NITROUS BUICK 455-THE OTHER GUYS

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

This has to be one of the coolest Dyno series I have ever seen... Love seeing odd ball stuff!! You should find a 401 AMC to do and of course add boost!

[@richardholdener1727]

yes

[@chesspiece81]

They are building one on Roadkill Garage for an AMX

[@turbomopie]

Hardest working guy on KZbin right here

[@jaydunbar7538]

I dont know, Simon may take that tittle with his 45 channels.

[@ChipsAndSparksGarage]

These “Other Guys” videos, are the best! 👍

[@Doosterify]

LOL, my brother bought a 1970 Buick Skylark GS 455 for $2200 in 1984. It was junky with 134,000 miles and had at least one collapsed lifter. When he bought it, it was slow AF wit a 2.93 open diff and the secondaries in a Quadrajet that were not opening. Getting the Q-jet to work right was easy but once he did that it was a peg leg burnout hero. He bought a 3.36 posi rear rear for $200 and a set of Pro-Track L-60-15s and slapped them in and all of a sudden it was winning at the local street race spot where we lived. . It was running mid 13s by the stopwatch which at the time was respectful but not a top dog. He also had a 64 Pontiac LeMans With an L-78, 375 horse big block Chevy with a bigger cam and a single plane Eddy intake that was running high 11s by the stopwatch. Everyone wanted to race his Pontiac but his rule was in order to run against his LeMans they had to beat his Buick first. Only a handful of cars made it past the Buick to race his LeMans. All of these races took place on the Rt 40 connector in Hamden Connecticut and it was on a slight upgrade with crappy traction. God I miss those days.

[@emanuelnamseth1469]

The mad scientist is at it again.

[@RENEGADEX800]

I have never seen a big Buick with a turbo. Cant wait!

[@59vaughn]

Don Lau Shucks...the small Buick with turbo was over the top of the others , up to pro stock....just take a look at what buddy ingersoll was doing....

[@glenholmgren1218]

@@59vaughn GNX forever! 👍😁

[@LucoreAuto]

Nice lil 100 shot gave you just over 100tq/100hp without putting TOO much stress on it. We 'ole big block folks do really appreciate the attention!

[@alshotrodgarage4779]

Looking forward to the turbo install. Thanks Richard you’re the man

[@Mattvardaman]

I love the torque output of the 455. I bet this thing really comes alive with a decent camshaft and springs!

[@aiervese1991]

I'm such a fan of these "other guys" videos. My favorite was the 400 ford, but when you get finished with this one it just might be my favorite.

[@thedude7726]

300-6 by far . i turbod an old 150 i got down south and it was nasty. Dude i sold it to 4 years ago is still running on the same build i put together an loves it.

[@konnerkramer329]

I think the 400 ford surprised a lot of people. That thing was pretty stout

[@quicksilver462]

YEA! I love the BBB 455. I had a rusted out 1970 Electra 225 I took the 455 out of (370hp/510tq), and put it in my 1986 Regal!!! FUN!

[@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198]

I had a 70 Electra 455. Had 53000 miles on it. Pulled it an put it in a 85 chevy half ton 4x4. To this day. Best truck I ever owned. As far as power and fuel mileage. I got 18 back and forth to work and 14 to 14.5 mpg pulling my race car. And with 3.08 gears and 33" tires. It would run faster than trucks should ever go.

[@quicksilver462]

@@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198 510 lb/ft @ 2800 RPM BABAY!!!!

[@russgould707]

@@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198 Did you use the sm465 transmission?

[@jonvenden4284]

I love big blocks and can't deny it. They make everything so groovy.

[@ufarkingicehole]

Nitrous makes everyone happy and everything better!! Thanks Richard!!

[@nova467spanker]

Richard Holdener Thank you for the music being evened out.

[@deanstevenson6527]

nova467spanker : Too quiet for me...but if your happy, Im happy too. Good on you Nova for asking Richard. Im into metal myself, but the 455 to 500 spectrum is where an indeliable impression is made! I guess your 467 is In the Zone too. Nawz sheeple, make the 308 hp zone into a 405 horse stampede!!!!!

[@nova467spanker]

@@deanstevenson6527 I dont run a 467 BBC My stepdad has a 72 Nova with a 467 and I have a 70 Cougar with a 359 Cleveland. My Cleveland have for the most part always put it on his BBC. I made that name so he had to see it every time to remember me lol. I too am a metal head. The only problem I had with the beginning music was it was like 6 db higher than the rest of the video. So it screams in the begining -had to turn down , then turn back up when Richard started talking.

[@glenholmgren1218]

@@nova467spanker Mmmmm! 359 Cougar! The only “small block” to make almost as much torque as a 455 Buick … 🎯👍😁😎🙏🏻

[@shannonmedley4058]

Cool vid. Id like to see an intake upgrade and valve springs dyno'd before the cam swap

[@evalpacer1396]

We LOVE The Other Guys @richardholdener! You RULE!

[@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198]

Try the GS 107. Window rattler cam. I ran that cam in my old Buick. They told me it was the biggest cam I could run with the stock pistons. They told me their 455 with stage 1 cast iron heads. TA performance single plane high rise intake and the same headers you have. Made 520 hp. And that their stage 1 heads were about 25 hp over my plain 1970 350hp engine stock heads. I know that was one hell of a great sounding engine and when the cam started making power at about 3300 rpms. It felt like I was hitting with a 100 shot. Your really making me miss my old skylark. Can't wait for more on this engine. Also. I ran a draw thru turbo on mine at one time. Holy crap it made some power.

[@timluther3431]

Been missing mine too. Had a 72skylark and a 70 in my early 20's. 46 now. The 70 was super sweet, white leather, power everything- even lumbar type airseats. Little windows in the back even had electric motors on them. Anywho, both were just the 350models. My 70 though had a rv cam in it. With a little edlebrock 600 that sucker would move down the highway. Nothing like shifting into 2nd at 65 to 70 mph lol. Now my toy is a clapped 84 camaro - 355 - 350tranny((slightly built)) 373 stock rear end - and of course a little Weiand 142 with a holley 750. It gets it real nice,,, but miss my gold 1970 Skylark everyday.

[@glenholmgren1218]

Sounds like FUN!

[@andyharman3022]

OK, here's the weirdest suggestion for an Other Guys engine: Buick straight-8!

[@Godsy_Garage]

Been following for a long time and love it! 100k followers coming soon!!!

[@maker-matt]

When do we see the Caddy?

[@busij44]

Good stuff.....especially the "xtra" stuff.

[@Kstang09]

I need one of these, yeah the big ones. Actually naw, let's make it two. And Harry, I need it by tonight.

[@XHikotheproX]

My car topped out at 140 mph this morning....in a parking lot...

[@Shane-Singleton]

@@XHikotheproX And then he lost control of it, lol.

[@rickyhunter3514]

Amateurs don’t use nitrous oxide!

[@Parents_of_Twins]

Sweet. This video came out as I was watching other videos from your channel. I watch most of them a couple times because they are awesome.

[@richardholdener1727]

thnx

[@glenholmgren1218]

LOL, And because he takes so fast!

[@DerrickTheMechanic1975]

Great info Richard..Keep the vids coming..👍

[@capsoval]

New shirt idea.... “It works really well”

[@Mattvardaman]

"It was a good combination." on the back.

[@gregwestphal]

I love all of your cool T-shirts!

[@MLFranklin]

Cool test.

[@ryanheidbrier1948]

I have a 1972 Buick 455 that torn apart and the stock Buick 350 that came out of my 1970 Buick GS. Swapping in a 6.0 LY6. Just ordered a bunch or Texas Speed parts to make 560 hp plus.

[@richardholdener1727]

that works too

[@GB-zi6qr]

Sweet vid Rich! Thanks for all the work! Really like these other guys vids.

[@tombrown879]

Thanks for the ongoing updates on the timing and such. another great buick build in the works. ……….. Oooo I know anouther build you could do if you ever get the chance. I remember an article years ago. I think in car craft, but it may have been hot rod. that Buick at one time took a nail head engine, and ran a turbo setup on it, but since the valves were small, they ran it backwards. Blow thru the exhaust side, and out the intake. they didn't have problem getting air in. but needed the bigger intake valves to get that air out. if I remember right. it made somewere in the 800hp range.

[@danieldelpha1315]

The videos are so good that you can hit the like before even watching 👀. Thank you for the content.

[@brettanderson6743]

Awesome results. Looking forward to the turbo test. BOOOOSSTTT!!!!

[@richardholdener1727]

You and me both!

[@douggorton1482]

Some more Flint Buick stories. My best buddy from HS bought his bosses speed shop after he came back from Vietnam. In the late 1970's he became one of the first to offer NOS kits. We put a set on a boat tail Rivera (huge car) and ran a chain for a travel limiter on the left front. Put slicks on it and it would pull the left front tire. Next thing we know Buick engineers came over to get a kit to play around with. Never heard what they did with it but that Rivvy was a terror on the street.

[@slowg9706]

I was thinking about selling the stg1 455 motor sitting in the garage and funding my c10’s upcoming heart transplant with it but now you got me thinking......

[@toefield251]

Dual plane hi rise with a square bore flange would be tasty

[@jimclarke1108]

Buick 455 top of the heap, best of all

[@drbendaroo9610]

Have a 70 stage one in mothballs, this is motivating me to get wrenching on it!

[@shitbox7413]

Damn I love nitrous, so simple and so effective on any engine. 👍🏻

[@dannycalley7777]

R.H..............Do you think the timing is backed up at the camshaft, like a lot of 70s smog engines, Fords the worst ???????? good job with the Outsiders !!!!!!!

[@patlandymore7035]

Cool test! I love how fearless you can be with donated engines from someone else’s junk pile 😁

[@richardholdener1727]

I've been plenty fearless with lots of motors from the junkyard-but we do it smart!

[@erenzoscroggins8056]

Other guys is way more excited... Buick Power to the Front baby💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@johnholm8175]

Now David is sorry he gave it away

[@flyonbyya]

Buick 455 with an aluminum intake weighs about the same as a stock SBC

[@glenholmgren1218]

And makes T. O. R. Q. U. E. ! 😮😎😁🙏🏻

[@marthamryglod291]

How did they save so much weight? Is the block thin?

[@mechanicalking]

Love the music in the beginning its badass

[@richardholdener1727]

me too-I dance every time

[@pauljohnson7may]

A good point regarding the timing and fueling, especially with limited dyno time. While the hp & torque figures might be a little disappointing on the dyno sheet, that's nothing compared to a rod sticking out of the side of the block or a holed piston.

[@loafbred]

Kenne-Bell used to sell adapters to mount Mopar intakes on the Buick. Maybe somebody you know has a street tunnel ram to test on it.

[@jimmyhamm6041]

My first car was a gold Buick Lesabre 455 4 barrel quadra-jet carb. $225 car. Even just as is you can power brake it and pop tires. Highway power grabs let you see the gas gauge actually move from F to Empty. Back when gas was .78 per gallon.

[@nickanagnostou5408]

Would love to see some of those big blocks from the late 50s and 60s like the MEL 430 and 462 and see if they actually made as much power as they used to quote.

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

Yeah, that engine would be nice in my Roadmaster. I love low rpm torque

[@futten3230]

OOF squarebore on a spreadbore intake OOOUUCCHH

[@Max-me9xq]

Can’t wait for the turbo. Best auto channel out here

[@bcbloc02]

I can’t like it when I love it!! Any power gains Or losses that occur when operating rich of stoichometric are purely due to minor heat changes from the difference in fuel. You can’t burn anymore fuel than you had air for so it’s just I burned fuel going out the exhaust. So while fuel rich is super wasteful it won’t hurt power much.

[@christopherpoucher483]

The buick 455 is the lightest big block gm produced

[@chrisreynolds6520]

The Cadillac is right there with the Buick in weight and I have a feeling it will outperform the 455 with ease.

[@VTLIFE-so4dc]

"bbbaaaawwww!" Richard, you are the best!, and honestly, any haters, are just dumb. But they dont know, what they dont know, but I still love you!!!

[@richardholdener1727]

thnx for the support

[@bobqzzi]

Fantastic.

[@bigkellyg5947]

On standby waiting for the next episode. I want to see what's going on with the heads, and bottom end.

[@scottsigmon926]

Awesome content

[@DiscGolfDom23]

How about an AMC 360 or 401? One of the more obscure Other Guys for sure!

[@richardholdener1727]

yes

[@premiermarketingco]

Was just thinking the same thing! 360 turbo is what I’d love to see

[@abensryan]

I hope you do some parts from TAperformace

[@Guns_N_Gears]

Torque Monster from the get go!!

[@InvincibleExtremes]

Yeah, conservative nitrous on a big engine like that really helps.

[@timothyryan2847]

I'm hoping it lives and makes huge power. My 455 always had a short fuse

[@Firebird400]

455 Pontiac would be a cool comparison to the Buick 455 . A Pontiac 400 would be interesting to

[@cyruskliewer6855]

Hello I've enjoyed this Series immensely I had some suggestions for future videos. Please keep talking about and showing the afr and timing aspects you are iterating to achieve the results. I would love to see a video where you took a holley efi managed engine LS3 or such give it the normal tune. Then without changing parts look at advanced tuning such as injection timing, individual cylinder timing, individual afr. I would love if one cylinder is detonating first and the remaining can take a few more degrees advance. It would be cool to know whats left on the table from a normal tune. Second idea to take an engine and see how to maximize the torque value regardless of engine speed. Cyrus

[@richardholdener1727]

look at the videos up on individual cylinder tuning, on the effect of timing and AF

[@TheAnonymous1one]

Great video. Appreciate all the effort you put into it 👍

[@richardholdener1727]

Much appreciated!

[@jnljnl8485]

Wish i still had an olds 403 to send you. Probly one of my favorite other guys. Probably took the most punishment of any engine i tried to kill. Would drive an olds 98 down the river bed trough the sand valve floating the entire time. Only car i ever made someone cry in and demand to be let out of. Think it was the fishtailing at 70mph without doors down the river bed.

[@AreaThirteenThirteen]

I had one in a mid 70's custom cruiser wagon and it pulled that big barge around easily.

[@oliverscorsim]

Love the ending man lol and yes please big bang this would be a great truck engine

[@caseyhill5261]

I have a few intakes laying around, single and dual plane

[@michaelblacktree]

Richard: (installs nitrous on a big block) *wub-wub intensifies*

[@someguy2741]

The air/fuel is something I noticed too. I have tuned on it and not much change. I thought I was doing something wrong. At the time I had simple edelbrock carb it and it was tuned pretty good. I went to a guy who specializes in edelbrock and carter AFB carbs. He went to adjust the idle screws and he was amazed how rich they were set.... how can it run? So he reset them to "stock" and it ran like garbage so he started adjusting... ended up as rich as I had. I think the buick 455 is pretty near optimal for below 5000 rpm. You can spin it much faster due to bearing speeds. Increasing flow by cam helps some but other improvements to flow are less effective because the factory choices are sufficient. I think the magic will happen by forced induction! Max RPM of 5500 and all the boost in the world crammed in there. The bottom end is HUGE so it will take it. The thin wall block castings might be dodgy but I always feel that RPM kills motors not power. Add MUCH BOOST!

[@jaydunbar7538]

Rpm not power? Well rpm and power are directly related, (rpm*torque)/5252=HP. Higher torque allows for higher HP at a lower rpm. higher rpm allows for a higher hp while maintaining a lower maximum torque. Higher torque requires a heavier rotating assembly, higher rpm benefits from a lighter rotating assembly. Either way if you over rev a big heavy engine, or if you dump in to much fuel at a low rpm in a small light engine the tuner is destroying it, not the rpm or the torque.

[@Jubr123]

Hell yeah brother! Bring the happy gas in! 😎👌🏼

[@robertkeime4907]

Great video

[@bobcuomo5122]

Nitrous makes everything better !!!

[@lucascb750]

Yeap, the dyno is a tool, it gives data, you interpret it, and make changes accordingly. When you see the power increases stop, or changes cause the threading of the needle, stop and dial it back safe reliable tune achieved lol.

[@evillancer4580]

Please, test the difference between nitrous injection points E.G. carb, port, TB, under the desk :)

[@throwingsparks]

How about featuring the Buick “Odd~Fire” 225 V6.....Talk about the other guys

[@tenorhowlermonkey3454]

I am entertained!

[@hom240]

"5252 rpm" is the target I use when considering a naturally aspirated engine build. For dead rock reliable, most torque and fuel mileage. Peak torque 3-3500 rpm and peak hp 5200rpm. Street, strip and still able to drive on the street. Peak torque 4500rpm and peak hp 6500rpm. Above that it's pure race. This rule does not apply to any kind of forced induction.

[@salogel88]

TBH I like the V8's lazy power and brute torque in low rpm. But man, what I really love is when the V8 is like a buzzsaw(6500+) even for a daily driver.

[@hom240]

@@salogel88 We all do. Problem is they don't last long. Unless you have a bank account like Rockefeller and don't mind spending all your time fixing and repairing broken engines. You'll come to the same conclusion we older fellas come to. Brute force displacement dead rock reliable is hard t to beat.

[@deanstevenson6527]

George Montgomery : Yeeesss!

[@calebnation7797]

My car’s stock peak torque is ~4600rpm and peak power is somewhere up near 6800 with a 7K redline

[@hom240]

@@calebnation7797 Not surprising considering the stronger materials they have to work with now. These smaller engine have to do a lot more work than you think. Compact and subcompact cars today weight much more than their predecessors did. Example; A 68 RS Camaro fully decked out weighed just over 3400lbs. A 2020 RS tips the scales over 4400lbs.

[@jodypierson3137]

Who would leave Richards videos early? Not me.

[@hondatrix]

Richard, I bet you can't split that block...

[@outdamudtv]

I luv dis want to put this size engine in my old school

[@philipferreira33]

In 90% of your videos you talk about increasing the ring gap on a junk yard project. Do you use the same rings and bearings? Do you only increase the ring gap on the top piston? Do you have a video posted that shows the process?

[@richardholdener1727]

i increase ring gap on top and second ring-reuse the same rings and bearings

[@johnathongulley1146]

Awesome video.. I'd Love to see a GMC BB V-6 on here . 405-351 or even bigger maybe even a showdown between 351 GMC 350 Chevy and 351Ford just food for thought

[@richardholdener1727]

not sure on support for big v6

[@andyharman3022]

I have a stroked 478 that would be good...

[@johnathongulley1146]

Not alot of aftermarket but be nice to see what it could do with a little boost

[@karlgross3520]

An oldsmobile diesel converted to gas would be interesting. Was always told they can take some serious abuse.

[@deansapp4635]

Hit the nitrous at 2000 rpm. Second, Does Richard ever sleep ?

[@craigsixta983]

I wanna see a modern 392 hemi.

[@danieldelpha1315]

Have you ever done testing on the zz6 or zz383/ sp383? I have the gm fastburn heads that come with those and am curious what power they can make.

[@richardholdener1727]

yes-they work well

[@GJ-DT]

Makes dam goood power for stock 70s smog engine. Didn't respond much to the headers which is a surprise, probably means it wants more camshaft.

[@chrisreynolds6520]

Saw Car Craft test a Junkyard Pontiac 455 from a mid 70s car in the mid 2000s. The cam was so small in the Pontiac it gained almost nothing from a performer rpm intake and headers. Then they swapped the cam. Gained like 70 hp from a XE274 grind. Went back and put the manifolds on and the power dropped like a rock. The factory cam was the choke point on that Pontiac 455. In all likely hood the smog choked Buick is the same way.

[@jeffclark2126]

How did that not tweak a rod? If it lives we need to see it in a car doing some passes.

[@lloydholt6511]

Where did you buy that high dollar throttle connector? Lol. Great test. This would make a great motor for a boat.

[@richardholdener1727]

i'm all about high $ up in here

[@tatersalad4392]

Hey Richard I’m 16 and I wanna do what you do when I get older what school could I go to to do what you do I’m located in Florida maybe there’s a place that I could go to college at. I have a burning desire to get out there and work on racecars and motors but I don’t have anything to work on hopefully I’ll get a project car and a good motor with the money I’ll get from working at a place when I go back to school close to the school since I live in the middle of nowhere and I can’t drive yet I binge watch your videos day and night and I love to learn from your videos and hopefully use my knowledge when I get a car in the future

[@richardholdener1727]

learn all you can-the internet has lots of info-but lots of knuckleheads too

[@TwoLotus2]

Do not get all your information off the internet. Internet information is mostly sound bites with no background information. Time to start buying books and edumacate yerselph.

[@Mattvardaman]

I got a Hot Rod magazine subscription at 14, and I was super interested in cars. My first vehicle was an 85 Sierra with a 305. I ordered a summit cam and had the heads rebuilt and just went for it. The best thing sometimes is to dive right in! I hope you get your first car soon.

[@tatersalad4392]

Richard Holdener You’re the only dude I watch on KZbin ab motors and boost and all that stuff besides Cleetus McFarland which lives in the same county as me and goes to the same dragstrip at me maybe one day you can come to an event at Bradenton Motorsports Park after all this corona BS and see what it has to offer who knows I could be racing there I’m gonna keep binge watching your videos and work hard to build a racecar, you’ve inspired me and just know every video you make I’m gonna watch when I can I love the stuff you do and I one day wanna do the same just know you have a young fan(s) that loves what you do I hope you never quit

[@robertrodriguezFhortune]

More nitros!

[@douggorton1482]

I was trying to think of why the thing wanted so much timing. All the 455's I have been around want no more than 34 degrees of timing and most run best around 32. Then it hit me. Those are the smog heads. Needs a lot more timing than the 70 or earlier heads. We ran nitrous in the late 70's on a Boat tail Riviera. Ran so good that Buick engineering came to my buddies speed shop (Boyle's Speed Shop, Flint MI.) for a nitrous system. Do not remember if they ever did anything with it.

[@richardholdener1727]

yep

[@gmcnelly2468]

alloy heads; alloy intake; and roller rockers (higher ratio)????

[@chrisgarrett6820]

I'd like to see a J-Tec blow by meter on your Dyno to see observed blow by and the cfm gains when adding nitrous, turbo timing ect

[@markwallace5274]

Love the videos Richard I stuck around till the end which leads to my question in your experience have you seen or dyno tuned a NA combination that made the best power with total timing of 27 degrees or lower with knock not being an issue thats just where the engine wants to be ?

[@richardholdener1727]

ls motors tend to be 29, the 454 gen 6 motor is low too-just means the chamber is either small or efficient

[@dilsher12]

Plenty of modern engines will make peak power in that range of timing especially DOHC stuff with Variable valve timing , lift and variable length intake . Some of them reach over 100% VE .

[@ronwest7930]

Nitrous looks like fun but it runs out. I would be curious to see some kind of comparison between NOS and a turbo or a blower. power versus money spent? How many bottles of nitrous till you could have bought a complete turbo or a supercharger?

[@redlight3932]

nos is better for many reasons but the biggest reason for me is that it keeps the engine n\a so its more reliable and saves you money very quickly considering you don't need fab work for nos atall

[@ronwest7930]

@@redlight3932 How much for a tank fill? and how long does it last versus a one-time investment in a blower. or turbo?

[@redlight3932]

@@ronwest7930 depending on quality and size 3 to 400 for a bottle and 2 dollars to 4 dollars per pound of nos so do math depending how big a nos bottle u want to run

[@redlight3932]

A turbo and supercharger usually go for 1k to 3k or 2k to 5k and up depending on howmuch work you do yourself

[@redlight3932]

Nos installation is very very easy and requires little tools opposed to a turbo superchargers are easy aswell

[@RecklessBlueF100]

Can you do a rebuild gains episode? Any worn out junkyard engine that runs. New rings bearings, oil etc. Bore plain, otherwise stock etc. Can you gain 5, 10, 20 hp just by freshening up an engine?

[@richardholdener1727]

I've gained 0 hp on a rebuild before-not cool

[@peterlyons4389]

What are the mufflers on that motor ??? Love the impromptu motor rev sound you made for it. It reminded me of when I would play on the floor with my match box cars. Keep on keeping it real !!!!! 👍🏻

[@richardholdener1727]

did you hear the VTEC?

[@peterlyons4389]

No but I’ll look it up

[@funfun8095]

👐

[@deanstevenson6527]

fun fun : Put your Handz zup...for Detriot. Flint even.