Which Nintendo Characters Had a Fate Worse Than Death?

[@cxthednalien]

The worst part about Haltmann is that he spend the rest of his life trying to build a machine that can grand any wish simply to revive his daughter,without knowing that she was literally in front of him the whole time and thus he spent the last moments of his life dying from his own creation,without even seeing her one last time

[@tatinh9885]

Nergral in Fire Emblem 7 also has the same tragic fate. He sent his dragon children to another realm to keep them safe, but unable to bring them back. He turned to dark magic and killed countless people to gain enough power to open the portal again. Once he did, however, his mind was so twisted that he couldn't even remember why he tried so hard to do so, and tried to kill his children who he had just brought back to gain even more power. Even more, due to the shock, the children didn't recognize their own father, and helped Eliwood to kill him instead.

[@Jdudec367]

well at least she was with him this whole time...so he had that at least

[@4g3nt06]

the peak sadness of kirby lore F to Haltman

[@wolfsongrising]

@@tatinh9885 Dang I forgot about that, I haven't played that game in so long. I'll take this as a reminder to fix that soon~

[@AngelHalo376]

What Kirby game is this from? I kinda want to play it now

[@PROPLAYEN]

Itoi said Porky will be trapped in the capsule even after the sun and all life on earth dies It's honestly sad to think about... Trapped in a crippled state in a cramped capsule for all of time.

[@AnimeboyIanpower]

He would then beg for death, though there would be nothing out there that can kill him... No Drago Fangs to pierce his heart, no cars to run him down, no lightning from the heavens to strike him where he stood... Nothing, because nothing can break through the shell of the Absolutely Safe Capsule... And then, eventually, like Kars, _Porky would stop thinking..._

[@michaelmiller6675]

@@AnimeboyIanpower AYAYA

[@pancakes8670]

And apparently that was done because Nintendo thought it would be too dark if Porky just died.

[@zizochemlali4639]

No matter what even a supernova a black hole the end of the universe and the creation of a new universe NOTHING Porky will be sealed away forever in an indestructible un openable seal forever

[@honeyslime7178]

Honestly though, it's not like time travel isn't possible in the Mother series.

[@StephonZeno]

Porky's "Death" always came off as the equivalent of "You didn't beat me. I quit!"

[@michealforguson5317]

"You didn't best me. I just merely failed to succeed!"

[@MetatronsRevenge613]

Solitary confinement is horrible. Three hours made me hallucinate, its hell. All you can do is think of your failure

[@StephonZeno]

​@@michealforguson5317 "I didn't fail. I just chose not to succeed." It's pretty fun thinking of the many ways to admit to being a sore loser in the most round-a-bout way possible lol

[@herbfollower5165]

“you didnt beat me, im just stuck in this capsule that you cant destroy for all of enternity, but you’ll die from old age one day, thus making me win”

[@StephonZeno]

@@herbfollower5165 Because out living someone means you've won... I mean, if he considers being the equivalent of a bratty, tantruming child, locking himself away in his room because he didn't get what he wanted "winning", then sure, he won. Whatever helps him sleep at night in the eternal Hell he's locked himself in.

[@Jetfox967]

I feel bad for both Susie and Taranza because they had to see the person that they care about get driven insane due to wanting to achieve one goal. Sectonia wanted endless beauty and Haltmann wanted to see his daughter again even though Susie was standing right in front of him.

[@nightfall4434]

I didn’t even know that Susie was haltmann’s daughter lol

[@originalkingdomhearts]

I do not feel bad for her at all. She destroyed worlds and killed people.

[@humbloom]

I love Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot for these two people alone, especially Taranza. :(

[@andrewle4989]

average kirby lore. yay.

[@aesiro1336]

Even worse, Sectonia didn't even want endless beauty. She just felt bad and ugly, and the enchanted mirror twisted her goal and mind. Taranza accidentally caused his closest friend to become not just a shell, but a completely different person, and he knew it.

[@lightestseed]

That last low-pitched scream from haltmann will always terrify me, not because it’s scary, but because of his fate

[@Camerablue_gaming]

Same dude,his fate haunted my dreams for a while

[@doyrte]

Same Also because it’s scary, a low pitched cry, almost a wail is always scary

[@bren4409]

I always thought Haltmann was just a greedy bastard. But I never knew about his lost child, and it's just so tragic. And all of a sudden, Susie's connection with Haltmann makes so much more sense to me.

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

@Noah Riley Taranza did nothing wrong, also... She decided to become the plant, she was so determined to kill Kirby that she refuses to die 4 times

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

@Noah Riley in this case, let's give the fault to Dark Meta Knight lmao

[@Defective_L0zer]

kirby lore is dark my fellow freinds

[@F1areon]

The worst part is that his daughter was actually *right there* the whole game, but he no longer remembers her bc his constant tinkering w/ Star Dream made it glitch out and wipe Haltmann’s memories.

[@InsertCoolIdentifierHereLol]

​@@F1areonstar dream was still incomplete so it just kept stealing Haltmann's data

[@blackskrillexvevo]

Haltmann probably had the worst one imo. I still find the Soul OS Star Dream fight to be horrifying espescially the last phase when the pause screen says Haltmann is no more on top of a quote of him looking for his daughter and that Star Dream is now a mindless killing machine. Pretty deep stuff from a franchise that started out as a flying gumball fighting a penguin for stealing food.

[@kawee1]

Atleast haltman died and got put to rest, porky had to spend eternity inside the absolutely safe capsule, which is a very small metal sphere. Though Haltmann's fate was definitely the 2nd most gruesome of this list

[@honeyslime7178]

Not to forget that Haltman was concious during the erasure of his soul.

[@honeyslime7178]

@@kawee1 I still feel sad when looking at where he started.

[@kirbyloq8622]

@@kawee1 haltman soul was digitalized so when star dream was destroyed he's soul just got deleted like a computer archive with no way to recovering it

[@maxwellmegagamer8535]

The first one?

[@logans.7932]

Nah I think Porky wins. He was already so sick and old that he could barely breathe, and he couldn’t move. Now imagine that for literal eternity, in a 5x5 foot sphere with no sort of stimuli other than a single window into the infinite blackness of space. THAT’S horrifying.

[@Teal-Menace]

(Shudders in horror)

[@meandmyboys8728]

Agreed, maybe if they make Mother4, they find him

[@snivylink2119]

he deserved every bit of it

[@mercedesmorato8587]

¡¡¡¡IM HERE OUT OF THE FUCKING CAPSULE YOUNG AND HEALTHY FINALLY!!!!

[@Exploding_Bagels]

@@mercedesmorato8587 they make something to destroy the absolutely safe capsule and free porky, your comment would be the first thing he would say after being released

[@theravingtimes9582]

For more context surrounding Kirby Planet Robobot's backstory/lore: Susie/Susanna Patrya Haltmann was involved in a project with Star Dream that resulted in her getting sucked into a pocket dimension. After spending a day in the pocket dimension, Susie managed to escape and return to Haltmann, but years have passed in her dimension and long-term exposure to Star Dream was slowly beginning corrupting him, changing his company's policies of using his technology for prospering to mechanizing the world. A part of the old Haltmann remained and he recognized his daughter enough to hire her as his secretary for the Haltmann Works Company. In hopes of saving her father, Susie stole a device Haltman was using to control Star Dream, but it backfires and his soul is absorbed into the machine. In a final attempt to offer her father salvation, Susie requests Kirby and Meta-Knight to stop Star Dream and free her father's soul. A last-ditch effort by Kirby worked and destroyed Star Dream, but Kirby's Robobot was torn apart in the ensuing attack and the memory unit acts upon its own volition to save Kirby as it drifts into the depths of space, potentially suffering a worse fate than Haltmann. Susie would return to the Haltmann Works Company to continue following her father's initial ambition and even returns to aid Kirby in Star Allies. Although the Kirby series is notorious for finding ways to revive characters like Marx, Zero and Dark Meta-Knight this appears to be a permanent situation similar to Sailor Waddle Dee, Sectonia and possibly Elfilis.

[@olouwi]

wait what happened to sailor waddle dee?

[@ShadowerzTheFreedomSpreader]

@@olouwi he died when the halberd crashed in super star

[@personwhoplaysgames6171]

About elfilis, I’m pretty sure in the end of forgotten world they returned (in credits if I’m correct) but then again they could be dead, sailor waddle dee and sectonia are definitely dead

[@sherbertshortkake6649]

@@ShadowerzTheFreedomSpreader WAIT WHAT I DON'T REMEMBER THIS SAILOR WADDLE DEE WAS LITERALLY MY FAVORITE CHARACTER WHAT ABOUT HIS CAMEO IN TEAM KIRBY CLASH DELUXE

[@TripodV3VO]

@@sherbertshortkake6649 If I remember correctly it was never mentioned what happened tor sailor waddle dee after the halberd blew up, so we don’t really know what happened

[@supergamer2.091]

The worst one is surely porky's fate. And i got an interesting idea out of this: If nintendo ever makes a MOTHER 4, they should do a part of the game where the heroes find the capsule, and they slowly look into it, and you vget a jumpscare of a decripid, withered-like Porky just against the glass.

[@drx737]

they ain't gonna do mother 4 the story is already finished

[@balanceherosmt7170]

@@drx737 Yea. And Porky will forever live on. Even after the universe dies out

[@Bluehairedagent]

@@drx737 yeah but... what about the like the very end of mother 3??? With the text???

[@codenameloser8488]

No, the worst fate is working for Wario dummy!

[@jamesnguyễn5510]

@@drx737 Mr. Itoi, the creator of the Mother series or Earthbound, said straight up "There will not be a Mother 4."

[@mx.pixiedowner4593]

Jesus. I didn't realize how horrifying the screams of Haltmann were as you destroy Star Dream.

[@Portersona69420]

That's Kirby for ya.

[@mx.pixiedowner4593]

@@Portersona69420 Yeppers

[@mighty4024]

@@mx.pixiedowner4593 just an average kirby game for you

[@mx.pixiedowner4593]

@@mighty4024 Pretty much

[@yurinigma]

Marx soul has entered the chat

[@SoulStreak64]

I've never played any of the Mother games, but Porky's fate of being trapped inside a capsule forever with no way to escape or even die...yeah, that ain't pretty.

[@Qorram]

Actually, the capsule its gonna get open in 3 billions of years🤓

[@lluis640]

@@Qorram I thought he was going to be trapped there forever.

[@Qorram]

@@lluis640 yeah me too, but itoi is the creator

[@juicyjuicethejuice4451]

@@Qorram where'd he say that

[@Qorram]

@@juicyjuicethejuice4451 in a entrevist, now I can't find it

[@balanceherosmt7170]

Dr. Andonuts warned Porky that the capsule will never be opened again once he's inside but he still went with it and wondered if it's what Porky wanted. Also, Porky did stated that he wanted to destroy all of reality because no one truly likes him and that he preferred to be all alone for eternity and due to him being spoiled rotten to hell and still mentally a child, he sees the capsule as a womb where he'll never grow up.

[@zavunelyxmeteor6223]

With all the time travel he's done yes Porky would have somehow stopped his growth... So that the evil in him may have unlimited

[@user.name.numbers.letters]

What about aging? Starvation? Does the capsule literally not let the person inside die whatsoever?

[@balanceherosmt7170]

@@user.name.numbers.letters No. Porky is completely immortal because of all that time travelling. Itoi said so himself that even after 5.5 billion years from now, after the end of the universe, Porky would still be alive.

[@archusrtm6325]

@@user.name.numbers.letters porky had time traveled to the point that they no longer aged and did not require sustenance. They simply can’t due to natural means already

[@user.name.numbers.letters]

@@balanceherosmt7170 oh wow. That really does sound like a fate worse than death. At least to me anyway. But you may be right. He may love being completely save and alone. I don’t know.

[@zizochemlali4639]

What’s even more sad about haltmann is that the more he uses Star Dream the more he forgot until the point of his life to him changed from: bringing back his daughter Susie to: infinite money and even when he sees his daughter again he doesn’t remember her just thinks she’s familiar and finally he has entire soul absorbed by star dream and Kirby destroyed Star dream sadly killing haltmanns soul with it he just wanted to see his daughter again

[@filippogironi3456]

In Mario and Luigi partners in time there is a section of the game where all the Toads are trapped on the Woods of this Forest. These Trees suck all of Toad's blood to make UFO fuel out of it. It's impressive how all of this happens in a Mario game

[@Starlight_235]

especially a mario game with babies in it

[@daskampffredchen]

Almost like the movie Aliens

[@blazingcynder6617]

I just started playing this game a few days ago. I was genuinely shocked how dark this game is compared to most other Mario games. Maybe that’s why it never got a remake

[@RandomTask678]

Everything in Toad Town was unnerving...

[@clovervidproductions]

It's *Vim (green toad life support liquid)* that was extracted from Toads, not blood.

[@alvaroperez2349]

This makes the deaths of Disney Villains look tame by comparison.

[@Dusk_Mightyena]

Yeah, Haltmann’s death was just pure pain and torture, Porky’s pain is just irreversible for he cannot die whatsoever due to being, well, immortal

[@goldsilverking5609]

Ur not wrong

[@KhryausOHowl]

Clayton: Hold my vines

[@gansterchompernoscopeblazit]

Yea at least they get to have an after life unlike haltmen and porky

[@LITERALLYSHRIMPO]

@@KhryausOHowl Dr. Facilier (or however you spell it): Hold my souls.

[@nuclearcommando9729]

Mighty Gazelle is my favorite racer from F-Zero so seeing him on here is surprising. I wouldn't say he suffered a fate worse than death. In his interviews after winning a grand prix, he says some of the following: >He doesn't miss his human body at all >With his new body, he can do disaster rescue because he can go where humans can't >Despite losing his fiance after the accident, he managed to recover from that and get a girlfriend (I hope you don't think she's a cyborg too) Not to mention because of his new body, he can be much more reckless with his racing because death isn't as big a risk to him. If anything, it's not a fate worse than death, but a new lease on life.

[@nkyfong]

So basically he just has a better life now

[@Colbio]

...that's actually incredibly wholesome. Especially the disaster relief part! I can see him showing up to Chernobyl with a shovel shouting about "Weak Meatbags" XD

[@Speariture]

Only one here that lived a better life yet there are some cyborgs like Robo cop and Cyborg himself who doesn't like being in a metallic body so the creator must've added bim considering for some ppl being basically a robot isn't a fun way to live a life

[@franzicoy]

"Death isn't as big a risk to him." Is his consciousness now a program that can be downloaded into a fully robotic body in case of irreparable damage? Or is he just far more durable than about 10 normal humans?

[@nuclearcommando9729]

@@franzicoy In one of his interviews about what he is going to do with his prize money, he mentions buying a new body, "One of those antique ones" So yes, it seems he can do such a thing.

[@JUMPYCOOL]

Can’t believe the worst one of all is Working For Wario!

[@jonath56_gaming]

Or Mr.Krabs

[@milesmcallister8542]

I believe it is a joke one

[@YoshiTheWolf]

@@milesmcallister8542 probably it is, prob to end this video in a funny way so we forget the dark stuff

[@tyrbinzukeran5954]

i Can’t believe it either

[@SkylineGuy]

I mean... not getting paid after a hard labor IS a fate worse than death.

[@miguelperez8646]

Its funny how we went from "they will live till the universe collapses" to "but thats not worse then working for wario"

[@hyliadreamer]

"It's", "that's", and "than". Not to mention all of your other errors.

[@sabinastrash6813]

@Hylia english might not be their first language

[@MechaVerse]

@@hyliadreamer 🤓

[@frankienerdyboy]

ur cringe ​@@hyliadreamer

[@theinfinityscout3289]

What’s even scarier about Porky’s fate is that he doesn’t even know that he’s stuck there for eternity. After Dr. Andonuts explains everything, Porky is still sticking his tongue at you. Imagine the fear he feels when he realizes he can’t open the hatch to exit the capsule

[@coolbunny]

What makes the Haltmann situation worse is you yourself witness part of his downfall. It just gets deeper, and deeper, and deeper, until all of a sudden, you're now required to kill him off. How Kirby still manages to keep that goofy smile of his after all of that is astounding.

[@ricardobr1493]

He's a baby And he can't read the pause screens because he can't read

[@dhampir_days]

I think it's because Kirby's a manifestation of positivity, so even though he IS capable of sadness, he never gives up

[@zeospark9715]

The baby thing only applies in the anime where it shows as he literally has to be guided around to do things. Compared that to his game counterpart where he is definitely capable on his own. Even then, how would Kirby know about Haltmann's tragic story? Haltmann at that point was already robotizing everything and even attempted to destroy the world. Kirby had to do what he had to do.

[@theshadowworld2239]

He probably had no idea what was going on, never gave it a second thought. Still… Please don’t hug me. I'm terrified.

[@ExDixionconderoga]

Kirby is a sadist

[@waynemidnight7454]

What about the 3 Mage Sisters? They had their Hearts stolen from them, and had to work for Hyness to revive Void Termina. By the end, they're begging Void to return their hearts to them. Tbh, almost every Main Antagonist in the Kirby Series needs to be here, even King Dedede, who tends to always be under some sort of Mind Control until Kirby frees him.

[@astralbirthvoid02]

yes but they have a good ending not like haltmann or sectonia.

[@victorlinares4137]

Yeah but they are freed thats the point lol

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

What?, no, you got it wrong The Three Mage Sisters were saved by Hyness from an almost death, and it is stated that Zan Partizane was trying to kill herself by jumping from the highest tower in her world but Kracko saw her as an intruder and threw a lightning to her, this did not kill her but the fall almost did, however Hyness rescued her and took her as one of the members of his cult, offering her love and affection. Franziska was freezing to death and Flamberge was burning to death, all of them saved by Hyness and he gave them affection and care. However since Hyness was slowly being corrupted by the Jamba Heart, he started acting weird, but the 3 Mage Sisters didn't care and stayed by his side, until the very end, this makes the True Ending of Heroes in Another Dimention sad and happy, because the Three Mage Sisters brought back Hyness, their most beloved friend and almost a fatherly figure.

[@waynemidnight7454]

Wait, what? I don't think I ever played their story in Star Allies. I don't remember any of that...

[@captainblue5096]

I don’t think that’s literally what the prayer song to god meant. The lore of the Mage Sisters is slightly less tragic. Each one had been on the verge of death. Francisca was freezing to death, Flamberge got caught in a fire, and Zan climbed a tower in desperation only to be struck by lightning (some say she was trying to commit suicide though I’m not positive about that). Hyness came along and used his magic to save them and give them elemental powers. Hyness was originally a caring and kind priest, but spiraled into madness through the Jamba Heart and started his abuse on the Mage Sisters. Even then, their loyalty knew no bounds, and they stayed by his side, As another reply said, the thing that makes their fates better than that of Haltmann’s is that Kirby and friends manage to save not only them, but also Hyness. There’s even a puzzle art of them enjoying themselves at the beach titled “Let Them Know We’re Happy”. Haltmann could not receive this kindness in time, and the only thing Kirby could do was put him down.

[@DonutBurger]

Remember guys, Super Paper Mario and Kirby are rated E for Everyone.

[@halodragonmaster]

Yup, Eldritch Entities and cosmic horrors for everyone!

[@Mia-sw1tu]

Rated E for EYEBALL GODS THAT ATTACK YOU WITH THEIR OWN BLOOD

[@lucaabete8077]

What a mistake fr

[@rukeyburg1084]

Sst, don’t spill the tea ;# Some kids grow up just because of the mature games ;)

[@That0neDude]

and it only turned to E10 for forgotten land. it wasn't even as scary as before...

[@diamondmemer9754]

President Haltman literally had his soul deleted, meaning that if the kirby world has an afterlife he doesn't get to see it

[@god2641]

That must be scary man just imagian never existing when you think about it you can't even have the knowledge to atleast know your there it's just nothing you can't think you can't scream and you won't even feel sad about it just a true neuteral state

[@MystE1010]

Isn't that the same as dying?

[@diamondmemer9754]

@@MystE1010 only if you're an atheist

[@Juan-de5nr]

​​@@diamondmemer9754 In some interpretations of Christianity hell means eternal separation from God, so hell means you cease to exist because separation from God means not existing.

[@diamondmemer9754]

@@Juan-de5nr that seems kinda convoluted

[@kieranm2774]

6:26 In Mother 3 Porky says "I might be 1,000 years old or 10,000" to make us feel bad

[@TheManofBrisk]

I wouldn't call Mighty Gazelle becoming a cyborg a fate worse than death. In GX, when the player wins with Gazelle on Master difficulty, a TV host asks him a question, one of which can be "do you miss your human body?" and Gazelle says he doesn't. Don't take the "only living for F-Zero" part as though he was programmed to be a slave for the competition, as racing was already his passion before the accident.

[@zizochemlali4639]

He wasn’t programmed to be a slave for F-Zero he just loves racing so much he says it’s his reason to live it’s also said that he does emergency rescue when there’s no F-Zero he’s completely independent and just loves F-Zero

[@zavunelyxmeteor6223]

Wow Porky is really the most reasonable villain he is himself imprisoned voluntarily for all the crimes he has committed but nothing proves that he will not use his machine again to visit the neighboring parallel world...

[@decas5505]

Well he cant, his machine run out of energy and he cant go anywhere when he is inside the absolutely safe capsule

[@Qorram]

The problem is, he just can't scape because its for maximum security Shigesato Itoi Creator of the saga, sayed he can get out of the capsule in 3 billions of years, and the worst is he has "immortality" he still being a human in probably 2 months he its gonna fall into a insane mind

[@h3971]

The most gruesome thing is that after beating the game (where presumably Lucas creates a new, better world) there is a dialogue that literary talks about a round thing rolling with the pigmask theme added

[@zavunelyxmeteor6223]

@@h3971 I can well imagine a scene where long after having pulled the last needle Lucas returns to the place where Porky's absolutely safe capsule was and discovers that Porky is inexplicably no longer inside and the only sentence Lucas manages to say is ?! ...What did Porky do?!

[@53cyclone]

@@Qorram Itoi said that 'Even in 5.5 billion years, when the sun explodes, porky will still be in the capsule, floating around for all eternity'

[@mrmumblz9496]

I love how behind the happy world of Kirby all sorts of dark and grim events have been going

[@elijahvincent985]

Mr. Luggs seems pretty happy with how he died, considering he's *still* eating as a ghost. It's safe to say his fate is the tamest on this list. Same goes for Working with Wario, LOL!

[@magicfish8213]

Working for Wario is the worst he hogs all the XC3 special editions

[@ThatAzureFluff]

I feel the same with Mr. Luggs, Wario however is debatable.

[@zizochemlali4639]

Yeah luggs would’ve stopped if eating himself was too much and he didn’t plus he spends the afterlife doing what he loves the most eating!

[@testerwulf3357]

Y’all assuming he LIKES eating…dude could have an eating disorder that causes him to over eat even though he hates it, people with eating disorders often hate having them. Imagine eating yourself to death, hating your body and your eating habits, only to be cursed to live like that forever in the afterlife?? That’s worse than dying, that’s torture

[@tyrbinzukeran5954]

i agree

[@BurashiP3]

In an interview with Shigesato Itoi he said that even if the earth were to be consumed by the Sun in 5 billion years, Porky would still be alive trapped in the capsule, floating in space for what I assume would be all eternity.

[@IDESTROYER236]

3:37 "Kirby Gameplay VS Kirby Lore" in a nutshell.

[@trentbell8276]

"I'm going to duck inside this 'Absolutely Safe Capsule' for the time being." More like for time eternal!

[@elizabethfernandez7106]

“Porky sticks his tongue at you inside the capsule” Does he even know what he’s gotten himself into!?

[@Significantharrassment]

Man the absolute safe won't last for an eternity that's for sure

[@galacticknight55544]

That line pretty much refutes the theory that Porky is okay with his fate. He didn't know he would be trapped in the capsule forever.

[@spaceacepl4636]

​@@elizabethfernandez7106 he probably doesn't know, i think

[@slow_mk8]

Either that, or he just doesn't care since he was warned about how not to use the "Absolutely Safe Capsule" before. After all, the Absolutely Safe Capsule is created to protect what's outside the capsule from what's inside it - and Pokey ultimately misunderstood its meanings.

[@fruitful6139]

6:35 Just something to add, Porky is immortal due to him causing tears in reality from frequent time traveling. Sooo… yep. No such thing as the sweet release of death for him

[@galacticknight55544]

Porky stays alive in it forever because he's already immortal, right? Any other person would just die after being in there for a while?

[@plushmode506]

Lumalee would say, "Boo."

[@spaceacepl4636]

​@@galacticknight55544 as several people here pointed out, shigesato itoi said in an interview that porky would still be alive by the time the sun explodes this combined with those tears in reality would make him the only person to witness the end of the universe

[@TheGreenyPhantomShowTGPS]

apparently working for wario is even worse than being trapped in a capsule.

[@LITERALLYSHRIMPO]

*being trapped inside a capsule until literally the end of time and then some.* *hard to tell which is worse*

[@junkhead_92]

@@LITERALLYSHRIMPO also porky was so old and sick that he couldn't move and struggled to breathe, now imagine that but being in a 5X5 foot capsule with nothing but a window to stare at the black void of space, that's horrifying.

[@anthonykhan1676]

Or having your soul deleted

[@GlitchanBlack]

To be fair, those are Wario's friends we're talking about here - how they can put up with all his shenanigans is beyond me.

[@mysticz3686]

0:15 in greek mythology the souls were not supposed to be in the River Styx, so this being classified as a fate worse than death is mythologically accurate

[@testerwulf3357]

It’s a mario game..it not being mythologically accurate sounds about right because it’s a video game not the mythologically accurate retelling of the greek mythos

[@dominicguye8058]

@@testerwulf3357 but they said that it IS mythologically accurate

[@graycatsaderow]

Wait river styx is a thing? I just played battle cats and there is an advent called river styx

[@woooooooooooooooooooooooo]

​@@graycatsaderow Yea, its the river separating Earth and Hell (Hades) in Greek mythology.

[@DoctorNovakaine]

98% of Kirby: Bright and bubbly music, lively and colorful aesthetic, fairly forgiving gameplay The remaining 2%: Terrifying lore, casual deathmatches against eldritch horrors and superbeings

[@multifandomfangirl9664]

The Kirby deaths & the underwhere scared me Especially the underwhere

[@dragonslayer7724]

"let's give this hell-like domain super creepy music that's ten times creepier than any creepypasta" "what should we call it?" "the underwhere lol"

[@adrianstrikesnack2217]

@dragonslayer7724 I remember when there was a time I would listen to each of the characters themes in the background :)))

[@supergamer2.091]

Man, all of those fates are just horrifying. Especialy haltmann with his scream at the final fight, sectonia with her twisted past and Porky's death, condamned to be stuck for eternity ! Nintendo was really dark with their games back then huh ? (Btw, the last one is just funny lol)

[@BJGvideos]

Lysandre from Pokémon XY, or possibly. There's a chance that he's immortal like his ancestor AZ, but this would mean he's still alive under tons of rocks, probably haven taken severe damage from the explosion and rock slide, and nobody seems bothered to dig him up. Consider that every time you go to Geosenge.

[@BJGvideos]

@@magicfish8213 Lysandre is descended from AZ's brother so AZ is like his great great etc uncle. But I don't see what it matters. Your parents are your ancestors, and most people watching this video will have at least one living parent, yeah?

[@BJGvideos]

@@magicfish8213 No, ancestors are just the relatives that came before you. They can be alive.

[@magicfish8213]

@@BJGvideos I think your right Imma delete my past stupid

[@dhampir_days]

he canonically becomes immortal in X thanks to the weapon being powered by Xerneas, he only dies in Y, which is pretty fucked but sick in a way? like he tried to eliminate all life on earth, so he got cursed with eternal life while constantly being crushed. pretty fitting punishment.

[@rpgfanatic9719]

What an embarrassing explanation.

[@darreljones8645]

Technically, the phrase "a fate worse than death" can only be used when you don't actually die. And some of these characters did (Ganon repeatedly).

[@adamspeiser6449]

But technically his fate is not him just dying; it's that he has to die repeatedly, sometimes as a mindless animal. Usually when someone's fate is dying, they stay dead and that is where their story ends. Ganon has to suffer being killed many times over (but I guess he would never know the pain felt by his previous selves as far as ai am aware). I guess his was him being a mindless animal, but I see where you are coming from in that example and others like the ghost eating himself when he was alive.

[@Da_Sire]

Mr luggs literally died lol

[@newageBoundhippie]

@@adamspeiser6449 plus while Link & Zelda are constantly reborn/reincarnated, Ganondorf/Ganon is generally the same person revived/resurrected over & over & over...

[@adamspeiser6449]

@@newageBoundhippie yup. That is very much true

[@farhanazahran7395]

well... dying multiple times is worse thenn dying a single time

[@liamdalemon1525]

I think the thing that REALLY sucks about Gannon's situation is that even if he does succeed in killing Link, he still looses! he's in a situation where he literally cannot win and is forced to relive getting beaten, FOR ALL ETERNITY!!! no matter what he does, no matter how well he does, no matter how smart he is, he is destined to fail over and over and over again! I feel bad for the guy, he didn't even really do anything to deserve this fate, it was just thrust upon him without his consent

[@lilhypnotique]

Yea if he wins, here comes the flood.

[@mainzer45]

Not really without his consent, given the entire reason he, link, and zelda all come back to life is because in his first life he cursed them all eternally to that fate.

[@liamdalemon1525]

@@mainzer45 I mean kind of, Gannondorf isn't Demise, it's more of a God and Jesus kind of relationship, I don't know if he can be held responsible

[@Portersona69420]

You knew there had to be AT LEAST one Kirby entry on here.

[@CouldBeMJ]

I feel that an argument could be made that Lysandre (From Pokemon X/Y) had a worse fate than Porky. I mean, yes their fates were pretty much the same, but while Porky is simply stuck in a capsule for all eternity, Lysandre is buried deep under the ground, presumably in a coffin, so it's just him laying there, no movement, no sight, only him and his (likely still sinister knowing that psycho) thoughts. Still not as bad as working for Wario though

[@dhampir_days]

also he's constantly crushed by the debris

[@F1areon]

Depends on if you played X or Y; in Y the blast is heavily implied to have killed him, in X it gave him immortality but now he’s trapped under the base’s rubble.

[@Cat-pv6yx]

I mean there’s always the chance that a building project happens and he gets set free

[@geoffabbythomas7293]

​@@Cat-pv6yxwhat you're saying means that eventually he could try again if he was set free

[@glowdonk]

Didn't the Weapon get destroyed after you captured or fainted Xerneas/Yveltal?@@geoffabbythomas7293

[@Ninblasto]

I saw the thumbnail, and knew that this video was going to be sad. I remembered what happened to Porky, and the sad story of President Haltmann.

[@itswolfgmd8212]

Master porky’s fate is actually what he wants. Since the world is just a meaningless game, he’d rather just sit for eternity watching.

[@Serious5GamingS5G]

I think Haltmann has the worst fate of them all, sure Porky is forced to live forever in such small space but as far as I saw, he didn't show any signs of pain besides coughing, Haltmann went through so much, He lost his only child, his memory slowly decayed until Susie got back and he forgot all about his only child that being Susie, lost control of star dream, which practically was slowly sucking the life out of Haltmann while he was still conscious until he lost all his memories and lost his soul, screaming in pain after each pillar inside Nova is destroyed until the heart of Nova disintegrating, making you hear his last scream before death, Then again there is working for Wario

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah]

1:21 omg it's nikocado avocado

[@Lean99999]

Nikado avocado fate predicted⁉️ 😱😱😱😱

[@LosAngelesDodgersFan9779]

Next they should do caseoh

[@TooMuchAwesomeness15]

HE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE HIM WHAT

[@Porygon400]

that aged poorly

[@TheRealTobinski714]

Fun Fact about River Twigzz: If you listen really closely, you can hear very faint noises that sound like people talking, and that’s because it is people talking…Nintendo recorded a meeting that was taking place and put it in River Twigzz among the other disturbing noises and sounds as like a troll or a goof or whatnot

[@jaquaviousquan]

You wrote it wrong

[@SeigeGoat]

Nintendo:Our game is for kids and adults everyone can play :) Also Nintendo:Let's bring a fate worse than death

[@IvanFranco120]

At least better put the box art rating not higher than PEGI 7...😅

[@paulgrotebeverborg1119]

Giygas had one too. His own sheer power destroyed his mind

[@rosykindbunny1313]

Haltmann going insane and endangering many lives just to get his daughter back reminds me of the Woodsman from Over the Garden Wall. Luckily he has a happy ending.

[@popop7850]

I also remember the story in Pokemon X, about a Pokemon who died during a war, and his owner was so sad, that he killed others Pokemons, to make his Pokemon come back to live, and be immortal. But once the Pokemon came back to live, he learned that his owner killed Pokemon for him, and he was so chocked, he ran away from his owner, and he never saw him again. (Exept at the end of the game, good ending and stuff) (Sorry if i use a bad english)

[@F1areon]

That’s AZ and his Floette’s backstory, yeah

[@AloneTheorist]

The machine used to save Eternal Flower Floette was technically different to the ultimate weapon as the ultimate weapon was made by CONVERTING it and it's original energy source to a different OS, taking rather than giving life by projecting intense energy rather than infusing quantities of it into a body. The AZ story also said he converted the machine into the ultimate weapon because his heart 'hardened' after Floette's death and 'consumed with rage and grief' he decided to end the war before it could ruin his beloved Pokémon's new life. Eternal flower floette just hated the fact that AZ chose genocide as a means of protection as it went against everything the pair believed in before the war and the reason she chose to fight in it, she participated to keep AZ out of it.

[@InsertCoolIdentifierHereLol]

unconfirmed pokemon fact: Flareon is the most huggable pokemon (like i said, this is not confirmed)

[@razerbladegaming8515]

Haven’t even played any of the Mother games, but even thinking about the only inevitable thing in your life being ripped away from you, just being trapped for eternity is a horrifying thought, especially for an overthinker who thinks too much about existence

[@yuvalwh]

To add to the horror, porky bended time and space in mother 2, making him practically both about 10000 years old from the time travel, and practically immortal from the space warping he did. Not only is he trapped, he is trapped in a crippled state, and he will stay that way FOREVER, and his state will only get worse, thats dark

[@Cicine59]

It went from someone jailed for eternity to a joke

[@DonutBurger]

I don't have a basement.

[@TheRoyalOne-xb4vw]

@@DonutBurger use your attic then

[@Gemarald]

Porky's fate is probably the most terrifying one there could ever be. He will be in that capsule for the rest of time, billions upon billions of years, even after all life in the universe dies, due to his immortality he will still be there, alone, forever. People go insane after being trapped in darkness alone, now think of that but times a near infinite amount, death would be the greatest gift he could ever get.

[@michealforguson5317]

And when he wants it, he can never get it. The Ultimate Game Over.

[@watership02]

Eventually, Porky will stop thinking.

[@eqeeaead2799]

No, it's not the worst fate , the worst fate is working for wario

[@lunalgaleo1991]

It's said that time flows in the Pokémon world because Dialga's heart beats. Meaning that if you do nothing to stop Dusknoir, Dialga DIES.

[@atwistedb]

But in the end Porky got what he truly wanted...

[@Crystalluss]

Everyone (including me) always memes about how Kirby is a cute game only on the surface, and that it actually contains deep, horrifying lore. However, it only makes sense for the franchise to be that way. Kirby is a being of hopes and dreams--a symbol of purity. The fact that he fights such dark abominations and stays joyful is like a metaphor for having hope in the face of your worst fears, and it does a good job of emphasizing Kirby's innocence. After all, wouldn't a being of dreams naturally save the world from nightmares? Sometimes, it takes the darkness of night to see the light of stars. And the darker the night--the further you are from the familiar safety of civilization--the more stars can be seen.

[@russellbaldwin2949]

Porky's fate is definitely worse than death when I played mother 3 for the first time and got to this part hearing that porky is immortal and once he gets inside the absolute safe capsule and it will never open and he'll be in there for all eternity every time that gives me deep dark chills down my spine I know porky is annoying and he turned on Ness and sided with Giygas I don't want that for porky

[@mrquackadoodlemoo]

I've always been intrigued and horrified by the concept of infinity and eternity. Being conscious for an undeterminable amount of time is a fate that is, above every other, worse than death. Death is an eventual relief from personal entropy and one of the few kindnesses the total indeference a universe has by default. It puts an end to any pain and agony one conscious creature has. Death is a misery put to an end. And so to deny one's own merciful death by never being able to die while suffering a horrible illness is frighteningly horrific to me. You will be stuck in a state of suffering past the reach of Death and live every single second of the next span of time that makes the Heat Death of the Universe look like a flash of light. Entropic death a kindness so pinnacle and massively important that the uncaring bastard of reality has deemed necessary. And you have just exiled yourself from that kindness. The Absolute Safety Sphere is hands down, 100% and the end-all and be-all worst fate a being with the concept of consciousness can have, in my opinion.

[@finH31]

Porky's fate must be disturbing when he figures out he can't leave the torture like chamber he entered without know what is about to happen, then watches the outside after the years gone by when the earth is gone.

[@endermenon4836]

The whole situation with Haltmann reminds me of Dr. Fuji trying to resurrect his daughter Amber in Mewtwo's backstory

[@LakinMae5]

The Faust complex as I like to call it!

[@PhotonZXY]

Porky and Haltmann’s fate was probably the worst. Consider the fact porky is stuck inside a capsule forever is very sad. And haltmann lost her daughter and his soul absorbed inside a machine is just the absolute worst, consider the fact that her daughter was with her all along

[@susiehaltmann3342]

Man I still really miss my father.😢

[@yayanow44]

HELPPPP

[@TheSattocs]

The Metroid Prime 3 one was incorrect, he doesn’t end his own life. Dark Samus controls all 3 bounty hunters and makes them attack you, and when you defeat them, Dark Samus disposes of them and absorbs them. They have no control over the matter, it is Dark Samus simply destroying what is deemed useless and absorbing their essence. This happens to all 3 bounty hunters.

[@jamalgumbs7518]

I was looking for this comment. Hope more people know about what actually happened.

[@zizochemlali4639]

Yeah if rundas had enough control to independently use his powers even for just a moment he would use them to attack dark Samus not commit suicide

[@masonpark8740]

The worse death in that game is actually your own, when Samus dies to corruption overload, dark Samus takes control, essentially allowing her to infect the entire universe with phazon as there is no one left uncorrupted to stop her

[@cullenator]

I think if Haltmann survived the Star Dream OS incident it would probably be worse than the death he got. He probably would’ve suffered permanent injury mentally and physically considering his entire being was erased. If Star Dream just exploded and spat him out he’d probably be in a somewhat undead, possibly conscious, paralyzed state, and he’d either be abandoned there or put in a containment area where he’d rot for eternity

[@Cr0w1997]

Porky got the Kars treatment.From Jjba, Basically Kars became the Ultimate Lifeform being able to never die and having the DNA of all living being, essentially becoming a god. He was then launched to space and froze to a rock, tho he was unable to die he simply stopped thinking

[@galacticknight55544]

Couldn't Kars theoretically crash into a planet and get unfrozen?

[@Cr0w1997]

@@galacticknight55544 Yes but thats just a What-If. Its definitely possible but the end of battle tendency implies that hes drifting in space for all eternity

[@kirbyleggington7205]

Saddest thing about Haltmann is that his daughter was right there working under him, and he never realized.

[@sygneg7348]

Everyone here is talking about the horrible fates Susie, Taranza, Haltman and Sectonia faced. No one here is talking about how Master Porky literally got himself trapped not realizing what just happened thinking that Lucas can't beat him anymore. At some point in the future (if he realizes) he will go insane and stop thinking.

[@spaceacepl4636]

and he'll be the only person to witness the sun blowing up and destroying earth and living to tell the tale ...only to himself though

[@maneruloquendero]

I don't know why Kirby is so dark. I mean, Happy Tree Friend's joke is that is a cute show with tons of gore. I don't know why Kirby's joke is not that it's a cutesy franchise with deeply dark aspects; blood, death, disturbing imagery, body horror... We all know that, but Nintendo refuses to advertise it like that

[@lucideirune1635]

I think in Pokémon X, Lysandre had a worse fate than Porky. He is trapped forever being crushed by rocks and unable to die. Also, Nintendo has made many bosses where you kill the ghost of that said boss.

[@robloxcool88]

I feel like Lysandre will probably at least die when the rest of the Pokemon world eventually dies out. But, Porky has been confirmed as not being able to die by *anything* - even if the Earth were to be consumed by the Sun in 5 billion years, Porky would still be alive inside the capsule, unable to leave or do anything about his situation.

[@lucideirune1635]

@@robloxcool88 It was confirmed that Lysandre was immortal in Pokémon X. Even when the Pokémon world ends, he would still be alive in an empty void.

[@mohdadeeb1829]

@@lucideirune1635 Kill What?

[@lucideirune1635]

@@mohdadeeb1829 The ghost of a villain. After defeating the villain physically, you get a chance to kill the ghost for example, Princess Shroob when she possesses Bowser.

[@mohdadeeb1829]

@@lucideirune1635 Kill is not the correct word here. Release is better word.

[@tacopizzasandwich621]

Mr luggs is technically still doing what he wants, which is eating, and maybe he’s hiding because he’s hoarding all the food. Same with mighty gazelle

[@primalthunder3968]

The first one with paper Mario is right out of a creepy pasta, how did Nintendo approve of it?

[@Lazar-tt4uq]

Someone must have snuck that in When i first heared that theme i thought it was some creepypasta game but no its actual paper mario music Old games always have some freaky music or nightmare fuel in them

[@Lazar-tt4uq]

This music was also used in a mario creepypasta aswell IHATEYOU.exe to be specfic

[@testerwulf3357]

@@Lazar-tt4uq People can’t really sneak stuff in, in a big company like that..

[@WarioTimeWarioTimeWarioTime]

I like to think Mr. Luggs is a prophetic warning to Nikocado Avocado

[@derpious267]

Jin (Xenoblade 2 and Torna) needs to be on this list! He endured more mental pain and emotional distress than any character ever. He couldn't even die to end it. As Malos said at the end "but that man had lost everything. He didn't even want to live anymore! But he had to live on because his life was the only thing he hadn't lost, because he couldn't!"

[@lucasfox2494]

Yeah, Lora's last words to Jin were a curse that made him have to stay alive in order to keep the last memories anyone have of her alive so she won't be forgotten by Jin and his love for Lora made him unable to kill himself even though he wants nothing more than that. Thus he endured a suffering existence for 500 years because of this curse the woman he loves accidentally put on him.

[@minasthirith6314]

Samus Aran watched Ridley tell her that the reason her home planet had been destroyed was her fault, and that he ate her parents to survive its destruction. Zero was the patient Zero for the Maverick virus, and was indirectly responsible for every new maverick ever. Silver lives in a future where Iblis has destroyed everything. And when he finally manages to get him sealed (losing his best friend in the process), Mephilis then goes to the past and fuses with Iblis anyway, making her sacrifice entirely pointless. Zelda (botw) has held the Calamity for a hundred years to give Link time to come save her, while bearing the guilt of not being able to use her powers, effectively condemning the champions to death. I won't say that Jin hasn't suffered. But saying that he suffered the most is false. Add to that the fact that he then teamed up with the one who had caused his suffering, and I don't have much sympathy left for him.

[@derpious267]

@@minasthirith6314 good argument, but as a xenoblade obsessed teen, I refuse to budge

[@Kaisona2017]

Add on to that, Haze, who was like a sister to Jin, due to them sharing Lora as a Driver, became a blade to the same man, who killed Lora. To add insult to injury, her driver stole half of her core crystal, in order to use her powers for himself. Eventually, Jin killed Haze, in order to free her from being forced to serve Amalthus, any longer.

[@derpious267]

@@Kaisona2017 people can complain all they want about XC2, but they really know how to make an emotional story

[@BigEvy]

3:18 The audio playing is from Metroid prime 3 , Rundas’ theme is what plays when you fight him. My favorite song I’ve heard in the Metroid series so far.

[@dashyga786]

Thx for the new video, you always put so much effort in em!

[@RHVGamer]

i did not know that creepy sound effect was from a MARIO game

[@knightofarkronia8652]

You know, this might not in fact be the end of Porky. When you take multiverse theory into the equation, and consider how much time travelling Porky has done, he could’ve essentially become a living paradox, so there could be some variant of him out there, still scheming…

[@psychicsodabottle]

Porky's fate always gave me shivers and still does to this day. Just the thought of unknowingly being trapped in a relatively small, enclosed structure for all of eternity, unable to die, and unable to move due to incredible age. Porky as a character has always kind of been a tragic one. But the Absolutely Safe Capsule just adds even more tragedy, along with a heap of existentialism to it. The worst part of this in my opinion is that he used to be just a semi-normal child. While yes, he is one of the most evil Nintendo villains, even *he* doesn't really deserve it.

[@terk383]

I wouldn’t say Ganon’s fate is worse than death. Skyward Sword spoilers below: At the end of Skyward Sword, he CHOSE to curse Link and Zelda so that all three of them incarnate. He wasn’t cursed, he cursed himself. It was a kamikaze of sorts, but he made the willing choice to do it.

[@sarahquayyum8176]

Ganon did not curse himself Demise actually cursed him Link and Zelda

[@terk383]

@@sarahquayyum8176 Demise is the first incarnation of Ganon.

[@testerwulf3357]

Just because you choose something doesn’t mean you cannot later regret it and it goes from paradise to torture… It’s like saying someone cursing themself to live forever isn’t that bad because they wanted it as if a million years later they don’t suffer because if it and regret it. At first yea it’s not torture or worse than death..but eventually it goes on so long it IS worse than death

[@anthonyr4186]

I feel bad for Porky.

[@kamurrydainasorr3941]

There is a data which is not used in the game but there you can see how the Absolutely Safe Capsule broke and Porky lies painful on the ground

[@Terrified_Dartanyan]

Porky's fate is terrifying to think about, but Haltman's... Oh God, Haltman's fate is truly nightmarish, he's still alive, part of Star Dream OS, but he's just another component, no soul, no emotion, nothing, just a gear in the machine

[@reviewer945]

Wow I never thought I could feel sorry for Ganondorf. Also I did NOT expect Wario's Friends to be on this list but it makes sense.

[@marcosluismartinmorales5523]

The terrifying and sad story Haltmann has is part of the pegi 3, children-focused game where you control a pink, round creature literally made of happiness in his adventures around the world

[@sberky98]

for kids!!!

[@MechaVerse]

Stolen

[@marcosluismartinmorales5523]

@@MechaVerse bro, you sure they didn't steal it from me? I've been accused of comment theft twice and neither of the times did I actually steal it. People can have the same thoughts, man, it's not that weird

[@marxjester9802]

I feel bad for Ganondorf. Trapped in a constant state of death and resurrection because a green-clad femboy from the woods and the reincarnation of a literal goddess pissed off himself from a past life that also was a demon.

[@zizochemlali4639]

Really Demise is the one doing this he’s forcing ganondorf to do so much evil and destruction even turning him into a force of death calamity ganon all because demise was killed

[@Jadge32]

@@zizochemlali4639 dude what about the hero’s shade

[@zizochemlali4639]

@@Jadge32 pretty much the same forced to constantly come back after being killed

[@svxd7369]

Porky being trapped forever in the Absolutely Safe Capsule is very horrifying to think of, being trapped in a small confined space until the end of time. I feel glad that you jokingly put working for Wario as the worst fate of all, that helped lighten the mood.

[@NightShadow720]

The title of this video is something a Mortal Kombat character, such as Raiden, would say.

[@clamdeity]

Porky had the worst fate for everyone else, but for him, he had the best fate. I'm not sure where I heard this, but it was said that Porky remained after the death of the universe, but he was still happy, still thinking he had won.

[@StarlightEcho912]

Poor Rundas, man. I know there are obviously worse deaths out there, but it might be the most iconic Metroid Prime moment these days, and for good reason. Metroid is the series where Nintendo doesn't hold back, and it shows in specific moments like that.

[@nefariosgliscor]

Nobody's gonna talk about the fate of Pigma in StarFox? He's consumed by the Aparoids in Assault and then comes back as a rubix cube style boss in one of the side quests of Command. He deserves it, but still worse than death because he had his own will restored after the Aparoid queen was destroyed and he sought revenge after adjusting to his new form. Just to die, again.

[@galacticknight55544]

But he died. So his fate can't be called worse than death.

[@nefariosgliscor]

@@galacticknight55544 If you don't choose that story path, he doesn't die by your hands and continues living as a cube.

[@AacroX]

Most of these characters who had a "fate worse than death", their last fate was death. They literally died

[@Nameless_mixes]

There was also the Darkrai in Poképark 2 that tried making a world of fun and had to sacrifice himself because the world collapsed in on itself.

[@F1areon]

You’re still able to save him, though; that’s the whole plot of the postgame.

[@GamesNStuffOfficial]

working for wario is indeed the worst fate in the history of fates

[@undeadreader23]

Shigesato Itoi, the creator of the Mother series said in an interview that: "So 5.5 billion years from now, Porky will still be alive. ...But the grief of that is incredibly depressing to me. It's amazing... Porky is truly a poem in himself" The consensus is that he will either go crazy from loneliness, or more true to his character, he will spend eternity smug because in the end, he 'won'

[@Astralpaces]

2:50 this is possibly referencing Kirby Super Star/Kirby’s Fun Pak, because something similar happens with Marx and this boss looks like it.

[@StarmanDX1]

Haltmann death is a non-canon because this ending is part of the True Arena Mode however was epic. This title became one of my favorites Kirby games.

[@AsecasJavi]

You just don't see the inside of the battle in the normal mode. I doubt he's alive

[@crimsonemperor2219]

Im pretty sure its canonical, in star allies Susie ends up taking over the company and starts helping people with the mechas (there is an error in the English translation in that it says she instead takes over and continues her fathers work of mechanizing the galaxy)

[@astralbirthvoid02]

it's just a phase in more, star dream die in the normal story so haltmann too.

[@robertadamsx2]

In Kirby star allies, there's descriptions for everyone of why they are fighting with kirby. With Susie, it says after her father's death, she took over his business.

[@saincx0m9]

yeah umm, do i just have news for you bud

[@ExtremeAce]

You can't just hit me with Rundas' theme to start with..

[@Crystalluss]

Yeah, hearing that song out of nowhere stabbed me right through the heart...

[@Determination709]

3:50 haltman got lots of determination after being absorbed to star dream OS making his soul melt after splitting in half