What is the VALUE of a HYLIAN SOUL? (Zelda Theory)

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Today we look at one of the side quests from Twilight Princess to determine what the value is of a Hylian Soul! Be careful what you wish for...
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@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
Gengle chillest cat in videogames 🐈
@giorgiogiovannimattio3276
@giorgiogiovannimattio3276 5 жыл бұрын
Not for hating, but I don't think that Hirule's and Termina's values are necessarily related. (Also, sorry for the grammar)
@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
@@giorgiogiovannimattio3276 No worries! You have a point, which is one of the reasons I settled with a value of 50 rupees
@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450
@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 5 жыл бұрын
Like "yo' bro, thanks for passing by, I'm good here, take some gold, no worries, pass by whenever you have the chance".
@q_likes_bugs
@q_likes_bugs 5 жыл бұрын
NBC, I fully expect a theory on the new BoTW trailer
@Korulisk
@Korulisk 5 жыл бұрын
NintendoBlackCrisis Diamonds are “rare” sure in reality it’s one company that just controls where all diamonds go and how many
@KiomonDuck
@KiomonDuck 5 жыл бұрын
Diamonds are the most common gemstone in the world. Rubies sapphires and emeralds are far more valuable when the gem market isn't involved.
@ThePopeofPoland1
@ThePopeofPoland1 5 жыл бұрын
The value of the stones comes from a marketing campaign claiming if a man doesn't spend a months wages on a diamond for his wide then he is not worth marrying
@WolffangLightwood
@WolffangLightwood 4 жыл бұрын
Artificial scarcity is the reason why diamonds are so expensive because the families that own the worthless gems keep the supply low to maximize the amount they can sell them for
@miquelmoorrees6010
@miquelmoorrees6010 3 жыл бұрын
Yup with exception of some specific diamonds of course but it's a scam
@keiyakins
@keiyakins 2 жыл бұрын
Decent sized diamonds without significant flaws are more rare, it's not like without the marketing they'd be priced like industrial diamond. Still inflated massively though.
@Chris-gx1ei
@Chris-gx1ei Жыл бұрын
You can even create thek artificially with high pressure, high temperatures and some Carbon. But these wouldn't be nice for being used as jewleries, therefore you can use these for tools instead
@owenmckenzie4145
@owenmckenzie4145 5 жыл бұрын
“3,000 rupees is a lot” BOTW rupee grinding: 🤣
@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
"Am I a joke to you?"
@owenmckenzie4145
@owenmckenzie4145 5 жыл бұрын
NintendoBlackCrisis Well yes, but actually no Great vid btw
@livipup
@livipup 5 жыл бұрын
Breath of the Wild takes place waaay in the future when the value of the rupee has dropped due to inflation. It's like how $100 was a lot to our grandparents but $100 is almost nothing to us
@redx4401
@redx4401 5 жыл бұрын
You can't say you've truly grinded rupees in botw until you have atleast 100,000 rupees.ive done it A small price to pay for salvation
@livipup
@livipup 5 жыл бұрын
@@redx4401 I like to collect apples from this one orchard I found, bake them, then sell them
@andrewcogdillcole3826
@andrewcogdillcole3826 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, I understand that there are 60 Poes in the game, which would make them common, but the game made it pretty obvious that there wasn't many people in Hyrule capable of finding these spirits, let alone killing them to collect their souls. I mean they cant even be interacted with unless you're wolf link. Wouldn't that mean that poes souls would be super rare and thus super expensive?
@courtney-baker
@courtney-baker 5 жыл бұрын
Nah cost comes from demand. What the hell do you do with a Poe soul?
@andrewcogdillcole3826
@andrewcogdillcole3826 5 жыл бұрын
PieGuyonline ! That would be the case in LOZ OoT and LOZ MM, however there is no market for Poe Souls in Twilight Princess. That's why this video and my question were made. There can't be a market for something that as far as, we the players know, is impossible to attain unless you're a supernatural wolf boy. Not many people get to be one of those
@Boko
@Boko 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder who he actually sold his soul to, I mean he just references a dark creature, so it could be anything. It could possibly be a Twili, as they are prominent in this game, but he says he sold it long ago.
@nonoctoro4933
@nonoctoro4933 5 жыл бұрын
Twili ? Nah ... It's been centuries that they were banished to the Shadow Realm. Zant is not a good trickster, and the Shadow Beasts are not communicative at all, the only thing they would do to him is turning him into a shadow Beast, like what they've done to an old woman at Kakariko. It's clear that this is a Demon, just like the horned statue, that makes profite out of Hylian's greed.
@robovenom5530
@robovenom5530 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was someone like the statu from BOTW which could be why they were traped in the statu since making a deal with someone and terning them into gold is a pretty bad thing. Plus he makes a deal with the Govoni like how he makes deals with Link
@justinla92
@justinla92 5 жыл бұрын
The demon in skyward sword
@sirthanksalot97
@sirthanksalot97 5 жыл бұрын
Most likely? The Poe. Poe are soulless ghosts that wander around - it'd make sense for them to covet that which they lack. Heck, you even go around collecting the bits of his soul *from* Poe.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 5 жыл бұрын
Nanoro_bot ...and in Windwaker a bunch of small poes = one LARGE poe. So, he sold it to a boss poe, who then split apart into 56 of imp poes and 4 poe-poes to increase the odds of at least retaining SOME of it if something started hunting it (arguably the TP poes are the strongest as you need to be a tough animal to harm them at all, while random shop keepers buying poe souls in other games implies that they could go and hunt the poes themselves/hire others to do it besides just Link. So, TP poes are evolved?)
@dayalasingh5853
@dayalasingh5853 5 жыл бұрын
Firstly I love the FMA shows. Secondly I got the notification just as I got the last memory in botw finally.
@fuyumi6845
@fuyumi6845 5 жыл бұрын
Dayala Singh yes yes
@dayalasingh5853
@dayalasingh5853 5 жыл бұрын
@@fuyumi6845 yes yes yes
@oriontheone2876
@oriontheone2876 5 жыл бұрын
Dayala Singh yes yes yes yes
@dayalasingh5853
@dayalasingh5853 5 жыл бұрын
@@oriontheone2876 yes yes yes yes yes
@dayalasingh5853
@dayalasingh5853 5 жыл бұрын
@@burg3rdud33 it stops now
@kohganightbane9430
@kohganightbane9430 5 жыл бұрын
I did a double take when i saw the title and thought you were crazy for a minute, but then you did what you do best: Slap us all in the face with legit zelda logics lol. Love your channel!
@Levyathyn
@Levyathyn 5 жыл бұрын
Not really legit logic. The calculations ignore all of the gold Jovani got in direct exchange, all of the circumstances surrounding the poes, the fact that only animals can see them in the first place, and the foundation of the theory is even based on the pure guesswork of a poe soul in the game. It doesn't even take into account that a human soul--even if it were made up of a bunch of other souls--would be worth more than its components.
@christianweber7435
@christianweber7435 5 жыл бұрын
Nice theory, now I'mma go start watching that anime
@AnjnShan
@AnjnShan 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody was greedy. Somebody was gold. The world is gonna roll me. Or so I've been told.
@Nolassus
@Nolassus 5 жыл бұрын
I bet you ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
@AnjnShan
@AnjnShan 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nolassus I bet that giant L on her forehead means Lasagna.
@francescolombardi3438
@francescolombardi3438 5 жыл бұрын
WELL
@valenciasantos8236
@valenciasantos8236 5 жыл бұрын
I love how people still don't forget about Twilight Princess even though it's been like 13 years. Great video my good sir!
@princessdreamcast8091
@princessdreamcast8091 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it did just get a remaster 3 years ago.
@rockinriver6372
@rockinriver6372 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! Diamonds aren’t actually that rare. It’s just the diamond industry controls the supply to make you think it’s rare when it isn’t :)
@bluephoenixguy1094
@bluephoenixguy1094 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. He actually touched up on that in the video
@ghostleewanderer5926
@ghostleewanderer5926 5 жыл бұрын
I think he misspoke a bit at first, but later in the video he does clarify that diamonds aren't all that rare. What he should have said in the beginning was not that diamonds are rare, but that they are supplied in fewer numbers at a time than are actually available in general. Of course that would be a bit bloated though.
@damianimmortalcomics
@damianimmortalcomics 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, controlled market
@universaleliteinc.6554
@universaleliteinc.6554 5 жыл бұрын
Well no shit
@cherubin7th
@cherubin7th 5 жыл бұрын
Inflation is not well defined if you consider that in all cases you have a single customer in this games. There is no market. Additionally, you need to consider that demand is also important. For the OoT guy this souls are nice, but for this guy they are worth his life, and he still only gave you 200 XD. But nice video, was interesting to approach it with the limitations of this games!
@centurosproductions8827
@centurosproductions8827 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot that removing the soul and splitting it into 60 pieces voids the warranty. This really tends to devalue the soul.
@tamorcetold
@tamorcetold 5 жыл бұрын
I just thought I'd mention that there are four other poes in the Arbiter's Grounds that could easily be classified as big Poe souls, not just small Poe souls.
@klikkolee
@klikkolee 5 жыл бұрын
The concept you described in the video isn't "inflation". It's "supply and demand". Inflation refers to the change in "buying power" of a currency. The two concepts relate when you apply supply and demand to the currency itself, but the relationship is complicated and not applicable here.
@Fae2705
@Fae2705 5 жыл бұрын
There are big Poes! In the arbiter's grounds there are those tall/long Poes and every where else there are these tiny bratty ones with scythes!
@sa3270
@sa3270 4 жыл бұрын
In Skyward Sword you can get the Tycoon Wallet from Batreux after bringing him 80 gratitude crystals. It looks like Jovani's face.
@jaredbarker9515
@jaredbarker9515 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that should be remembered is that people often don't realize that value of something until it is taken away from them, or if it is scarce. Value is subjective depending on the customer, the merchant, and the circumstances. For example, if society were to collapse, food and energy sources for machines would most likely be considered more valuable than gold. People like Jovani and the Poe collector might assume that a soul has a finite value because every person has one, making it a common thing, but they would be wrong because it's what makes us who we are. No amount of wealth, knowledge, or power is worth the unexplainable source of consciousness and emotions we all have.
@JCDetona
@JCDetona 5 жыл бұрын
You're using the word inflation wrongly. You're talking about value or offer vs demand. Inflation is when the countries print more money by making a debt for the future. Adding more money into the market devalues money buying power.
@lukewatson4381
@lukewatson4381 5 жыл бұрын
Not exactly inflation isn't just countries and shit, its all goods and trades
@JCDetona
@JCDetona 5 жыл бұрын
@@lukewatson4381 the value of anything is about how much there is of that thing vs how much people want it (basic economics, offer vs demand). Inflation is How much money the countries print making a future debt flooding the market with more money devalueing its buying power (Ludwig von Mises). NBC is using the wrong terms.
@lukewatson4381
@lukewatson4381 5 жыл бұрын
@@JCDetona it is money but its not based on the countrys money its the value and how hard it is to find the good it trade he is using the right term
@kiarak4071
@kiarak4071 5 жыл бұрын
What if the value of a hylian soul depends on the owner? Like if Jiovani's soul was less valuable because of his greed. That would put an interesting spin on this!
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 4 жыл бұрын
I think so too. Greed, specifically hatred, devalues it considerably. Since the Goddesses have made a vast VAST world, and said world has an infinite number of parallel worlds, so there's an infinite variation of the same soul, and yet in spite of sheer numbers, the lesser gods themselves intervene on behalf of mortals. This indicates each and every soul is unique and of incalculable value, regardless. The number of souls in existence, living or deceased seem to be irrelevant to them. So the video simply shows us this: A demon would give you a mountain of treasure for your soul. A god wouldn't dare put a price tag on your soul. A Poe, being a lost soul full of hatred towards the world and life, has reduced itself to being only worth a fraction, 1/60th of an uncorrupted soul. There doesn't seem to be any taboo from the gods to purchase or sell Poes on the black market either.
@halt1931
@halt1931 5 жыл бұрын
there are big poes in Twilight Princess (Arbiter's), but they drop the same souls as small ones
@jeaxaz1133
@jeaxaz1133 5 жыл бұрын
That's actually extremely intriguing. Nice theory!
@KyrstOak
@KyrstOak 5 жыл бұрын
4:00 No, dude, that's wrong. It's being held back by those who mine it in order to create artificial inflation.
@unclejoe5496
@unclejoe5496 5 жыл бұрын
In BOTW you can get 30 hearts and there is a statue you can sell them at for 100 rupees so 100 times 30 = 3000 and there you go he didn’t have to do all of that research
@solarwolf1336
@solarwolf1336 5 жыл бұрын
Straight up thought you were gonna calculate the cost of a hylian soul by figuring out the value of all the treasure in his room, measuring it with pixel measurements, looking up values of the things in the room.
@dafilmqueen556
@dafilmqueen556 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like the job of MatPat. Funnily enough, he explains inflation and deflation better in one of his Genshin Impact theories, specifically the one about how the Archeon Jhonli doomed the world. Trust me, he does a better job. I'm gonna miss him..
@solarwolf1336
@solarwolf1336 7 ай бұрын
@@dafilmqueen556 - I love when people reply to comments I made years ago and I get to revisit them :) How did you even find my comment? You wouldn’t see it sorting my most recent or most popular
@jiuel1
@jiuel1 4 жыл бұрын
Currently reading Capital and addicted to watching zelda lore videos. This is the perfect mix.
@ElliotKeaton
@ElliotKeaton 4 жыл бұрын
Try reading 'The Power of the Powerless'.
@DerpWasTaken
@DerpWasTaken 5 жыл бұрын
FMAB is my favorite anime
@Aidensan11
@Aidensan11 5 жыл бұрын
tiafao i thought this said FNAF and now i feel stupid
@DerpWasTaken
@DerpWasTaken 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@user-uq1gw9yj1m
@user-uq1gw9yj1m 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Good job!
@ironspiderlink3652
@ironspiderlink3652 5 жыл бұрын
NBC posting so frequently is making my day! 😁😁😁
@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@Sir507
@Sir507 5 жыл бұрын
What about a theory about those giant skulls from Btw?
@sebastianuglyrat
@sebastianuglyrat 4 жыл бұрын
Just watch MNB’s video
@chloeevans6510
@chloeevans6510 5 жыл бұрын
“A channel called Film Theory” It makes it sound like no one knows who MatPat is lol
@sebastianuglyrat
@sebastianuglyrat 4 жыл бұрын
For the people who don’t know who He is
@kaitoudark1
@kaitoudark1 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably for the best, given what he's become as an entertainer.
@sayuriuzumaki
@sayuriuzumaki 5 жыл бұрын
NBC is slowly becoming MatPat XD
@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, I even got my own cat so I'm ready to take his position tbh
@hermanadland9341
@hermanadland9341 5 жыл бұрын
Yooooo botw 2 is in development
@toshio1334
@toshio1334 5 жыл бұрын
the gold coins also have the hylian crest on them so they gotta be worth something. or perhaps they are their own form of currency in certain places.
@zachariewinters2335
@zachariewinters2335 5 жыл бұрын
There is also the additional point that, as time passes, as gold is a valuable and useful material, due to its nonreactive properties, even having large quantities of it doesn't lower its value by much, as show in the past by gold standard currencies, the value of gold is pretty constant, meaning that it backs up other currencies such as rupees, quite nicely.
@BigPanda096
@BigPanda096 2 жыл бұрын
Diamond is the most common gemstone we theorize can actually exist beyond quartz, especially in collapsed stars since its pressurized carbon essentially.
@ovrsurge4689
@ovrsurge4689 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if rupees flickering and vanishing if left alone on the ground is a deflationary mechanism built into the currency of Hyrule for periods when the Hero slaughters monsters and grass en-mass, flooding the Hyrule market with new rupees and rapidly warping the economy.
@augm8184
@augm8184 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I thought you were going to talk about if/why a hylian soul can actually be translated to rupees, and if rupees contain life power or stored wotk/energy. Supported by examples like the restoration of great fairies, the actual properties of rupees, and their connection to the goddesses
@milesmonaco2625
@milesmonaco2625 5 жыл бұрын
The thing is he sold his soul FOR the money.
@kristocampos2848
@kristocampos2848 5 жыл бұрын
One fact to think of is, except for wolf link that no one can kill a TP Poe, so if wasn't for link he would never been able to came back to normal.
@lemau8458
@lemau8458 5 жыл бұрын
So using GameTheory’s calculations on what 1 green rupee is worth, a Hylian soul is worth somewhere between $8,095,469,250 and $161,909,385,000
@eduromero2
@eduromero2 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot the seven cat's souls, though XD
@trapscancreate5760
@trapscancreate5760 5 жыл бұрын
I feel there is something you overlooked though. There are only 60 poes in twilight princess. In OoT poes we're everywhere and in Majoras Mask they are only found in one place. As such poes are worth even more than either of those games because there is an extremely finite amount. As such they are compatible to the inflationon of coal or oil.
@RikThunder33
@RikThunder33 5 жыл бұрын
It IS really weird how there are gold coins with the Hyrule crest on them....what are they doing there...nobody uses them as a currency..right?
@icantdraw3781
@icantdraw3781 5 жыл бұрын
Well in BOTW someone refers to a mere 500 rupees as 'his life savings'
@themostbritishpersonalive868
@themostbritishpersonalive868 4 жыл бұрын
So link is rich
@icantdraw3781
@icantdraw3781 4 жыл бұрын
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 yes
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 5 жыл бұрын
*THIS POSES SO MANY QUESTIONS THOUGH* Does this mean that the more Hylians there are the less their souls are worth? Is the poe soul business profitable, and what are they used for? Can you buy souls somewhere? Can you use these souls to have several souls at a time (as you can apparently have no soul, and a third of a soul and still be pretty much fine)? Do the other species of Hyrule have differently valued souls? Can we legitimately kill people for money, and receive more money the more people we kill if we find a way to trap souls? Who would we need to contact for our soul business? Do you think it would be profitable to invest in soul stocks for BOTW 2? We may never know.
@horns8432
@horns8432 5 жыл бұрын
New vid=Cool Vid. Nicely done!
@jacobmauk853
@jacobmauk853 5 жыл бұрын
Well, maybe Poe's souls are more expensive then one might think considering they can only be obtained when someone can interact with the Twili (in Twilight Princess).
@heyitzmae
@heyitzmae 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you should have used the OoT statistic because Majora’s Mask is set in Termina and the economics of the two worlds aren’t necessarily the same, and Twilight Princess is set in Hyrule
@silverkyre
@silverkyre 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say that this is about a HYLIAN soul and the Majoras Mask poes aren't from Hyrule you're in Termina pretty much the entire game. This should have gone directly to The OOT prices comparing them with TP. Tri Force Heroes also dosnet take place in Hyrule.
@King_Nex
@King_Nex 5 жыл бұрын
Weren't there four big poes in Arbiters Grounds?
@EtheRenard
@EtheRenard 5 жыл бұрын
But considering the inflation between the rarity of Poe souls (in Poe forms) and human souls (not in Poe forms), we can see that a human can be found way easier than a poe, so a human soul is... cheap, if people are able to sell them! However, Poe souls are like a physical appearance of a part of human soul, so since you can't sell a human soul directly without a curse, it would be way more expensive! Also, hire a magician to curse the person!
@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the thought also crossed my mind! While there are millions of human souls on Earth, they would be considered extremely valuable since it's basically impossible to sell them [I mean, who knows ;) ] but given how Hyrule is a different world, the idea of selling your soul seems normal enough to make it lose it's value. Of course, the topic is very subjective.
@silverkyre
@silverkyre 5 жыл бұрын
@@NintendoBlackCrisis I'm very confused as to why you included MM prices considering that game takes place in another land/dimention. Thus based on those numbers would be the price if a Terminian soul. TFH also takes place in another land only OOT actually takes place in Hyrule.
@ezachleewright2309
@ezachleewright2309 4 жыл бұрын
Well, in the point in time. The value would logically fluctuate depend on the Hylian population, and of course how much demand there is.
@jarjarbingbong
@jarjarbingbong 4 жыл бұрын
Came down to comment on how diamonds aren’t rare and only expensive because of the De Beers monopoly and I’m pleased others have beat me to it.
@sadgiraffe6669
@sadgiraffe6669 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a theory about the robots in the dessert in skyward sword, they have always been interesting to me as if they served humans that must mean they had an advanced civilisation that maybe even surpasses ours as we don't have robots as advanced. If this is the case why de we never see technology on the same level in the series?
@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
I have a video connecting their technology to that of the Sheikah's from BotW :)
@RyanWuzHere13
@RyanWuzHere13 5 жыл бұрын
Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask use the same Link, but Majoras Mask is just a few later. This means that there was a lot of inflation. Meaning you want to use Majoras Mask.
@livipup
@livipup 5 жыл бұрын
I would think that the cost of his soul would require multiplying by 100 rather than 60 since you need 100 poe souls to fully restore him to his old self. That alone would take the value from 3000 to 5000 rupees. 5000 is of course a lot of rupees, but I think the soul is still worth more than that. Remember that all of the poe souls you collect are pieces of his soul and so they didn't exist before the deal was made. It's literally impossible to find any other poe souls in the world of Twilight Princess. Twilight Princess also takes place after Ocarina of Time and the poes in Ocarina of Time were so common as a result of Ganon's influence on the world. I would say that at a minimum the poe souls in TP would be equal to 200 rupees. You mentioned that in Ocarina of Time there are only 10 big poes and that there are only 2 in Majora's Mask, but it's not unreasonable to think that Link isn't the only person who has ever collected and sold a poe soul of any kind before. The people who buy the souls from you already have an idea of how much these souls should cost. They're rare, but they're not unheard of. Also considering that a big poe soul in Majora's Mask is equal in price to a small sample of gold dust it gives you an idea of how much stock their is in relation to demand. We'll assume that demand is pretty low for something like a soul because most people would have no use for it, but if somebody is willing to buy it, especially somebody like the curiosity shop owner in Majora's Mask's clock town, that's evidence of a reasonable demand for them. We can't accurately quantify the demand for poe souls, but we can confirm that they are far more expensive than what you suggested in this video. The absolute minimum I would say a Hylian soul is worth is 20,000 rupees. That's based on a price of 200 rupees per soul compared to 100 souls.
@scheyeguy2479
@scheyeguy2479 5 жыл бұрын
You know, that little channel called Film Theory Also maybe some souls have different values, like a criminal or a “lesser” person compared to someone who is more pure
@BossCrazyRoss
@BossCrazyRoss 5 жыл бұрын
About Tree Fiddy
@ilikeyt414
@ilikeyt414 4 жыл бұрын
Love the vid but it would’ve been cool if you had included the fact that twilight princess takes place in the adult timeline while majoras mask doesn’t which could possibly effect the main story since majoras mask only takes place over three days after link tells Zelda gannons plans and twilight is the next reincarnation of link so they could take place at different times from the split point so inflation in both timelines could be different and the fact link can only get the Poe in twilight while anyone can get it in majora
@nolan2636
@nolan2636 5 жыл бұрын
gold is also in Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.
@DuskyPredator
@DuskyPredator 5 жыл бұрын
Some additions. You mentioned inflation, but not the inflation of the money (rupees) itself. I can't be sure, but I do think that the general cost between OoT and TP is different, and to be sure with a checking of inflation rate we would have to find something of comparable value between them, to figure out if the worth of rupees has changed. We are doing this in rupees, or a nebulous value, like 500 sandwiches or something. Next, I think we maybe need some understanding of up selling and under selling. No merchant worth his salt buys something at its cost, and sells it at the same. So Link will not be selling Poe souls at their full value, regardless of inflation from scarcity, unless the Poe soul had desperately required purpose, which depends on their elasticity, which itself is if the product has a lot of altenrnatives, and what could be gained from it. Such as petrol having few alternatives to drive your car, and being important to get around, can make the value of fuel vary greatly. There are too few known values, like what Poe souls are used for, and what an entity gained from buying a Hylian's soul and making them Poe. We end up having to go into speculation, alone if there is a difference of value between a fully formed Poe, and one reduced to a soul. Are they used in the creation of really strong magic? Could a fully formed Poe draw more magic in than the soul of one? Unfortunately, the Legend of Zelda is filled with these not full pictures, we don't even know if he was ripped off in selling his soul.
@QueenofBrambles
@QueenofBrambles 5 жыл бұрын
I know I'm a bit late to the party, but 4:05 , diamonds aren't expensive because they're rare. Diamonds are actually common as all heck. Diamonds are expensive because only a few companies control the means of distribution. They want to make money so they created a market where diamonds are highly sought after and have to be personalized in jewelry to have worth. I know you touched on it like immediately after, but the script was still titchy. They were common way before Kimberley, and they're saturated in our daily lives. People just don't (almost can't resell. If you tried to resell your diamond jewelry, you wouldn't get very much for it at all because diamonds are indeed common and not worth very much.
@ChristyTina22
@ChristyTina22 5 жыл бұрын
Aren't there 3 big poes in MM? One under the graveyard, one in the well, and the third in the secret area behind Ikana's waterfall. Or am I remembering incorrectly?
@Fatnuggets1206
@Fatnuggets1206 Жыл бұрын
1:30 but this poeses a question 🗿
@atotallyrealperson3220
@atotallyrealperson3220 4 жыл бұрын
You should definitely watch FMA
@JikuAraiguma
@JikuAraiguma 5 жыл бұрын
I have another way to calculate this. So. Breath of the Wild. We have the demon statue outside Hateno. It will buy essence from Link for 120 rupees. This equates to 1 heart of health and 1/5 of a stamina wheel. By default, Link has 3 hearts and a full wheel. That's 8 essences worth of stuff. 8*120=960 rupees for Link's soul at his weakest. Now. Maximum worth of Link in BotW. 3 Stamina Wheels and 28 hearts if you have Champion's Ballad (I know you can go up to 30 hearts this was how I did it). 3*5 is 15, +28 is 43 essences total. Way more than the measly 8 he starts with. After completing all of the trials, Link's soul is more than 5 times its original strength... and worth. 43*120 is 5160 rupees for Link's soul. I could go even further, determining the worth of every other entity in Greater Hyrule. It involves a lot of math. If anyone is interested in that math, speak up, and I'd be glad to do it.
@Lazu__li
@Lazu__li Жыл бұрын
What I thought was that maybe the Poe's in the Arbiter's Ground are different and they have "bigger" souls It is hard to say anything about it really but I wanted to point it out
@HannaLivingston
@HannaLivingston 5 жыл бұрын
Termina is literally an alternate universe (confirmed) so it really shouldn't have been included in your calculations at all. That said, nice video.
@Hurricane360
@Hurricane360 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. Where DO you come up with these theories? WHAT IS YOUR SECRET!? XD jk
@steveescalante910
@steveescalante910 5 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is than twilight princess takes place 100 or so years after ocarina of time . What would the value of all these things really be?
@lemmingscanfly5
@lemmingscanfly5 5 жыл бұрын
What is the gold under Jiovani? Was there a culture in Hyrule that used gold coins as a currency?
@Borgirboi
@Borgirboi 5 жыл бұрын
To determine which game to use as the amount of rupees to compare it to by didn't u look at the canon timeline to see which game is in the same timeline
@Silver_Paladin
@Silver_Paladin 5 жыл бұрын
Diamonds were a pretty bad example, diamonds should technically be worth nothing due to the fact they're so easy to make. The reason they cost a lot is due to the agreement between companies that sell them to keep their prices high, a diamond with a colour imperfection would be worth much more depending on what element causes it and some other factors like how easily you can see through them and such
@skunkman5534
@skunkman5534 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@avenkaru
@avenkaru 5 жыл бұрын
You could divide 200 by 60 to get what Jovani’s soul is worth since that’s what he gives you for breaking the curse
@NintendoBlackCrisis
@NintendoBlackCrisis 5 жыл бұрын
Not very accurate, since it was clearly a rip-off
@buchanonsfirsties7590
@buchanonsfirsties7590 5 жыл бұрын
There are these circles and Xs made out of rocks and i have no idea what they are .
@lunellis6588
@lunellis6588 5 жыл бұрын
Great theory!
@TheSummoner86
@TheSummoner86 2 жыл бұрын
What exactly is a fairies tear? And why is it purple? I remember playing the game but this detail I don't remember and it's just interesting how it's displayed to the player, now that I'm disgusting all this lore.
@Edgeperor
@Edgeperor 4 жыл бұрын
With all his wealth, it’s surprising he spends the entire rest of the game lonely because his girlfriend left him. I imagine that, even in Hyrule, there would be some people who would love to take advantage of the mix of his wealth and vulnerability. Of course, I understand why Nintendo would be reluctant to put a gold-digger in a game millions of people would play...
@Pyxaanthal
@Pyxaanthal 5 жыл бұрын
NBC: Hylian soul values up in here! Me: That's enough KZbin for today
@emeryn6028
@emeryn6028 5 жыл бұрын
Please do a theory video of the new breath of the wild sequel trailer!
@nickolascrousillat4265
@nickolascrousillat4265 5 жыл бұрын
Ya cause it doesnt matter that TP and OoT are in the same setting compared to majoras mask where it's a completely different place.
@tobias9832
@tobias9832 5 жыл бұрын
I could be completely wrong but is inflation really the rigth word? Isn't that when money looses it's value?
@warailawildrunner5300
@warailawildrunner5300 5 жыл бұрын
So any guesses to his reaction when he gets the E3 news?
@the_legend_of_food831
@the_legend_of_food831 5 жыл бұрын
I love all of your videos, they entertain me whenever I'm bored. I havent came across a single video that I didnt like. Keep Gaming❤✌
@electinawasike979
@electinawasike979 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always
@nicholasfoxwell1505
@nicholasfoxwell1505 5 жыл бұрын
One more thing you forgot time also affects inflation a poe soul would be a different value from Ocarina of Time to Twilight Princess and since they're based three to four hundred years after you would multiply the value of the poe soul by 3 or 4
@sykune
@sykune 5 жыл бұрын
Twilight Princess takes place 100 years after Ocarina of time
@nicholasfoxwell1505
@nicholasfoxwell1505 5 жыл бұрын
Your right on the time time poe price would still be higher then it is oot
@fortifiedgum
@fortifiedgum 5 жыл бұрын
RIP Maes Hughes.
@Maverick512000
@Maverick512000 5 жыл бұрын
You missed a detail about the gold, those are not gold bars or gold dust but gold coins. They are stamped with the mark of the royal family therefore at some point they were issued out or at least controlled by the royal treasury. Just like how in the USA the actual gold of the country is held in Fort Knox. What this most likely means is that gold is actually the standard, or at least it was at one point, and rupees have no value of their own just what the kingdom says their value is like paper money in todays economy. Given that he has them odds are either the Poes stole them from the treasury or it was a lost treasure. Either way when he tries to sell them then he is in for a world of trouble. A true case of being careful what you wish for because even after the curse is broken it can still do him harm but the poes did fulfill their part of the bargain.
@Myrrid
@Myrrid 5 жыл бұрын
Majoras mask takes place in Termina, so maybe they are valued there more, so I would say use Ocarina of Time, also, I wonder if a cats soul is worth more with how much money Gengal will give you, lol.
@petercook7521
@petercook7521 5 жыл бұрын
Hey um, shouldn’t it be fair that it would be the value of jovani’s body? Since his soul is stuck inside a gold version of his body, seeing how he looks a lot skinnier after his body is returned? So it isn’t the same body, but the same soul. 3000 rupees per Hylian soul!
@NormalLunk
@NormalLunk 5 жыл бұрын
A soul for a soul
@Aidensan11
@Aidensan11 5 жыл бұрын
But wouldn’t Rupee values change over the years as well? USD has changed values a lot over the past century, so Rupees should be no different.
@SxFtSqrrl
@SxFtSqrrl 5 жыл бұрын
Determining the value of a video game by how much gamestop is willing to give you for it isn't so reliable. The value of those poe souls can't be accurately measured by how much a shop will give you for them
@orianpax87
@orianpax87 5 жыл бұрын
That cat would be my best friend for life for 200 Rupees!!
@grendelkhan3082
@grendelkhan3082 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Termina is a different country.
@ghostleewanderer5926
@ghostleewanderer5926 5 жыл бұрын
How long is this game anyways? I remember watching my dad play it but he never quite finished it due to being too long. The last part I remember seeing him being at was when you were turned back into the dog but this time Midna was sickly and that was also the first time he met this character who needed Poe's souls. He stopped playing shortly after meeting this character. How much longer is the game from there? (Wii version btw, in case that makes a difference) Later I tried playing this game myself but I didn't even get as far as my dad did before I got stuck and couldn't figure out how to move on. Not that I haven't been stuck previously in which I was able to eventually continue after looking up a walkthrough/playthrough online, but this time I got really stuck to the point that either I couldn't find a walkthrough for it, or I couldn't physically do what I was supposed to, I don't quite remember the exact case as it was some years ago and its been that long since I've had anything to do with that game, at least until now by watching this video.
@camdenbabodluck502
@camdenbabodluck502 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a math person, but the math and logic used here is abysmal. If you're accounting for inflation, you should use the Majora's Mask base price of 50, not because it occurs in both OoT and MM (because they're for different items), but because it shows us a rate of inflation. Within Link's life it increased by 500%. Taking this, we can assume that over a century, inflation would indeed increase by at least 500%, seeing that poes are now limited. After Link's escapades in Hyrule, we can also assume there are far fewer poes, 100 left for TP. With this, the inflation should be between 500% and 2500%. We sadly can't get a "true" number here because of the nature of Poes in OoT and MM, but this video's estimate was the lowest possible and reached the conclusion using faulty logic.
@jacopoarmini7889
@jacopoarmini7889 5 жыл бұрын
yeah... But... to whom did he sell his soul to? Majora? Ganondorf? We know demons are around, but I have never heard of them making faustian pacts with humans. Is there a Devil-like entity in Hyrule? Maybe Demise?
@wintersong2266
@wintersong2266 5 жыл бұрын
My theory is that he made a deal with the demon statue from Breath of The Wild
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