Fall Out Boy on ‘M A N IA’ and their evolution from pop punk

We chat to the legendary pop punkers about their eclectic sound and new album ‘M A N I A’, before taking questions from their legion of fans. This video was originally broadcast as a Facebook Live.
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[@edgelord7646]

Everyone else has like tattoos with like symbols and meanings but Patrick is looking like a sweet British newspaper boy

[@qwerty-ne6bl]

Ag h yes

[@BauhausBarbie]

I snorted

[@destiny6027]

LMAO

[@Amoreenaofficial]

PATRICK OUT HERE LOOKING LIKE A GIFT TO HUMANITY.

[@AltFreak25]

When they mentioned "old" fans, all I thought was this is so me. When I told Pete that I had been listening to FOB for twelve years now when I finally met him, his face was priceless. I also explained that the FOB shirt that I was wearing was from Honda Civic Tour...a decade earlier.

[@Melanie-wy6eg]

pETE SCENTZ THE NEW FRAGRANCE BY PETE WENTz

[@WrenRemm]

Brendon!AtTheForehead The Yeemos are everywhere

[@Melanie-wy6eg]

Naomi Yu Hell yee

[@gravxyardbby]

The meeeeeme😂😂😂

[@junohenderson9802]

eau de résistance by pete wentz

[@Melanie-wy6eg]

Takane Entomoto oh Yeesus, cOINCIDENCE?? I DON'T THINK SO

[@ellamaisie7217]

I love Andy he just sits there drinks coffee, coughs, yawns, just sits there and almost doesn't pay attention Exxx

[@user-hk7hz9cn7v]

He’s just cashing checks at this point. I’m not surprised, they’re a frail shell of what they used to be

[@phiyuh]

@@user-hk7hz9cn7v you pathetic, fam

[@stephenplante2273]

Thats cuz he knows everyone just wants to hear from patrick and wentz.

[@erlineandrews]

People have to remember that Take This To Your Grave was written when Patrick Stump - the main songwriter - was around 18. The band itself was formed when he was 16 or 17. My thinking is that Fall Out Boy's sound changed as Patrick himself changed as a person, songwriter and singer. It's to be expected. He developed a taste for soul and R&B. You heard it in his solo record and you clearly hear it in Mania.

[@Purplepentapus_]

pal, patrick is not the writer. pete wrote all of the music pre hiatus and is still the primary writer although they now all contribute. learn ya shit, boi

[@erlineandrews]

Patrick is the primary songwriter. Pete writes the lyrics. Lyrics are important of course but I don't call it the main part of songwriting.

[@mandy347]

This is true for all four of them - each has grown up, matured, taking on new roles in life (like fatherhood), etc. So yes, it makes perfect sense. They've also changed in how much of each song each member contributes, and I think that ratio continues to shift by song/album/personal preference/etc.

[@erlineandrews]

You think if Andy and Joe had equal influence in the band they'd be making the kind of music they're making now?

[@mandy347]

Interesting question since we know all four have much different personal tastes in music. From the interviews I've watched, which is a scary amount, it seems that Andy and Joe have always had influence and control, especially over their individual roles, but they have a ton more influence and control now than they did before the hiatus. For example, Patrick mentions in one interview - sorry I can't remember which - that one of the things he had to change about himself as he matured into FOB 2.0 was taking his hands off a song more and not dominating it, which set Joe up to take more control over the writing process. In another interview, I know they spoke about how I believe it was Pete suggested right at the very beginning that all four should get paid the same for their work instead of the industry standard of different pay for different roles. Patrick also mentions in a different interview how he feels - I think it was Jet Pack Blues, I know it's on AB/AP - that song is a perfect blend of the four, and AB/AP is very different from their original work, even if it's not as 'out there' as Mania seems to be. Joe has commented more than once that you can't pretend new styles of music don't exist and that you either grow and change, or you get left behind. So all this suggests to me that Andy and Joe do have their share of musical input and are invested in what FOB is doing now, and for me, I don't see a reason not to believe it. No one is limited to just one genre, either in what they produce or enjoy, and we know they are diverse and love experimenting - experimenting is what they've been doing all along.

[@courtney-kz4qi]

Pete's like " dude did you even listen to the record ? " when he gets the song name wrong .

[@nottsurewhattomakemyusername]

im dying at andy this whole video hes just chillin with his coffee and when he tries to put it behind the couch and it makes a noise he looks all awkward lmaoo

[@kreepypoptart3217]

first name I didn’t even notice till I watched it. Right after Patrick cracks his fingers. Lol

[@aimelle3]

Interviewer: So this a departure from the pop-punk sound that a lot of people still associate with Fall Out Boy. Joe: I wonder why they still associate us with that!? No matter how many records away from that sound we are... NME: .*describes the band as 'pop punkers' in the video description regardless*. That's why, Joe. That's why.

[@jettb7010]

I was kinda disappointed that no one said stay frosty royal milk tea for their favourite song

[@Purplepentapus_]

because why tf would they?? what kind of cobbled together song name even is that? Save rock and roll and american beauty/american psycho still had at least semi-poetic titles, that's just a shitpost name they plucked off of reddit for all I could imagine

[@mandy347]

"because why tf would they?? what kind of cobbled together song name even is that?" You can say this about a LOT of their past song titles, dating way back to the beginning! :)

[@markong6191]

Purplepentapus wdym? *Homesick from Space Camp *Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on A Bad Bet *I Slept With Someone In Fall Out Boy and All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me Before I Go On, I Like Those Songs, No Hate. What's wrong with Stay Frosty Royal Milk Tea? I think YOU are a shitoost name plucked off a sub-reddit post

[@ilikedogs1504]

Purplepentapus157 bro have you even seen their last song titles? they are literally sentences.

[@MicahEspino1409]

Stay Frosty Royal Milktea is my fave song from Mania.

[@twentyonefallingchemicalbo6601]

PETE SENTZ OML, thank you Also, Andy is so quiet but I'm not really in the position to tell him to talk.

[@jesuschrist03]

Pete scentz

[@susannajtanane]

Did anyone see Patrick fucking BREAK HIS HANDS at 5:03

[@HarlequinHeart16]

Susanna 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@spideypool5857]

ew ew ew omg

[@biancarossi3603]

I loved it, cause I do it all the time 😂

[@sarad3600]

i do this all the time my friends hate me for it XD

[@abbiejeffries7510]

Susanna 🤣 🤣

[@EW_CP]

I reallyyy want that sweatshirt pete is wearing

[@veroniquel5522]

Same!

[@livkelly2472]

I just wanted to hug Andy and Joe, they look so sad and bored :(

[@Ayen__]

The only ONLY fob song I’ve ever somewhat disliked is “the last of the real ones”. Every other song of theirs I’ve heard (a lot) I absolutely love, even Soul Punk and others that Patrick made. I can’t imagine hating on anything that they’ve made and it makes me sad to see everyone thinking that this is their last album... Edit: I hardly knew the Last of The Real Ones when I commented this and after listening to it a lot I actually love the song now lol

[@jesuschrist03]

Same happened to me when i first heard This Ain't A Scene

[@aerickajm9298]

Same to when I listened to 7 minutes. It's my anthem now

[@slightly4374]

interviewer: "now your seventh album mania is out... next friday?" patrick: *checks watch*

[@MariaDanieladelaRosa]

Aw... I adore patrick, he is so sweet!!

[@lokilaufeyson6421]

I agree with some people on here, they seem uncomfortable and it has to be because they know that the feedback is going to be somewhat awful. I feel so bad for them, they shouldn’t feel anxious to put something out that they like because people will call them sellouts.

[@thomasleongeorgerobertglad7560]

Look what happened to Folie that album when released was... No one got it at the time (I remember growing up being mocked for liking it and seeing it as the masterpiece it is) now it's seen as their greatest and most ambitious album to this day

[@alison2987]

Everytime FOB does something I see the same type of comment "I don’t like pop" "They sound mainstream" People miss so much Pop punk go listen to Neck Deep They’ve been doing the same thing for 8 years, leave me alone

[@victorialopez4943]

5:02 the sound of patrick's hands

[@kreepypoptart3217]

Victoria López sounds like my fingers. Haha I didn’t even notice that but I do the same thing.

[@bappo218]

asmr

[@spookywolf6008]

OH MY GOD

[@michaelbeers5064]

That was hellacious

[@haleigh6089]

*PETE SCENTZ* FRANK YOU HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED

[@foullily8325]

It's sad when people get 'stuck' in a genre, so when the band changes genres to keep up with the industry, and to keep themselves relevant and interesting, a lot of people get upset, because its different. Some bands can keep their sound, or genre, but even then almost everyone now-a-days mixes it up to fit their ever-changing opinions, and likely so they don't start getting "boring." I know one band that I used to listen to, and still kinda do, where their music, almost every single one, is the same sound. Some are slower, or faster, but they sound the same, and I just got bored :/ When bands like say FOB, or P!ATD change it up every album, it makes it interesting, fun and new, but not everyone can see it that way sadly. I do however LOVE all the songs so far, cant wait to hear the rest of them x3

[@borismarkov3586]

I agree, up you go for the world to see this

[@mandy347]

I would hesitate to say sad, because to each their own, but I do encourage folks to be open minded and try new styles and sounds. I grew up listening to the Beatles, for instance - put A Hard Day's Night next to Revolver next to Yellow Submarine, and they don't even sound like the same band, let alone the same decade. But they experimented and changed over time, and I see the same growth in FOB. Great bands don't keep putting out the same stuff over and over and over.

[@Jaymustdieee]

Same its a shame who people cant adapt to change.

[@dominiquegomez3071]

Foul Lily What about the people who accept change but just don't think the quality of the songs is good? I bet a huge amount of people who listen to FOB listen to Paramore too, and the response to them has been overwhelmingly positive because their new songs are amazing. It's about quality, not style, and on MANIA it's just lacking.

[@foullily8325]

I guess when it comes down to that, it's also what you are willing to listen to. I personally think it's great, I dont see a lack of quality in the album, but then that might just be me ^^ I certainly did not mean to make it feel like everyone that didn't like the album thought this way, it was merely that majority of the responses Ive seen towards the album are because of this reluctance to accept change.

[@neikosan1664]

Andy Hurley has the ability to kick everyone's ass in this interview not that he would but he totally could single handedly and he speaks so softly lol.

[@taylorcalvert5488]

4:00 andy was staring into my soul

[@claddagh1826]

as sad as i am that my questions were not asked, this was a good interview. the interviewer did not make it awkward or creepy at all. having written that, there i do not really understand why joe and andy continue to go to interviews when they always look miserable.

[@mandy347]

They are still part of the band, so it makes sense to have them all when possible. I wonder, though, if Andy really just doesn't like talking much, and if Joe is similar. Some people are just naturally more quiet, especially in public, and I imagine being on camera can make it more obvious.

[@thomasleongeorgerobertglad7560]

​@@mandy347 Joe is actually really social depending on if he's in a good mood, if he's not he's kinda like he is in this interview kinda quiet, not talking, disinterested, I think he did drop a hint that he had far less interest in this album when he admitted he didn't even know the names of the songs on the album, of course knowing what we know now that he wasn't happy working on Mania as such that makes sense, Andy is kind of a "sage" as Patrick calls him, Andy only speaks if he thinks it's super important or if everyone in the room is going to laugh, he also has social anxiety and it comes out more in group interviews so he really stays quiet in those

[@polarizedtyler]

Replying to this YEARS later but since Joe’s book (that I’ve read,) here I can only say it may be because he wasn’t the biggest fan of (he didn’t like the outcome) of Mania… there’s more on this, but maybe that’s why!

[@alex-vd4vm]

the moment patrick cracked his fingers IT MADE ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE

[@kreepypoptart3217]

uriesgalaxy I didn’t notice til it was pointed out. I do the same thing but sheesh what a crack. Lol

[@blueisamoonchild8062]

Andy and Joe are suffering oh my god, LET THEM SPEAK

[@mandy347]

I never got the impression Andy *wanted* to speak much, at least on camera, and to a lesser extent Joe. Both of them, though, have become more vocal more in recent years.

[@daroachdoggjr1069]

Joe is like 36 but he looks 26 in this vid

[@coin3720]

LG Savage or 16

[@pinkparallax]

Omg the titles sound awesome im soo excited for mania dammit

[@bubebicim]

Blanche Chevron

[@amazingamandareelztalk]

When Pete was talking about his older fans who are like I’ll stand back and just enjoy a drink and watch them from here - me that was me a few weeks ago in Cincy - I’m almost 40, my knees aren’t what they used to be from all the jumping in mosh pits in my 20s so I’m just gonna hang back and chill and listen to my boys 😂😅❤

[@rachesplana]

joe not knowing the names of their own songs is such a mood

[@theshamanofenterprise7408]

pete listens to metallica I have a newfound respect for him.

[@jonathanpelletier4910]

anonymous commenter they were all part of the Chicago hardcore scene before FOB so it’s not too surprising

[@theshamanofenterprise7408]

Jonathan Pelletier it's suprising to me.

[@Milesrgomez]

It's amazing how they are so poppy now lol

[@maddiedoes3571]

Are Joe and Andy okay? Like Andy looks like he's trying to be attentive and is just having a hard time keeping his head up, but Joe just looks... done? It's like he doesn't want to be there. Pete's not looking too hot either, he looks _exhausted_. Patrick looks like he's carrying the band on his back during this interview. Maybe it's just because he's the youngest, I don't know. They don't look very good, they seem so... tired. Maybe it's jetlag, but they aren't looking like a team, more like four different people who were thrown into a room and told "be entertaining, I don't care how tired you are, you need to be entertaining".

[@ArtemisMoon12]

Joe's actually the youngest, by like a few months. But yeah, Patrick's all smiles and not in a good way.... they all do seem really off. Generally Andy and Joe are pretty sedate people but as people are pointing out it's not a happy vibe. I mean honestly they all probably just miss their wives/girlfriends, and like, between Pete, Joe, and Patrick there are five kids who they probably haven't been able to see as much as they'd like... I hope they're all okay. If they need to take some time, like, I can't speak for everyone but I would rather they all remain friends and not a band, than a band who hates what they do.

[@maddiedoes3571]

ArtemisMoon12 thanks for the correction, I'll fix my comment later. What you're saying makes a lot of sense, actually.

[@amrys19]

Uhh this also, the day before they just got to the place and then preformed sontheyre probably really tired and jet lagged

[@julianmoritz7312]

jet lag

[@BellatrixisaStar]

In another interview from the same day they said their show the previous night was kinda exhausting and they had to wake up early for a day of interviews, and Patrick said he had had a lot of coffee, so that's probably what we're seeing here

[@joenix30]

I absolutely LOVE heaven’s gate. It’s literally can change me from livid to the happiness person in the world just from the first verse. I love Patrick’s voice so much! I’m 27 and have been listening to FOB since I was 12!

[@coleswafford6967]

Andy sittin there like "why am I here?" We love you, Andy !

[@Timesviolet]

*Patrick's getting a lil chubby, again.* I'm fine with that.

[@JJ4EVER9232011]

Milk Tea Me Too

[@d0gbreath]

HES SO FREAKING CUTE, AM I RIGHT?

[@i_zip_tied_my_penis_to_a_b264]

honestly same

[@qwerty-ne6bl]

If somebody asks me how fat that I could be classified by I would just say Pre hiatus Patrick Stump

[@fireballl889]

that knuckle crack 😂 5:03

[@chubbycheeks12397]

My fave song off Mania is Wilson (Expensive Mistakes) and Stay Frosty Royal Milk Tea. They really did good on this album!

[@nishapatel-vu9lm]

For some reason they all seem so uncomfy and forced. I don't think it's the interviewers fault. I'm dreading the feedback from the album.

[@sockfish123]

Nisha Patel neither the band or the interviewer wanted to be there tbh he was so uniformed about the band.

[@AlleyCatAlex]

Patrick why did you get rid of your hats:(((

[@paulinaalejandro6086]

GREAT BAND BEFORE AND NOW! THANK YOU A LOT GUYS 💜

[@Cickan1999]

Joe and Andy at 0:57

[@slightly4374]

2:19 patricks eye twitches are adorable

[@maaatrosykajsjkia6489]

andy sippin coffee is my new aesthetic

[@ellanieddu8604]

5:03 uggghhhh that sound ❄❄❄❄❄❄❄

[@BauhausBarbie]

Joe has me crying he’s so beautiful

[@alexconn2675]

Everyone except Pete looks like they are back from 2006

[@charlieorr2875]

"It's just murder"

[@hobisprite4046]

Andy is me when the teacher calls on me to answer something. he is so cute. he was like "hold up....are you talking to me, Pete?"

[@maeveway6176]

I'm so happy I caught this live it was amazing

[@natalie_mer]

You now... like... umm... uhhhh... yeah... I frikin' love FOB

[@JosephDaWeeb]

I CANT STOP STARING AT JOE❤😍😍😍😍 he’s tooo beautiful 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@i_zip_tied_my_penis_to_a_b264]

5:02 patrick..that sounded like you broke your fingers

[@jarhead98gaming]

I want to know if they miss playing pop-punk music? I mean i know Patrick and Joe does, Andy is more metal but does the band as a whole miss playing pop-punk? I know most of the poo stiff is coming from Pete but.......

[@jarhead98gaming]

Pop not poo LMAO

[@bleachisgoodforurhealth9946]

Jarred Parsons probably but it doesn't sell anymore and they need to stay relevant especially since they are with a big label

[@jarhead98gaming]

Bleach is Good for ur health there are still some pop-punk bands that still sell and are somewhat relevant like Neck Deep, State Champs, Green Days new album, Real Friends,etc. I'm sure that they could still play pop-punk and stay relevant, if they wanted to though. I still support fall out boy even if I can don't like their newer music but it would be great if they stayed relevant and played music I like

[@redherring74]

I think they want to experiment with different genres and just have fun testing new stuff... they all have different taste and I think they are trying to create something different from anything else. And they normally have one or two songs on their newer albums that are kinda like modern versions of their old pop punk sound

[@gravxyardbby]

Pete scentz "remember me for scenturies"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@taylorcalvert5488]

0:33 patrick cross your legs ur not part of the group

[@LongLifeToFallOutBoy]

EXCELENTES ALBUMS !! VERSÁTILES OMG! BANDA PERFECTA 👏✊

[@thomasleongeorgerobertglad7560]

Someone needs to get Patrick more hats (I miss his flatcap phase from Infinity/Folie era)

[@metalhardpunk182]

I tried, but can't get into it. Take this to your grave will always be my favorite and best FOB album Imo. I like that pop punk sound they had.

[@teamcynda6202]

I freaking love mania. Strangely enough I prefer mania over take this to your grave.

[@hannahrose5546]

I feel like Mania is kind of awkward in terms of the new style FOB is experimenting with. It isn’t bad, but I feel like it hasn’t gone anywhere yet and the band needs to grow into their new sound a bit more.

[@James-qs5qk]

0:57 joe and andy are like "did you hear that"

[@frooggy]

Pete sais “like” a whole lot i just noticed, gotta love him for it though

[@ethanjones8115]

Definitely wouldn't get along with my history teacher for it though lol

[@corgi8918]

they're such cuties dsvsvvsvsv

[@Joey-yo8mw]

found you lol

[@corgi8918]

Joey ohmygod we've extended this beyond Instagram

[@AlleyCatAlex]

Declan L. Ikr

[@moss9677]

Get more comfortable chairs, and offer them tea or cookies. They’ll enjoy themselves more, and the content will be better

[@spookyderp]

5:03 Patrick’s hands 😂

[@Noneofthis-qx8dr]

ELLOS TUVIERON UNA GRANDIOSA Y MARAVILLOSA EVOLUCIÓN 👏 ¡ELLOS SON ADMIRABLES !

[@destiny6027]

Jesus joe and Andy didn’t let anyone get a word in!

[@amy4094]

The best band ever!

[@JosephDaWeeb]

I agree!!

[@aidenw4223]

andy looks so good and ANDY PLS TALK

[@Amber_xo_133]

Pete Wentz: Like Billie Joe Armstrong: Comment

[@amiraberdouk3897]

I miss Joe's fro. I think Andy does too cos the way he just stared at Joe's fro-less hair at 5:20 makes me just wanna hug him and tell him it'll grow back soon enough. lmao

[@kunstlerleben_]

5:03 OMFG Patrick why would you do that jesus

[@Anasyub]

PATRICK IS SO squiSHY THO I LOVE HIM SO MUCH GAWD A SMOL BEAN

[@amiraberdouk3897]

Joe just staring into oblivion 15:05

[@ethanjones8115]

Me whenever I start thinking about the folie lyics

[@Scsigs]

Um, no one's hating that Fall Out Boy aren't Pop Punk anymore. People are hating that they're making bad Pop music. Does no one get this?

[@someone___1240]

Because people take it personally that the band they love is being criticized

[@scar.3y]

lol "most of our titles are ridiculous" omfg i swear im crying

[@axe.a.scene5]

HAS HE THROWN AWAY THE FEDORA!?!?

[@godnotavailable2094]

HOLY SHIT I HEARD BLACK ALBUM BY METALLICA. Sorry I got really excited there. I love FOB and Metallica quite a bit.

[@clareordonez5280]

LOOK AT 1:00 Andy and Joe having a private cute moment

[@maxpalmer3212]

TAKE A BREAK FALLOUTBOY YOU DESPERATELY NEED IT !!! YOU GUY’S ARE BEATING YOURSELVES INTO THE DIRT

[@guavasmoothie5516]

They did exactly that good job

[@Milesrgomez]

Their devolution

[@seaenna_n]

13:50 SUUUUUUURRRE *cough* *cough* "Llamania"

[@taylorcalvert5488]

who else is loving pete’s hair

[@theokr89]

16:18 - I don't even know what song that is - I'm deadI think they're all just a little tired

[@colesmith2451]

Why do I️ get the vibe that Pete is still super into this and the rest aren’t. Even seeing them in concert he’s the only one who interacts with the crowd.

[@teejee376]

Take a shot every time Pete says 'like'

[@ethanjones8115]

You'll die except believer never die

[@megangers429]

that couch looks crazy uncomfortable

[@miachristinaburry8343]

Does Pete not have shoes?

[@miachristinaburry8343]

Nevermind

[@kaylaruthhall38]

I love save Rock and roll . But I don't have there other albums . I want to get them .

[@keirab-h3135]

Andy is so fucking shy lmao

[@scarux]

hld me tght or dnt

[@JJ4EVER9232011]

Ben *Hld M Tght r Dnt*

[@amiraberdouk3897]

I think Pete is still emo judging by the subtle emo DecayDance Records sweatshirt

[@ethanjones8115]

But isn't his natural hair curly as well...

[@danielmartinez6326]

Says there's no secret album, releases three demos of songs that didn't make the cut

[@sidekick8521]

Anyone reading the comments and skipping the video till the time the commenter has written🤣....btw its an nice interview

[@sllngglttrfrthplstr2832]

8:13 ANDY YOU CUTE LITTLE FUCKER

[@noahpauley]

PETE SCENTZ BY PETE WENTZ

[@ethanjones8115]

I bet that if you said that to him in 2005 we would have had the promo video for it

[@julesramsden5740]

I'm calling it right now, and I really hate to say it, but based on body language and the general tone of voice in the answers here...I think Mania might be their last album. Joe looks miserable, Andy looks bored, Pete and Pat look like they're smiling for the camera and trying to find ways to make things sound like all is well.

[@folieablue]

Joseph Burns also some people are treating mania like they did with folie and we all know what that caused

[@erlineandrews]

Joe and Andy have been making music with Pete Wentz for more than half their lives. Joe since the age of 15. Andy since 16. Think about that. I wonder if they can even imagine doing anything else at this point in their lives.

[@miachristinaburry8343]

Joseph Burns nooooooo i know it's true but I makes me so sad. I haven't even been to a concert yet 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@blueisamoonchild8062]

They’re all exhausted, they’ve been working themselves half to death lately

[@erlineandrews]

Watching over the video there's so much to psychoanalyze. It's fascinating. Look at the way Andy and Joe look at each other and smirk while Pete is talking around 0:56. I'm wondering if they're forced to make these appearances. What punishment could they be threatened with?

[@miachristinaburry8343]

Hi Andy!!!!!!

[@miachristinaburry8343]

Hi Pete!!!!!!

[@miachristinaburry8343]

Hi Joe!!!!!!