No Boards...No Problem. Old School Plastering Explained |

[@marksmeaton1564]

I was once told by an old plasterer that the plaster wasnt dry until you could strike a match on it!

[@petekobraoutdoors7324]

Usually, one week curing time is recommended before primer and paint.

[@ian4102]

These experts make it look so easy! Great work

[@steveh100]

Never used that stuff, used to use bonding coat for thick repairs, doing a whole wall like that was way out of my skillset. Good job.

[@professortruth56]

And in 15 years a new owner will tear all the plaster off so as to expose the brick work.

[@rbruce5270]

doubt it

[@maddawgzzzz]

Nah that isn’t esthetic brick

[@TheEugeep]

@@maddawgzzzz but how would the NEW owner know that until exposing it?

[@mickymac73]

😂

[@ATerriblepurpose]

@@TheEugeep Homes under the hammer. Superman special.

[@Frenulem]

Mate i dont mean to take the piss in saying this, i've been a decorator for a few years now, worked on plently of plaster and genuinely you might be the only bloke that i would actually call a plasterer, rest of em are just much chuckers. YOU SAID FLAT AND PLUMB

[@JORDANMARC1]

I love an old school hardwall I miss the old browning days mixing with my dad in the dead of winter battling the elements to get home everyday 😄 we were warriors everyday love you dad x

[@arranhill6002]

Awesome! Winter's every builders nightmare

[@tomsharpe2251]

Bless both of you

[@callumsimpson7483]

@@arranhill6002so is peak summer especially being a sparky up in lofts. Don’t know what I prefer tbh freezing my bollocks off or sweating them off 😂😂😂

[@arranhill6002]

@@callumsimpson7483you're right mate I was just doing some wallpaper stripping the other day with the steamer on all the doors shut and it's 27 degrees I was sweating my bolliks off 😂

[@martyjago8636]

Back in the day mixing browning in a bath with a shovel

[@GINASUMMERS1]

You make it look so easy 😂 Thank you for your help, I hope my bathroom comes out like your wall!!

[@samdanico2681]

Thank you for showing the product. I often can't tell what products to use from the minimal description written on the bag

[@tenaciouslee1808]

Good job, but also I quite like the bare brick 😂👍🏼

[@endoalley680]

We embed EIFS matting into base coat to prevent cracking.

[@petekobraoutdoors7324]

Good job!

[@Drunk3nMonk3y72]

I bet that room stank of boiled eggs

[@DaDude999]

Watching from the US. Totally foreign to me. It's all drywall near me. Cool to see.

[@randomcrashingfacility31]

Wild just how many ways there are to build houses.

[@user-df4qp7ur2z]

Dry wall is not a trade , he is not really very good if he needed to put a level on his backing coat he's an amateur 😂😂😂😂

[@davidramey7186]

There’s plenty of plaster in the USA I’m here and both of my houses are plaster walls

[@DaDude999]

@@davidramey7186 I assume mainly in the 1950s and older housing stock. In my area in the western suburbs most everything is within the last 50-60 years. YMMV

[@wozsalam8942]

im an asian and i never see a drywall in houses

[@trevorsmith579]

Wow nice work very skilled work

[@midnightninja3268]

Tight coat of bonding on painted bricks as hard wall need mechanical key 🤙

[@user.--.]

He did put primer on both sides to keep the suction rate the same, then put hardwall on.

[@HARRYYZ125]

Chip or grind all the brick work then use bonding plaster. Which is designed for low suction back grounds, Hard wall isnt for painted brick..

[@l.n3187]

@@HARRYYZ125 Product description says it works on painted surfaces

[@HaharuRecords]

gREAT WORK, I am thinking to use icing for plastering my wall. both looks creamy

[@11mimiriri]

What is icing?

[@mervmervalot2296]

Always a nice job.... well done

[@mickrhodes-ji8pk]

Mixed on plenty off plasters back in the day first coat was grey thistle mixed in a tin bath with a rake applied then skim to finish

[@abcdbdkdka4002]

i’ve been plastering last 4 years and have sort of mastered general skimming but what makes you decide between hardwalling and dotting?

[@joseeduardobarrundia332]

Excelente 👌 plasterman

[@liamobrian9642]

How is hard wall on old out side walls damp ect

[@bastardohorribilis949]

Float and set was the best by far. Proper work. Proper tradesmen. Anyone can coat a wall with bagged shit. You’ve just coated a wall, that will be like a climbing wall. Gypsum shit

[@MarcGray1990]

Lovely and solid after that I bet… my house has quite a lot of solid plaster done a few years ago. Other areas were borded but done right this method takes some beating in my opinion! Tough as nails afterwards

[@joekent230]

Top quality work there my friend 👏 👌 👍

[@PlasteringForBeginners]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@davos9450]

Nice work 👍

[@stevemurphy328]

Nice job

[@petermcgill1559]

Lovely👍🙂

[@johnclowes3894]

Great job as always. One question. Is it best to have a mirror smooth finish like I see here or not. Just worrying about paint absorption. I think it best if Emulsion sinks into plaster and not lay on top. I know painters usually seal the plaster with either sealer of thinned down paint first. Alls this is is questions mainly for painters. What they find is the best plaster finish. That could then be passed on to plasterers.👍

[@TrevorCoe-zw8fo]

Thats the worst stuff to use on old brick walls, the poor customer will have to sort the problems out

[@callumsimpson7483]

I’m really baffled why the sparky has sunk the box in the brickwork but left the oval out 😂😂😂 what a prick

[@johnhiggins4393]

It's because the box is deeper than the conduit and it leaves plenty of room to terminate the cables.

[@Abdullah-rs3db]

beautiful

[@HarleyN93]

Got more shine than phil Mitchell's head that finish

[@bigjohn5689]

Can you plaster on to masonry paint?

[@SteveRogers461]

Beautiful finish but surely this will crack everywhere? Maybe use a render mesh in the plaster?

[@shakeelkhan8427]

Nice

[@andrewgrant6704]

Painted surface ? And using hardwall? Should be tight coat of bonding

[@JDRED_Wallis]

Very nice shine.

[@tyoung9012]

For best adhesion, wet the brick with wet sponge first

[@damprotek]

I used a small pump sprayer.

[@garrieleepeck8753]

Why does newly skimmed plaster keep cracking falling off walls in massive chucks .4 times in 6 years

[@endoalley680]

No bonder agent painted on substrate? Dusty dirty substrate? Plaster dried out before sufficient setting and curing? Plaster froze before curing?

[@staffordcook260]

All brick houses is my dream

[@Kierenstanden-qz7eu]

Is hardwall breathable ?

[@flamingo2998]

What plaster did you go any use , u got a link 😊

[@leaphtc5435]

Why did you use hardwall instead of bonding coat?

[@colinjaques9864]

Resists moisture .

[@SteabhanMacGR2]

Nice work

[@doubletapthat2183]

How long till u can skim over the Hard wall ?

[@evertonmartins7610]

Hi buddy, I did skimcoat on a wall but is not great, after it drying how Can I apply another layer to make it good? Thanks

[@pit8557]

You forgot to mention that if using hardwall you have to apply the multi finish within 24hr

[@fullmetalalkami6466]

No you don't, just PVA the hell out of it and it's fine

[@damprotek]

Would rather use sbr.

[@jasonsansome5579]

​@@damprotek100%, your finish coat is only as strong as what it's stuck to, PVA is as weak as piss!

[@thetruthfulone73]

Hi do u cover manchester? Need my whole house doing this way. Its been took back to bare brick

[@Participant616]

PVA / SBR to wall before hardwall coat or not?

[@DirigiblePlum69]

Do you need to key it??? Does it help with suction or something?

[@anthonyshackleton6178]

Pva glue and bonding before skimming

[@rayc1503]

Plasterers pre grit or PVA neat with kiln dried sand rubbed in for a keying in surface. Aids bonding, hardwall or multi finish to grip to the wall.

[@ianking4713]

Never use pva on bare brick. Totally pointless and counterproductive

[@leerussell8939]

Nice job is there any chance your sponsored by OX Tools?👍🏻

[@faghriedavids2415]

Like what you do bro .

[@rosco7280]

Mate no offence here and I am not slagging anyones work but hardwall does not stick to paint or gyproc or even concrete lintels needs to be bonding 👍

[@stevengordon2145]

He's probably put SBR on first don't think he would just wack rough coat straight onto the wall... A better explanation would have helped..but to be fair it's only a short

[@rosco7280]

@@stevengordon2145 still won't matter it doesn't stick

[@stevengordon2145]

@@rosco7280 Ok, buddy tell that to the artex board I ripped from a client's ceiling. I personally keyed then coated with SBR. Whacked rough coat on left for one month in my garage It stuck fast and never came off... I wanted to test SBR see what it's good for. As polyvinyl acetate (PVA) is not very good it has its limits. Bonding has cork chippings in it and is lightweight and sticks to plasterboards. hardwall is for high impact areas...again Bonding is a undercoat plaster for low suction backgrounds like concrete (not what he's working on in video). hardwall has high impact resistance and is quicker drying. Browning is better but hard to work with in cold weather.( Got discontinued in 2019). I really don't care if you can't accept those facts...I don't have the time or inclination to convince you. Take this up with British gypsum or better still render the old walls you work with then skim them. After 20 yrs on the trowle I think I know my way around an old building by now. Each to their own. Blaine's not hurting me or you. P.S Better still put your trowle on the wall, push record on ya phone and show him how it's done..

[@rosco7280]

@@stevengordon2145 fair enough mate if u have tried and tested as I haven't done that myself 👍 I am a boss for a plaster company and mostly use hardwall and if a caught someone put it straight on a concrete lintel or gyproc I will still be telling them to take it straight off and put a coat of bonding over it but each to there own

[@stevengordon2145]

@@rosco7280 👍 Thanks for that... Just one point concrete lintels are ment to be fitted with EML first then rendered if on external walls just in case there is a small risk of thermal bridging as gypsum rock is hydroscopic.. Nobody said anything about hardwall on lentils. I've been my own boss for a very long time every spread I trained is now doing extremely well for themselves... This is not about me or you. Blaine's channel is doing a great job bringing plastering to the wider audience. hopefully a few people take up the trade and home owners get invaluable advice a few are inspired to have a go ...I'm all for it 🥃

[@leojilka]

Why not use plaster broad ?

[@Hakim-sz1rl]

Why you not put board instead of ward wall

[@smarshall110988]

How many months does this take to dry ?

[@darrentaylor8511]

Needs to be closed in more with that float thou when it's ready for key.

[@Brick_dont_hit_back]

How did you prime this painted bricks ?? Sbr ? Pva? Shouldn't be grit ?

[@PlasteringForBeginners]

It was tough because I didn’t want to completely kill the suction. It was grinded back for a better key and SBR applied. Hardwall is better on high suction backgrounds but it was one wall…half painted brick half not. So I decided on Hardwall but tough choice because ideally Bonding would have been used on painted brick. But Bonding isn’t great on bare brick so you’re dammed either way ha! It’s all good though - it was a year ago and it’s still going strong 👍

[@nathanrollason4829]

Should of used thistle bonding mate

[@stephenparsons5278]

How much would you charge for that that wall?

[@johnnybhoy4278]

Nobody plasters as well as those Brits!

[@SuperOtnok]

Way more stronger than dry wall

[@PlasteringForBeginners]

Very true!

[@Participant616]

Why does it need to be stronger? Are you going to tap dance on it?

[@gaysquirrels6915]

​@@Participant616 Less likely to blow I'd imagine

[@richiehall4832]

Is this ok o we lime mortar as well

[@StrongEye]

That can go over painted bricks?

[@kf5541]

No!

[@swirledworld340]

Instructions unclear can't get the feathers out and my pillow is ruined.

[@jacksmith4484]

Should use bonding on the painted brickwork first hardwall won’t take very well to it

[@tyoung9012]

The plaster is a masonry similar to the brick so it will bond extremely well. For best adhesion, wet the brick with wet sponge first.

[@tony359]

@@tyoung9012 Yes but Jack said "painted" brickwall! (watch carefully)

[@pandamilkshake]

My toxic trait is that I believe I could do that too

[@elroyal1]

You'll have a nightmare making sure it's plumb with this method😂

[@ktmidol]

It’s not good long term and difficult to maintain whereas with plasterboard you can just stick one on top. Just my opinion.

[@hemtet5500]

How do you deal with thermolite blocks as they’ve given me huge problems. I think they’re just meant for dry lining aren’t they?

[@jamiemorris6658]

Atleast two coats of PVA minimum mate. Go for three if it still isn't tacky

[@chelseacharlie262]

Been using SBR 1 part 3 parts water. Applying day before Goes lovely.

[@owenbutcher1954]

👌👍

[@gezmonder]

Why would it need boards anyway? I live in a 70s house, no boards anywhere other than in an extension, awful material.

[@jarlathgeraghty6572]

Do u not use bonding

[@monday7150]

Why hardwall as opposed to bonding or browning or sand cement render or even renovating plaster?

[@Lemon-squeezer]

Browning is manufactured anymore hardwall took its place,bonding is good for patching and use on low suction backgrounds,renovation plaster is for walls or area’s that suffer with damp sand cement can be used but why waste time with mixing ratio’s and waiting for it to cure before skimming when you can do it all the same day with hardwall

[@sergiusamxander4615]

@@Lemon-squeezer give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man how to fish and you feed him a whole life. Thanks a lot for spreading the knowledge 🙏

[@lozbian68]

​@@Lemon-squeezer just so you know renovating plaster is no good for damp as it has cement in it , lime plaster all the way if you have damp issues with a breathable paint 👌

[@cctv8387]

Bonding last longer my man trust me , hardwall crumbles after time , asin drilling pictures up ect

[@bertrude95]

Scratch coat?

[@pigswillbepigs]

And this I why I don’t plaster.

[@brandan3776]

From Canada here why put platster over the brick just to cover the brick couldn't you strap with wood and drywall that just curious

[@justworldwide]

Because they have to make it seem they done more work so they can charge more money.....

[@joshellis8848]

Drywall is cheaper and quicker. Solid plaster is better for soundproofing, insulation, and fixing things too, as you won't need to use plasterboard fixings. But this method takes more time skill and money.

[@jdeasi]

Would have scudded that wall then pva before coating

[@guyrogers5758]

I’d do it completely different, but everyone has their own way.

[@Shadai929]

Had a flood in my house and walls are getting put right back to the brick would you get traditional plaster like this done or would you get it sheeted? Builders say sheeted but is that not just the cheap option ?

[@guyfawkes4404]

I'd prefer plaster, more insulated than plasterboard. I've got plasterboard just now and you can feel the cold on the walls.

[@tonygoshive785]

I prefer plaster too, not a fan of dot and dab, nothing wrong with dot and dab, depends on who does it, it may or may not be faster. A lot tend to push for boarding simply because it’s easily to skim. Get a few plasterers to quote on the plastering and boarding, not a builder

[@Shadai929]

@@tonygoshive785 it’s insurance companies contractor they are trying to push for plasterboard keep saying it’s mush warmer which I don’t believe for a minute.

[@tonygoshive785]

@@Shadai929 if you do decide on plasterboard, at least get insulated board, you are going to see a real difference, would benefit with the winters to come. Just make sure whoever do the job dab the adhesive properly on external walls to avoid cold breach.

[@Shadai929]

@@tonygoshive785 they offered insulated board aswell would you say that is better than traditional stuff or not ?

[@michaelcollins2399]

Just like that 😂 simple

[@BB-bt9vj]

Gem 💎. 👍👍

[@martinsmith3192]

Can't put hardball on paint should be thistle bonding

[@caddyvw8842]

Can you leave the hardwall for 24h then plaster?

[@rayc1503]

After 24hrs watch your plaster dry up really quicky unless you pva or pre grit then plaster. Best to do it as soon as the harwall goes rigid.

[@caddyvw8842]

@rayc1503 okay thanks for the advice much appreciated 👍

[@robtowers4973]

Shouldn’t use on painted wall my friend

[@woody1380]

Don't talk nonsense. Of course you can paint a plastered wall. What else would you do?

[@jazzlike5138]

​@@woody1380believe he's referring to the painted brick wall in the video

[@elliottdebell7783]

Why do I always get bubbles in my multifinish!

[@stewartscannell8881]

Your overworking an area too much that needs to dry some more first 👍

[@rayc1503]

Let the multi finish set and work them back in. They will cover up in your second coat.

[@alecvicarageforbes3315]

Should’ve took paint of brick work won’t stick !

[@fazlieismail12]

Malaysia style

[@ronnyg2368]

Arnt you ment to pva the surface first ? Surely that first layer will blow between the original and the first coat. Thats what I learned in my plastering corse ...

[@pit8557]

If you look at the wall it's shiny with the pva

[@lonniei1606]

​@@pit8557 correct!

[@gurnamthind9218]

No mash?

[@Deeelectricgates]

Bring on the rising damp

[@cxg101]

Just use lime plaster

[@jameskemp2273]

How come you didn't dot and dab it mate ?

[@andybarbour3620]

Awesome work 👏 do we pva the brick first, then pva the hardwall once that's fry before the multifinish? Thanks

[@YoooooWhassup]

No need to put PVA before top coat. Only on the hard surface first before the first coat 👍

[@leedavis7663]

Yes I would definitely pva the brickwork first.if going over painted brickwork I would scrap loose paint then use a blue grit to help with a key. If you are skimming over the hardwall the next day,light scrape and pva for sure.

[@twinscrollturbo4410]

Should get yourself a h rule!, feather edges are shite, you don't have to hold a h rule anything like as open ao can fill in a you rule off

[@purelocoloco]

Lime

[@Lee-xs4dj]

And if it's not plumb, they sigh and carry on hahaha

[@PlasteringForBeginners]

😂😂

[@stuart310]

Sheen finish paint is risky with soft plaster. Id have primed it first with green grit or before the modern products sbr and cement mix painted on to it prior to hardwall. Nice finish though.

[@dabin88]

Now they don't and dab it