Nissan CVT Failure Diagnosis: 2010 Rogue AWD

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@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 7 жыл бұрын
Now we know why Ivan has so many MANUAL transmission cars. They are super-reliable!
@AdrianKingsleyHughes
@AdrianKingsleyHughes 7 жыл бұрын
That solenoid test was just awesome! Thanks for taking the time to show that, Ivan.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that would be the problem...but alas, the solenoid was fine!
@snw56
@snw56 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, this is a bad feeling. Almost as bad as being told by your doctor you need major surgery.
@codywichman213
@codywichman213 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan, great job on the video. Awesome job on breaking it down and picking a direction. Also I wanted to say that your wife made it almost 200k on the oem cvt unit, that's an accomplishment. Most of the ones I've diagnosed need a cvt unit around 60-80k. I've also seen two that were still under warranty
@scientist100
@scientist100 4 жыл бұрын
Jerking & shuddering would usually need a Valve body I read as they appear to fail and redirect oil incorrectly, current TSB says to not replace CVT but rather just the valve body. How true is this?
@Autofixpals
@Autofixpals 7 жыл бұрын
the price for a Nissan CVT is not bad at all. I have priced rebuilt Jasper regular transmissions that cost about 3k... CVT failure is not uncommon I change at least one a week at work (Nissan dealership) the most common reason is pressure loss. PC solenoid a or b. I have a 14 Maxima that I have to do this week. no, parts are not available to purchase for repair. you can get valve bodies but that won't fix your problem. it's a pretty easy CVT to change, the RF axle has a trick for easy removal (heat bracket and pry at the same time), subframe has to come out, front exhaust pipe, and transfer Case. that top trans mount is just that 16mm center nut, leave it on there by a few threads, put an old extension (1/2") on your 16mm socket and beat it down with a hammer till the trans drops down a bit. the rest of the job is pretty straight forward. feel free to hit me up if you have any questions, if your doing the job yourself. Kieth has my number.
@pingpongballz5998
@pingpongballz5998 7 жыл бұрын
Auto Fix Pal I have a 2012 Sentra. CVT lost power at 72k. I got a new transmission under warranty. Now I got 106k miles. This time I follow the 30k maintenance. I'm scared I'm out of warranty. Will the CVT be OK if I bring it in every 30k miles?
@Autofixpals
@Autofixpals 7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Sanchez no guarantee. it's not an issue of fluid maintenance..it's just that some CVTs don't last long.. lots of pressure loss failures (pressure control valves, pumps, etc). if pressure is lost and the CVT belt/chain starts to slip than it's pretty much a done deal. look on the bright side. I had a 2009 370z the other day that needed an automatic transmission and that transmission costs $9,800.00 Dollars new from Nissan before labor..CVT is only about $2300 from Nissan. but don't stress too much I'm hearing that the premature failure rate is about 8% to 10%. Ivan got 180k out of his CVT which is not bad for any transmission.
@pingpongballz5998
@pingpongballz5998 7 жыл бұрын
Auto Fix Pal I'm just worried coz I'm upside down on my auto loan. If the CVT goes out. I'm screwed.
@garyeast7259
@garyeast7259 7 жыл бұрын
you really should record the repairs too. I'm just trying too teach myself about this stuff and that's the best bit for me. love ur channel by the way
@547Rick
@547Rick 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, this sucks! Once a repair part starts hitting four figures. My stomach starts to turn over and over.
@stevec5657
@stevec5657 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with some of the other comments. Buy a "new" one, then split the case of the broken CVT and find the failed part. I think most us would love to see the inner workings of Nissan's own design one of these transmissions. Great video Ivan - thanks!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
I am very curious to see myself!! Hopefully I can still get the core refund after messing with it lol
@stevec5657
@stevec5657 7 жыл бұрын
Ah hah! If they require a core, then they have the parts available to repair it. Scallywags . . . . preventing anyone from fixing our own. Hopefully the parts do become available soon, lol.
@Tedybear315
@Tedybear315 7 жыл бұрын
That's how most of the stealerships 'roll'. Had a transmission blow out/break on a company mini van years ago. Dealership took care of it to the tune of 3600. I asked if they where rebuilding it or replacement. He said they no longer repair engines or transmissions- The core goes back to the 'plant' and from there it's rebuilt and sent back out again.... So a repair that might cost a few hundred to fix? Suddenly costs over 3grand...
@sergemarquis4996
@sergemarquis4996 Жыл бұрын
Sunbelt valve bodies have good videos on that.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 7 жыл бұрын
That's how the Fords are the CVT's are sealed units only a few small repair parts. The Freestyle CVT is over $5k so you got off easy there it could be worse. This is why Ford ditched the CVT trans idea in 2007.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Wow these transmissions are not cheap that is for sure. I just got a clean low-mileage transmission for my old '89 Mazda van for $360 shipped to my door...what a bargain in comparison!!
@makaitate6463
@makaitate6463 3 жыл бұрын
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@jakesalvador1583
@jakesalvador1583 3 жыл бұрын
@Makai Tate flixportal
@makaitate6463
@makaitate6463 3 жыл бұрын
@Jake Salvador Thanks, I went there and it seems to work :) I appreciate it !
@jakesalvador1583
@jakesalvador1583 3 жыл бұрын
@Makai Tate Glad I could help :D
@vasiliosskoulos9982
@vasiliosskoulos9982 7 жыл бұрын
At 186,000 miles, I think you got plenty from the transmission. The CVTs break down much earlier. It used to be a $7,000 bill. You may be able to get by for $3000. Considering that an automatic transmission overhaul would cost you about $2,300 to overhaul, this is not a bad deal. Nissans are great cars. I've owned 4 of them but none of them had CVT. Good luck Ivan. Great video.
@Nabeelco
@Nabeelco 7 жыл бұрын
CVT's should be the best, most easily repairable and cheapest to run transmissions. From a technical stand point, they are very simple. It's a shame all these car makers cut so many corners and have given CVTs a bad name.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 7 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it is only 2-3K, I thought it would be more. I hope you film the install, there won't be many videos like that on the net yet.
@bsgarey
@bsgarey 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah try $4600 on 2010 Altima
@practicalguy973
@practicalguy973 6 жыл бұрын
Try having the dealer install it, for many more hours labor costs on top.
@jamesmiller3297
@jamesmiller3297 7 жыл бұрын
That cvt may be a record holder at 186,000 miles. There are times when we have to tell a customer with less then 20,000 miles they need a new cvt trans. In those cases it is covered under warranty.
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 7 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. Most of the FCA vehicles die around the 45-50K mark. Only ones that seem to hold up are driven VERY lightly and not beaten.
@9fishwm
@9fishwm 7 жыл бұрын
Our 2007 murano has 300k on the engine and Cvt transmission and it's still all original too.
@anakinandy
@anakinandy 5 жыл бұрын
My moms cvt went out after a few months. The car was bought new. Replaced because warranty. Now it’s 8 years later and I’m just waiting for it to go out
@stevey500
@stevey500 5 жыл бұрын
Not a record holder at all. You just get to hear about the CVT failures out there because CVT's are different. You don't get to hear about the ones that have 200+k miles on them and still running fine because they're not complaining. lol. Nobody is writing articles about failing regular automatic transmissions because that happens, too but it's old news,
@kylemas2005
@kylemas2005 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevey500 Couldnt agree more. Theres a reason every 3rd car I see on the road is a Nissan. If the CVT was as unreliable as the alarmist would have you believe, you wouldnt see that.
@spdparts8924
@spdparts8924 7 жыл бұрын
Your best bet is to go through the dealer, we bought one for 08 rogue for 2200 and they supplied us with brand new unit with torque converter, switches, sensors and already filled with fluid. It's same price than getting it rebuild or used unit but has more value since you're getting new unit. When belt snaps it takes out sensors, case, pulleys and its hard to make a good unit out of junked unavailable parts. Don't bother with used or aftermarket rebuilds. Sorry about your trouble, but it's still cheaper than subaru 7k transmission. Also I change fluid in my wife's murano at 50k, fluid was already garbage, so don't trust with sensor or maintenance guide that says lifetime fluid.
@jd5179
@jd5179 7 жыл бұрын
im surprised it lasted 180k. most of CVT I encounter fails before 100k miles.
@bassinbillRC5300
@bassinbillRC5300 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2013 Nissan Rogue that I replace the CVT fluid 40,000 miles after I bought the car. Both the transmission and the engine ran wonderful after changing out the CVT fluid and oil changes for the new serpentine belt on it motor flush for the coolant. Had I not had a inattentive driver plowing the back of my car in Atlanta a year-and-a-half ago I love you still driving the same car.
@LuLuzjourney
@LuLuzjourney 4 жыл бұрын
William Prieto if u take it to the dealer or even a valvoline place do they automatically flush at this mileage or do you have to tell them to do it?
@scientist100
@scientist100 4 жыл бұрын
Would a valve body replacement solve a jerk, shudder issue? there is an active TSB on Sentras (mine is 2014) where it tells you if you have one of the active codes from the table then the valve body replacement is applicable. It doesn't say anything about symptoms but I'm having driving issues where the RPM drops from like 3500 to 2500 during accel. TSB also suggests not to replace the CVT if previous bulletins said to do so after diag. Thank you for any advice.
@bassinbillRC5300
@bassinbillRC5300 3 жыл бұрын
@Cheech Vitale you just need to change the CVT fluid every 30,000 miles. Any problems with the transmission should be covered under your extended warranty
@bassinbillRC5300
@bassinbillRC5300 3 жыл бұрын
@Cheech Vitale everything that I have on my car is running really good right now. I have a $158,000 mi on my 2014 Nissan Rogue. Engine, CVT transmission, rear differential because I do have all-wheel drive is doing fine. I told a 15 ft fiberglass boat with no issues over the last year with my Nissan Rogue.
@DieElspethDie
@DieElspethDie 7 жыл бұрын
CVT's are for snowmobiles
@godofdestructiondiecast6756
@godofdestructiondiecast6756 5 жыл бұрын
I think they should continue to leave them on snowmobiles then rather put them on cars
@IwCk
@IwCk 5 жыл бұрын
Oh well. They are almost in every 2020 cars now. All new car buyer will be fucked.
@liveandletlive2894
@liveandletlive2894 4 жыл бұрын
And ATV's my Kawasaki 4x4 has a CVT
@guseks8413
@guseks8413 4 жыл бұрын
I mean 186k miles aint bad. Many regular autos are shot at that milage too, especially if you have been towing.
@syankha8329
@syankha8329 4 жыл бұрын
Not all cars are cvt on 2020 ya know. If you want manual transmission, you can also buy used cars.
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 7 жыл бұрын
I have driven all three transmission types. Automatic, Manual and CVT. For a modest to moderate power engine, A CVT cannot be beat. They just flat out work. For their smoothness, economy and performance they are my choice. The exception would be a fun time car like a Mazda Miata or Mustang. Compared to the current crop of automatics and manuals, a CVT has way more gear ratio choices, is lighter, smaller and a whole lot less complex with far fewer parts. If they figure out how to make them work and last with high torque and high horsepower engines without breaking, they will take over. Since they are computer controlled, making them work like a floppy paddle manual or slap stick shift should be a piece of cake.
@Theridesharetechnician
@Theridesharetechnician 7 жыл бұрын
For sure you need to record the install. And as a matter of fact, if you ever are asking yourself whether you should make a video or not, that is an automatic yes to do so.
@CheezyDee
@CheezyDee 7 жыл бұрын
My 2011 Sentra owners manual says to change the CVT trans fluid every 60,000 miles. Just before it hit 60K I bought 8 quarts of NS-2 and changed the fluid, still going @ 75K. It only used like 5 quarts though. Since you have to pull the trans anyway, might as well tear it apart, check for a blown gasket or cracked pump, etc.
@codetech4733
@codetech4733 5 жыл бұрын
I have Nissan Altima 2013 SV 2.5L My Car lose power while I'm driving , and it's not accelerating. I call Nissan affairs customer service, I asked them if my car has a recall for the Transmission, They told me No, I ask them for Assistant to fix my car. She said yes, we can open case for you but you have to go to the dealer for diagnostic test, I told her They Asked $200 for diagnostic test. I went there they said it's not the transmission it's the MAF need to be reprogrammed, and I pay $370 for that, problem came again next day, I call Nissan they asked me to do the diagnostic test again and pay another $200 I agreed, in the end they told me Transmission need to be replaced, Nissan Company called me and she said because you have high mileage we will not be able to assist you, I told her you know my mileage from the beginning why you asked me to went to the dealer for the test and pay $370 and $200 and $288. and you already had the decision in advanced? I recommend every body don't buy Nissan their car is piece of Junk. They work with dealer to make money from you don't buy their car it's not reliable
@jimjones5644
@jimjones5644 4 жыл бұрын
It worked for Nissan
@IBenZik
@IBenZik Жыл бұрын
Ivan be thankful she didn't say "I'm pregnant" and now you will change your life forever. I hope someday you have smart kids like you.
@rhkips
@rhkips 7 жыл бұрын
You don't know how badly I want to get my hands on that transmission to do a comprehensive autopsy...
@MrNunna
@MrNunna 4 жыл бұрын
I understand your curiosity but especially under warranty, the manufacturers WANT THEM BACK. I really believe they would rather not have mechanics look inside.
@markawhite1959
@markawhite1959 7 жыл бұрын
i buy and sell cars for a living...have done it for 35 years. nissan used to be one of the best! the whole line-up was solid! now they're just crap....expensive to work on, transmission you can't fix. on my list of cars not to buy now!!!!
@chungaleta1234
@chungaleta1234 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, I'm really sorry Ivan, your face at the end of the video says it all, pure frustration. Can't you install a different type of transmission on these vehicles? Anyway, if you film the job, I'll sure watch.
@nottyash100
@nottyash100 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for diagnosis and your conclusion is similar to my own, I have an 2008 Altima 100,000 miles so far no problems, but unlike my previous car a Pontiac still running with 186000 miles on it, the Nissan will not make that distance. It will be cheaper to fix it currently than purchase a new vehicle, I will be trying a KIA or a Sonata next time, no more Nissan's for me
@paulcarroll750
@paulcarroll750 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, sorry to see you having to work on your own vehicles. I kind of felt bad about giving your video a thumbs up when the end result is having to buy a new transmission.
@whitetiger8652
@whitetiger8652 7 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the diagnosis.I feel your pain with the price of the transmission but as you said its a lot cheaper than another car.
@rmcracing69
@rmcracing69 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the Rogue, but on the Murano you have to drop the engine/CVT with the subframe. So, you'd need a lift for that.
@MTTech
@MTTech 7 жыл бұрын
rmcracing69 Tow to Eric O! lol.
@johnnutt2021
@johnnutt2021 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, just followed your video on the trans problem with the Nissan. My son & daughter-in-law just had their 2015 Pathfinder trans replaced by Nissan (still under warranty & they still wanted to charge for the repairs ! ) That's what they were told also,replace no teardown !!
@KCautodoctor
@KCautodoctor 7 жыл бұрын
Certain dealers get lazy and do not want to have to keep training people in the specialized repair of transmissions -- they can have any tech R&R a unit and if anything is wrong with the "new" unit then just slap another one in until they get a good unit. These transmissions are absolutely rebuildable -- we have been working on these JATCO CVTs for years. Parts are available from our suppliers. Just because the dealer does not sell individual parts does not mean they are not available from very reputable aftermarket part vendors. We have rebuilt 100's of these units and never had a unit fail after we have repaired them using parts from our suppliers.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Wow a 2015? That is just poor engineering.
@jacobwhittaker6241
@jacobwhittaker6241 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to an update on it, I've got a Nissan Versa SV with the CVT and even though its been the most reliable vehicle we have It's always been in the back of my mind on how long this CVT is gonna last and what exactly will fail on it.
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
@aerialrescuesolutions3277 Жыл бұрын
Change the fluid and filter for sure.
@jacobwhittaker6241
@jacobwhittaker6241 Жыл бұрын
@@aerialrescuesolutions3277 Absolutely. I've been getting the fluid changed every spring since 2014 when I got it. It's got 130k on it and still going. The goal is to get past 200k. Lol
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 7 жыл бұрын
Funny how people are complaining that a 7 or 8 year old car (depending sale date) with nearly 200K mi. and first breakdown is crap.
@KCautodoctor
@KCautodoctor 7 жыл бұрын
People quickly forget (or are too young) to remember when it was common to have automatic transmissions overhauled every 30k to 50k miles. Today's automatic transmissions are manufactured much more precisely and use fluids that are so much more durable than ever imagined even 20 years ago.
@Reaper1947
@Reaper1947 7 жыл бұрын
No shit what do people expect ? Those cars only cost 20K brand new , and on top of that the CVT I think has a 120K mile warranty , and even better ZERO called for maintenance on it . A girl made a video of the wrecker hauling away her older GM car to the wrecking yard that paid her about $400 for it for scrap . This car looked as if it had been dipped in sin and drug through misery for decades . In the video she said she would never ever buy another GM built car . NOW GET THIS ! She bought the car used for $500.00 . TheReaper!
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 7 жыл бұрын
Hell, I remember cars with "remove the head every 10,000 miles and de-coke the valves and combustion chamber." And yes, I'm old. :-P
@KCautodoctor
@KCautodoctor 7 жыл бұрын
You are not that old since I also remember working on those vehicles. We just have lived through the rapid evolution of vehicles requiring major service every 10,000 miles to now cars being driven for 20k miles before the engine oil even needs changing, let alone any major repairs.
@tomwalma4762
@tomwalma4762 7 жыл бұрын
I also remember replacing timing belt every 40-60.000 Km in Fiat crap; by factory specs
@LukeTehGamer1
@LukeTehGamer1 7 жыл бұрын
If you do replace the transmission yourself, take it to nissan afterward to get the eeprom reset, only nissan consult 3 can reset the learning values. We are required always with valve body replacement or trans replacement to reset them.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Yup that's the plan, and the only option!
@nickbee1291
@nickbee1291 7 жыл бұрын
The Jatco CVT strikes down another one. My wife's 09 Altima has been outrageously reliable but with 150k on the clock I know she was on borrowed time with the transmission. I just got her in to a new car a couple weeks ago and I'll drive the Nissan until that trans takes a dump and maybe fix it. I work at a Suzuki dealer and I just put a new jatco built CVT in a kizashi yesterday. Suzuki suffers the same issues.
@renedelafuente123
@renedelafuente123 7 жыл бұрын
Liked your video. I have a 07 Nissan Sentra CVT transmission 132 thousand miles. Hopefully it won't leave me stranded one day. Have a 2000 Ford EXpedition with 215 thous. miles that did leave me stranded b/c of trans. going bad. Overhaul on it was 900 bucks plus new torque converter 125 dllrs. Runs like a champ now.
@johnaclark1
@johnaclark1 7 жыл бұрын
I have four daughters...One is 22, and another is 16. Both of them are driving now and they are both driving manual transmission cars. They both like them. They didn't at first but now that they're used to them they like 'em. The third daughter gets a permit next week. I plan on teaching the other two how to drive manuals, too. Someday they may buy their own cars that are autos, and that's fine, but at least they'll always be able to hop into anything and drive it comfortably. I see complaints about the CVT's but 186K isn't too bad for any automatic transmission. It's definitely not premature failure. It's always bad timing, and unexpected large expenses always suck, but 186K on the trans isn't that bad really.
@AudiophileTubes
@AudiophileTubes 7 жыл бұрын
Don't you think 16 is too young to drive?
@johnaclark1
@johnaclark1 7 жыл бұрын
We have to start somewhere. I drove (on our own property) at 13. Driving on public roads is just as much a matter of maturity. Some kids are ready at 16 and some probably aren't.
@dhill6025
@dhill6025 7 жыл бұрын
AudiophileTubes What? You can get a driver's license at 16...
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 6 жыл бұрын
You're a Women's Man. Well done. You did your part and best, it's their problem w/e they end up choosing later.
@MrAI831
@MrAI831 7 жыл бұрын
Same thing happen to our 2015 Nissan Sentra w/CVT transmission. It is a commuter so too many miles, therefore, out of warranty. According to local mechanics and specialized transmission shops this one is not rebuildable. Good thing I found a used transmission. Never again will i buy a car with a CVT trani I'm sticking with a manual transmission.
@AdrianKingsleyHughes
@AdrianKingsleyHughes 7 жыл бұрын
I always find it much tougher working my own vehicles.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is hard to find the time...but sometimes it is satisfying!
@claytonmagnet1484
@claytonmagnet1484 7 жыл бұрын
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes I always find myself leaving the issue until the very, bitter end before I deal with it hahaha
@andrewthompsonuk1
@andrewthompsonuk1 7 жыл бұрын
Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics When working on your own vehicles just think of all the taxes you are saving.
@ericcorse
@ericcorse 7 жыл бұрын
We want to see the change out . Ivan did Nissan offer non CVT auto transmissions? Rock Auto offers rebuilt kits for an auto trans in 2010 Rouge
@GarthGoldberg
@GarthGoldberg 7 жыл бұрын
$2,600 doesn't actually sound that bad for a transmission. I assume that's with a core return.
@andrewthompsonuk1
@andrewthompsonuk1 7 жыл бұрын
Garth Goldberg Often manufacturers lower the price on something when it fails all the time. Probably best to just pay in this case... However a fully researched rebuild would make an amazing video series.
@roger_revo
@roger_revo 7 жыл бұрын
It would be very useful if you showed us how to repair the transmission.
@ahill007ny
@ahill007ny 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan I have the same problem only difference is it's when I travel to visit my family cars usually break or are already broken when i arrive or when I head back home. As far as the CVT goes at least you made it to 186,000 the way Scotty Kilmer describes them they normally don't last that long. People say the CVT break with out warning I always thought it was a joke but seeing your wife's did that I'm now a believer. I hope you do film the R&R and tear down if you have the time. Nice diagnosis!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Stanley, yeah I guess 186k isn't too bad for a CVT. Can't imagine how much earlier it would have blown up if any of those miles were city or light towing lol
@MJGZ51
@MJGZ51 7 жыл бұрын
I Like Nissan in general but their CVT transmissions are notorious for problems. I would never think of pulling one from a junked car. Buy a new one and it "should" outlast the time you have the vehicle.
@KCautodoctor
@KCautodoctor 7 жыл бұрын
These transmissions are absolutely rebuildable -- we have been working on these JATCO CVTs for years. Parts are available from our suppliers. Just because the dealer does not sell individual parts does not mean they are not available from very reputable aftermarket part vendors. We have rebuilt 100's of these units and never had a unit fail after we have repaired them using parts from our suppliers.
@ebonithomas1981
@ebonithomas1981 6 жыл бұрын
KCautodoctor where can you find the parts? My 2008 rogue is doing same. Mechanic is saying new transmission from nissan. 😔
@victoraberdeen1299
@victoraberdeen1299 7 жыл бұрын
A Nissan P0720 fault code is usually caused by a faulty revolution/vehicle speed sensor.It is not uncommon also to encounter a faulty MAP/Baro sensor intermittently causing a similar problem.
@MACTFordEdge
@MACTFordEdge 7 жыл бұрын
186,000 miles and you never changed the fluid in the transmission? Test it and I bet you find out you should of changed it a long time ago. Transmission fluid is cheaper than a new transmission.
@billyr9840
@billyr9840 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, I made wife put the number for a local tow truck company that I've been dealing with for many years in her phone for that exact same reason ! Get it towed to my garage !!!! Also, after having to come and rescue her off the freeway with five gallons of gas, when I first met her, I will not let her go under a half a tank of fuel or we got problems ! LOL ! Take Care 1 Now I will finish watching your vid ! Had to vent a little bit ! LOL !
@billyr9840
@billyr9840 7 жыл бұрын
After watching the vid a few more seconds, you might be getting that dreaded call again and another tow fee ! LOL !
@billyr9840
@billyr9840 7 жыл бұрын
No pump pressure, blown seals !
@billyr9840
@billyr9840 7 жыл бұрын
Do the re-build Ivan ! I got confidence in you !
@dbau9997
@dbau9997 7 жыл бұрын
Will there be a part 2? Great videos Ivan, very informative!
@brianw4brian
@brianw4brian 7 жыл бұрын
check for fluid​ pressure actually seeing it come out. like my other comment maybe the filter cracked along where it is molded together. transstar is a place to ask.
@R.E.HILL_
@R.E.HILL_ 7 жыл бұрын
what is this Ivan? where is your can do attitude? rip it apart and fix it! thx for sharing. looking forward to the next one.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Invite Dr. O up for a visit, you two pull out the trans and make an epic trans R&R&R video. Just an idea. lol Bummer Ivan. Thanks for sharing the diagnosis.
@MTTech
@MTTech 7 жыл бұрын
Baxrok2 yes! Eric needs to be in the video!
@kittty2005
@kittty2005 4 жыл бұрын
I like it when you do non automotive repairs,less suspense,but then if a car ever fell off a jack on you it would never be posted,please use jack stands or fire wood or concrete blocks,you scare me,seriously.Pardon me, you used one this time thank you,you are a professional after all,hugs.
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 7 жыл бұрын
You know I'm sure i remember a client telling me his hybrid RAV4 broke down and got towed because the CVT failed and Toyota replaced it under warranty and the dealer told him to buy the CVT for cash at the current time would have cost him £11,000. To be honest Ivan i think you're pretty lucky it lasted this long. They are pretty weak peices of technology. I have driven an 06 Honda Jazz CVT and a 17 plate Honda Jazz CVT. The first one still had a cable operated throttle and the ZF CVT and it was kind of weird but it was pretty smooth, not all that responsive but good MPG. The latest ones are awful. Even if you snap the accelerator you can't get much response out of them. Although a 1.4 petrol which can get better MPG than a lot of diesels is pretty impressive. I would never own one. Most of the ones i know about are low mileage. No more than 80,000 miles. I would be interested if you would kick the camera on at anything out of the ordinary during the process if you do replace it. I have never changed a CVT before. I have only pulled manual boxes. My guess is these Rogues are similar in design to the Quashqai and Jukes and i know there are quite a few of them knocking about with CVT's.
@denniskazich7559
@denniskazich7559 Жыл бұрын
Have a 2012 with 45,000 on it. Hopefully I get the mileage you got lol. You are a master of diag. Doing it for 35 years and you are 5 stars.
@willemstreutgers1154
@willemstreutgers1154 7 жыл бұрын
The CVT was invented by Mr. Huub Van Doorne(a Dutchman). First he invented in 1958 the Variomatic with rubberbands. The "pushband" form the prototype is still in a "safe" and had run for more than 650.000 miles whithout any problems. Though they need special care, use the correct oil and follow the mainenance prescibed. Also look at : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuously_variable_transmission Sorry to say they are not suitable for persons who used to neglect to maintain their cars.
@batchnerd
@batchnerd 7 жыл бұрын
If the old unit is not required for a core exchange, I would like to see a video of you tearing down the old one and see if there is a obvious failure.
@vizualizeit08
@vizualizeit08 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, better check tsb or call dealer, these transmissions were covered under warranty for a while now, not sure about mileage limitation...
@eleeter
@eleeter 7 жыл бұрын
Original transmission fluid? There's your problem lady.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
nah that is not the problem in this case. Actually I'm happy I didn't waste money on new fluid since the trans grenaded anyways haha
@eleeter
@eleeter 7 жыл бұрын
I actually don't know if these CVTs benefit from fluid changes just tossing the Eric O. line out there. BTW the price of a new transmission is very reasonable.
@DarrelllCampbelll
@DarrelllCampbelll 4 жыл бұрын
@@eleeter not hardly reasonable. Its upcharged because its in demand.
@stevey500
@stevey500 5 жыл бұрын
This might have been mentioned but there is a mechanical line pressure gizmo in there that is aluminum on aluminum. I've read that there are third party upgrade parts for this. This does require cracking open the CVT though to get to it but its cheaper than a new transmission.
@stevey500
@stevey500 5 жыл бұрын
Oh. I watched the teardown video. Yikes.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 7 жыл бұрын
Friends _had_ a Dodge Caliber with one of these CVT transmissions. The CVT was replaced under warranty THREE times before the car reached 60,000 miles. Symptoms would be the same each time. During normal driving, an orange light related to the CVT in the instrument cluster, loss of power, and then a red light related to the CVT in the instrument cluster. Towed to the dealer... needs a replacement CVT. Car was sold for next to nothing as soon as it was out of warranty. Too many people already know about the problems and $$$ involved with CVTs. I know someone else who had a Nissan Murano, and same situation, nothing but expensive problems. *STEER CLEAR OF CVTs* unless you have a deep wallet for after they are out of the warranty period.
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 7 жыл бұрын
Did the fluid smell burnt? Yank out the trans and then see if you can take it apart to find the culprit.
@WrenchingOnCars
@WrenchingOnCars 7 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos, but this one was making me crazy. Whenever I have had a transmission issue like this one, there was always transmission fluid all over the place and the transmission was either empty or nearly so. When you got under the car, everything looked dry and in the very last minutes of the video you finally show the fluid level. I have never owned a CVT automatic but am not crazy about the technology, especially in a larger vehicle. Your data is saying there is no pressure, indicating a pump failure or a major seal given that the fluid is OK. Keep up the good work, but you might want to do more visual inspection before digging into the scanner. If possible, could you show what is wrong with the transmission in a future video?
@alanhester9984
@alanhester9984 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't need a Verus to diagnosis that one, 2 clues "Nissan & CVT" !
@sharedknowledge6640
@sharedknowledge6640 7 жыл бұрын
186k isn't too bad for any automatic. And I looked up book on a 2010 Rogue with 186k and its around $2k to $2500 retail and $1400 trade in. So a new tranny isn't a no brainier to me. You also had the passenger seat sensor failure and Nissan wanted you to buy a whole new seat. What's next? It could turn into a money pit with that many miles so I'd probably sell it as and get something with way lower miles. It's unfortunate they don't sell cut parts but aftermarket does? I wonder if the chain broke?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Wow I thought it would retail for at least 5k or so...especially with a new transmission!
@workingshlub8861
@workingshlub8861 7 жыл бұрын
we have an altima with cvt and it makes me nervous....tried talking my girlfriend out of it explaining these transmissions are expensive and most rebuild guys do not even bother...just hit 100k and keeping my fingers crossed.
@joevera8762
@joevera8762 7 жыл бұрын
When that happened in my time the first thing I would do is check the oil level while the engine is running if the oil is high turn engine off check the oil again no change pump is broken
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@syankha8329
@syankha8329 4 жыл бұрын
For nissans its different, bro. Its always the cvt.
@TheOwlGuy777
@TheOwlGuy777 7 жыл бұрын
I've got 300,000 on 2 liter Sentra with a planetary automatic and LSD. Not a single problem out of it ever. All of the problems with the new CVT has me seriously looking at staying with traditional planetary transmissions.
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 6 жыл бұрын
What year Sentra?
@Reaper1947
@Reaper1947 7 жыл бұрын
Actually all things considered you did pretty well to get that many miles out of it . I would guess , the vast majority of any automatic transmission cars never see that many miles before they need work . Also the price for a brand new one is only about 2500 , that is DAMN cheap for an automatic transmission that will go almost 200,000 miles . Personally since I've worked on CVT's and have seen the insides of that exact transmission , I don't know how they sell them that cheap . TheReaper!
@andreasmaltcke117
@andreasmaltcke117 7 жыл бұрын
Hmm ... "signal from primary pressure sensor should be about 0,7 to 1,2 v. If not OK perform line pressure test". Signal is out of range (0,1 -0,16v ?). I know, I know! Without pressure there is no voltage. But the broken sensor will also not show the pressure. Still unsure whether the problem is a defective sensor or a lack of pressure. Probably a defective pump (or anything inside the gearbox), but until the sensor has given the incorrect voltage to the TCM the transmission will not work (even with the pressure).
@Drtbiker88
@Drtbiker88 7 жыл бұрын
looking forward to future videos of you installing it I think you should, would make for a good learning experience.
@hybrid11111
@hybrid11111 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry for this happened to you, the transmission break on your Nissan. Maybe you will find a way to fix it, with aftermarket parts. ***I also have a car with automatic transmission, not cvt, and I try to take care of it as much as I can, to prevent this kind of problems. I need to check the ATF level, but as the transmission is the so called sealed, to do this I have to unplug the level plug, with engine running and transmission in P. THE PROBLEM IS that, for this procedure, the ATF temperature must be a specific one. I searched the entire internet, but I was unable to find what that temperature must be. I hope that you will be able to help me, as you have acces to service information. My car is Opel / Vauxhall Corsa E, 2015, 1.4 gasoline, with 6 speed automatic hydraulic transmission. Thank you for your help!
@opl500
@opl500 7 жыл бұрын
>Nissan CVT >failure Isn't that being redundant? Has there ever been a case where a CVT has suceeded?
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 7 жыл бұрын
That sucks. Those situations when you are fully capable of working on something only to find out the manufacture cock blocks it, and the aftermarket has not gone for the reach around. I suppose that would cost the average owner close to 5k by the time labor etc is added. I'm pretty ticked and it's not even mine to deal with.
@kmac6399
@kmac6399 7 жыл бұрын
I worked at a Nissan dealer for 5 years. We replaced those CVTs constantly. Pull the pan off the transmission I guarantee its full of metal shavings, chunks, and usually peices of the broken belt. Common failure. Get a low miles used unit if possible. They are fairly easy to replace as far as transmissions go.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
I'll pull the pan on the old one just to see if there is any obvious carnage :)
@rollingrockfan2482
@rollingrockfan2482 7 жыл бұрын
Great video but it does suck for a trans replace seems to be a consistent with cvt transmissions, but with 186,000 miles any transmission will or could have problems.
@noelcastillo2883
@noelcastillo2883 Жыл бұрын
I have the same vehicle it get me scare what I ve"hear about this cars transmissions now I am thinking in changing this for another vehicle that I now it don"t have these issues . thank you for your videos my friend they are excellent
@mrklimczyk
@mrklimczyk 6 жыл бұрын
The problem based on research is insufficient cooling. I seen people install universal trans coolers and bypass the original cooler. If it gets too hot, it will slip and have to cool down
@comingundone27
@comingundone27 7 жыл бұрын
Cant be disappointed in 186,000 miles in my opinion. I have seen transmissions under 100k with chunks coming out with the pan during a fluid change.
@thykingdomworld
@thykingdomworld 7 жыл бұрын
how did cars get this complicated? Selonoids, primary speed sensors, hydraulic sensors,line pressure? etc
@keithfrisell4271
@keithfrisell4271 7 жыл бұрын
I feel ur pain if it was one of ur cars put on back burner for another day, but since it's mommas fix it like yesterday! Good luck with it and have a good weekend. Keith
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 жыл бұрын
Your not alone Ivan. Every time I leave for work my wife has a problem. (ha ha) Sucks you have to deal with that cost but from the comments below there might be some options. I sent you a PM on a different subject.
@shawnedwards2227
@shawnedwards2227 7 жыл бұрын
u can do a line pressure check but that code we just put a new cvt in and add transcooler cvt a or b count might be high which I don't know if that scanner can show you depends on the count you can do a valve body or if it's too high rec cvt
@leletipiham8156
@leletipiham8156 4 жыл бұрын
I have Nissan Rogue 13. After 100000 mls, happens lost power once in a year, especially on the stops after running about an hour, but not completely lost power. When happens like this I pull over on the road side, stop engine about five minits I start again, it runs as normal. I change transmission oil and filter. It’s good
@dannynelson2763
@dannynelson2763 7 жыл бұрын
flow control valve might be sticking its located in the pump. there bad to wear with high mileage it will cause no line pressure. i'm thinking more on a pully went bad leaking all the pressure that trans can be built there parts available not thru nissan tho
@shanebryan8151
@shanebryan8151 5 жыл бұрын
First I want to say thank you for taking the time for making these videos I recently purchased a 2011 Nissan Altima and was able to repair the transmission thanks to your videos. With that I purchased a 2012 Nissan Rogue and felt that it was just the filters but just to be on the safe side I went ahead and tore the transmission apart just to make sure the in Drive was okay got it back together shift forward just fine but there's no reverse now I would greatly appreciate your Insight on what I might have done wrong as I've torn apart the transmission twice
@henanren
@henanren 4 жыл бұрын
No reverse implies that there's no fluid flow to the reverse clutch. Check the solenoid for the reverse clutch or the seals related to it.
@shanebryan8151
@shanebryan8151 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it was just a rubber seal that went between the cylinoids and the pump. Guy over at whatever it takes transmission was correct! And these transmissions are great! Only real problem is it has 2 filters. 2nd filter is rather hidden, thus its rarely changed, thus creating more pressure thus creating problems
@BigDog50001
@BigDog50001 7 жыл бұрын
Dorman makes replacement parts for those CVTs.....
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
nooooooooooo lol
@EMdemo
@EMdemo 5 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics lmaooo
@600lwp
@600lwp 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics But you could get Eric o to order them for you, not a sponsor
@alexandermartincausey7333
@alexandermartincausey7333 3 жыл бұрын
There you have it, folks. Don't buy a Nissan with a CVT. The rest of it is a pretty good car; but unless you can do your own work, expect to add $1000+ for 8.6 hours of labor, plus shop markup, "shop supplies", taxes, etc. The car's totaled all because they had to be different and put a special transmission in it. This is not an isolated incident. These transmissions have systemic problems. I'm honestly surprised it made it this long. Most don't even make it 100k. Nissans are vehicles to lease new, but never to buy used.
@vinmarz
@vinmarz 6 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence with CVTs but now you couldn't give me one
@rusco321
@rusco321 7 жыл бұрын
Do you think if you would've​ serviced the CVT at every 50k miles it could've​ held up longer?
@KCautodoctor
@KCautodoctor 7 жыл бұрын
Not likely - the fluid in CVTs does not get contaminated like they do in "regular" automatic transmissions with friction material from clutch packs and bands
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
No, in this case it was a sudden component failure, not a wear or slipping issue due to bad fluid.
@robry84
@robry84 7 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear Ivan. Will you video the transmission replacement?
@CleanSC
@CleanSC 7 жыл бұрын
Damn Ivan... That's a bad one. I've never really liked CVT's, but that's mostly because I hate driving them. What's the blue book value on this car? If it's high enough, install a used unit and sell it off before it fails or trade it for a RAV4 with a trans good for 400k+. ;) Sorry, I had to toss that one in. Haha Nissan hasn't been the same since Ghosn. He ended their glory days of the 90's in an aggressive attempt to lower their debt and return them to profitability. And he did, perhaps too well. Those cuts had to come from somewhere. :/ Either way, 186k is a good run, I suppose. I mean yes there are other cars that would do that and much more no problem. But, if she liked the car and it was trouble free until now, it's not so bad. You make a point on the fuel savings. However, since her miles are mostly highway, perhaps a CVT isn't that advantageous here? So I'll suggest it again: RAV4 slushbox. ;) Under your care, that sumbitch will run forever. Keep us posted on how you get on with this one. We're all curious as to the direction you take with this one and it would be good advice for the next guy that is facing this issue.
@robertlenane3358
@robertlenane3358 7 жыл бұрын
that sucks Ivan I feel for ya buddy one check I was wondering about if the pressure sensor is lying to tcm will it shut er down would have like to see pressure transducer check of the high pressure line ... did it say their was a test port in that line ? but I do think your diagnosis is awesome love your channel ..... the fab four Ivan, Eric, Paul, and Keith
@KCautodoctor
@KCautodoctor 7 жыл бұрын
There are 2 special pressure adapters needed to test the pressures on JATCO CVTs. Either buy the special adapters (either directly from OTC / Miller Tools or try eBay) or scavenge pressure port plugs out of a junk JATCO CVT & modify them by drilling & tapping the center of the plugs to fit threads of common pressure testers. Modifying and reusing the plugs in the original trans is subject to your own level of confidence (successfully modifying them and then plugging them so they do not leak after you are done testing - remember these CVTs easily create over 1000psi) , knowing if you mess them up then you have no choice but to get replacements off another JATCO CVT.
@weldingjunkie
@weldingjunkie 6 жыл бұрын
I’m having a cvt 3.5 step motor issue on my Altima I got one on amazon but didn’t fix it. Think it’s a crap stepper? I’m pulling code 1777. I cannot figure out on that model where to check the wire harness, any suggestions? The help would be greatly appreciated Should I change the whole valve body?
@themechanic6117
@themechanic6117 7 жыл бұрын
I came in expecting it to be low on fluid or a bad solenoid....this sucks. my gfs 14 Altima feels like it's starting to have trans problems at 60k miles...
@bradleygoode116
@bradleygoode116 7 жыл бұрын
may be worth a try to check pump pressure at the cooler line with a gauge. i looked at rockauto to see if any parts their very little no valvebody or pump. I would pull the pan and see if something has stopped up the pickup screen before i pull the trans out. there was a rebuild kit on rockauto for $200 but I not sure what It includes.
@BUGDOCTOR40
@BUGDOCTOR40 7 жыл бұрын
if you replace the trans remember to put on the external trans cooler from nissan
@ripcordres
@ripcordres 5 жыл бұрын
Ivan, I work in the repair industry as well on Medical Imaging equipment and spend time on the road and like you..... every time i am away for work something always breaks at home.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
It's guaranteed!
@nicknicu1787
@nicknicu1787 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry to see this Ivan,especially since it's your personal vehicle... ☹️
@lightningsmokerXx
@lightningsmokerXx 7 жыл бұрын
make sure you oil that Nissan at Krown Rust Control Ivan if you are gonna keep it. If the next transmission stays good, rust might get it first. Get your money out of it.
@aciddiver1978
@aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын
Is it often due to lack of oil changes in automatic transmissions?
@jimzivny1554
@jimzivny1554 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, sorry for the trans failure. I come from a different world I guess, 100,000 miles left on the fluid life??? I have always replaced trans fluid and filter between 25-30k, never had sludge, burnt fluid, pressure issues, a few solenoid and switch problems. The fluid has no magic properties, tremendous heat, heating and cooling cycles, stop n go traffic, if you tow the fluid gets bad faster. I enjoyed the video I'm just surprised that some knucklehead thought the fluid would last forever, then why replace the engine oil? Shouldn't it last also? I know I'm old LOL, I always overmaintain my vehicles but it works! Looking forward to the conclusion.
@KCautodoctor
@KCautodoctor 7 жыл бұрын
The fluid in CVTs does not get contaminated like they do in "regular" automatic transmissions with friction material from clutch packs and bands. CVT trans fluid wears out due to heat & contamination from liquids (i.e. water or coolant) - which is why the recommended fluid replacement intervals are so much longer than for "regular" transmissions.
@jamesfenton7338
@jamesfenton7338 6 жыл бұрын
Makes me crazy that you don't pop the hood and check fluids first. First step is always a visual inspection, we would run new mechanics that didn't do this out of the shop back at the dealerships. Go for the codes first, I guess when you have a hammer every problem becomes a nail. I am not saying never check codes, but look under the hood first.
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