No cutter grinder? No probs

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Stevohdee

Stevohdee

Күн бұрын

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@someguy1508
@someguy1508 3 жыл бұрын
Good show sir, you can’t argue when it works. I dragged an antique tool and cutter grinder home one day for $50, don’t be too impressed though it is far from in good shape. Thank you for sharing.
@fishermanyt8187
@fishermanyt8187 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite part was "setting the relief angle" with the bent threaded rod and a drill bit :), that was awesome ingenuity, you know for us home shop guys this will work fine. Nicely done.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for your nice comment, yeah we make do a lot don't we, cheers
@geoffakers6359
@geoffakers6359 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 Hay even us pro's make do just get the job done
@TradeWorks_Construction
@TradeWorks_Construction Жыл бұрын
Why does it feel like I got taken for a ride by the “no cutter grinder, no problem part” … ? I guess technically he didn’t have a dedicated cutter grinder but i don’t know if having a dedicated grinder post for your lathe classifies as fundamentally different 🤨. But I Enjoyed the show all the same!😅
@MariaTeresa-gk2lk
@MariaTeresa-gk2lk 2 жыл бұрын
Excelentes. Trabajos maestro ingeniería. Pura felicidad es
@andrzejporeda7281
@andrzejporeda7281 3 жыл бұрын
Bardzo świetny filmik na jutubie i bardzo świetny pomyśł z tym wiertłem do betonu i tak z niego Powstał frezownik do metalu pozdrawiam twórcę tego filmiku i tego kanału na KZbin 👍👍👍👍
@fredfarnackle5455
@fredfarnackle5455 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent job! I've got a 20mm cutter that needs similar treatment - you've given me hope. 😎
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, let me know how ya go , cheers
@CH-pt8fz
@CH-pt8fz 4 жыл бұрын
"Necessity the mother of all invention". Thanks for sharing, at first this looks very sketchy but you've done a fine job. And I love the music.👍
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your nice comment... Cheers
@taxicamel
@taxicamel Жыл бұрын
I trust you have determined it is not worth the effort/work involved to figure out and execute ....unless of course ....you've all the time in the world and are satisfied with the end result. The actual cutting edge is not "jointed" ....meaning, very likely only one edge is actually providing the finished cut location and finish. This is one reason supporting replaceable inserts. .
@adriankingston4338
@adriankingston4338 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see somone sharpening tool bits ive met tradesmen that think once a drill is blunt you throw it away 😂
@dominic6634
@dominic6634 4 жыл бұрын
Often its cheaper to buy a new one. Cost of my time vs cost of tool.
@dannys1532
@dannys1532 3 жыл бұрын
What a great lesson in sharpening. Thanks. Where can I buy a 40 x 2mm diamond grinder disc?
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 3 жыл бұрын
Gday Danny, yeah just search eBay for 40mm diamond disc 8mm shank will find it, cheers
@ferb7452
@ferb7452 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done I really love the backing stiffer on your demond wheel they never run true
@lfoggy3061
@lfoggy3061 4 жыл бұрын
Good job. Your lathe, with the indexing attachement and the toolpost mounted spindle, makes a decent approximation of a cutter grinder....
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks foggy
@RedDogForge
@RedDogForge 4 жыл бұрын
You magnificent bastard! Well done :D
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 4 жыл бұрын
Very creative. I might have been tempted to grind an angled corner rather than a sharp one, for strength and finish, but you did good.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, buy angled do u mean round? Because I'm toying with the idea of rounding the points like a lathe cutter.... Hmm
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 rounded or angled will give a stronger corner, especially good for roughing cuts. Keep sharp cornered mills for finishing, if you need to cut a sharp corner. Although it is best to try to avoid an unnecessary sharp corner as in some applications it can become a stress raiser but frankly that is unlikely to be a problem as most home shop stuff is over strength to start with and is unlikely to be over stressed.
@gangleweed
@gangleweed 4 жыл бұрын
From the final finish shot, it seems like you forgot to angle the front clearance into the centre of the cutter......that is to enable the flutes to cut on the outer edges when you are side milling and keeps the centre of the cutter off the job........this gives the cutter end face a concave effect. I can't give you 10 out of 10 for this as you used an adjustable wrench on a machine.....that is the sign of a hack merchant not a machinist, but I would grudgingly say quite clever overall.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian, I did wonder about that angle, just checked a standard cutter & yes you are right, I will re-cut & see if I can get a better result. As for the spanner I really need to let the moths outa my wallet & buy one or 2, cheers
@gangleweed
@gangleweed 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 OK....you're forgiven.....my hats off for the ingenuity.
@NOTSOSLIMJIM
@NOTSOSLIMJIM 4 жыл бұрын
Makes hand sharpening drill bits look easy.
@geoffakers6359
@geoffakers6359 4 жыл бұрын
You need to test the cutter on the Z axis plunge cutting as thats the cutting points you sharpened . To achieve the same finish just sharpen 1 point and grind small releff on the other points this will turn the cutter into a small fly cuter run fast on alloy with fine feed and you will get a brill finish. also diamond wheel on only Hss cutter is ott . 5 stars for the idear and I love your cutting head.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoff, I'll give that a try, cheers
@honeycuttracing
@honeycuttracing Жыл бұрын
What is that grinder wheel you using called 🤔 and where can get one?
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 Жыл бұрын
Well i call it "the beast" coz its so aggressive. Try ebay, diamond wheels, 40mm x 3mm thick, 8mm shaft, you should find it
@nicholasogden7187
@nicholasogden7187 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to the electric motor and ER collet holder that is attached? I have a similar one but the shaft is too small and it deflects a little too much for my liking.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 3 жыл бұрын
Gday Nicholas, the motor was from a friend that does robotics, "unkermotoren BG42X30" made in Germany. Er16a collet chuck from ebay, they come in various shaft sizes. I've since upgraded tool post grinder, watch my vid TPG 3, the bearings in motor too small for good results, hope this helps, cheers
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 2 жыл бұрын
Your edges would last far longer if you did a 2 angle grind. A 2 to 5 degree "edge clearance", then about 10 more degrees (so 12 to 15) "relief". Get your edge clearance about 3mm wide, then back it with the relief. Puts more "meat" behind the cutting edge, so far more support than your ski slope relief, lol. Yours works, so it's not like "you done it wrong!", but more support equals longer edge life. But, that said, sweet job of improvising a working tool out of a well abused "junk" cutter, using somewhat less than ideal tooling!
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your info, i never sharpened a milling cutter before so just went for it. Another commenter pointed out that i had the wrong angle at the points so i studied new cutters and went dam, i missed that. So its been a real learning curve, thanks again, cheers
@yuriidemchenko9216
@yuriidemchenko9216 3 жыл бұрын
Ну, разумеется! Подумаешь, нет заточного...токарный ведь всегда под рукой! У всех и каждого.)))
@HansFormerlyTraffer
@HansFormerlyTraffer 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had your rig. Just starting out and no dividing head ...no tool post grinder yada yada. Just a mini lathe. BUT I sharpen everything myself. I do it free hand with a dremel tool and diamond wheels. Not the fine stuff like reamers...that requires a different rig but still doable by hand.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Hey traffer, I've hand sharpened milling cutters the same way with fair results. I put the cutter in the drillpress and face the end by pressing down onto a diamond plate then regrind the edges with the side of a 20mm cutoff wheel. Is this what you use? Or a straight shank burr?
@HansFormerlyTraffer
@HansFormerlyTraffer 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 That's a great idea. But nope. I do it freehand with the dremel in one hand and the bit in the other. They don't come out looking very good but with trial and error you can sneak up on having them even and straight. ...mostly 2 flute endmills. I do the 4 flute but they end up looking really bad...but work for some applications.
@tonycstech
@tonycstech 3 жыл бұрын
Thats more like a resurface rather then sharpening.
@iguanapete3809
@iguanapete3809 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get that tool post grinder?
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 2 жыл бұрын
Gday pete, people make their own grinders because the commercially availiable are for larger lathes. Ive done 3 vids on home made units, the first 2 show what doesnt work, "TPG 3 third time lucky" is a solid unit that works well. I suggest a high torque variable speed motor coupled to a substantial bearing block is the best solution, best of luck, cheers
@aleksiheikkila4456
@aleksiheikkila4456 4 жыл бұрын
are you trying to drill in to the grinding wheel when sharpening the faces? :D
@VSE_SVOIMI_RUKAMI
@VSE_SVOIMI_RUKAMI 4 жыл бұрын
Отличная работа!!!
@kurtler1
@kurtler1 9 ай бұрын
3:31 что такое факинг тхэ схарп битс евен?
@DolezalPetr
@DolezalPetr 2 жыл бұрын
very sharp now, nice
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, its actually my favorite cutter, the cheap stuff doesnt leave a great finish and goes blunt easily
@rubarb0406
@rubarb0406 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, how does the English smidge compare with an American skosh (we stole this from the Japanese . . . skoshee)?
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Well Gordon, thanks for such a technical question. Smidging is the universal term for minute adjustments regardless of one's region in the world. It is an acquired & required instinct for anyone playing with machinery, there is a fine line between yippee & grrr. Over Smidging will produce the grrr so I recommend sneak Smidging. You can always under smidge but over smidge @ your peril... Cheers haha
@rubarb0406
@rubarb0406 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 Thank you for that in-depth response. You have established a cultural bridge between machinists in England and the US. However, we are jealous of your beautiful freehand scribing!
@gangleweed
@gangleweed 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 ....and if you want to take off a small amount its a smidgeon.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
@@gangleweed thanks Ian, just googled it, a smidge is the informal term for smidgen, which is spelt without the 'o'... Who knew? I've been calling it a smidge forever, may be an aussie thing but you are correct, haha cheers
@gyrogearloose1345
@gyrogearloose1345 4 жыл бұрын
Well you know there is also the "hair" and the "titch" ne c'est pas? Or is it "tidge" along the lines of tidgen? Which is which and what to do? That is the question only the hands can know . . .
@keithslayback4626
@keithslayback4626 4 жыл бұрын
the vise you're using on the mill did you make that can you give a better picture of it
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Sure Keith, just dial in stevohdee to homemadetools.net, it's in there somewhere, cheers
@sirotcipateb1
@sirotcipateb1 4 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. I'm surprised you were able to obtain such a good surface finish with such a wide cutter on your Mini Mill. My Mini Mill struggles to do face milling with even a 1/2" end mill. Did you do anything to improve your mill's rigidity?
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, I have only adjusted the gibs, nothing fancy. I've noticed with milling there's a speed & feed rate that suits certain cutters & a whole lot of info about material. Near the end of the vid on the last pass I slowed down the power feed a 'smidge', which produced a better finish. Fussy little machines. So adjust gibs, experiment, watch lots of machining videos & have fun, cheers mate
@chiefauditor1683
@chiefauditor1683 4 жыл бұрын
I knew you were in Australia. Recognised the green waste bags
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Aussie, Aussie ,Aussie...dam , I've been outed haha
@fredfarnackle5455
@fredfarnackle5455 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 Mate, there's no way you could be anywhere else with the descriptive comments you put on the vid! 🤣
@ВикторКуликов-ш4о
@ВикторКуликов-ш4о 4 жыл бұрын
Ну вы ребята молодцы! А я до сих пор напильником затачиваю...
@ВикторПетров-р8ъ
@ВикторПетров-р8ъ 4 жыл бұрын
Да,да чем крупнее напильник тем лучше и острее
@aubrymacielpereirafilho3017
@aubrymacielpereirafilho3017 Жыл бұрын
Aprovado Valeu muito obrigado!!!.
@FERGIOMARIA
@FERGIOMARIA 4 жыл бұрын
ottimo lavoro bravo
@mrayco
@mrayco 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely video
@smacknives754
@smacknives754 4 жыл бұрын
Nice save on the end mill, is the two piece vice a homemade, or store bought job, Steve?, I've thought about making one for my X2, because I've only seen them down to 6'' wide. Thanks, Scott.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, vice is home made, there's detailed pics on homemade tools.net, just search stevohdee, cheers
@smacknives754
@smacknives754 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 Awesome, thanks, Steve, I'm in the process of making hold downs for my new screwless vice, woohoo, no more cheapsh!t mill vice, and I can see a homemade two piece in the works.
@FERGIOMARIA
@FERGIOMARIA 4 жыл бұрын
hello great job. where can i find the diamond cutter?
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Gday Giovanni, Search eBay, 40mm diamond grinding discs, this will find both types I used, cheers
@stevethompson3664
@stevethompson3664 4 жыл бұрын
you don't need a diamond cutter as it was HSS he was grinding. Diamond wheels can be used on hss but usually for Carbide!
@RedDogForge
@RedDogForge 4 жыл бұрын
Tell me about that indexing plate...is that a lock hasp i see?! Man we need to hang out lol.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks RDF, yeah looks a lot like a pad bolt or slide bolt, haha cheers
@aSpyIntheHaus
@aSpyIntheHaus 4 жыл бұрын
Quite tidy indeed!
@stevethompson3664
@stevethompson3664 4 жыл бұрын
or you can send your broken dull endmills to me and i will resharpen(for example) that 1" end for around $10 each. HSS or Carbide I recondition almost any machinist tools. J&A Grinding ventura ca 93003
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, just calculated the postage from South Australia to California, kinda doesn't work but thanks anyway haha
@stevethompson3664
@stevethompson3664 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevohdee8118 Sorry i had no idea, thought you might be local . , 7 to 8 degrees on the primary angle(cutting angle) and double that for secondary with about 2 degrees taper to the center. You did just fine , nice job!! GOD bless
@angeloogden9102
@angeloogden9102 4 жыл бұрын
I touch them up with the bench grinder at work all the time..lol nice
@o.jmusic9815
@o.jmusic9815 4 жыл бұрын
@o.jmusic9815
@o.jmusic9815 4 жыл бұрын
Rrrrŕr
@o.jmusic9815
@o.jmusic9815 4 жыл бұрын
Rrrrrtrrrrrrr
@o.jmusic9815
@o.jmusic9815 4 жыл бұрын
R9r
@o.jmusic9815
@o.jmusic9815 4 жыл бұрын
Rrrrtŕrrrrrrrrrŕrŕ
@Tule54
@Tule54 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job done with that cutter ! 👍👍👍
@Joe-b6i9i
@Joe-b6i9i 8 ай бұрын
my saw company only charge five quid to sharpen them properly its just not worth the time
@pradith1
@pradith1 4 жыл бұрын
Excelente, soy tu nuevo suscriptor 👍
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks fernando
@paytonmac5665
@paytonmac5665 4 жыл бұрын
relief angle 3 to 5 ?
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, about that I recon, I just set it with the drillbit under the tool post grinder block to set angle, cheers
@maurodeiana1838
@maurodeiana1838 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic whork fantastic tools👍👍. Amazing homemade ✌️✌️✌️✌️ Bravo 💪💪
@cschwad559
@cschwad559 4 жыл бұрын
The drill bit relief creator, dbrc for short.
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 4 жыл бұрын
Haha... Nice
@damarcastro768
@damarcastro768 4 жыл бұрын
Muito bom seu trabalho abraço fique com deus que deus abençoa todos nós
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Жыл бұрын
Bravo
@airdave1961
@airdave1961 3 жыл бұрын
you can do that with a piece of wood
@chattonlad9382
@chattonlad9382 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@ogaugeclockwork4407
@ogaugeclockwork4407 4 жыл бұрын
4:40 - what on earth are you wearing? Oh it’s a cat...,
@tanpreet32
@tanpreet32 4 жыл бұрын
can do it with bare hands.....
@eddiekulp1241
@eddiekulp1241 Жыл бұрын
Better than nothing i guess
@ДмитриЕсауленко
@ДмитриЕсауленко 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@SgtKong
@SgtKong 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I love me some diamond abrasives
@kingozymandias2988
@kingozymandias2988 4 жыл бұрын
No, no, noooooooooo.
@sebastiaomartins4816
@sebastiaomartins4816 3 жыл бұрын
Andre reznte
@davemcnair1569
@davemcnair1569 4 жыл бұрын
even if it hadnt worked it was still cool
@kevinplowman8982
@kevinplowman8982 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think u no the right way to do it do u
@kevinplowman8982
@kevinplowman8982 3 жыл бұрын
cut som steeel now bet i dont
@yavuziscen5151
@yavuziscen5151 4 жыл бұрын
Avuç taşlamayı ders çevir
@yavuziscen5151
@yavuziscen5151 4 жыл бұрын
Yada aynayı tornanın
@jorgepereira3134
@jorgepereira3134 3 жыл бұрын
Muita moagem pra afiar perde muito tempo
@stevohdee8118
@stevohdee8118 3 жыл бұрын
Het Jorge, o tempo é meu para desperdiçar e este é agora o meu cortador favorito, saúde
@ennaw3491
@ennaw3491 4 жыл бұрын
Ciao, Ciao bambino
@airdave1961
@airdave1961 3 жыл бұрын
ur cutting aluminum.big fukin deal
@joseantoniobarrocama
@joseantoniobarrocama 4 жыл бұрын
va dormir
@elh3809
@elh3809 Жыл бұрын
das vid ist umsonst und deine arbeit auch.
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