Honorary mention - Aesi. That commander has solitaire written all over it
@yancy94553 ай бұрын
How do you win in simic without oracle?
@tyroflame27643 ай бұрын
Green is enough to win
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
Yeah don't let the Aesi player start fetching!
@harveyhale11013 ай бұрын
I see a Simic commander that's not Hakbal, I instantly think Solitaire-Combo-Seeking as the whole table watches
@austinpotts73463 ай бұрын
Jhoira weathlight captain - "allow me to introduce myself"
@Beckola443 ай бұрын
These are some really good cards that work together. Using these should be a lot of fun. Thank you Mia and Beezy for the video.
@gam1ng_pr0d1gy73 ай бұрын
Kudo being on a list like this is wild when many very obviously more powerful commanders like Etali, Korvold and Atraxa Grand Unifier got left off.
@archerfeett3 ай бұрын
true but i’m sure one of the aims of the video was to bring light to some other lesser known power houses. pretty much everyone and their mother knows about atraxa or korvold. not to mention i’m pretty sure they’ve discussed korvold and etali on some other “remove on sight” style videos
@colinhofer78303 ай бұрын
Actually slicer with trample vs a chump blocker is ok if the player controlling him just assigns all the combat damage to the blocker. It doesn't have to trample over.
@EBackeberg3 ай бұрын
I love my Kudo deck. Elesh Norn in the 99 is fun but with Avula Queen amoung bears you can go infinite with a Scurry Oak or Basking Broodscale. Ocelot Pride is also an MVP if you get it going early.
@marimi463 ай бұрын
What's funny is that apparently Thassa's Oracle is considered the meme/troll wincon of Nadu decks since you can brick your turn by running into it too early in your Nadu loop. Apparently people prefer to Hullbreaker Horror sol ring loop into finale of devastation because it's much more consistent. Crazy how the non-determinism of the deck makes Thoracle look less appealing
@Shidbird3 ай бұрын
coffee at night is 100% the vibe
@theflaminggroundon6323 ай бұрын
Yeup,
@d9_10563 ай бұрын
Dope opening lol. Coffee at night is my business, and chips in order sounds like fun.
@erichunt19743 ай бұрын
I slipped Elesh Norn into my Kudo, King Among Bears, deck and she really boosts it's power level. The two cards mesh together in a way that's both intuitive and fun for the deck's pilot. The only problem is that if you don't have her, playing your kudo decks makes it an awful lot harder against Krenko, Mob Boss, because all of the goblins are also made into 2/2 bears. Lent Krenko to a friend of mine when testing Kudo for the first time and it was a heck of a lot harder.
@erichunt19743 ай бұрын
I may have written this comment a bit too early. Since my Kudo deck in particular was referenced, there was a game where I had both Champion of Lambholt and Ayula, Queen Among Bears in my opening hand and I immediately became the villain of magic the gathering. Even Krenko, Mob Boss was powerless to stop me that game.
@BobbyBev952 ай бұрын
Ovika is another one. Basically every time I’ve seen it make the next turn cycle, the deck storms off enough to either with with damage, or take 1 or 2 people out with hasty goblins
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus82993 ай бұрын
LOL I put Slicer in my The Rani deck, it be super fun since you can keep adding Mark of the Rani to Slicer and the Doublestrike gives a potential 2 clues, from the combat damage trigger on each opponents turn. The deck can be really fun since it goads creatures while the innocuous clues stack up and win you the game from Mechanized Production or Cyberdrive Awakener ;p
@ThisIsTheMan9963 ай бұрын
A note, doesnt Kutzil not work with Kudo with 1/1s becoming 2/2s as Kudo sets their BASE power and toughness to 2/2 so to Kutzil its as if their stats havent changed and so without counters there would be no benefit.
@NateFinch3 ай бұрын
Yeah but almost all Kudo decks have ways to bump your own creature's power so that you are the only one with bigger creatures.
@ThisIsTheMan9963 ай бұрын
@NateFinch I know but I was mostly noting the fact that the video could have made it feel like kutzil and Kudo automatically do that, without any outside buffs needed, I know that the first time I heard that before thinking hard into it I took it as that.
@Goonwild52993 ай бұрын
I play slicer quite a bit, there are some situations where I want everyone to stay alive as long as possible to make it so i don’t have to be in a 1v1 situation which is unfavorable to me. Cool vid and thanks for highlighting my favorite commander
@CTimmerman3 ай бұрын
Sounds like you could use a Loxodon Warhammer.
@Goonwild52993 ай бұрын
@@CTimmerman nope, it’s not about having enough life. Loxodon hammer also heals other people since the creature gets lifelink. And trample isnt good, opponents can just assign all the damage to the blocking creature
@CTimmerman3 ай бұрын
@@Goonwild5299 Life of the Party, Bedlam, War Cadence, War's Toll, Magistrate's Veto, Baeloth Barrityl, and Hot Pursuit for flavor then.
@isidoreaerys87453 ай бұрын
18:40 I think you are selling spring heart Nantuko short. Yesterday I managed to create an army of Phyrexian Obliterators with that card. It shouldn’t be underestimated.
@timgil78303 ай бұрын
Definitly not a card to sell short. I run it in my etali primal conqueror deck and it is a problem. Also, etali should be on their list
@geofferiswheel3 ай бұрын
Moxfield ads have been seriously on point lately. I'm guessing 11:11 today but I'm probably wrong or a liar.
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
Hey, you never know 😂
@TheOpenmindStudio3 ай бұрын
Tergrid, God of Fright is the kind of theme (spooky stuff) I love - but now I feel like I can never play a commander deck with her if she's renown to be hated xD?
@elmothejunkie3 ай бұрын
There is no casual tergrid deck. If you play her, be honest about how strong it is.
@loydpena27723 ай бұрын
I've only played against slicer in Cedh. And he's never not out turn 1 and is a hassle to deal with
@SpiralPawprint3 ай бұрын
I love my Gummy Bear Deck which is just a slime against humanity deck with Kudo as the the commander
@Mecal003 ай бұрын
This is the freshest I've seen a video :)
@timothygerbig8752 ай бұрын
Scute Swarm's ability to replicate itself definitely matters, because it grows exponentially, instead of just one creature at a time. It takes almost nothing to have 32, 64, and then 128 Scute Swarms.
@wtgibs913 ай бұрын
Slicer certainly demands removal and is fun to play. Soul Shatter won’t work on Slicer though because he can’t be sacrificed.
@egoish67623 ай бұрын
His un sacableness is tied to his upkeep ability, so he cannot be sacrificed for a turn when he is donated to an opponent but when under its owners control it can be sacrificed.
@aldotrioksidi3 ай бұрын
@@egoish6762Or in response to the upkeep ability
@egoish67623 ай бұрын
@@aldotrioksidi thats an interesting one, it's still under it's owners control while the upkeep ability is o the stack so it will work that way yes. In essence whenever slicers owner controls it you can force a sacrifice.
@psychozen71693 ай бұрын
Adeline attack before damage Holy Day(Holiday). Or the white spore frog so many tokens. With elesh norn.
@lukabotica79843 ай бұрын
I have a full combo "budgety" Stella deck with only one creature - Simian Spirit Guide which only serves as a ritual spell anyways. I've sent the list to my friends, they were upset with my list. 😂
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
Sounds like it SLAPS
@curtissearle64623 ай бұрын
BEEZY. My brother you almost game a heart attack at the beginning. I thought you were gonna say you eat your potato chips the tall way. (Instead of eating the chip flat it's up and down if that makes sense) lol
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
THAT WOULD BE SO UNHINGED
@joshuaday90693 ай бұрын
I can't stand slicer, it's basically one guy gets killed early. Then finally the slicer deck gets put under control and probably won't win. So you just get one guy who is unlucky and dies to a guy who wouldn't win anyway
@evanelliott82313 ай бұрын
Ha! This video is cute. You don’t know TERROR until you’ve played against my Gyruda clone deck. It just keeps flipping into more and more Gyrudas!
@guillermobanosflores73313 ай бұрын
Thoughts on Yarok, the Dececrated ? I just built a deck with him and he seems OP af
@MichaelPesta3 ай бұрын
I approve
@thatguyintherain31683 ай бұрын
Sometimes fun to try things? Beezer, make a deck without any 2 drops! Challenge!
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
Ooo, Keruga companion challenge?
@thatguyintherain31683 ай бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds I should have been more specific, you got me there. Added challenge to avoid green!
@johnathanward8673 ай бұрын
Time to make a slicer deck. In fact I wanted to build a budget, high power deck to beat the decks at my lgs.
@5percenter13 ай бұрын
Nadu tbh can't really be put on this list, cos it is strictly a c commander. Dont even. try to play it in casual.
@timothygerbig8752 ай бұрын
The hidden text on Jetmir says, "Any number of target players lose the game."
@crankyryno3 ай бұрын
Is the Kutzil not broken by Kudo? Kudo changes the base power and toughness so if a 1/1 turns into a 2/2 it won't trigger the card draw because the base changed it wasn't made bigger
@scheikundeiscool40863 ай бұрын
Kudo serriusly is a pretty strong commander. At least if you play against creature bassed strageties. Often because it crushes everyones else creatures whil you are playing creatures whit effects that get boosed you end up whit a board that is overwhelmingly stronger then everyone else as long as kudo is in play. It also slows the game way down because it is hard to attack each other if everything is a 2/2
@andrewdimaggio50453 ай бұрын
pretty sure kuztil does NOT work with kudo because kutzil checks to see if their power is greater than their base power, but kudo makes their BASE p/t 2/2
@evilrok29363 ай бұрын
hi will you be doing a deck upgrade guide for draconic destruction?
@chadsamuels65123 ай бұрын
I like the slicer pick but i think Alexios is slightly more dangerous double strike is slightly better than trampl but alexios will buff himself and the ability to not attack you at all is significantly better than goad. You will never have to worry about dying to your own commander.
@francisserpa44653 ай бұрын
I have Kutzil in my Jetmir deck, because he is a cat. Cats are the only creatures in the deck. It makes me feel a little less guilty for playing Jetmir, but there are still a lot of cats that make more cats
@tristanpicard13252 ай бұрын
Built Alexios, Deimos of Kosmos recently. It’s Slicer on steroids.
@kdchmln3 ай бұрын
champion of lambholt is a slept-on card
@MrMattogreen253 ай бұрын
What if you put Helm of Hosts in that first Elesh Norn deck? Her abilities stack, you'd make it impossible for opponents to play any creatures whatsoever
@paulszki3 ай бұрын
Helm of the Host is a super strong effect, sure, but that's another 9 mana. If Elesh Norn is out, it's probably best to accelerate towards a win or to draw into cards that keep her on the board. Helm of the Host admittedly does both (gives your guys another 2 power to swing with and if elesh gets removed, you still have a copy out). But if I untap with Elesh in play and I have 9 mana to spend there's any number of spells that can win the game for me. E.g. Moonshaker Cavalry (the white Craterhoof Behemoth) for 8 mana or something like Grand Crescendo (isntant x-spell, make x weenies and give your stuff indestructible for a turn. play to protect your elesh from removal but also put seven 3/3 creatures into play with elesh norn and 9 mana out and on your untap just end one player.) Playing Helm of the Host for sure isn't a "mistake" but it's also not some super special synnergy. You're just doubling up on Elesh Norn and if they can't deal with that, then they couldn't deal with any number of other big spells you can conceivably cast for 9 mana. It's basically "make a clone" outside blue colors ... but for colorless 9 mana. It's still very cool!
@adamholcomb19063 ай бұрын
Yuo I know her all too well, my favorite Evil Commander Tergrid, when I bring here out at my local game store while playing Commander I always get dirty looks….It’s the Price of being EVIL🖤😈👍🏼👍🏼💯
@GrimmTutelage3 ай бұрын
17:41 because sometimes it's fun to just try things 😂
@jackf10033 ай бұрын
Um no. As of this summer the most dangerous commanders/decks (objectively) are Nadu, Rog/Si, Sissay, and Tymna/Kraum. Idk wtf u guys are on about
@supremecourt41313 ай бұрын
Yeah the videotitle is super missleading .. especially for beginner players
@crusader45943 ай бұрын
I’m finally first but haven’t planned on it and have nothing interesting to say
@davidrosenberg96153 ай бұрын
Sadly, in the time it took you to type that, someone beat you. 😢
@crusader45943 ай бұрын
@@davidrosenberg9615damn RIP to me
@jacobbrown98943 ай бұрын
Woohoo Adeline mention. That’s my girl
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
TWO Adeline mentions!
@IslarfPokemon3 ай бұрын
Do not let Arcum Dagsson untap, or keep a lightning greaves on board
@SchemingGuide3 ай бұрын
Yidris is very dangerous if built vorrectly
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
Can definitely create some huge swings!
@JayTheDragonKing3 ай бұрын
"At night"😂😂😂 big same tbh
@TheAmazingSpiderman873 ай бұрын
There's serious, then there's playing dreadmaw, storm crow, and grave titan in the same deck piloted by mimeoplasm serious.
@tyroflame27643 ай бұрын
Also honourably mentions to Orvar and Godo
@shawnpanzegraf56423 ай бұрын
Garfield, I love Commander’s Plate in my Vorinclex deck. Making people deal with the 9/9 (vanishingly unlikely minimum stat line, that) that’s Prot. Everything But Green, while I’m actually pursuing a plan the Big Guy is just a KoS smokescreen for is delicious, because it *keeps working even against players that know better* . Eat. Garruk. Tokens. So sad you forgot the dust and cobwebs *can* be blown off the rest of Doubling Season’s text box. :)
@SuperbFairy2 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see that nadu got banned recently, on top of being horribly designed it just takes so long for nadu to play out and there isn't a clear path to win off of it, it's boring to play against and takes too long to not even secure the win I'm glad to see it gone even if it's so fast
@HighTechCinnamon3 ай бұрын
No Urza? Guess I can finally build him..
@Funkytowwn10125 күн бұрын
My toxril deck loves you Kudo decks :)
@onlymonkeyspoint13 ай бұрын
What does everyone think about the assassin's creed alexios as slicer type commander?
@snowmanO073 ай бұрын
He’s pretty busted, not a very fun commander imo after the first time
@platinume23163 ай бұрын
played a five man game with someone who had an alexios. they rolled highest and immediately played mountain, jeweled lotus, alexios. Someone was dead turn 1, I was 2, the next person was 3, and finally turn 4 the game was won by the alexios player. I dont think alexios is a game ending threat, it is the fast mana. considering that it isn't hard to get alexios down turn two.
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
He seemed pretty good at first glance
@Tuchpi3 ай бұрын
A bit weaker because you can't save him as easily as Slicer with artifact synergy like Welding Jar etc
@snowmanO073 ай бұрын
@@Tuchpi nah he’s tougher. The whole table is on a 3 turn timer which starts as earlier at turn 3. He deals 22 or 26 commander damage in the first turn cycle, which on turn 3 is insane. Turn 4, where you are more likely to have a decent blocker, he is 9+ power/toughness so you can’t kill him without spot removal. That’s all without any consideration of the owner buffing or protecting the creature. Slicer is easier to remove being an artifact, so any artifact synergies are arguably neutral due to easier removal. He also has no trample, and no built in buffing like Alexios; evasion and hitting harder are like the two main pieces of a Voltron strategy which are both built-in for one and not the other.
@charlesshell16823 ай бұрын
I think you guys forgot the reaper king... Is he not mega dangerous
@williampittam13 ай бұрын
Add pollen hare to the elesh norn deck
@dejanmaksimovich13233 ай бұрын
I can understand one of these actually being good Stella sure but the rest really?
@FPLJohto3 ай бұрын
What is this Korvold slander?
@larryohh69743 ай бұрын
deserved
@WilliesBoatToursАй бұрын
What happened to Joe Cherries?
@CTimmerman3 ай бұрын
"Only twice"...per creature?!
@villageflippinidiot3 ай бұрын
Moxfield ad 20:41
@ProfWalton3 ай бұрын
21:05 is my guess for Moxfield.
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
Only one way to find out! Watch the video three times through to make sure
@sonork3 ай бұрын
Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice is incredibly unfun to play against and boring as hell.
@jessmizu5303 ай бұрын
play bruna light of alabaster against it, its a natural foil
@orindark2 ай бұрын
Shocked nekusar isnt here
@brennanmohr73483 ай бұрын
Elish norn plus kudo is god mode. Actually kudo is just god mode.
@jmacias94023 ай бұрын
Was that a Girls reference?
@paulr21243 ай бұрын
no kaalia of the vast???
@moop66673 ай бұрын
Nadu maybe the rest defently isnt the most dangerous in the format I mean cedh is still the same format
@orindark2 ай бұрын
Add god eternal oketra to elesh norn tokens
@supremecourt41313 ай бұрын
This is a really weird list Never saw an Elesh Norn list in cEDH
@RobinRajamoosh2 ай бұрын
Toralf, God of Fury....
@donaldmorrison70553 ай бұрын
Anyone else pre order their mystery booster from secret lair today? 😎
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
WE DID
@kennethjames4915Ай бұрын
Why no time stamps...
@Cajonization3 ай бұрын
You could have literally pulled a cEDH top 7 off the internet and have a better list 👀
@DoctorBrickzАй бұрын
16:13?
@Novcheck3 ай бұрын
Or play Jodah the unifier and put all of these in it. Nah just kidding. But honestly. Where is jodah?
@ScarHydreigon873 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention Kudo, King Among Bears for Elesh Norn. Put her in the 99 of a Kudo Deck and it's insane.
@Trisket3 ай бұрын
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite isn't in the top 100 most dangerous commanders...
@NitpickingNerds3 ай бұрын
It might depend on what your definition for dangerous is
@cadedooley4603 ай бұрын
Stinky what now???
@BILLGUNNS3 ай бұрын
Someone in my playgroup plays jetmir he’s not that scary
@danielprivate80383 ай бұрын
Coffe at night :p
@cakelegend65823 ай бұрын
I like dinosaurs
@deviousj58683 ай бұрын
I hate Dinosaurs. I go against them more and more. They're certaintly being targeted first.