Nissan Leaf - Battery ID Secrets DESTROYED [FINALE]

Massive thanks to all my Patreon supporters. Like the reverse engineering efforts? Consider supporting the channel: / dala

[@stedavid13]

Well done! It's sad Nissan threw so many barriers in the way of customers who want to swap out their battery pack, but thankfully amazing people like you exist to thwart their thwarting efforts 😂 Thank you!

[@PlanetCypher_]

Great discovery Dala, I want to buy one of your CAN bridges now and I dont have a Nissan.😁

[@DalasEVRepair]

Just hop onto Patreon instead, better way to support these efforts 😂

[@jimcabezola3051]

A masterpiece, Dala! Cheers, mate!

[@1grizzlyrizzo]

Nice, I love it when little workarounds like that come up.

[@erikrummel6277]

This is awesome. Now I just have to learn more about the CANbridge so I can try it!!!!

[@nunorguedes]

Great work! What a massive finding :D, I can't wait to get my hands on an upgrade to 40kWh, and these kind of findings will make upgrades easyer and easyer! Thanks a lot for your dedication to this cause, it's super useful!

[@ralphlink08]

You deserve a million subscribers...🤜

[@paulkennett]

Fiendishly clever. Well done

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks! And this was discovered by accident whilst trying to fix another bug 😂

[@RajGiandeep]

Well done my friend. big win for you & your customers!

[@tucsonor]

Realy great work.

[@niroshann280]

Well done!!! So simple in the end!

[@Kallenator1988]

Well done Dala!

[@eddiestevenson-kaatsch6306]

You... you are CLEVER! Well done!

[@pashko90]

Whaaaat? Ppls at Nissan are crazy! How to even have some check bits, sending a zero's are can be counted as valid value! This is mad!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Sure is 😂

[@pekkis924]

Amazing work!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks Pekka!

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

This is the BEST!

[@LarsDahlin]

Oh! This is genius! 🤩😍

[@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs]

Wow! You did it mate,

[@RaglansElectricBaboon]

This is the best trilogy out there, who needs the original Star Wars? Thanks again Dala. Your statement "Some people have Apple products...so this is not optimal" is generically accurate ;)

[@Pusse1978]

Absolutely awesome! Is the "universal canbridge" open for orders yet? I might just get one and prep my Leaf for a future swap :-)

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yes! Available here dalasevrepair.fi/can-bridges/

[@AntonioGottlieb]

dala 1, vcm 0 !

[@oleksii.zagorskyi]

holly molly. you cracked it!

[@clpdj]

That is GREAT 👌👍

[@W4rH4wkXX]

BRAVO!!!!!!!

[@JamieLovick]

Well done! I applaud you!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks Jamie!

[@JamieLovick]

@@DalasEVRepair I will admit it's the first time I've laughed and clapped about a video about electronics.

[@pierrickmiston3702]

Awesome !

[@GlynHudson]

Wow that’s a fantastic improvement. I’m guessing my bridge does not use this new method since I supplied your with the old battery id?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Already on your bridge!

[@wlhgmk]

The main problem with Nissan is that they don't have the back of their customer. They try to force the customer to buy a new Leaf rather than changing the battery. I would buy a new Leaf instead of my second hand one if Nissan had my back and provided the latest battery when I want to upgrade and provided it easily and at a reasonable profit.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Same issue with smartphones. Buy a new one once the battery goes bad, OEMs don't want people repairing their old stuff. This is why right to repair is so important

[@gtir300hp]

Hi Dala. I have used the leaf spy for pairing zeo to zeo few times. Azeo to Azeo 24s, Azeo 30 to azeo 30, ze1 40 to ze1 40. I have not done different size battery. Like 40kw to a azeo 30 or 24kw. This is what need the cam bridge for, is that correct? I have found when pairing in leaf spy. It does this so fast, that if you blink you will miss the fault light go out on the dash. This is an amazing tool. Thank you Dala 😊.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Hi, check out the wiki for more info on when a CAN bridge is needed! github.com/dalathegreat/Nissan-LEAF-Battery-Upgrade/wiki

[@lauritzeninc]

Hi Dala, cute, but if the VCM firmware is updated with a timeout function you are back to a dead car. How about you add a "Learn" button to you can bridge? Connect the bridge to the old battery, push Learn, move it to the new battery, and it will play back whatever it learned. Cheers - Mogens

[@jjsantala]

Brilliant.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks Jarkko 😁

[@bigwhimsy2236]

Great solution! Do you know enough about the BMW i3 to know if this technique might apply to I3 battery swaps?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Completely different set of issues there. Most related to locked batteries after collisions.

[@willgeorge5644]

So how does it handle different capacity batteries?

[@Whereswally606]

Genius. I wonder whether muxsan will adopt this approach. Does this result in more messages being sent causing more traffic on the bus? Just wondering.

[@DalasEVRepair]

There is one issue related to env200 and newer Gen3 vehicles with this approach (more on that later), so Muxsan is not going to use this solution.

[@willgeorge5644]

" and if you have the light interior (ZE0) with electric handbrake, or the dark interior (AZE0) with foot-operated handbrake.", but i have a light interior AZEO with foot operated brake.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Roughly one in 500 AZE0 leafs have light interior. No worries, same as other AZE0!

[@saeedmardani3900]

after some years the Chademo chargers will disappear. I hope one clever person like @dala can bring CCS to our Leafs. ;) Somehow to install it on car, not an adopter.

[@adamwithers]

I wouldn't HATE using an adapter. If that's what it took. But it wouldn't be ideal :(

[@saeedmardani3900]

@@adamwithers Eventhough they say that it is very challenging, but, it should be possible. Tesla made converters from their Chademo style charger to Chademo and CCS. So, the same thing can happen in here. Hopefully Nissan or a third party company make this possible at some point.

[@adamwithers]

@@saeedmardani3900 Like I say everytime a cable / plug / standard /media format changes "Hopefully this is the LAST time"

[@mwalsh5757]

Question that I think I know the answer to, but would like confirmation - could you fit the can-bridge with your current and properly recognized battery pack so that one could (hypothetically of course) drive to the junkyard, swap your pack out in their parking lot, and drive home on the new pack?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yes that works 😁

[@robo19681963]

Is it possible to use Leafspy Pro Beta to clear the fault codes on a 30-40kwh upgrade with can bridge? I think I tried a while back but the fault codes came back!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Some fault codes are still unclearable, see this known issue github.com/dalathegreat/BatteryUpgrade-UserManual/issues/5

[@robo19681963]

@@DalasEVRepair ah OK. Thanks for the info!

[@party-zn519]

ok, how to make 12 bar azeo?

[@gelisob]

exploiter reported to game masters! GJ :) PS. could you figure out how to dupe batteries next pls? PPS. what is the likelyhood in your mind, that future nissan leaf revisions will have this fixed?

[@DalasEVRepair]

They wont fix this for the Leaf, but for the upcoming Ariya we might see a different protection system...

[@gelisob]

oh well, the Ariya has proper battery afaik, with cooling, so it probably doesnt matter much there. Those last pretty much forever anyway..

[@subybaru3996]

Does this work on battery upgrade on a env200? Thanks

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yeah the BatteryUpgrade firmware runs on env200 also!

[@user-cg2my5yg4e]

Hi, Daniel, I am an leaf user in China, current we could not swap the 39Kwh battery which assembled in Sylphy EV to our leaf(AZE0 24Kwh). Shall we have the solution to hack it?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Send me a message via www.dalasevrepair.fi with your details, I can sell you a CAN bridge!

[@notsonominal]

LOL, I know this is old, but I guess Karma works...

[@roc00851]

Hello may I ask Which can-bridge you use?

[@DalasEVRepair]

I produce my own based on the Muxsan 3-port design!

[@roc00851]

@@DalasEVRepair do you selling it?

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@roc00851 with software for batteryupgrades yes! See www.dalasevrepair.fi/can-bridges

[@roc00851]

@@DalasEVRepair wow that great,I living in Taiwan,do you know how to get a battery pack?

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@roc00851 Sorry nope!

[@domtdoodar99]

So this works on a 40kwh to 40kwh swap correct ?

[@DalasEVRepair]

See this thread for more info www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=32819

[@clawham]

Hello! Do you can help me to build canbridge or explain how can i do this for next trick! I`m need zero recuperation when В mode activated and acceleration pedal is freed! but in И mode or when i touch brake pedal - i want have full regeneration power!

[@DalasEVRepair]

This is a big project, since brake pedal info is not available on EV-CAN. So you need to be hooked up to both EV and CAR-CAN. Also it is not possible to quickly turn on/off regen, there is ramping in the VCM. See this link for info how the different generations behave with my GlideInDrive feature: github.com/dalathegreat/LeafEnhancer-UserManual#glide-in-drive-%EF%B8%8F

[@clawham]

@@DalasEVRepair yes. your feature is almost that i need. Yes шёь understand that no momentary en/dis regen power. So can you told what descriptor and what bits consists D-N crossing?

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@clawham In message 0x1DC frame.data[1] = (frame.data[1] & 0xC0);//Zero out regen in D frame.data[2] = (frame.data[2] & 0x0F);

[@clawham]

@@DalasEVRepair Thanks. but im know how to set regen to zero. i cant hear message that contains current mode (NDBR) for reacting for it

[@DalasEVRepair]

In message 0x11A , documented in my database file github.com/dalathegreat/leaf_can_bus_messages

[@maultrommel]

why not reverse engineer the actual rolling code ?

[@gacherumburu9958]

😂😁 👏👏👍

[@BenMitro]

I'm going to hack my ICE vehicle...bet this works on many, many vehicles /.

[@rkan2]

Can the firmware be writing something somewhere rendering some NAND bad after a while?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Good question, no way to test unfortunately.

[@rkan2]

@@DalasEVRepair Wouldn't be surprised if it is logging somewhere endlessly like the Teslas before ~2017. Let's hope Japanese coding is a bit better than silicon valley. At least there is less hardware..

[@jannekarppanen9346]

Now Nissan knows this method so they will do something against it on future sw updates :-(

[@DalasEVRepair]

No OTA, no problem 😎

[@jannekarppanen9346]

@@DalasEVRepair But if it is serviced at dealer by accident, they may put new sw in...

[@DalasEVRepair]

Doubt they will put in effort to stop maybe a few 100 vehicles with this mod 😅

[@bryonbooth656]

Trust me, they are watching these threads, Been here "Japan" over 30 years, used to work for Clasonic and Denso & others over the years, trust me they know what is going on so will only but increase their IP protection in the future.....Take my hat off to Dala and people like him to give deserving customers the knowledge they deserve with the vehicle they purchase with their hard earned money. Keep it up Dala.

[@mjk8019]

lol

[@celeron55]

Lol, nice hack

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks, found it accidentally while messing around 😅

[@jr-pl9kj]

its too bad this cant be done through leafspy without any can bridge, delete these useless battery codes once and for all.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yes it can, was added a few months ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4S2m5eblNR0ipI