NISI ATHENA vs. DZO VESPID PRIMES // Which Lenses are better?

[@christopherjahn8559]

Thanks Paule, I agree both are great but from what I saw I also prefer the dzo vespids. It’s just overall great to see what lenses you can get nowadays in comparison to 10 years ago there was nothing at that price point

[@pauleporterdp]

That’s true it is incredible what the market has to offer this time. Thanks for watching

[@frankfeng2701]

You forgot to mention the one major flaw of the Nisi set, which is the rear protruding element during focus adjustment that'll prevent you from mounting the lens on speedbooster or most filter adapters, making it less useful on mirrorless and/or super35 bodies than the Vespid.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for pointing this out.

[@shaunmaddox]

Appreciate you taking time out to make this comparison video. The colors seem to be more present on DZOFILM Lenses. I’m not a fan of either but if I had to choose, it would be DZOFILM.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback. :)

[@cine-ish]

what would you choose instead of these?

[@MattQuattro]

Thanks for this Paule, what a great breakdown. I have a set of the Vespids and really like how many focal length options there are plus the mix of vintage and modern characteristics. I am confused about the lens caps because mine shipped with the plastic ones but they have stickers on each lens which show the focal length + minimum focus distance. Still not as nice as the Nisi's metal cap but better than the bare plastic I see for many others!

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks Matt, really appreciate it :) Yes mine didn’t come with a front cap where you could see the focal length.

[@diazfilms]

Great presentation and comparison. I like the dzo better. The nisi lenses look a bit too sharp for my liking. I would love to see you test and review the Dulens Apo Mini primes "vintage series"

[@pauleporterdp]

Thank you. Oh yes that would be great 😊

[@cinelensgeeky3648]

I would like to see your comparision between meike and Dzofilm

[@pauleporterdp]

I never got any samples from Meike. Even though I asked several times.

[@lorenmgroves]

Thanks for putting in the time to make these amazing videos!

[@pauleporterdp]

You’re welcome and I’m glad that you like them :)

[@iamkubrick]

I prefer the NISI - after years of using vintage lenses and ‘filters’ to soften the image because I thought it was more filmic. I discovered how wrong I was. Once you grade properly and have it projected onto a cinema screen. You’ll regret not having the sharpest lens possible.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback and for watching :)

[@Whaever_1981]

Keep on believing that

[@kudzanaimaneswa5800]

true i recently ditched my vintage ones

[@lkptlst3256]

not exactly but true

[@cine-ish]

I think your issue is using already optically soft lenses and softening them even further

[@dr.nathaliepruschenk7256]

great comparison paule. your content rocks :)

[@pauleporterdp]

Thank you so much ☺️

[@cine-ish]

I've seen contrasting results for chromatic abberations, on Keith Knittel's channel, the Athena had worse CA

[@pauleporterdp]

Ok good to know maybe it depends on the samples.

[@jacoporodolfi4806]

Great comparrison, love your channel. Can you do product shot / beauty with the vespid? I like them better but I'm woriied aboit CA when doing packshots. Very indicedided on which set to buy.... if you can reference any of your work shot with the vespid it would be very much apreciated! PS the Seven scene was simply beautiful.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thank you I really appreciate it :) I don’t have anything that is beauty unfortunately. I can see if I can setup a product shot. What would be helpful to you?

[@jacoporodolfi4806]

@@pauleporterdpthat would be awesome . I really like the vespids more, as you said they look much more organic, specially in rendering the skin tones. Thanks for replying!

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks 🙏 and I still would pick the vespids over the Athenas today.

[@MichaelHalsell]

3:04 The aberration is better controlled with NiSi. The Athena's seemed sharper overall.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching :)

[@tylerfukuda]

Nisi’s are killer. Wow.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching :)

[@ErisedMediaCo]

I’m thinking of the NiSi for my R5c and C70. As affordable as they are, though, almost $6k is still a lot of money for me to shell out.

[@pauleporterdp]

True it’s not cheap but compared to other cine lenses it is somewhat affordable. Thanks for watching

[@frankfeng2701]

One downside of Nisi is that you can't mount the speedbooster onto it, meaning C70 can't get the full-frame look with Nisi like with DZO.

[@enriquetoso]

The budget fiendly Cooke (DZO) vs Zeiss (NiSi) review!!

[@pauleporterdp]

You’re probably right ;)

[@johnnybermudez]

Great video, thanks for the insight!

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching you’re welcome ☺️

[@PHUKU]

How is none of these KZbinrs mentioning that this lense doesn’t come in E mount?

[@pauleporterdp]

E Mount isn’t considered to be a Mount used for cinematography. This is mostly PL as a standard and canon EF. That’s why these lenses only come in PL. but with E Mount you can easily adapt to PL

[@cine-ish]

E mount would be the worst mount to have on a cine lens (looking at the new Thypoch Cine lenses) as it basically closes the door for any other cameras to be used aside from the Sony bunch, when there are alot more people using cameras such as the BMPCC4K and other cine cams than exclusively the Sony ones.

[@pauleporterdp]

Absolutely correct 👍🏻

[@pablomarin1746]

Miles ahead I prefer the resolving power of Nissi

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching and your feedback

[@rks.studio]

Which is best cine lens for mtf camera

[@pauleporterdp]

There aren’t much native mft cine lenses. Could you adapt to EF or PL?

[@rks.studio]

@@pauleporterdp meike mtf lens are good option for bmpcc 4k

[@pauleporterdp]

True. meike isn’t bad

[@stephenlaurenceharvey6522]

music in this review was way too loud and distracting in my opinion, good review but hard to catch everything you were saying with that juxtaposed 80's euro background .

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching and your feedback

[@andynonimuss6298]

You can add flares in post. I prefer the color neutrally of the NiSi.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback :)

[@JonackFilm]

These lenses are nice.

[@pauleporterdp]

Which one? ;)

[@JonackFilm]

@@pauleporterdp both

[@pauleporterdp]

True

[@sonnyjostins6158]

Does the 25mm nisi work with the meike pl to rf drop in nd filter?

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching. I haven’t tested this combination.

[@cubul32]

Nisi rear's move so prob not

[@contentm3893]

To much blue / purple in the DZO. All around the NISI looks better and produces the more organic image. A yellow / green cast is much better than what DZO gives

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching :)

[@cine-ish]

Yellow/Green cast is horrible in the night