Nintendo Music: Crediting Every Composer in a Review

[@Danominator]

Credit your composers. Even the fanmade albums I have on my phone of this music do that.

[@kadosho02]

OverClocked Remix, GameChops, Firaga Records and many more. 🤔 Wish Nintendo could follow that example too

[@Danominator]

@kadosho02 Not even that. These exact soundtracks that are found on this app were ripped by fans years ago. Nintendo can't even show them up with something better smh

[@kadosho02]

​​@@Danominatorwhen I write an article about vgm, I always do my homework to credit artists. Vgmdb is a gift as well. Connecting so many artists to their works past & present I totally agree, Nintendo needs to do better wholeheartedly

[@doniarts]

@@kadosho02 You know where VGMDB gets its info from? The CD that Nintendo release (with partners) that have those credits the same credits we even get in the games.

[@kadosho02]

@doniarts indeed, same with Sega. I recently wrote an article about Shadow Generations soundtrack. And only some of the remixes with credits are available. But hopefully when the soundtrack is released, it will include all song credits

[@Jodrik713]

7:50 But in the CD soundtracks released in majority exclusive in Japan, the composers are listed in all off the soundtracks (yes, not only in the games itself). I don't know why in this case, there's no problem there but here is

[@robkilbride9242]

Yep. Usually broken down by track too. And usually the arranger is credited too. It is often different from the composer usually in remixed but also sometimes the original versiom. For example Dreams of an Absolution is composed by Mariko Nanba and arranged by Tomoya Ohtani.

[@aaronw5264]

Really enjoyed the synopsis of each game's ost history. Its easy to love the music but not know the story behind their creation. Cool vid!

[@averagefez]

I dunno why people are so dismissive of something like this. I don't think wanting to see people recognized for the work they put into a project should be as divisive as it is.

[@ausgod538]

Because literally all of those are already credited in their original games.

[@averagefez]

@ausgod538 and they should still be credited if their work is going to be used commercially, which is what Nintendo is doing with their music app.

[@andrewoliver1330]

It'd be nice and I would prefer it Plus would like to search by composer as it grows Buuuuut still Its fine, doesnt slow me down from using it or being able to search online for the composer😊

[@NCozy]

​​@@ausgod538 Nintendo should still respect the hard work that goes into producing their music. They rather people associate music with their brand and not with the people actually responsible for making the music. (And if you pay attention this is a pretty common trend with how they operate) I get that the information is out there for people who want to look into it but I don't get why it's that crazy to want artists to be credited for the work they did.

[@donkeypong1847]

Sure but they do get recognized in the actual game credits and it's super easy and quick to find that info online so it's not like it's a secret or anything. Also it's an app that just launched. Now has any app ever been feature complete at launch? I'm sure the composer credits where not the top prioreties and people have probably been working hard to get this up and running. Anyway I don't think anyone is opposed to having composed credits in the app but rather are tired of of all the negativety against more or less averything nintendo related. People/haters always seem to find a negative way to spin every anouncement. Nintendo: Switch 2 is gonna be backwards compatible! Comment section: They didn't mention if it was physical so probably not, I knew it, Nintendo can't do anything right. Nintendo: Here is a free music app for members of nso! Comment section: You call this a musik app lol, where ar the effin names of the effin composers nintendo? Also why is it locked behind a paywall Nintendo? And why aren't every game you've ever released ready from day one Nintendo? Thanks but no thanks you greedy idiots.

[@javier64]

90% of the video is us listening to his thoughts (no lips movements) i find that fun for some reason

[@ConMenRDW]

As someone who was mostly listening to this video, when I noticed his lips weren’t moving I was SHOCKED. The work put into this video is excellent

[@bregowine]

Excellent piece crediting this amazing artists, while adding engaging and interesting commentary! Love the app so far, even if it isn’t something new… it’s just special to see all these childhood tunes in one dedicated, official spot. One can only hope Nintendo credits composers in it at some point

[@ryanvandenberg3119]

Great Video. It was very nice learning about the many composers and the various games they have worked on, as well as hearing your general thoughts on the each soundtrack.

[@raincastmusic]

Gotta say, I love the Nintendo Music app Ive been listening to “Wii Menu Start-up” on repeat Such a banger

[@MarioMasterProductions]

Bro didn't even credit the DLC composers for Mario Kart 8. They are: Kenta Nagata, Atsuko Asahi, Yasuaki Iwata, Ryo Nagamatsu, Asuka Hayazaki, Toshiyuki Sudo, Daisuke Matsuoka, Tsukasa Usui, Haruko Torii, Takuhiro Honda, Yutaro Takakuwa, Kairi Hamada, Chisaki Hosaka, Sayako Doi, and Reika Nakai

[@TicTacToeCraft]

Sadly, the BCP isn't credited per track as Wii U MK8 was. If I had to guess, the BCP "Staff Roll" was most likely composed (and arranged) by Daisuke Matsuoka. The arrangement of the Super Mario Kart Credits theme in the beginning always sounded very similar to some tracks from Bowser's Fury to me (especially "Plessie's Ride").

[@Monke80s]

0:34 "luckily Nintendo Music is not a limited release" Tell that to the many countries where the app isn't available because they geolocked it.

[@nhodgie]

Really? Assume it's related to the Nintendo Switch Online requirement?

[@halycano]

@@nhodgiethis is actually not true. I had to download the app from a Japanese Google Play Store Account, and entered my US Nintendo Account; the app accepted it just fine.

[@Monke80s]

@@nhodgie It's just not available to download on the App or Play Store. You can still get it and use it by side loading it with an apk on Android, but it's not exactly an straightforward and safe process for the average consumer. On the other hand, iPhone users are completely locked out of it...unless you know how to sideload apps on iPhone, which is not exactly a straightforward process either, or that worth it for just the Music app you know. And it's strange 'cause their mobile games are available to download. I can download Super Mario Run no problem. And yeah, it's very probable that it's the NSO requirement, but I mean it's always been like this since the Wii for people outside the supported countries to just use a different country entirely. Not the best solution, but unless they get reputable distributors (as in affiliated with Nintendo and up to their standards maybe) for each country, I don't think we're getting anything in an official capacity. But once again it is very strange because they did support even unsupported countries when they launched their unlimited-ish joy con repair warranty support. Complicated subject plus it's Nintendo so more a little more complicated to top it off lol but yeah, just kinda frustrating haha

[@nhodgie]

@Monke80s yeah the joycon thing had to be global to prevent lawsuits in respective countries. My guess is that the NSO requirement to use the service means they can't legally distribute where its TOS doesn't apply. Don't know for sure but from what you're saying that makes logical sense.

[@Antonio-98]

"Get rekt Tommy Tellarico"

[@MrJechgo]

Rightfully deserved :p

[@DaneWorms]

Since Smash Bros. credits the composers, we’re probably never going to get it on app lol

[@Mario1080p]

All the original arrangements exclusive to Smash gets credited. Songs that get ripped from other games get the similar treatment Nintendo Music does here. Been that way since Brawl's Soundtest.

[@Spatu10]

I never knew Funky's Fugue was originally for Killer Instinct, that makes so much sense though

[@022107]

0:59 Dragalia Lost mentioned 😢 I still miss it to this day...

[@ConMenRDW]

29:58 LMAOOO Daniel this bit is amazing you guys need to use this during streams 🤣😂

[@YaBoyBen01]

I found it bizarre that they didn't add anything from Happy Home Paradise from Animal Crossing: New Horizons. Here's hoping they'll add some of these later down the line.

[@jclkaytwo]

I will never get over the fact that they didn't make it so you could extend stickerbush symphony. if there's any song that should be extended, THIS is the one

[@TicTacToeCraft]

I also realized this right away when I was skipping through the DKC2 album.

[@robkilbride9242]

I don't think new music was composed for the Kirby Cafe. The cds do feature arrangements exclusive to the cafe though. You might be confused because on the first Kirby Cafe cd he arranges his own tunes originally written fro Kirby Superstar and Kirby 64.

[@CarlMakesVideos]

47:10 Toby Fox's Earthbound Halloween Hack was not called Homestuck, it was just the Earthbound Halloween Hack or Radiation's Halloween Hack (Radiation being Toby Fox's old screen name). Homestuck was a different thing, and a different spinoff from that has a weird musical allusion in the Pokemon track, but I'm not an expert on either franchise, so I cannot speak to that.

[@StaceyUK]

Thank you for taking the time to credit the composers.

[@JEANS__]

I love Hip Tanaka, hes my favourite. I want more of his classics like kid icarus

[@TownDarling]

It’s such a shame. Just because Japanese standards are not to credit doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t credit people at all.

[@rayminishi689]

As much as your morals are pure and intent as a western person, it wont change the japanese mindset. Theres a reason the name "Japanese bubble" exists

[@obba40]

stop forcing your ideology on other companies or people. If the composers would have a problem with that they would say so.

[@Timotarius_]

@@obba40no they would not, you clearly think the japanese mindset is like the west but that’s far from it, the Japanese almost never say how they feel

[@Lumbago2005]

TF dose wanting an artist to be credited for there work part of an ideology? I don't think it matters what you "ideology" is. But anyone who makes any form of art deserves to be credited for it. Nintendo should be obligated to do so.

[@TownDarling]

@@obba40 I’m not forcing anything on anyone lol. Just saying my opinion about what is right.

[@guguig9746]

Kuddos for all the research! Personally, I never listened to Splatoon 3 music, as I didn't play any of the games, and wow are those tracks pure bops!

[@guguig9746]

The fact that you treat this app like a game made me smile, once I realised you committed to the bit

[@diegoarmando5489]

Amazing that Square-Enix literally credits creatively irrelevant crap like accountants and realtors while Nintendo isn't event mentioning something pertinent like the composer.

[@kieranking7173]

Except when they don't.

[@donkeypong1847]

Nintendo lists the composers in the actual games credits tho

[@ausgod538]

Nintendo literally credits composers in all of their games. Nintendo music is one thing.

[@jclkaytwo]

"I love spreading misinformation over the internet" the above two replies are correct.

[@diegoarmando5489]

@@jclkaytwo I was talking specifically about the subject of this video, that being Nintendo Music. Nintendo obviously credits their composers in game.

[@Leon-pg1bh]

Can we please acknowledge the effort Daniel put in to have him seen acting out his script in front of a camera?

[@deGoomyan5538]

Hitomi Sato is so underrated! Love her works in diamond and pearl and platinum

[@goldmemberpb]

No xenoblade ost is a grave crime. I consider XC1 ost to be a once in a decade soundtrack. I think there are 2 tracks in the game that dont immediately grab you.

[@SUPERCLUBVIDEO]

this is AMAZING. thank you so much for doing what nintendon't.

[@KollegeJansen2]

Great, hard and very important work. Thank you!

[@wandererofclouds]

That is by far the best way you encourage your viewers to subscribe to the channel. That Wii Sports warning sign after discussing Wii menu music was a sublime advert transition. The presentation of this video is pretty perfect overall, although there are a few mistakes I noticed. Still, a great video with an engaging theme of all thoughts heard, no lips moving.

[@ArtOnDaytime]

22:02 I wasn't on board with the miming in this video at first, but this got me.

[@cjt217]

I'm excited for Daniel to have monthly updates for this app 😊

[@jimsface]

This is such a cool video

[@oOPrettywinxOo]

Ok but we all know what this app needs almost more than anything: The Xenoblade Chronicles Soundtracks. Those are genuine masterpieces. I say this as someone who shilled 50 bucks on a Xenoblade 2 Soundtrack CD recently when she went to Japan, cause I had lost all hope of Nintendo ever providing them for me digitally. I even had to borrow my dad's external disc drive so I could eventually put the files on my phone. And then manually rename every single track because my phone displayed all the Japanese as "????" by "????" from the album "???????????". Oh yeah I forgot to mention - those tracks did have the composer names in the files. So there is that. I don't know if it's a Japan thing as much as a Nintendo thing, because all game soundtracks on spotify do credit their composers as well. And in my JRPGs, they usually are pretty high up in the credit roll too. So yeah..

[@Terranigma23]

Nintendo seems to don't own the soundtrack of these games. The proof ? You can buy them in physical format and Nintendo would never approve that ahah.

[@oOPrettywinxOo]

@Terranigma23 uh I mean... the CD has a Nintendo logo and all. I doubt anyone could sell a soundtrack using Nintendo's IP without Nintendo's explicit approval. Even if Nintendo did not own the Soundtracks, they do own the drawings that are all over the CDs. Not to mention the same store had a physical Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Soundtrack, and that undoubtedly belongs to Nintendo. 😅

[@Terranigma23]

@@oOPrettywinxOo I'm talking more about the Xenoblade Trinity Box. Not something like collector edition from the games.

[@doniarts]

@@Terranigma23 Nintendo's copyright is on the website for that one so just cause someone else is licensed to distribute it does not change the fact that they own it.

[@oOPrettywinxOo]

@Terranigma23 what I am saying is I bought a soundtrack, not a limited edition of the games, and there is drawings of the characters all over that soundtrack box and CDs... so yeah

[@heroic_teddy]

This was great, Daniel!

[@bcg407]

I expected the visual component of this video to be lacking based on the subject material. Great job!

[@kivideogames]

Thanks for caring, bro. It should be mandatory to have composition credits on Nintendo Music. Maybe soon...

[@Kniffel101]

34:21 But the tracks have the transitions integrated. =O Taking Big Blue for example, it smoothly fades into the 3rd lap track! So yeah, people who listen to the app, _can_ know that the sax goes hard in this track! =D

[@robkilbride9242]

Forgotten Land got a cd release recently so they probably want sell as much of the cd as possible before it shows up on the app.

[@Guitarist500]

I’ve been making playlists of the composers

[@ssasdddddt]

Cool video, even if it wasn't really clear to me what it was about at the start. I'd love to see a vid where you hear everything you talk about AS you're saying it, as you've sometimes done in this vid.

[@C_Arson]

I know this isn't a game, but I really want to see the Kirby Cafe OST come to this app at some point. I've heard a number of the tracks through unofficial KZbin uploads (which inevitably get taken down of course), and they sound great! They made tracks like Zero-Two and Galacta Knight's battle themes sound shockingly good as cafe music. More international fans should be exposed to these gorgeous remixes.

[@PowerfulMint]

Daniel once again delivers

[@Skipler-J320]

An account with Nintendo, and an active NSO subscription

[@yubalesquer8495]

The only reason I believe they chose the Game Boy version of Dr. Mario is because the Melee remix of Fever is based on that version, as it has a small bridge before looping that the NES version lack.

[@MacungieSun]

I want Wario Land 4 on there just so they can add all those weird ambient in-game CDs you collect

[@TeamSoraPresents]

I'm hoping they can add as much of the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate soundtrack to the app. It's probably not gonna happen, considering both the sheer amount of tracks and licensing agreements that went into it.

[@fernando98322]

5:51 on my android phone I do have the option to share playlists, you get an URL you need to share but I haven't tested if it works

[@rtyuik7]

on one hand, i can definitely side with the 'Internet Backlash', because these composers put a lot of effort into making these worlds come to life through the music that plays in the background-- way too much effort to just be blanketed under "it's Nintendo's Music now"... ...but on the other hand, i also dont need Credits to be on Absolutely Every Product ever (like with Remastered/Remade games-- a simple "thanks to the Original staff" is all i need, not an entirely-seperate credits sequence that ive already seen), and when a game has a soundtrack thats interesting enough to listen to outside of the game, then im always able to do My Own research...for example, since i enjoy Koji Kondo's work in the Zelda series, i already know that he also did a lot of Mario and StarFox games...same way i'll "follow" a band's members, even if they leave/break up the original band (like, because i listened to Nirvana, i was quick to latch onto the Foo Fighters, because of Dave Grohl...for example)

[@robkilbride9242]

It's not likely the highest quality possible. That would be either a cd or a lossless file.

[@aaronTGP_3756]

Even if Japan's standards say composers are second to the company, and Nintendo wishes not to break the mold, they should at LEAST put in the names of the specific game's composers, like they already do in the credits of those games.

[@workinprogress8978]

0:21 "Unlike other titles, you do need a Nintendo Switch Online account to play." 1:29 "This title is completely free-to-play." My brother in Christ, these two statements are mutually exclusive. Just because there aren't any in-game payments, doesn't make the app free-to-play. You still need to pay a yearly subscription fee to even have access, lol.

[@Greekanese31]

The logic doesn't follow bud. Nothing is free because your parents paid for the healthcare that birthed you. Free-to-play-ness is evaluated on what is intrinsic to the application

[@workinprogress8978]

@@Greekanese31 The fact that you can't access it without a paid subscription account IS intrinsic to the application, but I understand it is different from stuff like gacha in-game purchases contained within the app itself. Still doesn't make it completely free-to-play if you need a paid subscription to use it at all. That is subscribe-to-play.

[@EPS5000]

The Playtest was pretty fun, I miss it.

[@birdflox1337]

One of the issues with all the credits stuff is... who do you or do you not credit for these songs? Crediting composers is one thing, will you add all the individual musicians and singers too? The CDs often do that in the booklet, but of course you'd need to find a new way to implement that into a phone app in a way that doesn't look chaotic.

[@RedKing12000]

6:36 Or sometimes, it simply doesn’t. Load. At all.

[@gloop898]

I honestly wouldn't mind a slightly slow drip feed of tracks if they bothered to credit the artists. The lack of that is the biggest issue I have with the app

[@manuel0578]

How is it free? You have to pay for Nintendo online.

[@Inksploded]

Whats next no credit to game devs, the next smash will just have in the credits "Nintendo" not even sakurai

[@awesomieRee123]

Dope ass video

[@matthewmagnani2915]

Fans doing what Nintendon’t. Why am I not surprised? Seriously though, thank you for doing this.

[@laggalot1012]

You can submit feedback to Nintendo through the app! I've done so myself already. I praised the functionality and convenience of the app and all at no additional cost past the NSO subscription, while voicing my interest in composer credits and the hope they'll increase selection quickly. There's no saying if it will make a difference in the end, but the odds will always be better if you do, so if you feel strongly that there should be change, let them know! (Politely!) You never know, maybe they can be persuaded, eventually... ...I can't help but feel the way you're presenting this video is a bit... strange. You talk about the app like it's a game, and the face-cam just... doesn’t seem to serve a purpose other than to be distracting? Since it clearly has nothing to do with the voice recording, I mean. I can't tell if it's supposed to be funny or what, but I don’t think it works to the video's benefit.

[@robkilbride9242]

It's pronounced Reekard Vahgnair.

[@The_Ostrich]

Here are some exciting news: SamusHunter teased a announcement for this week, heavily implying it to be Silksong.

[@SUPERVEGETTO92]

HAHAHAHAHA NICE JOKE SILKSONG HAHAHAHAHA

[@Gemma-Majoran]

samushunter is a fake brother

[@CrowTRobot]

Be careful. SamusHunter has been outed multiple times as a fraud and is wrong over 90% of the time.

[@obba40]

no

[@dizzyhungry]

how in the world is he talking without talking

[@tobiasarevalo9929]

Why are you talking about this like its a game?

[@seangibbz]

While I generally enjoy your content, certain parts of this script read as generated by AI. Notably referring to "gameplay" and "playable features" seems weird for a music player app. As well as a few oddly-worded statements such as "on the title screen there is a warm welcome and greeting". It's like you typed "create a video script for a review of the following game" followed by copy/pasting the Nintendo Music press release.

[@nachito9380]

E

[@ErikSchuessler]

I completely disagree with the sentiment to not get angry on someone else's behalf for something like this. It's absolutely shameful to not credit artists and their craft. If that's an extension of historical discrediting in Japan, it makes it no better. In fact, it makes it much worse. I appreciate the video and the information, but the thesis should be that Nintendo is a soulless corporation that are only as successful as the artists they employ. There needs to be more pressure on them to make change and do right by those artists before they are gone forever and their legacies are boiled down to fucking 'Music by Nintendo'.

[@obba40]

I guess im the only person on earth who doesnt care about this.

[@Asf_932]

Awesome

[@yamakingz2]

You are so special 😂

[@donkeypong1847]

People just like being angry nowadays espeacially when it comes to nintendo news. They always find a way to spin everything negatively. Nintendo credis the composers and all the musicians in the credits of their games and it's super easy to google and find that information if you are interested. It wolud be neat to have that information on the app of course and maybe it's something they will add later.

[@WohaoG]

Wow!!! You're so cool for this!!!! And _sexy_ !!! Marry me because you don't think creators deserve recognition which is so unique and cool!!!!

[@obba40]

@@WohaoG i didnt say that

[@_Pike]

This guy says words weird