Nintendo's Reveals Melee/Ultimate Circuit - My thoughts

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

Wow, no dislikes, people must really like this guy!

[@Yaeven]

I'm very surprised he doesn't have exactly 864 likes vs 3.1k dislikes on this video as of now! He might be a better guy than I thought!

[@mando2975]

ZeRo dislikes

[@likeaboss6775]

Ah well here we go again

[@AtomIsTooTiredToStream]

@@mando2975 *Leffen playing trolling music in the background*

[@robertoquispe124]

This man does not have the balls to face the situation and give us an explanation, he believes that disabling the comments on twitter and twitch will save him, really what a disappointment with this man.

[@anitamann9217]

@@succrse7235 so accurate

[@cloudstrife7566]

Some people never change. He was a pos at the start of his career and he still is.

[@Ch3ato]

What happened? I am a bit surprised about all the comments could someone please explain?

[@tuanisthename]

i am laughing so hard at this

[@tuanisthename]

leffen drove a man to suicide. look up technicals zero

[@jankspanky1793]

Suicide is preventable. If you are having thoughts of suicide, tell someone and seek mental health support. Reach out to someone you trust. Talk to a friend, family member or counselor. Tell them how you are feeling. The first step to getting help is to let someone know how you are struggling. This is not a sign of weakness; it's a solution to a problem experienced by many all over the world. You are not alone.

[@gs1268]

Wh-what

[@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot]

Ok

[@kap5189]

@percival no they wouldn’t bro, you can do alot

[@chairman96]

me when i miss my ledge dash

[@raleck2991]

I mean you are right but the fuck?

[@triffen7174]

How is this guy just ignoring everything and nobody in the smash community is coming after him? Unreal.

[@HotFootBunny]

He fan's defending him too, smh I hate the smash community, like why do they have such big double standards

[@SubliminaIMessages]

He knows his dumbass fans and the community will protect him

[@10TimesKai]

The same people top players/community leaders who preach about toxicity and creating a more welcoming community still fuck with Leffen then expect us not to see the hypocrisy in it all

[@flarigrar7114]

I've seen nothing but everyone going after him

[@ACE112ACE112]

What's going on?

[@diobrandon8649]

How is this guy just ignoring everything and nobody in the smash community is coming after him? Unbelievable Absolutely Ridiculous.

[@WeldonSirloin]

The nu melee community in a nutshell. Disgusting.

[@PLFBEZ]

I went after him he sent twitter police on me cuz he was a scared victim

[@tuanisthename]

bro dont victim blame you went after him

[@PLFBEZ]

@@tuanisthename I was blocked by him way b4 the zero shit went down. Don't make assumptions lol they are the mother of all fuck ups

[@Yoshixandir]

Well in techinicals video a melee player did confirm theres some kind of protocol about when he makes a video. So many of them are choosing silence but that's just making things worse since basically the whole code of conduct bs is potentially trues since every commentstor who criticizes technicals stance ALWAYS ignores that part

[@000Brianna]

me when i assist in creating and spreading fake life ruining allegations

[@juanmjx]

ZeRo ACCOUNTABILITY from this guy.

[@zephronic1062]

Pun intended?

[@JayFalcon-y9m]

I see what you did there!

[@PlayThenReview]

HAX WAS RIGHT

[@WardofSquid]

*Him disabling comments on Twitch and Twitter* , and avoiding to address his actions is a *Clear declaration* of remorseless behavior. He knows what he did & doesn't care at all...

[@fahim2jz529]

what did he do

[@BenjoCovers]

@@fahim2jz529 He made up sexual harassments allegations to get rid of at the time nr1 smash content creator zero, which lead into zero getting canceled, demonized and attempted suicide

[@nfa_copium2479]

Hax$: they called me a psychopath.

[@GujinGod]

thoughts on lying about victim abuse?

[@YURTZYN42]

That face lmaooooo perfectly fits comment

[@sesh517]

based osmosis jones

[@jonathan6591]

I can't hear what he's saying over the sound of accountability looming over the video

[@yoshka1038]

Absolutely nothing happened at the 2nd of july 2020

[@nopenopenopepikachu5206]

I'm wondering if people will make an outcry on Leffen about the technicals video on Zero.

[@mbabaneamputee7725]

My 26th birthday happened 😊

[@nopenopenopepikachu5206]

@@mbabaneamputee7725 Happy year late birthday then. :)

[@mbabaneamputee7725]

@@nopenopenopepikachu5206 thanks buddy I’m feeling oold

[@Bedrick]

+100 social credit

[@maskquerade3236]

HAX WAS RIGHT. HAX WAS RIGHT. HAX WAS RIGHT. HAX WAS RIGHT. HAX WAS RIGHT. HAX WAS RIGHT.

[@lazerboy4942]

Listen, I loved Technicals video as much as the next guy, and I agree with the vast majority of it. But Hax's video was near psychopathic

[@bengilman5188]

@@lazerboy4942 it doesn’t matter how weird hax was or how his video came across, leffen is still a huge pos and I knew it all along. I almost gave up all attachment to this shitty community because so many people still supoorted leffen. I can’t stand him and he is a truly awful person. I tried to say all of this last summer but everyone else was too stupid to realize. Fuck leffen go to hell leffen. I still love mango and Zain tho

[@Batman-yb7px]

“If They apologize for everything… that’s kind of a pipe dream” lmao that’s rich 😂

[@joelevy3042]

Exceptionally played.

[@terrydawson6799]

Hey buddy you going to acknowledge anything yet? Really shows how "innocent" you and jisu are.

[@crack4184]

You can't cover things and pretend it never happened Leffen. Do something, ffs

[@BlueLoveYT]

As much as I would love to hear both sides of the story before making a conclusion, your silence already says enough. Being silent asf on the situation is only gonna lose you subs bro

[@dance_alex_dance]

on what???

[@Jugobox25]

@@dance_alex_dance he basically lied about Zero being a sort of pedo and frame him as a bad person. Look up Technicals video on Zero

[@gishgoyim9170]

@@Jugobox25 Nah, I think Technicals fumbled on that one. You could argue that he isn't an active threat to children now, but he still at the very least had inappropriate, flirtatious conversations with a minor, which, to me, is unforgivable.

[@Creme_theDON]

@@gishgoyim9170 yeah but it's okay to push someone to the brink of suicide

[@gishgoyim9170]

@@Creme_theDON I think taking advantage of a minor is one of the few cases in which being pushed to suicide is based. If you're creeping on kids, you're kinda asking for some _serious_ backlash.

[@penchhi7904]

i wonder when and how this guy will try to play the victim on this situation, because remember, hax was right

[@craigmartin8468]

I’m not gonna stop coming into any comments he allows and bringing this up we can’t let the community forget this.

[@enigmere]

have fun doing this for the next years, because leffen, his fans and the majority of the real smash community wont care about your drama tuber stuff

[@enigmere]

@Tony Pepperoni who cares about 1000 random youtube subs? makes almost no difference in earnings and visibility and leffen doesnt earn his money via youtube.

[@dudechill6785]

@@enigmere how is any of this fun? its definitely right to call him out on his bullshit

[@questrequested9171]

@@enigmere except that "the majority of the real smash community" *does* point it out towards him wherever they can. you can say that "he doesnt care about your drama stuff" but he obviously does, since if it wasnt for him and his lies, this whole drama stuff wouldnt even exist...

[@ZeroFact0r]

You have more to apologize for than Nintendo. You got a reckoning coming, Leffen. You better hope you're ready for it, or start doing damage control before it lands. You and Jisu both.

[@CowboyTiger0600]

seems like jisu is already facing legal repercussion at least that´s what I understood by tech/zero video, we´ll might have to mass report his account and call out his sponsors to make them talk; it´s only fair, they did worse stuff

[@sentoworf]

lol

[@silvesta5027]

The worst part is, just ignoring controversy is the best way to deal with it. I’ve never once seen a large online figure make an immediate apology in response to allegations and it being received well. Not once. Letting controversy die down and only saying anything publicly after maybe 3 months or so, is the best way to do it. If I had to guess, that’s exactly what Leffen is going to do. Let the public mob die down, and then say something

[@itsatentaquil3152]

What Zero did to Katie is still unforgivable,no one can ever forgive the act he has done in the past but he's at least shown improvement from all that. You however, seem like you've never changed at all. The least you could do is address your wrong doings.

[@ryanrocha7286]

I wish I could ignore stuff as good as you do! Nice accountability.

[@hanswurst9120]

As far as I can tell Leffen fans have good arguments. As long as calling someone a 14 year old without any context, evidence or relevance counts as an argument now.

[@HotFootBunny]

Yep lol

[@NasiMack]

It’s actually kinda Hilarious how leffen is just brushing this off as if was nothing. Im not saying leffen is not at fault of the situation but it’s kinda funny to me how he is casually making a video and the comment section is flaming him lol

[@OMGthousandrelic]

Leffen Ignoring the controversy like smash players ignoring personal hygiene

[@pswitchfan2562]

Underrated Comment Lmao

[@jpetrullo6890]

CANT BAN ME FROM HERE LEFFBOI THIS AINT TWITTER

[@Hyjack2002]

That ratio is vile. I love it.

[@measlesplease1266]

What ratio?

[@Hyjack2002]

@@measlesplease1266 I think I made this comment before dislikes got removed? I'm not too sure. I completely forgot about this comment. Leffen is a trash person, so I'm fairly certain it's something to do with dislikes.

[@sesh517]

@@measlesplease1266 945 likes, 3.4k dislikes

[@measlesplease1266]

@@sesh517 i just see 945 likes and 0 dislikes.

[@lenarrapeur415]

@@measlesplease1266 because he choosed to remove dislike counter to the public eye

[@24Kssb]

Ratio + Don’t care + Be quiet (forever) + You put the L in Leffen

[@saadsharif1552]

Bruh 😳

[@not_emerald]

I agree with the sentiment and he definitely should say something (not that he is innocent, he probably isn't at all) but this is cringe.

[@tuanisthename]

that was poetry

[@BirdManJones]

Bruh

[@zephronic1062]

gotta hand it to the man, ignored the drama like it never happened.

[@wintersummer1633]

i think its cause jisu told him and others to not comment so that techs video dont get views

[@MostMorose]

What’s done in the dark will ALWAYS come to light.

[@diamonddude3713]

Your thoughts about this can't hide you from accountability.

[@pazminoa94]

You jealous of zero’s success

[@MostMorose]

That definitely was/is true, pathetic sociopathic narcissists like him and Jisu get jealous when someone has more than them and will try to do anything they can to destroy someone they see as a threat with as many slanderous lies as possible and that’s exactly what happened.

[@mogaku776]

Maybe racially motivated?

[@rockstar100ify]

Can’t believe I was ever a fan of yours. What you and Jisu did to Zero is absolutely disgusting. You can call Technicals an idiot all you want but he has proven to be logically consistent over and over again. He never defended Nairo and his video was the reason Samsora got banned. He doesn’t blindly defend people of the same race as his or anyone who gets cancelled. He’s proven that he only cares about the truth. Wtf have you done? Spread lies and fueled a suicide attempt.

[@aramisbetances572]

well put together my dude

[@ritualssb]

With all due respect sir… the reason zero was banned from the smash scene was the Katie situation, not the Jisu one. The Katie situation which technicals almost entirely ignores in his video while tearing apart the jisu situation to get zero accepted back into the community. You can think what you want of the jisu situation. The Katie situation is unresolved and not ok, and frankly, actions like you is why it’s so terrifying as a survivor of SA to come forward.

[@aramisbetances572]

@@ritualssb we get that and Technicals talks about it in a podcast with Bowblax and others but he believes that ZeRo is reformed, that's the point of his video was to explain that Zero doesn't have the desires to continue to pursue children unlike ppl like EDP who puts himmself in that situation continuously. Zero after 7yrs since that encounter has only tried to make positive impacts by creating fun content, charity, etc. That's why tech was defending ZeRo from Leffen and Jisu bc they tried to make him look like a worse person even tho he is reformed with a wife, and the fact that he almost ended his life bc of that and his wife. Tech also believes and said this in Twitter that Zero shouldn't comeback to the smash community for his mental health and security of others.

[@ritualssb]

@@aramisbetances572 I mean… my opinion is this. I wish 0 lll on zer0. I don’t believe he would harm anyone again. But he does need to have consequences for his mistakes. Not being in smash is that consequence. I hope he has success, but it shouldn’t be in the smash community

[@spudermoth]

@@ritualssb who made you the judge lol Wonder how many nasty things you've done in the past, because we all know that individuals who are excessively judgmental are usually the worst of the bunch.

[@mannymannnn]

Horrible human being just ignoring everything wrong hes done...

[@MostMorose]

He’s a pathetic sociopathic narcissist I’m not surprised

[@JudeSCM]

Man after all of this he’s just gonna ignore what he did and act like disabling comments and blocking people will save him what a pathetic excuse of a human being

[@matthiusnielson8868]

Good to see ZeRo back in action

[@Nazz2342b2t]

For anyone who cant see dislikes this currently has 1.3k dislikes Edit: 2.5k

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

How do you see them?

[@teeemo3445]

You can't ignore it forever dawg

[@kibbs1869]

Leffen when you bring up the fact that he made fake allegations against his friend being a sexual predator, causing his life to be ruined which drove him into nearly taking his life (he doesn’t like taking accountability anymore): 😢

[@xzczczcxzcasdsadas]

ill bet he removes comments on youtube as well

[@n8george]

Looking forward to the ZeRo apology.

[@dinglepuss8594]

God I wish dislikes were visible

[@canyounotmydude9155]

720 dislikes for me

[@imarg1128]

@@canyounotmydude9155 Why some can see and others can't because for example I can see the dislikes like you but it seems that some people can't that weird...

[@canyounotmydude9155]

@@imarg1128 they said that they are 'slowly' rolling it out. Though Linus Tech Tips says that he is in contact with KZbin and is trying to tell them to stop.

[@dinglepuss8594]

@@canyounotmydude9155 fucking awesome

[@MostMorose]

Over 1,209 dislikes so far

[@michaelrubino5897]

Can't believe he lied for this long. The community leadership became sick a few years ago I guess.

[@averyeastman5681]

!APOLOGIZE LEFFEN!

[@babster6856]

leffen gay also grab your popcorn this is a funny as hell comment section

[@nible8055]

I’m gonna have to trust technicals here since lef seems to have nothing to say

[@TAZERFACE99]

Address it bro

[@HeroponMan]

Please make a statement Leffen :(

[@resean2727]

Too bad no one wants you to enter the circuit, then again you might just ruin more friendships.

[@kylethompson4543]

ZeRo is back, and the community that once worshipped you is now giving you the same treatment you have encouraged on so many others. Justice is real, Leffen, and your days of avoiding it are over...

[@redlikerubes_]

Reminder that Leffen has no good reason to address this shit. Dislikes contribute to the algorithm just as likes do. Yeah he’s a shit person but he’s probably gonna get away with it (and I hate that)

[@Supahkaze]

Your lucky the dislike buttons gone reasons like this are why we need this

[@spaceriot23]

it's gone? what? it's showing on my yt app. he got 2k dislike lol

[@ethanharmon1228]

what's done in the dark will be brought to the light. you can't hide forever

[@aramisbetances572]

Imagine being a person who spreads lies to ruin ppls lives and bring them to the brink of suicide. How dare you harm ZeRo and Vanessa's mental health throughout the months for your disgusting behavior. There Is a special place for ppl like you.

[@xzczczcxzcasdsadas]

#HaxWasRight

[@andreelmatacoronavirusquin1322]

Just here to dislike

[@tuanisthename]

How is this guy just ignoring everything and nobody in the smash community is coming after him? Shocked and Appalled Redonkers

[@craigmartin8468]

Damn 1.3k dislikes. Just in case anybody was wondering.

[@xmarc360]

How do you see the dislikes? I thought KZbin removed that feature.

[@SmashuFlashu]

Some countries can still see the dislikes. They haven't recieved the update yet

[@NoNo-fv9pz]

@@SmashuFlashu lol I can its 1.5k now

[@Le0nVII]

And mind u the deslikes are getting removed to see lmao the timing am i right?

[@PsychoPatYT]

I'd be tempted to clamp down my twitter comments in this situation too, guilty or innocent. The amount of vitriol must be overwhelming. Can everyone please chill out until this man has had time to prepare a proper statement? K, sympathies over. Leff: move it or lose it. Even apologists like me don't have a ton of patience for issues this serious.

[@PsychoPatYT]

@@zomb7138 It takes time to prepare a proper statement in situations like this. People shouldn't be submitting silence as proof of guilt. But it is a super bad look the longer he takes to say something.

[@christomanci]

@@succrse7235 wdym pull an m2k?

[@aion425]

To be fair, he didn't give Zero time to respond before barraging him with accusations.

[@mythikai4646]

Well.... you've done it again. You pissed off the Samsh community.

[@themonsterking1538]

So anyways, anyone else excited for ZeRo's return?

[@cherryb0ng]

I don't know what's worse, yours or the smash community's silence on everything you do. I used to think that you've changed but all you've been doing is cover your tracks in a carefully studied and methodical manner.

[@beansmckenzie9162]

You gon catch these hands

[@maplemiles3381]

Leffen is a bad influence

[@aqualacerta3961]

I wish i could ignore my problems and responssabilities as good as you do

[@RubberD3]

oh now people start questioning leffen's character? There have been red flags for years

[@legacy9685]

I think they can ending up betraying the community, one thing that scares me is the fact that now they have a say in tournaments so if they want they can just stop it from being streamed

[@armorparade]

100% there is no good reason to give nintendo any hand in this until they show that they will remain hands off and let TOs operate on their own terms and thats never happening

[@kingarthur3236]

You know I would agree with you if they didn't already have these powers anyway. Nintendo has the legal right to stop any tournament from being streamed so being part of this isn't really strengthening them in anyway cuz they already have the strength unfortunately. Like they have always had a say in how tournaments are run because that's how stupid copyright law works

[@chuifongtam4703]

Given Nintendo's track record of shutting down Smash tournaments i dont believe this until I see it. It's like getting a poisoned cake for your birthday.

[@legacy9685]

@@kingarthur3236 yeah but now they get an inside look and have direct power over the organization and any possible streaming of the event

[@legacy9685]

@@chuifongtam4703 yeah to me is more like they're infiltrating the events and trying to get actual power over the internal makings of the tournament

[@tiorio9551]

Hax$ was right

[@ItsJustTro]

There's no running from it, just acknowledge it

[@qlalftmfjdns]

boy that dislike ratio looks real bad what did you do this time

[@MostMorose]

Exist

[@windwalker9800]

leffen ive been around for quite a few years now. ive been with you through thick and thin. please. im asking for you to at least take 1 bite of that toblerone

[@sunnycombo5275]

So leff u wanna talk about it, no ok

[@reap3506]

#LeffenLiedPeopleDied

[@pedermathiasbuljo]

Dont worry guys. Just here to dislike

[@gooseteeth5455]

I never really supported you for your past controversies but I always respected your sick plays. However I've come to the realization that the only thing that's sick is your head. How you can live with yourself I have no idea.

[@GAMERGO00N]

Smoking on Leffen pack, RIP Bozo

[@ELLI0TR0DGER]

Leffen is begging for dislikes to be removed

[@sure6411]

Leffen and Jisu biggest Ls of the century

[@dacolts89]

Technicals has an ability to recruit all the teenage smash no lifes under one vision. Leffen should have never made fun of their mains in Ultimate 🤣

[@OMGthousandrelic]

Some of ya'll really out here defending Leffen like what he did was ok. I aint defending zero cuz what he did what 1000% wrong, but goddamn.

[@Red_PlaysYT]

Dislike

[@BumblelinoV1.0]

Imagine lying about a person’s well being just cause they’re better then you at a video game. Could never be me… be a real man leffen, talk about the situation… #WelcomebackZeRo

[@questrequested9171]

lets be real here... even if he would talk about it, it would be full of lies anyway

[@PopularityTroll]

im sure leffen cares about ultimate

[@krizpyclips9270]

Don't go Leffen! Say "Fuck Nintendo!"

[@boribori609]

Welp goodbye leffen!! Good riddance

[@alithiumpk5373]

Death the Kid, you know how it is Hate to dismiss any mistake If it ain't right, then you must be kiddin' Joke's mislead because you now slippin' Oblique mind then I get a fix Simply blast it, it ain't a trick Just one click, then a second click Rest is oh my goodness, you're history! It ain't a mystery to entry Just that I'm not so intrigued Don't get it wrong son, I'm a sweet treat Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Have a nice dream

[@user-s9eu8ce9fw]

Guys, use the "return youtube dislike" chrome extension to see his dislikes again. It's at 3,1K dislikes from the time I am writing this comment.

[@lordiromusic8550]

Yeah nah, we on your head

[@megasmit]

I would be cautious too. Melee and Nintendo feels like a toxic relationship looking from the outside.

[@shadowpupp3t81]

I hated you for the melee stock ruleset at first but attacking my favorite smash player and calling him out with no evidence and almost ruined him and his family. Oh no your not getting away from this one leffen

[@tokisuno]

fun that i still can see dislikes !

[@BeastnButterfly]

Must be nice to still have a platform after defaming someone who’s a hell of a lot better person than you.

[@MostMorose]

W

[@timgroen1995]

I am legit confused as to what drama is going on. Can't find anything about it on google or reddit. Can someone fill me in?

[@aion425]

Zero came back. Technicals made a video accusing Jisu and Leffen lying for clout and almost made Zero commit suicide. Leffen and Jisu are now hiding. Or at least Jisu may be quiet because of the lawsuit Zero is filing against her.

[@bacheese]

Just.. don't...

[@MikeXeno365]

Damn you got ratioed

[@Iispj]

Everyone talking about leffen doing something to jisu or with jisu and I’m just sitting here in the dark. Wtf happened?

[@caretnose]

both of them propagated what have now been exposed as lies/mistruths in relation to allegations against ZeRo last year, even if the judgment of zero is the same, still being a danger to the community etc. they certainly were not contributing to an objective and unbiased judgment of him in the community, there has been no explanation or apology from either for the lies they told, whether they were intentional or not

[@th3on3thatb3atu]

L + Leffen fell off + Ratio

[@theconman5540]

Bruhhhhh STOP STAYING SILENT! CORNY

[@simongodbout1591]

Jisu is the viper, you are the poison. All of that because you needed that serotonin from that sweet virtue signaling. No proof or anything, pure slander.

[@Kazyek]

BASED original Touhou music catJAM

[@chairwood]

Hax was right