Nintendo Sues Palworld Over Pokemon (IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED)

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@umomo1947 4 ай бұрын

I don't need Palworld to win, I need pokemon to lose.

@DoruDexmon 4 ай бұрын

exactly this I remember seeing a video that says nintendo wants every monster tamer but pokemon in the dirt, even their fan made games, so if someone wants a creature rpg they have to buy the new official pokemon games (ItS ThE PoKeMoN CoMpAnY argument inbound) it's looking less like a theory and more like reality now

@JTRaptor1 4 ай бұрын

MORE (Sees More Palworld Guns and More Pals) MORE >;)

@michealangelou411 4 ай бұрын

They would've at least have a chance to win using the design argument Palworld is heavily leaning into survival games and doesn't have much gameplay similarities aside from creatures that you can catch with balls They *have* to have a secondary reason, whether it be one mentioned in the video or something else

@雪者 4 ай бұрын

Second that really

@driley1988 4 ай бұрын

I really hope palworld ends up winning. Why nintendo waited all this time to do it now?

@A_Ali173 4 ай бұрын

Do it when people ask the least I guess 😂

@SwampyThingy 4 ай бұрын

To build a case as strong as they could... I hope they(nintendo) lose.

@tylerbeans7096 4 ай бұрын

Pokemon needs competition to save it from mediocrity.

@brandonwilliams6119 4 ай бұрын

Pokémon had years upon years to make something with Palworld's scope and quality. And mind you Palworld's scope and quality aren’t even that particularly high, they are just more in line with modern standards and filled a niche that Nintendo deliberately left vacant. Nintendo/Gamefreak spent that time shitting out half baked games knowing it would sell because of the name attached, and rather than compete when another company tries to fill that gap, they resort to quash it with a legal hammer.

@Macktube 4 ай бұрын

This is why I will never support Nintendo

@xray96x72 4 ай бұрын

Nintendo... pls stop, you are making... you really are making me to hate you at this point but this is absurd

@AS34N 4 ай бұрын

what falls as fair use over there is much different then in america.

@itzkiblo 4 ай бұрын

If they planned on suing, idk why they waited this long. They also probably chose the least credible option for a lawsuit. They're claiming Palworld took their game design when Palworld is nothing like Pokemon. Palworld is a survival, base defense, open world, RPG game. I seriously doubt they can win based on capturing monsters especially since those monsters are used in ways they arent for Pokemon. Pokemon doesnt let you kill your captures or use them as slave labor. They also dont let you apply weapons to your captures so the simple mechanic of capturing a creature isnt nearly enough to win a lawsuit over. The only way i see them winning, is by using their money to drown Palworld in documents.

@DrCoeloCephalo 4 ай бұрын

I love how it seems everyone has become so disillusioned by how bad SV Pokemon is that all I see is people hoping PalWorld wins this case.

@HunterStiles651 4 ай бұрын

People have been disillusioned with Pokemon for a long time. At least since LGPE and *certainly* since SwSh. But those always felt like Gamefreak was trying to dumb down the series because they felt like they had to in order to compete with smartphones for the kids' attention. It sucked for older fans, but it was understandable. SV was different though. They didn't just make it pathetically easy for the kids they apparently look down on. They sold people a blatantly un-finished product, and the fact that it seems like they got away with it left a sour taste in peoples' mouths.

@Santoryu90 4 ай бұрын

Meh

@TheAbsol7448 4 ай бұрын

@@HunterStiles651I've fell disillusioned since Sun and Moon. I gave it a chance after finding ORAS to be a bad remake, but I really didn't like the map and pacing. I also found the music bland and forgettable.

@toottootsonicwarrior5777 4 ай бұрын

The game is also fun so there's that.

@A_Ali173 4 ай бұрын

Leave it to Nintendo to try and destroy Palworld after it’s already had its funeral

@DoruDexmon 4 ай бұрын

so, it's just nintendo being nintendo? not surprising but could you imagine what would happen if they win? they would go after every big new monster taming game because they would see it as free money and dead competition

@Regden1000 4 ай бұрын

What patent are they actually suing for ? Monster catching ? Survival strategy ? Can you even sue someone for a game mechanic(s) ? If they did that, it would be like Disney suing everybody that dreams up an imaginary princess or hero.

@cyberworld9000 4 ай бұрын

Yes, famously, we couldn't have any loading screen mini games for almost a decade because Namco had a game patent on them. It's rare the companies use them, because it's a grey area of copyright that make the company look bad

@Regden1000 4 ай бұрын

@@cyberworld9000 What the heck ? If it is the monster catching mechanic then it is bye bye to all pokemon like games, like nexomon, maybe even persona or digimon games.

@bigdogthehedgehog5906 4 ай бұрын

First Pixelmon in Minecraft, then Pokémon in Palworld, now this? What's up with that? Tell me Nintendo’s drinking too much Sake...

@HunterStiles651 4 ай бұрын

You say that like Nintendo treating fan projects as though they were a paladin hunting demons is anything remotely new or unusual for them.

@auracore-live 4 ай бұрын

They had over 9000

@gusty7153 4 ай бұрын

i was worried about pocketpair partnering with sony, but i guess this a smart move because then sony would have to fight on pocketpair's behalf

@antovald20 4 ай бұрын

It's throwing the ball to capture monsters mechanic. That's probably the patent

@driley1988 4 ай бұрын

The world final fantasy had that mechanic also.

@antovald20 4 ай бұрын

@driley1988 Yeah but it wasn't the main focus, but if not that then I have no idea what patent they mean

@samtime2711 4 ай бұрын

@antovald20 what about pet battle in the world of Warcraft, and how old is this patent?

@antovald20 4 ай бұрын

@samtime2711 As long as they don't use a type of ball to capture then it's ok

@Jackolantirn 4 ай бұрын

This lawsuit is probably due to Sony's partnership with Palworld into merchandizing. Pokemon Company is a merchandizing company, and while making a game that has characters that kinda look alike is hard to use (Pokemon, Monster Quest, Digimon, Yokai-Watch, RoboPon, etc), when you try to sell a plushie of a Pal that kinda looks similar to a Pokemon, that's when it gets rough.

@StarStarbreez 4 ай бұрын

the words kinda is mental when you have actual pokemon frankenstien monsters in the game they had arceus head on a body of another pokemon they had giratinas head on like a dialga body and called it a palmon kinda isent kinda when there are actual pokemon body parts being switched

@Jackolantirn 4 ай бұрын

The fact of the matter is that the designs are derivative and not straight copy+pasta. There are enough differences in the designs between Pals and Pokemon that it will be difficult to sue Palworld over them. If you want to have the opinion that they aren't derivative enough for you to find acceptable, then that is okay. You have the right to exercise your power as a consumer to not purchase Palworld. But as far as the court is concerned, we're not going to see a lawsuit over designs.

@MadMax-ii8gq 4 ай бұрын

Nintendo just scared that Palworld did Pokémon better than them.

@bigdogthehedgehog5906 4 ай бұрын

Maybe...

@itsthebrowneyez4745 4 ай бұрын

Exactly and I hope they lose!

@Lunapink93 4 ай бұрын

Except they didn’t, Palworld is if you took the fun out of Pokémon

@lewisbirkett4428 4 ай бұрын

Nah palworld sucks as much as modern pokemon

@ratedr7845 4 ай бұрын

@@Lunapink93 Pokemon is if you take the fun out of pokemon

@phorchybug3286 4 ай бұрын

This wouldn't be a problem if I didn't care. But then I found out THEY KILLED HANGYU!

@Alam_Gutz 4 ай бұрын

did anyone expected otherwise?!

@ClawVA 4 ай бұрын

As a diehard pokemon fan (you can probably tell from the pfp and what my channel focuses on lol) Theyre just jealous palworld is objectively a better game, actual bug fixes and unique updates, doesnt run like Just Cause 3 on Xbox One/PS4, The design is actually good, better mechanics, its overall better than S/V im still jealous i can't play it because it just seems like such a better alternative rn

@DoruDexmon 4 ай бұрын

you could try fan games, (while they still exist) there are some real bangers I won't get too specific because they're actively hunting and shutting down fan games right now but you won't regret playing some

@tajwilson2913 4 ай бұрын

Pokemon already tried to sue for design and failed as before release, the Palworld team sat down with Pokemon to discuss design, and they got the official okay, so any argument for using because of design is already out since Pokemon gave the legal okay. And even then, they sued when the game was released and failed cause of their actions.

@evilsock12 4 ай бұрын

no they didn't what are you on about?

@tajwilson2913 4 ай бұрын

@@evilsock12, specifics: Are you saying Pokemon didn't try an attempt before, and this is the first? Or are you saying the Palworlds team did not take legal action to bring a format of protection to the game?

@cyberworld9000 4 ай бұрын

Got s source on that? Not my understanding of how it went down.

@tajwilson2913 4 ай бұрын

@cyberworld9000 @cyberworld9000 My memory was wrong on the sue they dident put it in but they investigated and almost decided to but they held off trying to find more to sue as already the dev of pal world went over base front legals and in their comment on quote their confident this scesnrio wouldent happenen and from the looks of it that attemp to sue back then dident go through as naturally design wise if the pal and pokemon wouldent hold with the fact both company went over the legals. Also soruces this is during january so filters needed if you want to see it better as ign bbc nbc kotaku during january 2024. From their article's on the subject and how pocketpairs actions and response in january.

@dionysusmclaren12 4 ай бұрын

WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE MOBILE GAMES THAT USE THE ACTUAL IP! 😂

@tajwilson2913 4 ай бұрын

That is so true. Recently, they did take one down out of the many, but honestly, those copies are showing up like flies. Take one down,. Twenty more come in. I guess they rather focus on games that are serious and producing more money for suing.

@keithflippers4429 4 ай бұрын

Most of them are made in like China

@AuraLeafstorm 4 ай бұрын

Pokemon didn't invent the monster-collecting genre. Megami Tensei and Dragon Quest V both predate it. Anyone can make one and plenty of them exist. That said, it's still possible Palworld copied Pokemon's designs or game mechanics too closely. I don't know enough about the game to know for sure.

@Axle3000 4 ай бұрын

Mechanics not really, besides capturing in a sphere. As for design, Nintendo already swept through the game in search of reused assets from Pokemon. Everything is built from scratch or non-nintendo assets and different enough to evade legal notice. It's like if I made a yellow electric rat, named Mika. Nintendo couldn't sue me. Yellow is commonly associated with electricity, and an electric rat isn't a special thing they have claim on.

@AuraLeafstorm 4 ай бұрын

@@Axle3000 Yeah reused assets is what I was getting at, but if Palworld doesn't have any then I'm not sure what Nintendo's case is.

@atomiccandyboy5756 4 ай бұрын

Okey... So Tsubaraya Productions should sue pokemon bc the capsule monster are from Ultraman, is just stupid... But if Nintendo go that mental gymnastics then why not?

@sneakyzzkkk2778 4 ай бұрын

Palworld is more fun than pokemon

@MitchellNeville 4 ай бұрын

Unless you can show the actual case, I doubt it.

@MatthewCenance 4 ай бұрын

How are they having any patents on the game still? It's more than 20 years since the original Pokémon games released, what patents does Nintendo still have?

@cyberworld9000 4 ай бұрын

I'd have to imagine they renewed those patents every pokemon generation or atleast every 5 years.

@雪者 4 ай бұрын

It's not that I was surprised that this was gonna happen, I'm surprised that it took them this long to actually do it.

@WARLORD626 4 ай бұрын

Pokemon wasn't the first with the Monster taming.

@thechugg4372 4 ай бұрын

Atlus should sue Nintendo over Pokemon copying SMT

@keithflippers4429 4 ай бұрын

@@thechugg4372and Dragon Quest 3

@bigdogthehedgehog5906 4 ай бұрын

Ok, that's too far, Nintendo!

@Santoryu90 4 ай бұрын

I never even really cared about PalWorld but god dammit

@雪者 4 ай бұрын

Same here. I'm surprised to find this out

@Tribow 4 ай бұрын

Lawsuits take a while to happen, so while it could be happening because of the Sony thing, they were probably cooking this lawsuit for a while. They could also be trying to heavily discourage pokemon-like games from being made in general.

@StarStarbreez 4 ай бұрын

they are targeting fan made games so palworld was on a bucket list

@samtime2711 4 ай бұрын

But why go after pokemon like games now, It's not like there have not be a ton of pokemon like games in the past?

@DoruDexmon 4 ай бұрын

@@samtime2711 greed and/or jealousy (BuT tHeY'rE JuSt pRoTeCtInG ThE iP inbound) and no, I don't hate pokemon, I really wish people would stop using that to devalue complaints Saying: you don't complain about something if you don't care about it, you want it to get better

@Tribow 4 ай бұрын

@@samtime2711 Palworld has been particularly super successful. All other pokemon-like games haven't come close to Palworld's success. Kinda makes me wonder if this would have happened to Temtem or Cassette Beasts if they got super popular...