Nissan's Biggest Mistake

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@thecoreelementsmoto
@thecoreelementsmoto 7 ай бұрын
Felt like nissan was like, "see we can still design things you want......be we just dont wanna"
@RomanJockMCO
@RomanJockMCO 7 ай бұрын
The Americans have been doing that for decades
@Fyxxterzc
@Fyxxterzc 7 ай бұрын
​@RomanJockMCO for sure, remember that dodge demon concept car? Or that dodge slingshot concept?
@RomanJockMCO
@RomanJockMCO 7 ай бұрын
@@Fyxxterzc I'm old enough to remember the Buick Questor and Wildcat and the Corvette Indy from the 80s. The 1986 Nissan CUE-X did become the original Q45, however.
@bobeeman9730
@bobeeman9730 7 ай бұрын
​@RomanJockMCO Japan is crazy with it though, this new Datsun 510, the new rx7, new mr2, a BMW supra, the pedestrian STI, see what they did to the Integra. Now for the US, dropping Pontiac but keeping Buick around seemed wild to me. Marketing wise Buick was out of the newer generations minds. Pontiac had the gto, firebird, and grand prix . Most under 40 don't know Buick.
@speedglass4841
@speedglass4841 7 ай бұрын
have you seen an Infiniti SUV lately?! looks like a giant clown shoe
@Torresmeza9
@Torresmeza9 7 ай бұрын
The IDx is often referred to as “The greatest Nissan that never was.”
@alexscott9195
@alexscott9195 7 ай бұрын
I was so disappointed by this I sold my Z and S14, and bought a FRS. I now I have a fleet of Toyotas and have never looked back. They showed us what we wanted it, then murdered it in front of us. Biggest FU to the fans ever.
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 6 ай бұрын
I used to think they made a mistake but I have noticed in the last 10 years or so that young people in my neck of the woods just don’t seem to care about cars anymore. I never see FRS/86/BRZs on the road only CUV/SUVs and 4 door economy cars. As nice as that little coupe was it would never have sold enough to earn its keep.
@Torresmeza9
@Torresmeza9 6 ай бұрын
@@alexscott9195 i cant tell you how many times I’ve heard an FRS owner say they were looking to buy the IDx first.
@rocksteadyska6933
@rocksteadyska6933 6 ай бұрын
​@@josebrown5961 outside of the US it would have sold like hot cakes.
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 6 ай бұрын
@@Torresmeza9Well when it was made I hated it. I was young and stupid then, I just loved the Z. A boxey little rear drive coupe didn’t attract me then. Like I said, I was stupid because now I would love one.
@LuluGPGT
@LuluGPGT 7 ай бұрын
The fact that it still looks like it could come out today without looking outdated just amazes me. This doesn't feel like a concept design, more like a timeless one.
@SmallAndSoft
@SmallAndSoft 7 ай бұрын
😂
@edu7979
@edu7979 6 ай бұрын
yeah its as ugly as everything else jeez
@eagleeye7792
@eagleeye7792 7 ай бұрын
The Idx was the positive path forward for Nissan, but they went in a negative direction.
@eagleeye7792
@eagleeye7792 7 ай бұрын
Imagine if Nissan made the Idx and then spun off a sedan, wagon. suv, and maybe even a truck from the same platform.
@cartopia6161
@cartopia6161 7 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts.
@toddthezondalover645
@toddthezondalover645 6 ай бұрын
OG Datsun vibes
@CrackerSmith
@CrackerSmith 6 ай бұрын
OMG I would've spent 6 figures to get the entire collection!!!
@Torresmeza9
@Torresmeza9 Ай бұрын
I’ve been told by the lead designer of the IDx that there was “preliminary data for a 4 door sedan and wagon, as well as convertible and a pickup.”
@damienlee1165
@damienlee1165 7 ай бұрын
Such a crime that Nissan chose to keep reheating the GTR for another 10 years instead of taking the risk and bringing this concept to production.
@GordonBeckles
@GordonBeckles 7 ай бұрын
FACTS👊🏾
@Torresmeza9
@Torresmeza9 7 ай бұрын
Gtr is such a low production car and the 370z was a walking zombie in terms of production numbers. Bs excuse from that “Nissan employee” saying they had no where to build the car
@tturi2
@tturi2 7 ай бұрын
they don't have the money tbh
@Electronica27
@Electronica27 7 ай бұрын
Tbh it wouldn't sell. That be the unfortunate truth. People want practical not art pieces out of mazda. They go to a different brand for art pieces.
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 6 ай бұрын
@@Electronica27FACTS💯 I hate to agree but “car guys” are not being made anymore. I don’t have kids but I do have a niece and 2 godchildren, none of them like sporty cars. My godson didn’t get his license till he was two weeks from going off to college! When he turned 16 I offered to give him a 2010 Honda Accord Coupe and he said no thanks. I just gave up.
@errrky
@errrky 7 ай бұрын
I remember when these came out, so much buzz, had some friends swearing they would buy them. Unfortunately, for all the reasons discussed, Nissan dropped the ball here, completely lost opportunity.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 7 ай бұрын
I was gonna go into debt to buy one! Thankfully they did not release it, else I would have.
@thousandlemons8766
@thousandlemons8766 7 ай бұрын
Goddamit…they knew we wanted sporty simple and authentic, even had all the feedback compiled and summarized, and yet “here’s the Juke, complete opposite of what you asked for, hope you like it!” I was less upset not knowing why they canned it but dammit they made a choice here
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 7 ай бұрын
One word.... Renault
@bgbuilds2712
@bgbuilds2712 7 ай бұрын
That's what I can't wrap my head around. NOBODY LIKES THE FRICKIN JUKE! It's a soulless, shapeless, androgynous lump of automotive nihilism and spiritual relativism. It's design by committee. It's a hateful car built for no one in particular. They could have reached for greatness. It wouldn't have been that hard to do!
@nicholasagnew2792
@nicholasagnew2792 7 ай бұрын
Make a lightweight RWD inexpensive car that handles really good, and give it a MANUAL TRANSMISSION.
@MineGames131
@MineGames131 6 ай бұрын
Nah, here's a "sporty" CVT. I think those two words should be mutually exclusive.
@illsuspect
@illsuspect 7 ай бұрын
Very rarely does a concept appeal to both young and old. This would have been an instant classic, something you can really put your own style into.
@JustKco
@JustKco 7 ай бұрын
No shot they thought the juke was a competitor to the 86/brz
@eroticgrimreaper1086
@eroticgrimreaper1086 7 ай бұрын
I hate to say this but yes Nissan genuinely thought so
@mrs_radrod
@mrs_radrod 6 ай бұрын
@@eroticgrimreaper1086it got recaros! What more do you want??? -Nissan
@julianmorgan79
@julianmorgan79 6 ай бұрын
I still can't tell if the Juke is ugly or awkward.
@jor6933
@jor6933 4 ай бұрын
@@julianmorgan79a bit of both, it is really fun to drive though.
@deathstrike
@deathstrike 7 ай бұрын
The sad thing is, when you referenced AMC (American Motors Corporation), they actually were one of the more innovative car companies in the "analog" car era. Cars like the AMC AMX/3, the creepy looking Gremlin, the surprisingly successful AMC Pacer, and arguably the very first Sport/Crossover Vehicle, the 4WD AMC Eagle SX/4. All of these vehicles like the Nissan IDx were "out of the box" thinking. All have a niche audience, but an audience nonetheless. The IDx Nismo has a BMW E9 3.0 CSL (Batmobile) vibe without the massive investment to either purchase one, or build your own from a BMW M3. A race/rally inspired look with high performance, good gas mileage, and a decent entry price would have made this car a legend. Nissan is notorious for making cars well ahead of their time and not deciding to build them. One more in the list, I suggest you Google the Nissan MID4 Concept that was destined to be become an NSX killer. They dropped the ball on that too.
@afoolandhismoneychannel
@afoolandhismoneychannel 7 ай бұрын
They could build this today and it would be a success. Timeless.
@MikeLaRock88
@MikeLaRock88 7 ай бұрын
This and Hyundai Vision 74 are two cars that should've been made
@primeral
@primeral 7 ай бұрын
And then they criminally implicate the CEO solely responsible for saving the company. Keep it classy, Nissan
@everrybody
@everrybody 6 ай бұрын
Not only that but their stock has only fallen and they are worth less the half what they used to be under Carlos
@minovskyparticles1834
@minovskyparticles1834 7 ай бұрын
it was even presented on Jay Leno's YT channel and i thought they're really going to release it.
@ozstriker4075
@ozstriker4075 7 ай бұрын
The IDX should have developed as a small sportscar AND a small sedan/saloon car with a range of engines. That was the only way to get it approved by the accountants at Nissan. This would have made it appeal to a wider market. Think of a modern day baby bmw m2/m3 that's more affordable for the enthusiasts and 1.6, 1.8 hybrid, EV variants for the rest of the public. And with the HUGE size and weight of modern EVs that car manufacturers are obsessed with selling to us and are in no way going to help with the environment, Nissan would have had the market of small/medium efficient city cars cornered, whether you wanted it with ICE, Hybrid or EV
@conchobar
@conchobar 7 ай бұрын
Subaru is notorious for boring production models based on inspiring and crowd pleasing concepts. Nissan just learned from them.
@dubdaze68
@dubdaze68 7 ай бұрын
I saw them at the NAIAS, and I WANTED it. Especially the NISMO. The show car had an SR20 in it.
@melvinbrumski1446
@melvinbrumski1446 7 ай бұрын
Dealer markup would make that cost as much as the gtr anyway
@SpiKSpaN-ei6zq
@SpiKSpaN-ei6zq 7 ай бұрын
True 😂
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 7 ай бұрын
Nissan is dead to me since they did not make it....but I do daily drive a 1998 Nissan Sentra 5 speed manual....the only way they will get back my support is if they build it.
@papamidnight74
@papamidnight74 7 ай бұрын
Man still feel like they could drop it anytime soon
@JohnnysBox
@JohnnysBox Ай бұрын
The design holds up
@lowridervwmk1
@lowridervwmk1 7 ай бұрын
They still look modern today. They would sell like cheeseburgers. Far better design than the GTR Hyper force.
@kadenmarshall9524
@kadenmarshall9524 7 ай бұрын
my god that would've been so cool
@mw6563
@mw6563 7 ай бұрын
It’s about the “Lost Decades” of Japan. The country has never recovered from their financial collapse in the 90’s. Since cool toys usually have weak business cases, Japan mostly makes concepts.
@Stuntman175
@Stuntman175 7 ай бұрын
They could have joined forces with Mazda and used the MX5 platform for it or just went all EV on it instead, using Leaf components to save money.
@Murgledoo
@Murgledoo 7 ай бұрын
I’m still disappointed that this car never made it into production.
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 7 ай бұрын
This could be the modern classic... but never will.
@thesvenssons
@thesvenssons 7 ай бұрын
WTF? Has there ever been a RWD CVT application? Nissan must kick themselves looking at the popularity of the toyobaru twins
@jfv2312
@jfv2312 7 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the hybrid versions of the Toyota Camry, Lexus IS and GS are RWD and have a CVT. But that's pretty much it I'd say, no more straightforward examples I can think of
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker 6 ай бұрын
I'd go with a dct over a CVT 😂😂
@julianbryantjb
@julianbryantjb 7 ай бұрын
The problem is retooling, logistics, and inventory! Yes they can make this car, but it requires retooling which is a huge change! You need to get rid of the sentra, but it shares so much parts commonality with the Altima with engines, transmission, chasiis, and many other components and that may drive up costs for the company. You will see how this is reflected in other manufacturers as well! If Nissan builds this it may even creep into the consumer base of the Z in pricing, style, and preference of everyday use! Look at what happened at Toyota with the free bra or the supra, that took the assistance of an additional manufacturers like Subaru and BMW! It also made the pricing high as well this is very problematic to keeping costs down!
@ConfirmedPatriot
@ConfirmedPatriot 7 ай бұрын
The Forza Horizon 2 game on X-Box had the Nissan IDx NISMO concept as one you could drive and I believe modify. It was awesome to drive and the engine sounded incredible. A lost opportunity not to green light it.
@sovsouth
@sovsouth 7 ай бұрын
instead of building this they built nothing, and are in an isuzu/mitsubishi type death spiral as a brand, good job nissan.
@garnetreds1018
@garnetreds1018 7 ай бұрын
This guy said Nissan didn’t dive into the retro wave like the figaro didn’t even exist. They started it 😤😤😤😤
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 7 ай бұрын
That was Japan-only. But again, incels like you don't even remember African and South American car markets, and wonder why Toyota refuses to go full electric.
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 7 ай бұрын
Also, you missed the part where the narrator tells 21st century. 1989 was in the 20th century.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 7 ай бұрын
Japanese automakers since the 80s have released classic styled cars and trims only for the Japanese market, so that does not count.
@bhajans1973
@bhajans1973 7 ай бұрын
That 510 design was awesome
@whatevername6553
@whatevername6553 7 ай бұрын
bruhhhh you got my hopes up in that thumbnail, i'll forever be pissed that the idx was canned, but for some reason we need 4 nissan sedans.
@AW_DIY_garage
@AW_DIY_garage 6 ай бұрын
I was telling my son about this car today, one of my most frustrating memories as a Datsun guy. I have a 510 and a 280z. I have no faith they will create it. Also, I know it may be blasphemy, but, as a FWD car the iDX would have been fun, like an original Sentra SE-R.
@tommyg2660
@tommyg2660 7 ай бұрын
I don’t need one but I damn sure would have bought one. They fumbled big time on this.
@pottasium7117
@pottasium7117 7 ай бұрын
Nissan casually drops one of the best looking cars in the decade and proceeds to go "nah, not selling"
@basedlibertyprime
@basedlibertyprime 7 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why no one is making a small affordable sports car that has a base spec that doesn’t have all of the unnecessary electronic crap on it. Give me a basic car that I can drive the hell out of.
@catcaruso
@catcaruso 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely true!
@sportbikejesus6297
@sportbikejesus6297 6 ай бұрын
all that unnecessary electronic crap is govt mandated safety and economy equipment. Don't blame the govt tho. Blame the insurance lobbies ... who own the govt ... okay, blame them both. The ins cos pay out a claim and it hurts so they spread the fear in the media "this death could be you or your child, if you turn everything over to us nobody will ever die again" When they're done, they've added so many features to the car that you can't make a cheap one anymore. You have amortize the cost with a big profit margin which requires upscale cars. Now some Civics cost $50k. It's a joke.
@sailordave1000
@sailordave1000 7 ай бұрын
I thought it could have been the return of the Silvia/240SX
@zzysk2
@zzysk2 7 ай бұрын
IDX, Code 130R, and S-FR, which I had high expectations for, were never released. I bought a 68 bug.
@catcaruso
@catcaruso 7 ай бұрын
Well done. Almost limitless on what you can do with a beetle. Friend of mine dropped a built type 4 in his beetle. 280 at the wheels.... Insane!
@dez7726
@dez7726 7 ай бұрын
they could of put somethin like the iDX or Silvia on the Juke platform. The Juke did have an AWD version. They could of save money by keeping it NA but leave room for the aftermarket to place performance parts. 510s and Silvia were economy cars the people just loved to mod the hell out of.
@crazylousy
@crazylousy 7 ай бұрын
Nissan designer knew Gen Z don't like common car design... and now take a look at your local current Nissan product range. CHANGE is not a strong point for Nissan even in 2023.
@GordonBeckles
@GordonBeckles 7 ай бұрын
Too bad they didn't take the chance on this. It's definitely better than that goggle eyed mini crossover they tried selling us years ago (So uninspiring I can't remember snything about the Puke... other than the overdone face and desperate for attention awkward proportions) Yeah, the ID-X was the better idea, and customization (like the Pulsar NX) would have worked. Sigh...
@skytheguy0438
@skytheguy0438 7 ай бұрын
Had they made them only with a CVT I don't think the people they were trying to advertise would've bought them. What's the point of making a RWD sports coupe if you're only going to put an automatic a cvt at that.
@OvisMilitaris
@OvisMilitaris 4 ай бұрын
The later part of this documentary reminds me of an important lesson I learned when dealing with Japanese business culture. Japanese executive don't like saying, "no," to a proposal among other executives. It's considered rather rude. So they give various excuses about delays or possible complications when they actually mean, "no." If your proposal isn't given a definitive, "yes," it's not gonna happen. When the IDX stopped getting, "yes," as the definitive answer for production, it was already dead. Folks just forget how the Japanese corporate world tends to answer questions...
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 7 ай бұрын
Barchetta is definitely a thinking car person’s YT channel!👍👍👍
@wcapeling
@wcapeling 7 ай бұрын
They could actually drop this car as an EV today, It would definitely beat out most EVs on the market.
@viktorianas
@viktorianas 7 ай бұрын
So... They looked at Nissan Juke... And... Decided it's worth production line... Just mesmerising!
@carsinruin6102
@carsinruin6102 7 ай бұрын
Forgot the Juke 😂.
@jxpd7898
@jxpd7898 7 ай бұрын
Nissan hasn't had my heart since they were bought out by Renault, not a single spark of hope or soul
@HighExplosiveSerenade
@HighExplosiveSerenade 6 ай бұрын
Its incredible that Nissan would approve the design of the 'Juke', and not these two beauties... They definitelly have some thinking to do....
@goblinphreak2132
@goblinphreak2132 6 ай бұрын
I remember something about the IDX being super cheap, and then they said the price was gonna be high and not worth making. A cheap RWD 2 door was gonna be insane for us normies. And then cancelled. The nismo was the best looking one.... I would love if these brands stopped the futuristic bubble car bullshit and made more classic/square looking cars. The whole "aerodynamics to improve fuel economy" is a lie. its a lie. period. it doesn't change shit. aero is really only for high speed driving and to give you downforce for grip, as the reverse would mean pulling the car up at high speed lowering grip and causing crashes. as long as you aren't trying to make the aero plane-esk you are fine. a square looking classic that is cheap, front engine and rear wheel drive, manual trans for us normal car enthusiasts while offering the auto for the basic bitch market, and a fair price, would dominate. but all the brands keep pushing EV, SUV/TRUCK, and expensive trash that no one wants or can afford.
@catcaruso
@catcaruso 7 ай бұрын
CVT with that livery..... Blasphemy!
@jesseyoung4295
@jesseyoung4295 7 ай бұрын
It's funny how car companies don't build for car enthusiasts, the voices that could and would champion the brand. Too bad they'd prefer to be mediocre volume brands.
@dickystrike6966
@dickystrike6966 7 ай бұрын
Nissan jumped into to many projects at the same time. In 2013 they already got ultimate british disigned Quashqai, Leaf the only available EV on the market and Infinity luxury line.
@namesbinge3073
@namesbinge3073 7 ай бұрын
Nissan has some of the worst product line up in the UK. Literally zero fun factor.
@Chuckfinlee432
@Chuckfinlee432 7 ай бұрын
Saw it in person in Woodland Hills made me sad when it wasn't a thing.
@lordbongonaba
@lordbongonaba 7 ай бұрын
I wished it was real. I think they had the wrong idea looking at the brz and 86. Those are fairly impractical and the boxer engine was a non starter for some buyers. If they looked at the bmw 2 series (coupe) , then 1 series. It would have made more sense. Make it a low powered 2 door sedan and replace the versa which can compete with the sentra. Build a global car that is mundane but looks decent and can be modified to match or beat the brz. Like 2 versions, 1 e-power for automatic drivers and a 1.6 or 1.8 i4 na manual only with like 150hp. U can sell that worldwide, insurance companies wont screw their customers and u sell performance add ons or let the aftermarket take care of the rest.
@lordbongonaba
@lordbongonaba 7 ай бұрын
They should rethink it. Maybe a coupe and a wagon. Maybe a mitsubishi version since their only new car is a rebadged renault clio or something. Perhaps the chassis can be developed for a future Silvia, so they have a mass market and a niche sport coupe on the 1 chassis
@REPOMAN24722
@REPOMAN24722 7 ай бұрын
CVT, no manual. yuck. just lost their target audience.
@jeffsloane8628
@jeffsloane8628 7 ай бұрын
As an owner of two 510s and a few Civic Sis, Nissan really missed the mark with me for building the Juke over the IDX. It may have sold more cars, but did less than nothing for their reputation.
@kaptainkyle70
@kaptainkyle70 6 ай бұрын
I grew up rowing my own gears in used, small RWD sport coupes from Germany and Japan I too was extremely excited at the prospect of the IDx. On top of those I've owned a Z32 and my wife currently drives a last gen Xterra Pro-4X (also manual). I've given up on Nissan's ability to turn out a reasonably affordable, fun, RWD coupe. Shame. They want to talk about building "volume" cars but that's what the 510 was back in the day. Nobody is enthralled in your crappy FWD, CVT lineup. I'd rather buy a BRZ than any comparably priced Nissan.
@iadorasjourney
@iadorasjourney 5 ай бұрын
The resemblance of the FIAT 131 Abarth is impressive though... IMHO they for sure took inspiration from that awesome car.
@nighttrain1565
@nighttrain1565 7 ай бұрын
They should bring this back to make up for how badly they dropped the ball with the front of the new Z.. so ugly!
@clockwork3494
@clockwork3494 6 ай бұрын
It's insane to me how almost every car company now (because this isn't just a Nissan thing) will make these incredible, jaw dropping prototypes as if to go "Oh yeah, we still got it." with huge fanfare from consumers past and present, only to go "what's that? You want us to produce this car rather than the mostly ugly designs we're going with? Uuuh.. guess you just want more big SUV's and 4x4s then?" The only car in recent time that I genuinely can't complain about is the 400Z, because that is a gorgeous car that is also reminiscent of the older models from the 60's and 70's, as it honestly should be.
@evoman44
@evoman44 6 ай бұрын
The IDX was the first Nissan that I had actually seriously considered since the 2004 Sentra SE-R Spec V. No other Nissan product has interested me since. I am sure there have been many other car enthusiast that took their money else. Not everyone one is interested in a BRZ /FRS or Miata.
@RomanJockMCO
@RomanJockMCO 7 ай бұрын
I kinda feel like the IDX could have made a really cool 21st century SE-R. As you said, RWD wasn't necessary.
@Fyxxterzc
@Fyxxterzc 7 ай бұрын
It most definitely was necessary. This was the datsun 510 successor. It wouldn't have sold because it would have competed with miatas. Anyone buying a weekend toy wouldn't choose a 510 over a convertible. As much as the idx would be the perfect toyota 86 competitor.
@Torresmeza9
@Torresmeza9 7 ай бұрын
What a mockery it would’ve been if it was fwd
@RomanJockMCO
@RomanJockMCO 7 ай бұрын
@@Fyxxterzc Please tell me who you know that cross shopped a Miata with an SE-R! I'm a rwd fan as well but also understand business cases. One could have been made for an SE-R revival, not for a rwd niche vehicle of which there is only so many customers. Furthermore as I recall many articles of the SE-R called it the spiritual successor to the BMW 2002, quite high praise especially for a front-driver.
@RomanJockMCO
@RomanJockMCO 7 ай бұрын
@@Torresmeza9 To some, yes. Others would have been happy that it was produced at all. Did you decry Nissan when they switched to fwd in the 80s calling those cars mockeries?
@Fyxxterzc
@Fyxxterzc 7 ай бұрын
@RomanJockMCO you are missing the point of this car if you think it was an ser successor. It wouldn't have sold at all as a fwd. This coming from someone who's weekend fun car is a honda civic. It was a 510 in shape and design and anyone who saw it expected and knew that.
@zpe1200
@zpe1200 7 ай бұрын
if it was similar price to the 86/brz with nice balance and open engine for upgrades it would have sold boat loads.
@markbeach8996
@markbeach8996 6 ай бұрын
That nizmo tho looking like a car from “flat out “ I dig it
@theoracleprodigy
@theoracleprodigy 7 ай бұрын
Wish one of the companies would put out something like this. That is a very cute car.
@MeanJynx
@MeanJynx 6 ай бұрын
This is why Honda and Toyota are in front of them. I know the market plays a significant role but these 2 take risks and they are not immune to failure as well. Kudos to Honda for the Acura Type S and Civic Type R.
@Sven989
@Sven989 7 ай бұрын
Nissan and Mitsubishi became such boring car companies.
@sunahamanagai9039
@sunahamanagai9039 5 ай бұрын
Probably the only vehicle where the dreaded V motion grille looked good on.
@jakobholgersson4400
@jakobholgersson4400 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand the sentiment that there's no case for small, affordable sports cars. They'd sell like hot cakes if they existed.
@MilLFeuilles
@MilLFeuilles 7 ай бұрын
Europe countries as well as Asian countries are full of those cars, it's the American market that dont want small cars.
@jakobholgersson4400
@jakobholgersson4400 7 ай бұрын
@@MilLFeuilles I live in the EU. There are no affordable sports cars to be found. The GR86 was a limited run car here, and was priced accordingly.
@Ni1996Ki
@Ni1996Ki 4 ай бұрын
Completly different but kind of similar: HWA (one of the founders of AMG's company) produces a new Mercedes 190E as a HWA EVO
@mgscheue
@mgscheue 7 ай бұрын
I saw those at the Detroit show and I thought they were fantastic. Was so hoping they would make them.
@klinkske
@klinkske 6 ай бұрын
If a car manufacturer ever wants to make me buy a new car, they better start taking risks since there is NOTHING on the market i want. Nothing. And i m a old skool petrol head.
@rdeh1678
@rdeh1678 7 ай бұрын
I wanted that 510 retro so bad
@jaymum23
@jaymum23 6 ай бұрын
Nissan was the king of vaporware in the 2010s. They haven’t even developed a new chassis in 25 years.
@casualsuede
@casualsuede 7 ай бұрын
Will these cars have sold? Probably not. There is a lot of KZbin keyboard warriors and creators I see that say "if only they built this, it would sell like hotcakes", not based any market research. This is for all products, but especially cars. I remember when the prototype of the Kia Stinger came out, everyone was going to say how it was going to a sales monster, yet it didn't sell at all.
@TimTheInspector
@TimTheInspector 7 ай бұрын
I agree. The enthusiasts who demand this sort of thing typically buy used cars. If it had come to fruition they’d have likely found some excuse not to buy one brand new (see the Subaru/Toyota coupes). Without a market of first owners how can a car succeed?
@mykeljewell
@mykeljewell 7 ай бұрын
Loved this concept when first unveiled. I could see something like this in the EV space. Packaging for better interior space and a few updates and it’d be an interesting addition to the EV market
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 7 ай бұрын
Nissan…flashes of brilliance, followed by dross. It’s those special times that keep it my favourite brand. ❤
@infinitexsound6087
@infinitexsound6087 6 ай бұрын
they dropped the ball on this one........ pisses me off
@CrackerSmith
@CrackerSmith 6 ай бұрын
I was so ready to flop $50k+ to enjoy a 510 like experience again. Nissan missed the mark completely.
@angeeell301
@angeeell301 6 ай бұрын
this the automotive equivalent of your fav artist making the best song ever and just deciding not to release it
@brianj1591
@brianj1591 7 ай бұрын
What a shame they never made it. I wanted one so bad! Perfect fit for me and my needs, great style, and could have been relatively affordable. Nissan if you’re listening, I’m still open!
@CrazyCat229
@CrazyCat229 7 ай бұрын
Nissan is ded... The 400z is the worst and at the price they want for the Nizmo you can buy much faster sports cars.
@naikothestewmaker
@naikothestewmaker 7 ай бұрын
They need to understand that the stealerships make it impossible to buy cars with inflated bs prices to there vehicles.
@mndlessdrwer
@mndlessdrwer 6 ай бұрын
I just wish they had a way to make the body of the car less thick. That's the main thing that hurts the design. If they made it about three inches shallower and took all that height out of the grey sections in the front and rear and between the belt and body lines within the cabin section, then I think it would be far more successful. Sure, it'd make the cabin a bit tall, but that is acceptable. As it is, the proportions already look like a chop-top hotrod, and having a slightly larger canopy section would make the body of the car seem even smaller by comparison while also improving overall visibility. Currently it looks like a downsized tiny crossover vehicle instead of a coupe. Look at the old Z32 300ZX and how shallow the body is, how little space there is above the wheel opening to the top of the fender. I know Nissan could do this, though it might necessitate designing the engine's oiling such that they could tip the inline 4-cylinder onto its side by about 30-45 degrees for clearance. Also, personal preference here, I would actually prefer if they just adapted the Leaf drivetrain for RWD implementation instead of sticking a somewhat anemic 4-cylinder into the car. It's already not going to be a massive production run compared to crossovers, SUVs, and sedans since the 2+2 design has long since left mainstream viability in most markets. I think the leaf drivetrain would provide plenty of power for most people, particularly for the base model, and they could create an uprated electric motor for the NISMO model if they wished to. If they wanted, they could even engineer a front motor with a differential to provide AWD and create a miniature, budget friendly, slower GT-R alternative that references some of the design language of the original hachiroku Skyline. I have to admit that, despite the areas of improvement that I pointed out, these are some of the most compelling concept cars that I've seen from Nissan in more than a decade and they look quite production feasible. The design isn't immediately appealing like some, but like the Z32 300ZX, they grow on you over time until you unironically appreciate them for their quirks. I think, for the target market, such designs would sell reasonably well. Unfortunately, that target market isn't particularly large, so the platform would need to be readily adaptable to larger vehicles for the development to be worthwhile.
@carsinruin6102
@carsinruin6102 7 ай бұрын
With the exception of the Z and GTR I don’t think anybody intentionally buys a Nissan these days.
@hereforthechips7710
@hereforthechips7710 6 ай бұрын
Stop showing GHOSN. NISSAN made him a criminal. Also, NISSAN is doomed until they get rid of CVTs. I don’t care what you say, that is the reason No one buys them. Car companies should build car that last forever. People will buy them. The CVT has killed the brand’s reputation.
@chuckcribbs3398
@chuckcribbs3398 7 ай бұрын
I wanted this SO bad back when they teased it!! This is what Nissan needs to compete with the Civic Si. Manual, 2.4 liter NA or a 1.6 liter turbo from the Juke. Can’t believe they didn’t bring this to market!!! Funny story: my grandmother had an AMC Gremlin with the Levi’s jean seats! I remember it well.
@carsinruin6102
@carsinruin6102 7 ай бұрын
Why build this car when you can sell generic, uninspired small SUVs that nobody wants.
@Dmhlcmb
@Dmhlcmb 7 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the Freeflow.
@JonathanLittle001
@JonathanLittle001 6 ай бұрын
Mad they didnt sell it, untill they said CVT
@eroticgrimreaper1086
@eroticgrimreaper1086 7 ай бұрын
This has to be the greatest jebait of our time
@josephsanders8921
@josephsanders8921 6 ай бұрын
I bought my frs the first year it came out and I'm mainly a toyota fan, but if nissan would have produced the idx, I think I would have had a harder time choosing which to buy.
@dreambuilder4536
@dreambuilder4536 6 ай бұрын
this could hit so many demographics though. New enthusiasts learning to customize with some ease and affordability, folks learning about the process, economically disabled folks who can actually repair their own vehicles... If they were a bit more versatile, as in parts underneath as well as body panels, the demographics could be absolutely wild. And given that they could essentially just send a bunch of frames and parts, shipping these vehicles would be an even more cost reducing process. It's a win for nissan, win for consumers, just positive all around. thennn... nope, oh well too bad bye rocco
@btrdangerdan2010
@btrdangerdan2010 7 ай бұрын
Why does this remind me of the Nissan. Pulsar nx? With the interchange trunk backs
@joeyho5134
@joeyho5134 7 ай бұрын
Such a classic design, somehow timeless.
@AliasHSW
@AliasHSW 7 ай бұрын
Still looks great today. Timeless design imo - and would sell like hotcakes today
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