for those boat fin, jet turbine, weird etc real life inspired fans

[@MrJay3333]

This is so intriguing, never crossed my mind fan designs can be so interesting

[@ironmonkeyl2552]

I guess that the rally cars that ran the turbofan wheels were loud enough (with the exhaust noise and that sweet, sweet turbo whistle) that they weren't concerned if the wheels made noise.

[@Anvarynn]

Also, I feel like the other half that makes the extractor actually work is the centrifugal force on the brake disk as well, only half the formula only half the performance

[@usf1man963]

I think the extractor would work well as a pull fan (obviously) with a decent pressure fan on the other side and could be used just for fun. be kind of cool to see it on the inside or a rad.

[@lil.shaman6384]

I'm definitely interested in the Extractor STL files, a nice black base with white on the "cap?" I guess would look insane

[@zamora3D]

Love the series. Keep em coming!

[@paavonurmi6054]

You should test if two counter rotating fans directly next to each other is better than one fan. (Kinda like a turboprop plane engine)

[@die4ever2005]

I think the triforce doesn't have enough surface area on the ends of the fins, which is the part that's moving the fastest, towards the center of the fan isn't as important

[@richm77]

The V.O.N. looks like a fritos corn chip lol. and the rally wheel one is epic for sure id run them. Great series once again.

[@psychosis7325]

Extractor!!! OMG, that is freaking Ballin! James is the Man! Add some code to make the lights gradually glow brighter under braking and that would make 1x really sweet sim rig.

[@NDKY67]

I wonder if I would ever have landed here if lockdown hadn’t happened. Who knows, but great idea for a channel : )

[@okaybuddyx2815]

I love u man, u always make my days better when u upload