No Bad Parts w/ Richard Schwartz

This week Scott is joined by therapist and creator of Internal Family Systems (IFS), Richard Schwartz. Dr. Schwartz offers his latest thoughts on IFS, personal burdens, and the 8 C's of Self-Energy. He even helps Scott make contact with a part of himself that's been buried since childhood summer camp during an impromptu therapy session.
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[@user-ju7rn5on8w]

I don't know if Dr. Richard will read this but I just want to thank him from the bottom of my heart. He has helped me more than I can ever quantify. Be blessed, kind sir!

[@brownie006]

Same!!!! Me too

[@klaraveer]

Same here! (And then, at one point, it suddenly felt strange Not to give this precious gift further: so I trained in his method and found meaning and so much joy, doing IFS 😊

[@decidingdifferent272]

after years of self hatred, a turning point for me was when i said, "how could i ever hate myself for saving my life?"

[@michellemonet4358]

Beautiful❤

[@annaalcyone6469]

Super! That’s it! It’s helping you, now to transform it.

[@ginaiosef1634]

IFS and Dr. Schwartz changed the approach worldwide and all the gratitude is more than deserved. With all respect for your condescending part, thank you for sharing this video.

[@AJyogi108]

I want to express my profound gratitude for Dr. Schwartz . His work has helping me heal deep trauma wounds and grow spiritually 🙏

[@peacefulisland67]

There are a few ideas that have helped me in recent years to go beyond simply stopping "bad" or unhealthy behaviors. One is that the "everything" I feel on a daily basis, that overly sensitive me that can make others cringe, is not coming from just my experience in this lifetime. It's coming from an accumulation of unresolved, misapprehended and rejected situations that are both passed down and laterally from previous and current generations. This relieves me of it being "all my fault" and pushing me down into victimhood and ineptitude. Actually, it lightens my spirit to know I'm carrying these issues for others, and I can relieve not only my burden but theirs too. In it I never feel alone or misunderstood, because how I feel came directly from others' experience. Another piece of relief came from being able to visualize my "parts"; untangle the sack of twisted and knotted yarn; have that liminal space to actually relate to and hear what is trying to be known. Otherwise it's like trying to read one book written in a thousand languages (at least); each page containing a word from each. All of our original goodness (8 c's) are in us and then being in a human experience can obscure that goodness or even twist it to become unhealthy. Like addiction. To what shall you addict yourself used to mean what will you give your life to, what will you master in service of others and yourself (concentration, perseverance, discipline, joy, intuition). Now addiction has become soulless and has nothing to do with service at all (obsessive, depressive, isolating, flat, instinct, harming). This is the hardest work I'll ever do. Changing the expression of my DNA and overriding long ingrained harmful, selfish motivations. Why? because I can't know what I am or what I'm doing from the inside. I have to be able to gain enough space to step out and look objectively. And that's not just uncomfortable but often brutally painful. Shredding skin. And it's perfect. 🙏

[@peterorozco]

I was just searching if the psychology podcast had an interview with Dr. Richard Schwartz. What timing. Excited to hear Dr. Kaufman interview Dr. Schwartz. 🎉

[@raphaelbessac]

Thank you Dr. Richard for the amazing work and also Scott for the corage of sharing and inspiring us. You're my hero, Scott

[@CatherineRobinson-jy4uv]

Scott, thank you for being brave and vulnerable to open up personally at the end of the interview. It was so insightful and moving. I learned a great deal, it was palpable.

[@maryelsauve8715]

Immense gratitude to both of of you for this amazing interview. Thank you Scott for your openness and vulnerability, what a gift you offered with this heartfelt demo at the end. Much love to you.

[@HenockTesfaye]

IFS rules!

[@kwikitti]

Amazing. Thank you so much, Scott, for allowing yourself to be so vulnerable during your podcast. That was a very brave thing to do. I really enjoyed you asking more probing questions so Richard dived deeper into details about how he developed, how he understands and how he implements his IFS model. Dr Schwatz's answers, and especially his therapy session with you, were very insightful. Thank you both again.

[@pot-8-o564]

i would have guessed Dr.Schawrtz was 54 not 74! thats amazing

[@lauriesthamann]

Love your interviews Scott and this one especially. I recall in Jim Fadiman's book it does reference IFS as I was curious about that. Very cool you will connect them with each other.

[@mariasoto1837]

My dream podcast.

[@LS_Courtney]

55:05 These real life demonstrations are phenomenal. Evidently this is something Mr. Schwartz does quite often. Highest kudos to Mr. Kaufman for being willing to go there. The contribution is indeed profound 💜

[@mariasoto1837]

My 2 favourite psychologists!!!

[@AznDudeIsOn]

30:22 thanks for insight from the DID patients 45:45 interesting Q

[@ashleyrandleas8157]

I am just an average person and I’m 100% for, being loving and kind to ALL people.

[@dominicksebastien2254]

I am afraid this has gone in the direction where this therapy, very useful in itself, has begun to be taken as a solution to everything and not part of the bugger picture. Instead, the bigger picture is narrowed down to fit the narrative. And the model has its problems. First of all, the question of Self. It's inherent, this is a presumption and what is listed under it's qualities are very culturally defined qualities that ask for a certain level of security to be cultivated. There are many parts of the world where there is no time to deal with the parts and healing and often you find yourself in a matter of life and death situations. Furthermore, if this self is the essence that is not hurt, a question might be asked, for someone who does hurtful things - you are to blame because you are not using your Self you inherently possess to control your hurtfully behaving parts. Of course, the case can be made - the self is not acting because the parts have taken over. Yes, but they have taken over because they protect, they don't want exiles to come to the surface. The self is still there with all its qualities - why doesn't it do anything about it? Why is it dormant, why is someone not using that very essence that, if it's inherent, we have it since birth, why is it often the most hidden part of us and not obvious? Again, I do not question the helpfulness even to the great extent, of this approach, that helped me in numerous ways, but over application is a problem in any approach, including this one.

[@analogkid4957]

Self is blocked or what’s known as blended with other parts such as addictive, anxious, or angry parts. I guess The Self is not like a magic wand. For some reason we have to work out the human stuff first and clear any blockages to Self. Although IFS emphasizes meditation, nature, or other ways to more effectively bring out Self energy. IFS is definitely not an easy process. So your question and concerns make sense.

[@dominicksebastien2254]

@@analogkid4957 Yes, this blending is problematic, finding exiles as well. I had good results with getting protectors in order and they responded well to guidance. In any case, I do find the model very applicable but it's good if it benefits from guidance by professional.

[@ronaldmoses793]

This work no parts is mesmerizing , it messed up my mind I am a normal guy, read the book i experimented all the exercises , i feel sad for me i am into something more tramatic and my sleep is reduced to 2 hours every day , these guys ... how they practice please help me doctor.. 3:40

[@mikem3779]

If you’re going to ask “why not take responsibility for all your parts as” you then must ask who or what is it that is taking responsibility? Is that just another part? Or is that something more essential, such as Self? I would suggest the latter.

[@analogkid4957]

Good question. It could be a “ fixer” part or manager part as called in IFS terminology. It could also be Self as well. Self would be very compassionate and not critical or shaming in any way to resolve any issues a person has.

[@jgarciajr82]

Richard needs to do Sam Harris next 😂🙏☯️🙌❤️🔥

[@Tamarahope77]

I like IFS, but still bothered by the lack of evidence for its benefit.

[@analogkid4957]

Lots of people have been helped by IFS. So it’s more peoples personal experiences rather than any scientific evidence. There are so many people who have personally benefited from this therapy and continue to utilize it.

[@annaalcyone6469]

There are loads of new things that work brilliantly yet for academia to put the stamp on and say oh yea it’s evidence based and all other bs it can take decades. And sometimes academia is not interested. Keep drilling the old like CBT for example 😂. One has to discern on your own - use it if it works and bin it if it doesn’t. Times are different. Just gotta step into one’s self empowerment and decide for oneself. ❤

[@JulesEvans]

Scott do you ever actually push against your interviewees' models or question them? The idea we have fully fledged parts within us with their own 'essence' and these parts have parts - also fully fledged with their own essence - and so on is absurd and could very easily be harmful.

[@nyc1234100]

I did push back. Did you listen to the interview? I asked him to clarify a lot of things. It's funny, because I got some pushback on this episode for pushing back. Seems like I can't win. :) Thanks for your comment.