No Better Home Theater AVR at $2000. The GOAT! ONKYO TX-RZ70

[@JilesMcCoy]

⚠ Learn more about the Onkyo RZ70 here jiles.link/rz70 ⌕ QUESTIONS? Click THANKS☝to highlight your question & give thanks for the help you receive! ✅Click View Products or OPEN the description BELOW for everything in the video!

[@buju2012]

This Receiver Sound Quality is absolutely Mind Blowing paired with all Definitive Technology speakers and Subs -for all reviewers please know every component you use including media players,speaker cable,HDMI cable and also room software like Dirac's sophisticated room equalisation software makes a big difference 😊

[@JilesMcCoy]

It really is amazing!

[@8474Starscream]

@@JilesMcCoy Picked up the Sandy Gross era Definitive Technology Speakers over 20 years ago and still kicking!!!!!!!! BP7001 BP7002 & BP7006 tower speakers.

[@Albee213]

I love Onkyo recievers and had 3. All over timw had had HDMI problems. I just ordered the RZ70 and will be running an external fan and hope it lasts. My older recivers were all 10 plus years old before having problems.

[@JilesMcCoy]

10 years is a good run. They are obsolete at that point.

[@jagsandhu6114]

This is the best ...Onkyo has brought out....No problem running my 5.2.4 system...SVS ultra towers/ultra center/ ultra surrounds ..Dual Def Tech DN 12 subs...really immersive sound.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Thats awesome!

[@jagsandhu6114]

Cheers....

[@pickafingname]

I bought at $1999 off A$75 a year is CHEAP insurance for something this expensive. Anyway since I am an owner one thing I see constantly NOT spoken about is Onkyo typically produces more power than advertised. The RZ70 is @140w but bench tests shows it outputs 170w which makes it arguably THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK receiver. It's also optimized for Klipsch speakers. The sound is neutral - neither bright like denon nor warm like Marantz. Right in the middle aka switzerland. Lastly, something else not spoken about is how to separate your needs to actually have both killer HTR and HIFI. The HDMI 1 is specifically designed to allow lossless MP3 compression. Anyone that "tunes" their system when everything is being run off of one input (say a firestick or a roku or apple) is not using the receiver to its full native abilities. ANY adjustment you make to your sound affects the entire settings for the input in use. The point I'm trying to drive home here is this receiver has a TON of options specifically for HIFI which if a person doesn't use say an external DAC or even a second firestick specifically for HIFI you're selling your HIFI abilities way short. Anyone that just says, "Tune your system" doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. SEPERATE your HTR and HIFI duties and THEN tune them both SEPERATELY using the wonderful options Onkyo has provided in their product natively.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Thanks for the comments!

[@MrDafloof]

Which warranty did you purchase?

[@Thatrandomwhiteguy]

​@@MrDafloof the scam one😂

[@matthewwiecha8637]

Love being Canadian but boy do we get screwed with electronics. I'd love to get an RZ70 but $1999 US, in Canada $4199!! I did the exchange rate conversion equates to @$2800 not 4K+,anyways,off to buy a lottery ticket,well,at least my doctor visit is free.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Good luck!

[@matthewwiecha8637]

@@JilesMcCoy So excited you bothered to reply,such a great receiver,such a great review. I have a NAD 787 that I love but many yrs old obv no Atmos. It's moving in the house someday and the RZ70 in the outside party room,right now, if I import from the US,pay the shipping and import duty,minimum I save is $800 over Canadian retailers, just upset I'm put in this position but still glad I'm north of the border,all the best in '25.

[@xieulong]

I bought from the US. Even with duty, it's still less than buying it here.

[@turnne]

I have the Pioneer twin of this unit...the LX805 that i snagged at best buy for $1499. Absolutely amazing piece for the price.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Thats awesome!

[@timothyclauw7035]

Would this be an audible and feature laden upgrade over the Denon avrx4500h?

[@JilesMcCoy]

I suggest doing a Good feature and cost comparison and using that to compare. If the Denon doesn’t have Dirac then it’s a no brainer.

[@timothyclauw7035]

@ the Denon is from 2019, no Dirac is offered for it. I was wondering if Dirac is a night and day difference over audyssey calibration-especially if I could purchase the Onkyo txrz70 for $1999. Appreciate your reviews and answering my questions , keep up the great work!

[@JilesMcCoy]

@@timothyclauw7035 Its a game changer for my ears.

[@timothyclauw7035]

@@JilesMcCoy thank you

[@williamh192]

Love your channel and great reviews ! I'm really considering this unit and am currently running old Bose satellites which I'm thinking these would not be the best thing for what this unit can do . What speakers would you recommend for a 15 x 21 foot room ? Thanks Jiles

[@JilesMcCoy]

There are so many options! What kind of speakers do you need and what is your budget? I agree with replacing the Bose.

[@benschoenfelder3321]

Hello, what is the component rack called you put the reciever in? thx.

[@JilesMcCoy]

My rack is a Middle Atlantic.

[@offdacorner]

Just a sugestion. Next time you profile the rear of a receiver can you center and zoom in the camera a little better?

[@JilesMcCoy]

Ill do the best I can.

[@SafwanAlavi]

Hi, is it better than Yamaha A8A?

[@JilesMcCoy]

I've never used the Yammie before.

[@GesziAtom]

How do you feel compared to Primare SPA25?

[@JilesMcCoy]

I like that the Onkyo doesn't need an external amp to power all of its channels. The Primare has a more premium feel and look. They both sound good. The Onkyo is less expensive.

[@MrDafloof]

Have to ask. Still worth it, at $1799? Just saw the price today but trying to decide between this and a more basic receiver to run my 7.2.4 setup

[@JilesMcCoy]

1799 is a STEAL! What is the other option you are considering?

[@MrDafloof]

@JilesMcCoy denon 3800h

[@MrDafloof]

@JilesMcCoy was looking at a Denon 3800h

[@JilesMcCoy]

@ That’s a solid unit. But it’s not on the RZ70 level.

[@MrDafloof]

@@JilesMcCoy I might pull the trigger. Having Dirac Live included is a nice perk too

[@unseendeceiver]

My rz50 has the dreaded HDMI issues. It's driving me crazy. I'm currently looking for it's replacement.

[@JilesMcCoy]

There aren’t any dreaded HDMI issues that I know of. Whats up?

[@MarkStewart-w2v]

​@@JilesMcCoyOnkyo has a problem with there DTS CHIP. And its not new.

[@Eki274]

just between us what would you choose for the same price? I had Onkyo rz1100 wonderful receiver 6 years ago I bought Onkyo rz70 great price I managed 2500€. I could choose in Europe currently Black FrideyDenon 4800 1300€ Marantz cinema 40 1800€ Denon 6800 2300€. Wouldn't Marantz cinema 40 or Denon 6800 be better in your opinion? Would you decide. Marantz 40 would cost the same with Diaract live as rz70. Denon 6800 a bit more. 2700€ I know that America has different prices.

[@JilesMcCoy]

At the same cost I'd choose the RZ70.

[@emilianoescobar1015]

@@JilesMcCoy I have cancel the 6800H at 2100 and bought the RZ70 for 2000!

[@JilesMcCoy]

@@emilianoescobar1015 Cant wait to hear how you like it!

[@martinfarinha]

Hey Jiles, I know you said the 70 is for people that want 11 channels but what would you do if like me you want a maximum 5.2.2 system with separate sub channels and all five of your bed layer channels are identical 4ohm speakers (Jamo d500 thx select 2 89db 4ohm). From what I can see the rz 50 is borderline at best and only has a single sub channel and the new rz30 even though it has dual sub out and ticks all my wanted boxes will probably cook itself to death as soon as it's presented with a low impedance speaker, let alone five of them.

[@JilesMcCoy]

I have the 30 and I am going to test it with my set of 4 ohm Stake Speakers. I think it will be great, but I will know soon.

[@martinfarinha]

@@JilesMcCoy you sir, are a STAR! I hope you won't mind me asking more questions while I'm on my little odyssey.

[@JilesMcCoy]

@@martinfarinha go for it

[@martinfarinha]

​@@JilesMcCoyIs the review of the rz30 coming soon?

[@JilesMcCoy]

@@martinfarinha Got the unboxing video posted today. I am testing the unit in my living room now. The Dirac works wonderfully. SO far super impressed by it! Review video coming soon.

[@brianaustin8136]

Hey Jiles audioholics advises to NEVER set an AVR to the 4 ohm mode like you did in the video because it completely neuters the amount of power the AVR can reproduce.

[@JilesMcCoy]

I saw. But you can totally do it and this guy still kicks ass. And I really do have 4 ohm speakers.

[@JilesMcCoy]

⚠ Learn more about the Onkyo RZ70 here jiles.link/rz70 ⌕ QUESTIONS? Click THANKS☝to highlight your question & give thanks for the help you receive! ✅Click View Products or OPEN the description BELOW for everything in the video!

[@obeahuk]

Im still using my monster Yamaha DSPZ9. The rz70 might just be the one for an upgrade

[@JilesMcCoy]

Nice!

[@JilesMcCoy]

I was serious about that Laser Disc player! If anyone has one laying around let me know!

[@randallross3036]

I have an extra one. Pioneer

[@welderfixer]

Wouldn't the LP sized laser discs be great size for 4k-8k-12k films. I'm beginning to hate the CD sized 4k discs that stop playing or pixelate. I would be 100% in favor of doubling the diameter of 4k discs if we could get reliable playback with complete studio video and audio data.

[@JilesMcCoy]

@@welderfixer The next step is to eliminate physical media. It will never get bigger.

[@welderfixer]

@@JilesMcCoy That would be great only if everyone could easily afford the KScape systems. But, of course, the vast majority of us are Hobo Broke. To those guys who can afford it - Must Be Nice!

[@JilesMcCoy]

@@welderfixer I wasn't thinking Kscape, I was thinking streaming.

[@JilesMcCoy]

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[@eddyfernandez3710]

Wow, this thing is fantastic!

[@JilesMcCoy]

Yeah, it’s pretty magical for 2k. It does Auro3d too. I didn’t even get to that in the video.

[@eddyfernandez3710]

@@JilesMcCoy do you know if it can do 5.1.6 or 5.2.6?

[@JilesMcCoy]

There isn’t any support for 6 heights that I saw.

[@danemoreno88]

Thinking real hard about getting the rz70 just for the upgraded dacs I don’t need the extra power but independent dual subs is nice plus I heard it has a better remote

[@JilesMcCoy]

The dual subs is really awesome! Worth it. If you just want to change dacs I would go with an external DAC.

[@danemoreno88]

@ did you have to pay extra for dlbc or does it come with the rz70 already ?

[@ast-og-losta]

Same here. I heard the DACs are quite good.

[@ast-og-losta]

@@JilesMcCoy Only thing, the external DAC most of the time will only take two channels from a USB. The receiver can take multiple channels from the HDMI>

[@ben23a31]

Nice review. Question tho, what is the listed frequency/bandwidth with all channels driven? Most amplification is tested at 1khz wpc which isn't real would listening. Thx

[@JilesMcCoy]

They don’t even provide an all channels driven measurement that I can find. All the researching was able to do examining 3rd party measurements puts it at just north of 100 watts per channel when everything is loaded. Which is pretty impressive at 11 channels. I’ve flexed it hard with pretty heavy loads and it’s not failed me. Impressive.

[@ben23a31]

​@@JilesMcCoy that's impressive if at full range. Thanks Jiles for the quick reply .

[@diamondjiwanpuri]

I bought RZ70 in Australia on the release day and have been loving this since day 1. Its a powerful beast and has excellent channel separation. I am running 7.1.4 with all Klipsch speakers/subs; a match made in heaven. Nothing can beat it at this price range. I have recently added Emotiva 2 channel external amp to drive the fronts, and it has improved the sound even further.

[@matrixmarsh]

Just because you had a bad experience doesn’t made Onkyo bad I’ve had the previous flagship RZ3100 for 6 years and it’s been fantastic and now the RZ 70 which is even better so no Onkyo isn’t junk

[@diamondjiwanpuri]

@ Are you replying to my comment? I don't think so I said even 1% negative about RZ70 🤣

[@JilesMcCoy]

I think that came up for the wrong comment.

[@Bemx2k]

Sadly in EU it costs, 2800$

[@JilesMcCoy]

:-(

[@randomreader1999]

Really bleu box 😂

[@mikewbrantley]

FYI: Laserdisc players have composite video outputs, and some have s-video outputs. But not component. That came with DVD.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Thanks for watching!

[@jimhamlin6551]

weights tooo much ! But i love it!

[@JilesMcCoy]

:)

[@allankegler849]

$4000+ in Canada, still worth it? Why double in Canada? What’s the reason? Dollar taxes shipping doesn’t double it.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Depends on what other things cost up there.

[@Thatrandomwhiteguy]

U can get a Yamaha z-11 for 500 cash😂😂

[@JilesMcCoy]

But then that’s what you have….

[@Thatrandomwhiteguy]

@JilesMcCoy will never need an upgrade... most games & movies are still 7.1 i only use my z11 for the enhancer... & left & right sub... i run all picture to the tv directly... always will... the z11 is just a brain... for me.. i dont understand y people buy new receivers... even if you need more then 140-170 rms or 400 peak... you just need add on power amplifiers... save money in the long run... like honestly other then the extra sub output i was happy with my dads Yamaha or even my older htr-6290... was enough.... both of my receivers & a set of flagship speakers was under 2k..... U do u but i will never understand... + onkyo is vary unreliable.... compared to Yamaha or even Sony....

[@JilesMcCoy]

It ultimately comes down to what you want and need in your system. The reliability argument is a dead duck now though. This unit is targeted at the enthusiast that wants Atmos and amazing DSP.

[@JilesMcCoy]

​@@Thatrandomwhiteguy People typically buy new receivers to upgrade the HDMI / HDCP version or for new decoding formats. Auro, Atmos etc. Sometimes for better network features too: Roon, IP control, etc. Or maybe the way to move to full outboard amplification. Or they want better room correction. Or maybe the way more independent subwoofer channels. Lots of reasons.

[@Thatrandomwhiteguy]

@@JilesMcCoy i kinda understand but paying full price for 80% of what you already have feels insane...or even a scam... room correction kills speakers in the long run...in my experience.... i highly recommend manually set up everything if you understand your equipment fully.... my old studio lab sl-550 for instance sound lifeless to me...on auto mic..but my psb golds sound better in some ways.... worse in other ways.... i mostly run 2 channel... but i find if i auto set up everything & go back to two channel im at 0 to +4 fast... but with manual set up i can play -14 & play music for the hole house. I can be upstairs or outside & hear everything... yes my house sounds like rating trash.. with some songs but thats how its always been + you lose impact base with the auto set up... i find it way to control happy.... only would use in an apartment or a home close to another... as the mic contains the sound in the one room.... the main thing i hate... it will be 0 in the room with the reciever but the kitchen on the other side of the wall is like -40 💀 manual is -14 in receiver room & kitchen seems like maybe 6 db off... i run the gain at -2 to 0 depending on speakers im using at the time.... also depends how i want the volume... -2 keeps everything smooth... 0 gives you heart pounding bass.... -1 at least in my room is a happy medium... sorry for the book just released im losing it😂

[@bingdong8571]

125 real watts is plenty of power. If you want, replace the 1 with a 2 and nobody would no the difference even if they say they could

[@JilesMcCoy]

I agree. It’s less than 3 db and it already gets louder than you can listen.

[@jtjumpshot]

The volume is low and hard to hear

[@JilesMcCoy]

Thanks for watching!

[@jtjumpshot]

@@JilesMcCoy Still great content, as usual.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Thanks! Appreciate it!

[@Music.Movies.67]

Arcam AV Receivers sound better than Onkyo AV Receivers

[@JilesMcCoy]

They are nice gear.

[@spudo133]

yeah but they are rigged with so much bugs. I have just got AVR11 sent one back and the second one is no better. I doubt the Onkyo would be far off, I am considering Onkyo or Marantz cinema 40

[@JilesMcCoy]

@@spudo133 I've hit 0 bugs on the Onkyo. Used it a TON!

[@spudo133]

@@JilesMcCoy have you tested the cinema 40? If so how do you think they compare?

[@randallross3036]

Nice piece! Now there's competition to the X3800H Denon but with power for all channels. Also, I have an extra laser disc player. Pioneer brand.

[@JilesMcCoy]

Drop me a note at Jiles @ Jiles.org

[@MikeMargolis-j8f]

It's so odd that the X3800 is compared to the RZs, as the Onkyos absolutely DWARF the Denon in terms of sheer size - though I understand they're being compared based on price. Also, the build quality between the Denon and the RZs is like night and day, and I don't know where Denon gets the balls to charge what they do for an amp with a plastic front panel and knobs. Heck, I hate the fact that we had to pay a grand for the 2800 and THAT was entirely plastic (on the front).

[@jjimlee7009]

RZ70 is a nice AVR but honestly, I don't think the RZ70 is a great value right now for an average home theater setup. Not when the RZ50 can do almost everything it can do (mainly less power- though still plenty, no independent subs - but you can get around that and needs external amp for 11ch) and is sold for just $1000 (as of this post). Just add another $100-150 for the external amp to get the full 11 ch setup (7.1.4). If the RZ70 goes to $1500 range, then it be truly worth it. Also on a side note, I hear Dirac is gonna lower prices on their software. Always a good thing when stuff gets cheaper - wonder if that will affect the AVR prices since a lot of them come with Dirac licenses.

[@JilesMcCoy]

You buy the rz70 when you want 11 channels and Dirac.

[@donwojtanowski140]

@@jjimlee7009 rz70 has way better internals and Dacs, built like a tank with massive power supply

[@LEMON48]

Buhahaha in EU cost now 3500 Euro , that why i bought Denon A1H for 5700 Euro and this is a beast !!!!!

[@JilesMcCoy]

Nice!

[@Eki274]

Buahahaha.Europe vor 2Woche 2200e ich habe gekaufen fur 1950euro.😂😂😂Open box.

[@Eki274]

Heh Onkyo 1190W Denon A1h 1100W😂 Europe version.

[@Eki274]

​@@JilesMcCoyEurope to 2200euro New vor 2Weeks.Onkyo rz70 in my Home 1950 😊euro

[@ThomasColeFZ]

Onkyo = junk. Last two Onkyo amps I bought BOTH became inoperable AND economically not worth repairing right after warranty period expired. The idea of spending 2 grand on ANY of their products is absurd.

[@JilesMcCoy]

I’ve got Onkyo gear that’s been running for years and years and years. Sorry you had bad times.

[@donwojtanowski140]

Stop living in the past man. Those were hdmi board problems that every company had back then. It's a thing of the past,besides this is built by the new Japanese premium company that bought onkyo. Just look at the internals on this thing and the size of those heat sinks. Lastly watch the bench test results on this at audioholics.

[@ThomasColeFZ]

@@donwojtanowski140 no thanks, good luck because you're going to need it 😀

[@bikdav]

@ThomasColeFZ: A really early Onkyo HDMI receiver quit on me rather quickly. But, I’ve had no problems with my present two receivers.

[@bikdav]

⁠@@donwojtanowski140Those bench test by Audioholics were amazing. Audioholics “beats on equipment” to find out if it’s worthwhile.