Ranking Every MH2 Commander | Which Modern Horizons 2 Legends are the Best?

[@dr.pultandmrgrimm991]

Are we going to ignore the fact that Beezy said Asmoran's full name without missing a beat?

[@asteiner274]

Did you see the short? He teaches you how to say, if you break it up into 4 parts and learn those it's not too hard! Still impressive tho

[@LegendLeaguer]

I just realized that Grist is so far the closest thing to the ooze planeswalker people have been asking for.

[@NitpickingNerds]

It is really cool 😎

[@weedAndTransRights]

Mimeoplasm is my go too tbh

[@TheHive616]

Did you mean Aeve?

[@LegendLeaguer]

@@TheHive616 Aeve is not a planeswalker

[@TheHive616]

@@LegendLeaguer whoops! I musta skipped right over planeswalker, I thought you had written 'ooze commander' My mistake!

[@mella4376]

General Ferrous: put a couch in the artwork and you got yourselves a meme

[@NitpickingNerds]

What???

[@mella4376]

@@NitpickingNerds something something NSFW

[@devonsenpai7907]

Now I can't unsee it

[@NitpickingNerds]

I have accepted the fact that I just don’t understand 😂

[@chall3ng33v3rything]

Hey you guys are getting much better with your bits and I think you guys are letting yourselves have a little more fun on camera and as audience members I think we respond well to that! You guys are awesome and I’m so glad I’ve gotten to see you guys shoot off in popularity!

[@NitpickingNerds]

Thank you so much 😊

[@maxwellharris1434]

“Aeve is super cool!” *rates it 2 for coolness*

[@NitpickingNerds]

He meant cool as in the card design not character😊😅

[@Vario69]

My thoughts exactly xD

[@zzconmanzz1]

Well with 8 more modular cards in mh2 that puts modular at 24 cards which you can make a deck out of. I definitely don't think robobee is as bad as you guys put it.

[@elipetrou9308]

I’d honestly rather have fun unique commanders than super pushed Chulane esc ones

[@NitpickingNerds]

Agreed!

[@spudster8887]

I'd rather have both personally

[@elipetrou9308]

@@spudster8887 fair enough, korvold is my favourite deck so I can’t complain

[@spudster8887]

@@elipetrou9308 yeah most of my decks are degenerate stuff, I play meren, orvar, breya, yarok, obeka, winota and atraxa so I do prefer strong stuff. Granted a good mix of both power and fun build arounds are what id prefer. Powerful cards don't feel special if that's all we get

[@tylercole3738]

This is why I play Averna, the Chaos Bloom. No matter how many people tell me it's a bad commander, I just get giddy throwing out cascade after cascade and hitting fun random combos.

[@mrconchapelua]

i did the math on yusri when u attack and flip 5 coins u have 3% chance of omnisience. same thing but with kark's thumb out its 23% chance of 5 heads. he is the gambling commander

[@barrelrollio]

Solid content. I think Carth should have maybe been higher in "Uniqueness," seeing as how the loyalty cost ability has never been printed before and changes the pace of planeswalkers' ultimates.

[@NitpickingNerds]

That is a fair point

[@djbisson9819]

One of my favorite series from you two. Thank you for continuing to keep up with it each and every set. You two rock!

[@NitpickingNerds]

Until the end of time!

[@mella4376]

Just you wait until my grafted exoskeleton Ripley Vance deck comes to get you all

[@NitpickingNerds]

I will laugh and die with pride lol 😂

[@fatesawakener8241]

I personally like Zabaz way more than most of the other legends in the set for the most part and I don't even care about the modular stuff. I love new ways of making artifact aristocrats and if it was Jeskai it would be better because Emry and other blue artifact related cards would be allowed in the deck.

[@grandogrando6505]

Also they made a whole lore paragraph for all these characters in an article, so you might want to up their coolness

[@braidsmeetsbalthor7517]

Just finished binging this playlist and am now caught up. What a ride! Love the channel and am now a loyal subscriber. Keep up the good work 🤙 Also, you did Balthor dirty 😉

[@NitpickingNerds]

Wow thanks for watching the whole thing; what an achievement!!! Where did some of your favorites end up?

[@braidsmeetsbalthor7517]

@@NitpickingNerds Balthor the Defiled and Mayael the Anima are my babies but ended up somewhere between 200-300th. I choose my commanders based on art/coolness so I can’t argue with your reasoning.

[@loganator326]

Absolutely love Garth, One Eye. So many options for what you can try and pull off being an absolute toolbox. Hopefully I'll be able to make a deck around him one of these days

[@jamesgratz4771]

Kind of 5 color good stuff tbh

[@ArchangelJaceAscended]

When you activate Asmora...'s ability, you have the say BAM! BTW, Beezy, I'm impressed that you can pronounce her name.

[@NitpickingNerds]

I wanted to nail it for the short we did, and ever since then I just have it memorized 😂

[@brendanpowell9953]

God I wish Grist was stronger. He’s so dang cool!! New favorite planes walker just on coolness alone

[@NitpickingNerds]

He is so freaking cool

[@guyinthecorner0]

Grist was my second favorite commander shown after Chatterfang. Squirrels for life, baybee

[@aaroncorsini6165]

Gridt is alright with stackung yozr deck with insects with cards like scrolo rack

[@Domenico44055]

I like how Aeve, progenitor ooze tokens come into play. The first one is like *bloop* small as a basketball, no +1/+1 counters on it. The second one *sblop* chair size Third *plafff* car size Fourth *bleeearh* small building size Fifth *uuarglglglgl* ooozeptimus prime size And then Aeve himself big as Goozeilla

[@NitpickingNerds]

Really liking the onomatopoeias

[@Pikapaunch12]

I built Grist, such a fun deck. Just chock full of bugs to make early board, trying to pump them and push damage finishing with ult. I love how well the Gravepurge effects synergise with it, too.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Grist is so cooooool!

[@jaydubs5082]

All I wanted from this set was Grist and I managed to pull a Foil Sketch copy from a prerelease event today! Now all my opponents are going to be asking who turned out the lights

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

i wanted all the walkers and also got em all :P. Only thing i do not like: i got the sketch version as well...I wanted the regular version :c

[@CalebDenn]

I think there are a ton of Lorehold cards from Strixhaven that would work very well in a general Ferrous deck though.

[@PerfectPencil]

Pulled a Sythis from my prerelease kit so I tossed a quick deck together from cards I had in boxes. Shit was insanely easy to storm off with enchantments. Wild.

[@Kaldoran54]

I proxied Ripley, and I had a wild turn 4 treasonous ogre emancipation turn. Literally my new favorite deck to play

[@BobbyBev95]

I think you forgot that Chatterfang combos well with Grave Titan, which instantly shoots the power up to about a 9 IMO

[@Canyonmimbs]

So impressed that you guys have made a whole list! Keep up the great work, but seriously I still haven’t seen grave titan cmon😡

[@NitpickingNerds]

He’s not legendary! Maybe legendarily bad hahahahahahahahahaha

[@zotmaster]

@@NitpickingNerds Zing!

[@davidbrinton7173]

I really like that dr who episode it’s the one that introduced dr riversong

[@TheSilverFox442]

A check of Scryfall says there are 185 cards that are exactly Boros colors (possibly give or take the two Red/White MDFCs from Strixhaven, I didn't check for those). So yeah, definitely limited in options for Rokirik.

[@TheSilverFox442]

Also Wear//Tear, though I think that actually counts if you fuse it.

[@plaxy100]

I think the power of Carth was Underrated in my opinion. Lowering the cost of abilies can be devestating think things like Ghorruck being able to insta Ult giving you the +3/+3 trample token or Even 6 cost Vraska becomes a must answer threat with him out ups for 3 cost 8 to ult for Insta death token.

[@CaptTelnet]

“Broken treasure cycle… video on that as soon as they make a green one.” Tireless provisioner: “Am I a joke to you?”

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

Wow, you guys did some serious ranking 😂 Have you ever looked into the lore of Fallen Empires btw? Beautiful set that would def scoren 10+ on the coolness meter 🍻

[@ozmond]

Hahaha

[@hughjakeman5296]

Didn't expect a boss baby reference on an mtg video 10/10

[@ChrisB-ox5rn]

Really think you should give carth another thought

[@matthewschwer6048]

Started watching the episode and wondering the whole time how much crap you were gonna give my girl Sythis. Much to my sheer lack of surprise your response was similar to my own after first seeing her, "She does a thing. She does her thing very fast and very well. While she is fun at parties she is also the kind of lady one might take home to meet the parents." I haven't been playing a lot so I haven't gotten many cards recently, but I had some money left after rent and bought a MH2 box and there in one of the packs was Piru, but in another pack I saw Sythis, immediately fell in love her, and began building an EDH deck with her name on it. Enchantments, creatures that care about enchantments, enchantments that care about enchantments, other things that care about things caring about enchantments, you know, a massive singleton enchantress bonanza with Sythis at the helm. Now the play testing begins.

[@RazgrizAce67]

I think you guys underrated Ragavan. I've played against that deck a few times and it gets stupid so fast. It's basically a guarantee for the first 1-3 turns you are going to be ahead on mana. It just snowballs so quickly!

[@NitpickingNerds]

It is possible seems ok but could be better then we think

[@guillermoromero8041]

I think the art in the borderless tourach looks like dude in the mystical archive faithless looting.

[@boombox_up_to_11]

@NitpickingNerds You can't just deal with Svyelun instead of paying ward towards other creatures if they have two merfolk unless you specifically have exile removal, as its indestructible. It also survives wrath effects.

[@bryanpmcgowan]

BZ reminded me of that video where the weatherman pronounces the Welsh city with the crazy name without stumbling. Ever see that?

[@NitpickingNerds]

Nope 👎

[@bryanpmcgowan]

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[@jean-baptistedelabroise5391]

Piru + repercussion sounds fun to me xD

[@pknepps]

Just for reference you are at 106 days of daily content

[@NitpickingNerds]

Thanks for letting us know

[@cv4126]

Used your Tcgplayer link to buy some upgrades for my commander deck.

[@backlogbrewery769]

For Yusri, the 5 wins of 5 coin flips in a row has a 3.13% probability. in this case, each coin clip has a 50% chance of a win. when you add krark's thumb, the probability of winning 5 coin flips jumps to 23.73%. in this case, each coin flip (with krark's thumb) has a 75% chance of a win.

[@lordosis5650]

Lonis, cryptozoologist looks like slush art from ravnica bth.

[@MrTheVori]

I was really excited for carth superfriends...guess I'll rethink IT after their take on him

[@kirkheisterkamp6988]

I think they undervalued him. He'll lead a solid super friends deck even with the super jank planeswalkers. It might not get to 10/10 power but could easily get to an 8/10

[@darkmagiks3605]

Zabaz gonna see play in modern. It's a 1 drop 2/2(unless I am mistaken) hardened scales means it's a 1 drop 3/3 that pumps the crap outta something else. It will be very good in modern aggro.

[@PokeStatsStudios]

Ah yes, Zabaz, the Glimmerwasp, the bee. Not a wasp, no. A bee.

[@nobodyfromnowwhere7510]

General Ferrous would be awesome in a Niv Mizzet deck.

[@baidrulhisham7132]

Garth is my favourite commander right now. He is the reason, i play all colors in 1 deck ^_^

[@angelusnielson7135]

I'm going with the Urza reprint for the most powerful... :P

[@asteiner274]

Can anyone explain why Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar doesn't dodge commander tax? A quick Google gave me mixed opinions.

[@TheFirstTriplefife]

I looked into why the dash mechanic doesn't avoid commander cost and its the same issue as with Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar. Its because in the text its described as a casting cost. Casting costs are tied into commander tax, where as if it says something like pay X and put your commander into play would actually bypass the commander tax. Its silly word salad ruling, but those are the rules.

[@bradwinward1237]

Do you guys have a spreadsheet or any area we can go to see your updated list? I'd love to see what the rankings look like now with all the new sets that have come out since your original list

[@samuraicupcake289]

Coolness seems like such a vague and subjective factor. I think it would be better to have a flavor score, based off clear things like lore, flavor text, previous appearances, references, etc.

[@PokeStatsStudios]

All of those would still be subjective, though.

[@samuraicupcake289]

@@PokeStatsStudios there can be lore or there be not, same with flavor text, previous appearances or references. These are 4 pretty objective points. Then you can add extra points if they're good or excellent. For example : for Asmo, the lore is super detailed (theres a whole story), 3 pts, flavor text is good and really funny, 3 pts, never appeared before 0 pts, has a reference in a classic card and fits the description, 2 pts, thats an 8/10.

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

Piru is a card that i put in my UR dragon deck...cuz why not. It would be uber good in a Kaalia deck.

[@Sunny_Punkin]

To be honest I like the Life gain on Sythis almost as much as the draw. If I were to build her, it would lean into life gain synergies as much as possible.

[@ExKiwi-yw8er]

monogreen is GREAT at storming off, it just takes a little doin'. all you need is a lot of mana and a lot of card draw, which are things green does super well. try it out sometime!

[@dif4797]

I love my Goreclaw deck!

[@dennismarinos2129]

So where can we find the complete list?

[@imaginarywolf8115]

I made Thrasta works too much without food chain using aluren and guardian project. Played like 12 cards in one turn.

[@nzephier]

Lathiel makes me want to build a horse deck and put sun quan in it. Nothings more unstoppable than flying horses on horses.

[@ericsanchz]

Hello comments…I’ve only been playing magic about a month…loving it so far. Carth the Lion looks really cool to me and I was just wondering how would you go about building a deck with him…I know planeswalkers will be important but what kinda of creatures/spells would you use to synergize with the commander? Thanks

[@captainrustbeard461]

I myself put some removals, cards that bring planeswalkers back. For creatures I put ramp creatures and for heavy hitters I have Beledros Witherbloom, Elder Gargaroth and Kodama of the East Tree.

[@simianurchin7630]

Would you put old gnaw bone in the broken treasure cycle?

[@DJBVWA]

My Garth deck did well for it's first two plays.

[@grandogrando6505]

Comment #17,045, I have seen that episode of dr.who, and it (or they, I think there's a couple) is one of the scariest and best

[@calemr]

Yusri+Krark's Thumb has a 23.7% chance of triggering the omniscience effect. almost 1/4.

[@Yakmage]

Asmor's cost goes up with commander tax because your still casting her

[@edwardvanessen330]

They said that in the video...

[@sirrzoidberg3771]

I’m surprised that chatterfang is not number one mh2 commander since it wins faster than the others. I don’t think you can win on turn 3 with the ones you guys picked after him. I’d look him up more because there are several combos that other token commanders can’t. You can make an aristocrats combo deck with a go wide sub theme.

[@NitpickingNerds]

This mot just a power list so even if we missed something power wise he would go much higher 😊

[@mrpopsful]

I didn't realize that a commander can go back to the command zone even if it gets exiled from the graveyard

[@juts89]

903.9a If a commander is in a graveyard or in exile and that object was put into that zone since the last time state-based actions were checked, its owner may put it into the command zone. This is a state-based action. See rule 704. 903.9b If a commander would be put into its owner’s hand or library from anywhere, its owner may put it into the command zone instead. This replacement effect may apply more than once to the same event. This is an exception to rule 614.5.

[@CalebDenn]

Chatterfang actually makes PLUS X / Minus X until end of turn.

[@RazgrizAce67]

Beezy, I know what episode of Doctor Who you were talking about! Super creepy.

[@nolanpearson211]

Where is the link to y'all's spreadsheet??

[@sleepwellmychild]

Guys! No link to spreadsheet in the description!

[@Teaspoonful]

22:48 my favorite part

[@spidermonkey28]

Tourach, Dread Cantor not great as a commander, but amazing when paired up with Tergrid God of Fright.

[@rthayes00]

You never put the spreadsheet link in the info

[@dubbainky]

I don't see a link to the spreadsheet :(

[@CHAREDot9]

You guys should take petitions from viewers for why they think a certain commander should have a different rank (higher lower) could be a cool video with some community interaction

[@bobsimon8547]

Where's the link to the speadsheet, I can't find it

[@isaiahzimmerman7683]

What was number one commander of all time on ure list again??

[@heavenbot]

Wtf Beezy, I didn't need to remember Silence in the Library, that episode scarred me. I'll just pretend you never said that and keep referring to Grist as naked Oogie Boogie

[@perturaboIV]

Need a pirate dinosaur commander now

[@josephfishman9825]

I'm one of those two people who silence in the library relates to, super creepy

[@grandogrando6505]

Karth's color combinations suck, because in his lore he helps dakkon but dakkon can't be in his deck, and not many unique planeswalkers are in golgari

[@victoravilesruiz7554]

But Garruk tribal

[@grandogrando6505]

@@victoravilesruiz7554 you got me there

[@lukassaunders7420]

Isn't Nicol Bolas a non-humanoid planeswalker...?

[@lukassaunders7420]

And Ugin, for that matter (:

[@NitpickingNerds]

They are both humanoid

[@lukassaunders7420]

@@NitpickingNerds Idk, I'd argue that they resembled dragons, not humans

[@NitpickingNerds]

They are both humanoid

[@NitpickingNerds]

@@lukassaunders7420 they are dragons that have an extremely human like form.

[@Greg501-]

Garth is the worst commander until we get official Black Lotus tokens

[@danmccarthy7038]

Ha! One of my favorite Doctor episodes!

[@ticomtg]

I do not see the list in the description

[@NitpickingNerds]

It will be added on a bit. Had a weird day lol 😂

[@thatzombifiedpotato4925]

where is the spread sheet? is it on the discord or am i just being an idiot

[@bananatron6930]

I think you’re sleeping on Carth a little bit. If he’s on the field, there’s a _lot_ of walkers who come down, plus, and then your opponents *must* address then or else you just ult them and get some big dumb emblem. Also, one of the Garruks is an instant permanent overrun.

[@grandogrando6505]

To really be gambling, give yusri infect! Then you have to win all five flips, right?

[@spencerroques1137]

wheres the spreadsheet??

[@g33kaholic24]

He wasnt a war hero. He was the last surviving member of his town. xD It was such a massacre that his name "Carth" was actually the name of the settlement

[@nicolaslarranaga8721]

With a Krark's thumb, each of the five toss for Yusri gives you a 2/3 chance to to win, so the probability of winning all 5 is 0.666^5, i.e. roughly 0.13.

[@zotmaster]

Wouldn't you have a 75% chance to win an individual flip, because essentially you'd have to lose 2 50/50 flips for each flip, which has a 1/4 chance of happening?

[@jorallan]

This ^^ so the answer is (0.75)^5 = 0.237.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Yes

[@nicolaslarranaga8721]

@@zotmaster No there are 3 possible events, you win the first, lose the first then win the second, or lose both. So you have to consider three individual possibilities for each toss, not 4!

[@zotmaster]

@@nicolaslarranaga8721 That's incorrect. Thumb forces you to flip two coins. So there are four outcomes: Win-win Win-lose Lose-win Lose-lose 3 of those result in you winning, so your odds of winning a flip with Thumb are 3/4. Another way of checking your math is to look at the fact that you have a 1/2 chance to lose the first flip, and a 1/2 chance of losing the second. 1/2 * 1/2 is 1/4, meaning you have a 1/4 chance to lose and a 3/4 chance to win any single coin flip event.

[@timgil7830]

How the hell did you guys pronounce asmoranomardistinawhatever right but you couldn't get "chatterfang"?

[@catit6599]

4:37 pun intended? 🐝

[@sephyrias883]

03:50 This has to have some kind of unique combo, right? Not that it is powerful regardless. 12:30 Power rating 2 seems a bit low for a Storm payoff in the command zone, but maybe I'm overestimating it. 39:30 I agree that the Garth is strong and a decent commander, but I really don't like the way it is worded. Having to remember exactly what all the values on those cards are, like cmc, stats, etc, is a bit annoying. Not particularly in issue here since they're mostly iconic cards, but still.

[@justinscott1315]

I run a Zabaz deck and it's actually very powerful deck that is hyper flexible. Targeted removal does nothing, the power of my creatures shift around and it very VERY easily kills other players in 1 or 2 turns just because of how artifact recursion in boros works. White+ artifacts to the battlefield options and you just get to pick and shove creatures in and otu of the gy, making them bigger each time. I've crushed people with my zabaz that was 5/5 one turn and then 27/27 in that same turns combat phase. The moral of the story here, these guys don't actually think outside the box.

[@jamesgratz4771]

The general is a good boros commander. Is it better in the 99? I think so. But even then the body of the deck would need a decent number of multi colored spells. Even then…. I dunno. I like the concept but I don’t know what to do with him lmao

[@NitpickingNerds]

Yeah it feels like he should be 3 color!

[@reubenregler4663]

Tourach is good with Lurrus, just as a Little tip

[@reddragonminecraftmodsandm4366]

Yusri has about a 24% chance to get all five if you get two flips each time

[@dantheminecraftmandtmm6821]

Tourach literally claps my playgroup wdym

[@blackmountain1983]

If you have been going straight since February 26 that makes this day 105 in a row! 👍

[@danielackerman5774]

I'm so sick of pros and content creators pretending that Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar is impossible to pronounce, I always appreciate the 'flex' of just dropping the name like it's nothing and moving on

[@NitpickingNerds]

Joe can’t really say it

[@heliaxx]

Sythis the most basic enchantress card ever: Uniqueness 7

[@spudster8887]

Name another legendary that does the exact same thing. You can't hence uniqueness

[@fatalbert357]

It's the first enchantress as a legendary. Ever. The ability may be done a dozen times, but people have been wanting a unrestricted tuvasa for a long time