MTG Top 10: Angels | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 250

[@thatonedudejake]

I could go to sleep, or I could watch a top 10

[@plaguedoctorj.c4963]

My life in a nut shell

[@leviv168]

"A" top ten. More like...10 to 10s

[@courtneywesley3523]

@@leviv168 4am & I'm on my 8th..so far......this night 😔

[@imsorrydave9000]

Relatable

[@toastghost9145]

Compromise: fall asleep to a Top 10.

[@alsween218]

For as many times as Serra Angel has been printed I'd figure she'd at least get an honorable mention😔

[@mattblom3990]

A Top 10 I was waiting for the most - love my angel decks.

[@budah155]

Made a badass angle commander deck build around angel of hope

[@mattblom3990]

@@budah155 I don't play commander...But, Avaycn, Angel of Hope is one of my favourite cards so kudos to you sir! I've got a near-mint playset of her and she's so dominant.

[@budah155]

@@mattblom3990 I usually don't either and that's the only commander I own that's not a precon

[@eliaswolter2955]

Hey Nizzahon, great Video. I'd love to see one "honorble mention" (a card that recently fell of the list or a card that represents the cards of the video very well for example raging goblin for a top 10 goblins list or serra angel for this list) and also one "on the rise" pick (a card that was just recently printed or just began to be played in a new way, but didn't quite make the list). I know its a lot of work but it would be great.

[@hobrev]

I thought Angel of Invention would make it, that card was pretty broken in standard. I guess that shows how many super powerful angels there have been over the years

[@jakeapplegate6642]

hobrev the standard of that time was crazy out of control.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Angel of Invention has 13 points.

[@Graatand]

I was surprised at no Iona.

[@balintkiraly6187]

Where are Sephara sky blade and Avacyn angel of hope in the list?

[@NizzahonMagic]

@@balintkiraly6187 Both have 0 points.

[@taylorolson6228]

Would love a new "Top ten flavorful cards"

[@Dragonborne223]

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[@Dragonborne223]

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[@GrendelNin]

Akroma did not make the list? That actually surprised me.

[@jacobtietjen2099]

Angels are probably my second favorite tribe in MTG, next to Dragons.

[@mattblom3990]

Angels could have more potential but there's just so many dragons in MTG history.

[@dreamwriter8423]

Same here, which is why kaalia is my favorite commander of all time.

[@danielvanderklift5802]

Nah man, it's beebles all the way

[@cutecommie]

Thanks for telling us. We promise that you'll see some cool angels and dragons this year ;)

[@SliderFury1]

Angels are honestly my number 1. They're definitely not anywhere near the most powerful (though they did get a much needed boost with Lyra) but I just love the lore and artwork so much.

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

This video's notification came to me, like an Angel from God telling me what I must do. And I must suggest "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)".

[@rainbowdragon6665]

It's true, you realy are here straight away

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

@@rainbowdragon6665 Nizzahon's uploads happen around 4PM here. So yeah, I am here right away.

[@wombatrepellant9809]

1 AM gang

[@nickbalmes6640]

1 PM where I'm at :)

[@cutecommie]

I'm glad you're still here.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

I love the art for pretty much all angels

[@Garl_Vinland]

Which art?

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

@@Garl_Vinland Any of them, but the original classic from Alpha I think is still my favorite

[@NicolasClark7732]

Seeing Lyra Dawnbringer sure made me nostalgic for when I played her in standard. While she wasn't in the decks I've had the most fun playing (those would likely be Delirium, Waste Not and a 5 color dragons deck), I definitely enjoyed playing her, then playing her along with Resplendent Angel and other life gaining cards. Healers Hawk becoming one of my favorite one drops as a result of the deck, too. Similar to Sacred Cat.

[@Hitmonchampion]

Was honestly expecting to see Geist of Saint Traft here

[@marpj6138]

He should be at least 3rd place actually. At the Top 10 Azorius (december 2018) he has 71 points, its probable that he did not get any point since but still enough for 3rd place

[@stuflames4769]

It's cool that Restoration Angel is so successful. She's just so... angelic. Pure Divine intervention.

[@Garl_Vinland]

I always hated how she couldn’t save other angels, restricting you to playing hibrid tribes

[@stuflames4769]

@@Garl_Vinland I think she'd just be too easy to go infinite with or otherwise break the game, on a creature that's already efficient and good.

[@Garl_Vinland]

@@stuflames4769 Just say other creatures not named Restoration Angel

[@Blackjackman123abc]

With the token clause, I thought Geist of saint traft might have been on here

[@eliaswolter2955]

Yes i'd think so too

[@Ninjamanhammer]

Curious about how many points he has.

[@tonythepokemonguy751]

Astral Slide decks bring back so many memories

[@StalwartShinobi]

My fave white card is an old maiden one, cant remember name but give you life everytime a creature enters the field

[@ShiivaWilding]

That infinite combo to close out the list must have been so satisfying to pull off on turn five, good lord!

[@JalebJay]

Pretty sure Kiki-pod was doing it on turn 4 pretty easily if there wasn't a response from the opponent. T1: Birds Of Paradise T2: Wall of Roots, + some other 2 drop T3: 3 mana pod, 1 mana sack wall of roots get exarch untap pod, 1 mana sack other 2 drop get kitchen finks. T4: 1 mana sack finks, get resto, flicker exarch, untap pod, 1 mana sack birds, get phantasmal image, copy resto, flicker exarch, untap pod, 1 mana sack phantasmal copy get kiki jiki.

[@eliaswolter2955]

Spike feeder + Archangel of thune is turn 5 as well

[@jish55]

I LOVE Lyra and use her in my main historic arena g/w angels deck (thanks to the addition of Shelai and Resplendent Angel, along with things like Blossoming Defence and Prowling Serpopard, there's a lot of ways to not only keep my angels around, but explode the field when I drop my third Resplendent and keep swinging with Lyra and the 4/4 (5/5 with Lyra) angel tokens who now have vigilence and lifelink).

[@Mickhealthy]

Thanks Nizza for all your effort in creating these videos! You're a really awesome guy :-D

[@Don_Roberts]

Love Angels, awesome! Can we get Top 10 Oozes next?

[@raydelmartinez2905]

Great list, I have a few on these on different commander decks.

[@EidoEndy]

Linvala, the Preserver is a surprise to me, didn't realize that one would even rank. The others I mostly expected.

[@MisterLovahLovah]

Just pointing it out, Lyra was played in the sideboard of Jeskai and later Esper control more than anywhere else, as answer to aggro.

[@legocityhey9697]

yaaaaaay published on my birthday!!!!thanks for the present

[@StalwartShinobi]

My pure white deck is a decent angel deck and im still working in blue sphynx deck! I think angels are the coolest cards to play

[@valentinoreid9253]

Wizards needs to make more cards like Angelic Overseer but pair it with Clerics so I can finally build an Angelic edh deck

[@faerie7dragon]

Lyra has such a simple yet righteous flavour text.

[@movezig5]

The definition of "iconic" as Wizards of the Coast uses it was why so many players felt disappointed in the set "Iconic Masters." WotC was using the term to refer to creature types, not realizing that most players didn't know this definition. Players were confused and disappointed because cards that they considered "iconic" weren't in the set.

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

Well, that and the fact that Iconic Masters was dogshit by those standards. Dragon tribal was a fully supported theme and Angels and Demons got off alright, but fuck you if you like Sphinxes and Hydras because there's only three of them and none at common. No common Demons either.

[@SOLtoo]

10. Angel of Serenity 9. Exalted Angel 8. Sigarda, Host of Herons 7. Linvala, the Preserver 6. Entreat the Angels 5. Lyra Dawnbringer 4. Linvala, Keeper of Silence 3. Baneslayer Angel 2. Archangel Avacyn 1. Restoration Angel

[@creakwoodliege5239]

Entreat the angles works really good in comander

[@akshin1556]

The Serra Angel didn't make the cut? Wow, things have really changed since I played Magic : The Gathering in college ...

[@sebastianbate7835]

How many points did akroma get? I remember she being played in standard and vintage at some point

[@Tannhauser42]

Serra Angel will always be #1 to me.

[@maxheath1158]

can't beat the og

[@Zaknyfein]

Thank you for another great Top 10!

[@therealkami]

I'm surprised that Akroma, Angel of Wrath and Decree of Justice didn't make the list.

[@atlys258]

Archangel Avacyn is hilarious when you can add Deathtouch and Lifelink.. my old playgroup would regularly play large multiplayer games usually around 5-8 of us in a single game. I threw her into an Abzan-Red mid-range list that ran the Bow, Hammer, and Whip with big ETB/LTB creatures to sac to Mercy Killing and Zhur-Taa Druids for ramp and tons of life gain. I remember one game getting her down with Bow, Hammer, and Whip already on the field and dropping Spark Trooper next turn and getting to swing both uncontested with Boros Charm which I then sacced to Mercy Killin with another Boros Charm in hand for indestructible during next upkeep.. it was disgusting and hilarious wiping the board and gaining 100+ life and the only creatures on board. I didn't even care that I was public enemy #1 after that 🤣😂🤣😂

[@LazarusIsBackBaby]

As a Bant Angels player in Historic, I'm shocked that neither Righteous Valkyrie nor Resplendant Angel made the list. I guess it goes to show how extremely different the formats are.

[@timwhite2680]

Valkyrie Harbinger is pretty awesome too

[@inujosha]

I would have thought Akroma would have made the list.

[@carnibucle]

I thought he already made a top ten angels before guess not

[@sephimaru2198]

Comparing this to your other "MTG Top 10: Angels" from 3 years ago: (spoilers) Akroma is not number 10 anymore. Angel of Serenty took the spot, who was number seven 3 years ago. Exalted Angel meanwhile went up the list. It wasn't even on the list before, now it is up to number 9, squeezed into the spot between Serenity and Sigarda. Cool to see that Sigarda managed to score some more top 8s over the years. Baneslayer surpassing Linvala is also a surprise. A lot of Modern top 8s. The top 2 are still the same, not much of a surprise. Also neat that Avacyn got that one top 8 in Modern (10:57).

[@assault410]

man angels sure have some cool cards

[@marvthereddevil5418]

A heavenly list from Doc Victory :)

[@paullatimer9249]

Where does Serra Angel fall in terms of numbers?

[@NizzahonMagic]

It has 6 points.

[@paullatimer9249]

@@NizzahonMagic That is shockingly low!

[@FlawlessRhythmGG]

A Top 10 Counters video would be cool. But not counter magic, just cards that get counters or give out counters. Not only will it be a troll title (since counter magic is pretty trolly) but a fun video.

[@AidanWR]

Angel of Serenity is more like a Journey to Nowhere because Oblivion Ring is any permanents, but people don't really know as much about Journey to Nowhere

[@forgottonpast6847]

You can get around hexproof with cards like detection tower.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Sure can

[@about99ninjas56]

No way..... a card game printed cards that neutralizes other cards? Never would have guessed.

[@sleprvrru6y-lin-92]

Top 10 three key word cards next? I feel like most monsters with 3 keywords are rather powerful in some sort of way

[@realitant]

Do you only award points based on if the card appeared in the deck (ie 1 ofs score the same as 4 ofs). I was surprised to see that Entreat the Angels only got 2 points from block, despite it being a 4 of in Alexander Hayne's PT winning deck

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yep the same number of points regardless of number.

[@shadowofseattle1338]

Top ten infinite combos please

[@gisone6403]

What about avycn, angel of hope?

[@ryancory5958]

sacrifice angel of serenity (#10) before her etb is resolved and the 2nd effect will not occur..they wont get their stuff back because it hasnt been removed yet

[@whitaker2452]

Do a vid on top ten demons revisef

[@tastymelon]

With angel of serenity, couldn't you do the thing where you somehow kill her off before her etb resolves permanently exiling them?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yup

[@D3m0n7x]

i was hoping to see old bae akroma round here =(

[@narwhaleman2957]

I am lucky enough to have 2 Linvala, Keeper of Silence cards

[@xxANBUxx]

Guessing Restoration at 1.

[@jakepetruolo1847]

I'd love to see top ten demons, I run a black legacy demon deck with lake of the dead to ramp and cheat the big guys out faster

[@NizzahonMagic]

It will happen in the near future.

[@nicholasmays4257]

top 10 marine arthropods next please

[@braxsensindelar1910]

I was literally just today thinking of building an angels EDH deck. Coincidence? I think not!

[@stuflames4769]

That is actually an example of precisely what a coincidence is.

[@MrOhyeah23]

Whats the 0,01% of times Exalted angels gain life effect works differently?

[@Lovuschka]

You can still give it lifelink WITHOUT redundancy, that is the difference. (So if you give it lifelink and it deals damage, you get life from his ability and then again from lifelink - Of course, you can enchant multiple Spirit Link or Vampiric Link also to gain even more life, but not more than one lifelink.) I am not sure if you'd gain life if the angel deals damage while it isn't on the battlefield (lifelink does). Rule 702.15d The lifelink rules function no matter what zone an object with lifelink deals damage from. Rule 702.15f Multiple instances of lifelink on the same object are redundant. Also note that the ability is a triggered ability, while lifelink is not. That means that the lifegain can be prevented by countering the ability even after damage was dealt. This also means that you can lose due to being reduced to 0 or less life before the ability resolves, whereas you'd gain the life from lifelink at the same time as damage is dealt.

[@andresperez7476]

Blinding angel 🐚🐏🐐

[@randomguy6680]

Really thought geist of saint Traft would make the list.

[@crooker23]

its a spirit, not an angel, right?

[@randomguy6680]

@@crooker23 Yes, but it creates angel tokens. This makes it eligible to this list.

[@crooker23]

@@randomguy6680 oh, gotcha! my b

[@Ninjamanhammer]

I think Nizzahon forgot.

[@randomguy6680]

Going back to the spirits top 10, it had 70 points. The methodology might have changed but it looks more like he forgot. Oh well, its probably not surprising with the number of cards in the game.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

I'm wondering where my girl Feather is...especially since her ability would make an American Charms deck OP, or even broken.

[@pietroklausner8957]

Excuse me, how is exalted angel’s ability different from lifegain?

[@peewee130946]

Pietro Klausner because it’s actually a trigger so it uses the stack also if you give her lifelink you’ll double the amount of life you gain

[@alaraplatt8104]

weird that the autocaptions know to capitalize Wizards

[@peewee130946]

Wait how did giest not make the list

[@peewee130946]

Wait what creature type do people say is more iconic than angels in white????

[@josephdevita2938]

I love Angels I have a naya angel deck and my friends hate it lol

[@SSEasygoing]

Hello nizza! New sub. Love these vids!

[@Gurtington]

Video starts at 1:46.

[@TheUbiouS]

I am a huge Angeles fan, I have 80% of this list and quite upset about it...

[@PokeBattlerJaze]

It has got to be Resto angel, like what else could it possibly be? Edit: I mean like yeah? Duh

[@christin_the_ruiner741]

I do miss the time that I was cheating Akroma, Angel of Wrath into the battlefield, using wild mongrel to discard her and next turn reanimating her with breath of life. Good times...

[@ΜανοςΣνουηλ]

Before seeing it. If acroma is not here it's not fair

[@kartoffelnpommesgut]

I'm surprised Ions did not make the top

[@doormatt72]

i'm so sad they haven't made angels in the past few editions. my kaalia play set is just waiting.

[@NizzahonMagic]

What do you mean? Every set has angels

[@doormatt72]

@@NizzahonMagic i'm pretty sure neither theros beyond death nor throne of eldraine had any. did they? i'm pretty sure not?

[@NizzahonMagic]

@@doormatt72 Wow, you're right. How odd. Eldraine should definitely have one, since the set is so heavily influenced by medieval folklore. Theros not having them makes sense I suppose.

[@doormatt72]

@@NizzahonMagic i thought it was very odd to have 2 editions in a row without angels. and also felt the same about eldraine not having any.

[@about99ninjas56]

They rotate creature types similarly to game mechanics, so that other types can shine and it's not repetitive.

[@atraxian5881]

Nice. Like for many others, Angels are my favourite tribe and this is a nice treat in thse dark times. Yet I can't shake the feeling that including in the list cards that have pretty much seen only standard play and hardly anything else is skewing the list a little. I mean, if a card was broken enough for standard that saw play virtually in every deck that could run it but virtually no play in any other formats (Eg. Angel of Serenity, Linvala the Preserver or Archangel Avacyn) can they really be called "top"? EDIT: would adding more points for eternal formats tournaments instead of giving them the same amount as rotating formats change things? Probably not, but personally would feel a little fairer of a scoring system.

[@eliaswolter2955]

Yes i feel so too

[@BepisBoi69]

Angels? Pog

[@Schattenbaroee]

Archangel of Thune?

[@rverdict9013]

I play a pretty sick Angel deck

[@corey2232]

Before watching, I'm guessing Restoration Angel is #1 or #2. Let's see....

[@Lomiauz]

I love angels in Magic but could you revisit faeries too please? Great videos btw.

[@lyrathemuse]

the way you say my name brings me ungodly rage lie, not lee lee is Lira

[@brendan8114]

Its Lee, her name is based off of the word lyric, as in for a song

[@lyrathemuse]

@@brendan8114 it's Lie/Lye based off the word Lyre, a musical instrument

[@blaze556922]

Archangel of thune!?

[@eliaswolter2955]

Y

[@colinfun]

How does Serra Angel not make the list? Is his methodology flawed in that it does not count the first 1/2 of MTG or something? I know it was in countless competitive white decks when I was playing in the 90s.

[@NizzahonMagic]

It has only a handful of Top 8s, so it doesn't make the list. She wasn't really relevant past 1995.

[@colinfun]

@@NizzahonMagic That shocks me since my high school had 2 people who were making it to national level competitions and one of them always had Serra in his white decks, where are the lists that you use?

[@colinfun]

I mean following your logic, since there was only 2 WC, 0 Pro tours, and 0 grand prix before the start of 1996, so you don't feel there was any valid competitive play in the first few years?

[@NizzahonMagic]

@@colinfun Sanctioned competitive play began in 1994 with a World Championship. There was also one in 1995. The Pro Tour began in 1996. I count those two Worlds as "Pro Tours." Between those early events, she has 3 top 8s. I was a bit wrong with the year - her last one came in 1996. But yeah. I don't know when you were in high school or what national tournaments you're talking about but those are the ones that we have the actual deck lists for. Generally "Nationals" is not the same level event as a Pro Tour, either. Though I suppose I could count them as GPs.

[@colinfun]

​@@NizzahonMagic Literally none of those details disagrees with what I said since I am aware of all of them, so I am not sure why you would phrase them as facts against me. My main point in that second post was how there was fewer of the competitive tournaments that you count early on (as you would expect given it was an unknown fiscally), so it just seems like you could be disproportionately including newer cards at a higher rate. I do concede that you would be hindered by a lack of deck lists which was likely to occur early on given who would have thought 28 years later people would be tracking that stuff!

[@toastghost9145]

It's too early for it to be Wednesday...

[@Pedun42]

Nizzahon uploads at 12:00 AM CST

[@cspeeds96]

Wooooo

[@kairenault]

Please do a TOP 10 DEMONS.

[@NizzahonMagic]

I will get there one day

[@recycletoad]

Who came here after seeing the MTGOLDFish angel list?

[@gscd2881]

I hate that Exalted Angel doesn’t have Exalted.

[@Mandolorian1001]

Lie-ra* is the correct pronunciation

[@zachriku]

I'm surprised that akroma and serra angel didn't get at least a honorable mention

[@Ninjamanhammer]

You forgot Geist of Saint Traft.

[@cinderstar6634]

Top 10 sponges?

[@panzerfaust8878]

WHERE IS SHALAI AND SEPHARA!!!

[@NizzahonMagic]

Sephara has 0 points. Shalai has 6.

[@Wren-cs3ty]

I do love these videos, but I feel like they are kind of unfairly weighted towards cards that came out during the "boom standard" era of OGW - Ahmonket onward, just because there was so much more standard played and the format was so comparatively closed. 5 mana Avacyn beating out baneslayer and Linvala2 being on this list at all while Iona's nowhere to be seen just feels... wrong, somehow.

[@robertsunderman9534]

Linvala at least has a bunch of modern points, so I dont feel too bad about that one.

[@dangil125]

Top ten demons

[@dawnknightx]

I have a deck in MTG: Arena that uses bishop of wings and divine visitation to create an immortal angel army.

[@eliaswolter2955]

Yes with woe strider from theros you also get a free sacrifice outlet

[@mint-n-chip3113]

He should redo angels now that Kaldhiem is out

[@NizzahonMagic]

It hasn't even been a year, so there isn't a reason to yet.

[@mint-n-chip3113]

@@NizzahonMagic oh that makes sense