No Easier way to make a box.

[@Bluuuz]

10:51 There’s another reason that bits can come loose - as I found only recently. When you put your bit in, before tightening the nut to finger-tight, lift the bit up by 2mm. The collet is also pushing down slightly as well as squeezing against the bit. If the bit is firm against the base of the socket, the collet can’t apply the same level of pressure on the bit.

[@startmaking1]

Brilliant advice Roger. Thank you. I had no idea. I better check that I do this too as mine slipped again the other day.

[@vulgarwoodworks]

Excellent work as always Mark. Any project with repetitive tasks where the end result is supposed to be "square" is rought with peril, and you've done an exceptional job reassuring us makers it can be done with patience rather than elaborate and expensive tools. Coincidentally, I'll be taking the opposite POV in my next release, but it's all in good fun😂😂😂

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Jered. I love hearing other people's views. It's what makes this fun. Plus we are at entirely different ends of the skill spectrum. So I can't wait to learn something. Or at least have fun watching.

[@Workzwood]

Another video with plenty of information and no unnecessary waffle your box turned out lovely

[@startmaking1]

Thanks so much 😊

[@BustedKnuckleWoodworks]

Well done as always Mark. As I like to say, you are qualified to do anything with nothing, and you came pretty close this time. No way would I have attempted this with a Kreg jig and circular saw, but you pulled it off beautifully.

[@startmaking1]

You are a good man Lee. Thank you. The next build video, if not a workbench will be how to do this with even less tools. Not sure why, just fancied trying it. For all of the haters who comment 'I could make what you do if I had all the tools you do' . And yes I did get these comments when I was in the shed with no power. Got to love people. Always interesting. Hope you are well.

[@projectrebuild908]

Lovely looking box. What a great 1st commission.

[@startmaking1]

Thanks bud. I have spent so long afraid to do any custom work but as it was my close friend I thought that it would be a good starting point. Ended up not charging as I get a video out of it so win win.

[@projectrebuild908]

@startmaking1 well I hope the recipient loves it for many years to come. Great video

[@charliethebubbles]

Well done, it shows we a little thought and the right tools you can achieve anything. Keep them coming.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you . Very much appreciated.

[@Bluuuz]

Great video, Mark. I recently made a box (dice tower) and made a bit of a pigs breakfast of it because the wood I used was way too thin (about 8mm with 4mm rebate joints) for my skill level. It left no room for the multiple mistakes I made. I got there in the end but vowed that I would try again with thicker wood. I also made the mistake of cutting to ‘perfect’ dimensions from the start, so lots of spares needed along the way. I basically realised I was trying to do some fine woodworking whilst my skill level is still, er, let’s say ‘improving’. Thicker wood will allow me to master the joints and techniques before trying to be to fancy.

[@MilmoWood]

Try cutting the top & bottom rebate before cutting to rough size length to. This means routing one long piece rather than four small pieces. Makes it a little safer & easier. You are then left with just needing to cut the end rebates. Hope this helps & I'm not sticking my nose in. Mistakes are learning opportunities. We all make them. It's a great way to grow your skills. Like Mark says, just start making. Have fun.

[@Bluuuz]

@@MilmoWood advice always welcome. Thanks

[@startmaking1]

Hi Roger. Thicker wood certainly makes it easier but a more delicate box is very appealing. It's all about practise I guess. Nothing wrong with trying to do better than your best. Thats the only way of knowing the moment when you can do it I guess.

[@nore8141]

I liked the top of the box. Will definitely try this for my own future projects ❤

[@startmaking1]

It was a lot of fun. Although, my fingers still hurt from all the sanding.

[@thomasmcglynn5353]

Leaving extra wood remains me of an old woodworking teacher use to say Leave it as long as possible for as long as possible

[@startmaking1]

Oh, I love that saying. Thank you Thomas.

[@joentexas]

Good one; I'll have to write that down, Thanks.

[@Damon_Barber]

Good morning, Mark! THANK YOU for sharing this! 50-60 boxes and not a single one square - this gives me hope that I’m not the problem!! 😂😂 I definitely need to make a crosscut sled for my table saw and that seems like that will help a lot. Test cuts. This is something else I need to get in the habit of doing. I have plenty of scraps/wood at the moment. Lots of great advice and the video is only halfway through!!

[@startmaking1]

Hey bud. Hope you are well. to be honest, square is not as important as we make ourselves feel that it is. At least not with boxes. More so with houses and carpentry I guess. I find that nothing ruins a project more than the pressure we put on ourselves to reach a certain level. Drives the fun right out of it. I have a table saw finally and dont think I will use it until I have a sled or at least a good mitre gauge. It feels like a machine to be respected.

[@Damon_Barber]

@@startmaking1 great points! It would be nice to be able to have my sides meet without gaps or my top fit without needing to sand a corner of the box down. But, you are right! Just have fun and “Start Making”!! The Table saw is definitely a tool to be respected. Losing focus for a second is all it takes to have an accident and those spinning blades do not care what they are cutting. Gotta maintain focus and maintain pressure in the three key directions… and on top of that you have to be aware of what your wood is doing on the other side of the blade. I’m extremely grateful for the advances in safety like riving knives and push blocks and push shoes. (I just learned the difference of these from Izzy Swan’s video).

[@startmaking1]

I watched the same video. His new push thing is amazing. Probably way to complex for me but it looks amazing.

[@ScottDaviesCwrwHaf]

If you leave the squeeze out about an hour its at peak easy to remove - when it goes rubbery not fully hard. Great videos thanks ☺️

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Scott and thank you for the advice. Always appreciated.

[@zapa1pnt]

Mark, as always, a display of talent, imagination and quick study. 👍 One point, in regard to panel edge joints: Always use as many clamps as you can, as tight as you can, and give no thought about squeezing out all the glue. It's Not gonna happen. Be sure to clamp the joint flat. Glue is best spread with a brush. A thin coat is all you need (on a good joint). You will have less squeeze out to clean up. (it is good to see squeeze out, but a little) Squeeze out can be cleaned away, with a pail of water and a brush and wiped with a cloth, before it dries. There is then no need to scrape (a PIA). The paint scraper is best used to correct someone else's work and, of course, scrape paint. Cheers. 😁✌🖖🖖

[@startmaking1]

Firstly, as always thank you, you are always so kind and complimentary. Secondly , great advice, And of course it is easier once left a while. In a way I feel I knew that but was in such a rush to keep going. Great to have someone remind me of the better way, so thank you for that. I seem to always over glue too. I think I need to readdress my glue bottles. The gluepot is good for precise but maybe a ketchup style diner bottle for larger.

[@zapa1pnt]

@@startmaking1: The Gluebot is a good thing. I have one myself. For larger surfaces, I use the Titebond bottle but one like you mention, a squeezy condiment bottle, with a good cap, would be easier to open and close. As I mentioned, a brush is best, but Not the best brush. A cheap "chip" brush, from Walmart is perfect (they come in an assortment pack 5 or 6). Not foam. I don't like the Silicone glue brushes. Nice idea, but doesn't pan out. Keep it in water as you work, then rinse and dry, when done. Use the size you need, for what you are doing. It will last a very long time. And yes, clean up with boxer shorts. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I hope you procure those After the laundry is done. 🙄 😁✌🖖

[@startmaking1]

look. Agree on all points bud. and I can confirm that the shorts were clean.

[@expatmoose]

As a newbie (ok been playing with wood since covid)that’s just getting into boxes more than anything else I found this very interesting, so much so I subbed, hope to learn more, thank you

[@startmaking1]

Hey, thats great to hear, thank you. Ive been at it around the same length of time really so we are in a similar boat. I hope the videos are fun and help a little. there is another box one coming out in a few weeks that is more versatile let's say. Should be a good one if I ever get it finished.

[@expatmoose]

@@startmaking1 that gives me time to play video catch up👍🏻

[@martinthorp7609]

Nice looking box with an interesting top. Might do a bit of "experimenting" myself. I had a similar experience with a router bit. I was doing a round over on my workbench when the router bit decided it didn't want to play anymore. Router bit shot out of the collet and hit the floor so hard it broke into two pieces! I consider myself very lucky not to have been hurt that day, fast moving router shrapnel and fleshy bits don't mix🤔

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Martin much appreciated. I love just experimenting. Probably my favourite bit of woodworking, no plans, just start in one direction and follow what you decide on the hoof. Kind of like how I built the workshop lol. And wow, 2 pieces, that sounds scary. Well done for not getting got. More good luck though I guess.

[@martinthorp7609]

@@startmaking1 I think the god of sawdust was looking down on me that day lol, certainly made me check and double check my router every single time I've used it since 👍

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

Hi Mark hope you well, a nice build project. I like the idea of cutting twice for the perfect fit the contrasts of the two woods work well together with the finish. I was gutted for you when the router bit came through wood I can't imagine what was going your mind. As always a good build and a great video, catch you soon Take care👍

[@startmaking1]

Hi Shaun. Thank you. I was a little worried when I saw it poking through I have to say. Just very lucky on 2 counts, 1, no injury, and 2 excess wood so I didn't have to start another piece. More luck than judgment. Thank you as always, take care bud.

[@anthonyseiver7000]

Small boxes are always good tests of skills because it is impossible to hide errors, beyond trimming off the excess to remove faults.

[@startmaking1]

That much is true. Probably why it took me so many attempts to get a square box lol.

[@John-d4x3e]

Beautiful!! Will even make a piece of wall art.

[@startmaking1]

Lovely idea for wall art. Thank you

[@GeometryBuild]

Thank you for sharing wisdom! I am building a box with just one square angle and I’m gonna need those tips! Pre sanding is a waste of time - looks like it 😂

[@startmaking1]

Hey, you are welcome. Love your videos. Can't believe I spent so long sanding all the inside to just glue more wood to it. Hey ho. Live and learn.

[@GeometryBuild]

@@startmaking1 Thank you! Yesterday I was fixing a miter and used tape to cover up everything else - looks like a good way to eliminate glue stains. That’s my main issue right now. I was hoping pre finishing it would work - but nah.

[@mondujar279]

Very cool project, I am a beginner woodworker but learning fairly quickly! I am going to try to make a similar box but will need to start smoking cigars.

[@Bluuuz]

😂

[@startmaking1]

Brilliant. Thank you

[@paulbrant-hl2xo]

Mark, It's great to be back, I liked the box's, I'm not a box making man but this one I am going to a bash at it: Regard's, Paul

[@startmaking1]

Good to have you back Paul. Boxes are an acquired taste. But I find them a nice place to try out some simple techniques and some beautiful wood.

[@raydriver7300]

Great video with clear explanations. My supplier deals in oak and sapele too; maybe we get our wood from the same place? Here’s hoping 2024 is healthy and successful 🌞

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Ray. I get mine from tools and timber. used to have a different name. In truth I have not looked elsewhere due to time and they seem to be good quality. Appreciate the kind comment and good luck in the year to come.

[@bhartissimo]

I watched that Pask video as well, but forgot all about it. I've gotta remember when I make a box. Thanks.

[@startmaking1]

It's so simple. Though, if I had a band saw I would maybe use that.

[@Greyotterstudio]

Love this video Mark. Glad to see the handmade Moxon Vice is still getting use! What a stunning box too. Looking forwards to the "not all the tools" version too!

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Alex. Now I need a nice workbench to build on. That bar was raised this morning , thank you for that lol

[@derekhawley9660]

Your videos are just PLANE genius 😀, thanks Mark

[@startmaking1]

lol, briliant. Thank you.

[@billffromnh]

A great looking project Mark. And the finished box looks professionally done. I don't make many boxes myself, but I like the tip of cutting the lid off with the elevated Ryobi. I also liked how you use marked one side with two dowels, so the lid is put on properly. I might have ground a slight finger divot somewhere in the bottom edge of the top & top of the box wall. Your way does look more like a maker's make. I don't have a die grinder, but I like how you carved the top panel. It adds another element of design. Didn't you do a somewhat similar carving on another project last year? I'm sure your friend was pleased with the completed box & so was the man he gave it to. You never can tell, but this first commission may lead to you getting others. Time will tell.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Bill. Very kind. The dowels were an improvised idea because I could not make a square box for so long and it made sure people didnt get the lid wedged. The divot is a great idea and one I will implement for sure. Thank you as always.

[@booyaa1851]

Watched to the end but didn’t check to see if there was any of “those” comments. Good video again. Liking your content mate

[@startmaking1]

Thank you. I am a little surprised. Thats said it has only really been shown to subscribers so far. Usually get those comments if the video is played to a wider audience. Time will tell. I hope I am wrong to be honest.

[@torque9889]

I have this exact makita router and this happened regularly to me until I really extra tighten the nut. Ruined several decent boards using it as a router sled. Now no issues.

[@startmaking1]

thank you for letting me know. I thought I may be on my own. I will give it some more torque lol.

[@stuartmathie3872]

Hi Mark, Glad I have found your channel. I have binge watched the videos as I do with a new channel and I like ur take on wood working, there is a fine line to tread between being a beginner (which one seem to be until you get the expensive tools 😂) and becoming un-relatable as unfortunately seems to be the natural progression of a maker, double-edged sword is progression! Anyway keep up the good work👍🏼

[@MilmoWood]

Once you start selling pieces (I'm sure you will), that money can be invested in new tools. That's how I got most of my tools. Mark does make great videos to learn from. It's a great channel.

[@startmaking1]

Thanks bud.

[@startmaking1]

Welcome aboard Stuart. Hope the binge has gone well. You are right too. I am currently growing my tool collection very slowly. It was tempting to get them all at once but that would have been all wrong.

[@stuartmathie3872]

I have an idea for you, guys are flattening boards with a router sled, why don't you try make an electric hand plain sled!

[@malk1275]

very cool box

[@startmaking1]

Thank you. Much appreciated

[@markduggan3451]

Great video, I really liked the lid.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Mark. Much appreciated

[@ianpearse4480]

Nice one Mark. Loving the lid. Off to make a topographical representation of Cornwall for a lid. Lol. Or is it a pattern? Like the cutting the lid off technique. Almost idiot proof, but bet I could cut my finger easily enough. Oh, been there, done that. Steri-strips here we come.

[@startmaking1]

Now a map would be a fun experiment. Maybe not with sapele though, real pain to sand. The lid technique is a mistake avoiding one for me but if you look closely the blue tape around my finger is where the pull saw did its usual trick.

[@ianpearse4480]

Pull saws will do that won't they! @@startmaking1

[@startmaking1]

sadly.

[@penchant4]

Nice video; and the jump cut of you coming in close to camera is a subtle homage to Mr. Curtis' video style. Keep up the good work...in the shop and the edit bay.

[@startmaking1]

Finally someone noticed. I nearly got a coffee cup and placed it in the foreground. Thank you

[@penchant4]

@@startmaking1 I should not have been surprised, had you done; but really enjoyed the subtlety in what you did.

[@startmaking1]

@@penchant4 thank you.

[@williammaxwell1919]

Nice box. The contouring of the top is something I'd like to try on AU Hoop Pine plywood draw and cupboard fronts... sort of like a topographical map

[@startmaking1]

Hi William. Thank you. I think that would look really nice. Take a look at what @ENCurtis did on his. The cabinet is just lovely.

[@wsherratt5159]

Hi Mark, great advice and content as always and an introduction to the die grinder. As a Makita nut I’ve just added it to my birthday list. That was a great first attempt at carving and the end product spoke volumes of time taken to attention and detail. It also led me to thinking of inserts using Intarsia. As a woodworker this appeals to me as I never throw away even the smallest off cuts of wood. Take a look at the range of books on the subject and the plans they include. They’d make great inserts. The plans and diagrams can all be reduced in equal dimension to fit. Carving, now that’s on my list to have a bash at. Cheers mate, W

[@startmaking1]

Hey Wayne. Thank you bud. It is a cool bit of kit. I would say if you have the chance, maybe look into the corded one. The battery on this lasts about 20 mins 5ah. Maybe 30 tops. Which is fine for small jobs, less so for bigger work. Inserts would b very cool. I keep most of my hard wood offcuts. It's a problem and a blessing depending on whether you suddenly need some. Carving is something I would love to do more of, I may need an angle grinder and some discs next birthday. Could get messy .

[@wsherratt5159]

@@startmaking1 Hi Mark. Thanks for the advice re the corded option. I will go with that as swapping out batteries (and the additional weight they add) could be tiresome when you’re right in the middle of stuff. I’m going to try and turn a lidded bowl on my small lathe next. I might just do a fancy carve on the lid. Here we go! W

[@startmaking1]

@wsherratt5159 that sounds awesome.

[@jimrosson6702]

Great video as always and great tips Thanks for sharing

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Jim as always. Much appreciated.

[@chriscollins9717]

Nice work Mark. By a weird coincidence, I'm sitting here waiting for my shed to warm up to go and start making a box or two. Thanks for some timely reminders on technics 😂

[@startmaking1]

I waited a loooong time for the workshop to heat up. Like all day. Still, was lovely to get out there once it got into double Celsius figures. Enjoy bud.

[@themeat5053]

Great looking box! Nice project for the new year. I noticed that after your explanation of how you glued the exterior sides of the box to allow for movement, you then glued the interior lid guides completely to the sides. Will there be a problem ( I think not ). Where are the Start Making shirts? I'll buy straight away. Cheers, Mark!

[@startmaking1]

Hey Meat. Thank you as always. Interesting point on the wood movement. Im not 1005 but my thoughts are that as the grain is all running across the box, including the inner pieces of sapele that I added to hold the lid on, I assume all movement is up and down so to speak and so I hope the box will all move together. I did say when I sent it that although ti would look nice on a shelf, not to put on a radiator as I was not 100% how it would act contracting quickly. for years I looked at projects getting ruined due to wood movement. I made 4 end grain chess boards, sanded by hand and with a drill attachment. Literally days of flattening and sanding. They all cupped massively. I was devastated. It was that day I decided to go down the route of making videos rather than selling online. As I was terrified that I would send away sold items and they would come back with complaints. At least bad videos lead to interesting conversations. lol. Hope the shoulder is still heading in the right direction bud.

[@themeat5053]

@@startmaking1 Mark, you've made an heirloom piece, no doubt. Of course, if you had to explain to the user that he/she shouldn't put it on the radiator, then, maybe they shouldn't use it as a humidor. It was a lovely piece and you should be proud. Also, be proud of your instructional abilities...we enjoy watching.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Meat. Apologies for the late reply. And also for not replying to the email yet. PS great recommendation.

[@themeat5053]

@@startmaking1 Now worries Mark, life drives on.

[@dak9860]

Kia Ora Mark Happy New Year to you and your whanau. Funny I’ve got electric planes and been looking at buying hand planers.. Just saw what your using.. Cheers keep the projects coming.. Ps picked up some Black walnut and white oak and cherry as well.. That box’s just gave me a project cheers..😊

[@williammaxwell1919]

Kia Ora. Look up Wood by Wright or Rex Kruger if your thinking of getting into hand tools.

[@startmaking1]

Kia Ora bud. Great to hear from you. Happy New Year. Electric planers are great in my experience for removing wood. And removing it fast but hand planes are so much more. Not that I am an expert but they are more precise and so much more rewarding. That said, if I want to take off 3 or 4 mm from a piece of wood I grab the electric planer. My hand planes are mostly all refurbed from rusty old ones that I get cheap , not sure there is the same abundance where you are sadly. But if you come across a number 4 or 5, grab it and just have some fun cleaning it up and see what you can get out of it. Black walnut, with oak and cherry are a lovely combination. You can't go wrong there in my opinion. Cant wait to hear how it goes.

[@startmaking1]

spot on William, I second this.

[@FearsomeWarrior]

Time for a front face vise? Curious why it wasn’t a priority. Fantastic video as always.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you so much. You know the vice is a funny one. The moxon vise was one of my first videos and as such I seem to be far too attached to it. But a work bench is coming and a new bench deserves at least one method of clamping. What to choose is the issue.

[@FearsomeWarrior]

@@startmaking1Paul Sellers style with an Eclipse 7 inch!

[@startmaking1]

@@FearsomeWarrior thank you. I will take a look.

[@anthonygriffin3147]

Happy New year rkid grate vid as usual I can't say out about tools I'm on ebay every uther day looking for cheep tools iget passed off with sanding it twist my Mellon man love your vids rkid👍👍

[@startmaking1]

Happy New Year Anthony. I am the same with market place. Luckily I dont really know what I am doing or I would have run out of space a long time ago.

[@MilmoWood]

Great video & nice box. Could I advise using a guide when rebating the narrow edge.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you bud. Do you mean like a mitre gauge. I actually have one for the table but am still not sure if it gets better results. It is safer though.

[@MilmoWood]

@startmaking1 it makes it safer. A narrow edge can wobble easier, that could lead to the wood being thrown across the room (hopefully with no fingers). Yeah, like a mitre gague. It supports the long side. Similar to how it would be used on a table saw, band saw, etc. I loved the rasping tool. I haven't seen one of those before. One for my birthday lol

[@startmaking1]

@MilmoWood that makes perfect sense. Thank you. The die grinder is a beast. Great at removing wood but like a router it can run away from you if you go with the spin so to speak. Fun though.

[@ianmurray3820]

Gotta say Mark that heavy cut with that massive plane looked brutal….. I use a 2000 grit wet and dry paper for the final grind and then the strop… followed By a smear of wax on the sole of the plane courtesy of robcosman.!! .. the difference is night and day…… “ sharpening tips hey.! - everyone’s got one..!!!😂😂😂

[@startmaking1]

Yeah Ian, that was me at my laziest lol. Your advice is spot on. I have gotten a little lazy in the new workshop with sharpening, meaning I think I need to adjust my layout to allow easier reach to the kit. The wax on the sole is only second to a strop for the best advice out there in my opinion. When I did a video about it people told me it was not necessary, bonkers.

[@ianmurray3820]

@@startmaking1 same as lubing The rails on a track saw.! Technically you shouldn’t need to but a quick smear of silicone or wax makes them so much smoother and nicer to use, less likely to go wrong too! When you’re not putting all of your weight behind the saw/chisel/knife/drill……………!!!!!. P.S. lucky break on the “ battling tops “ router bit situation.!!! Your next project could so easily have been an Ebony eye patch.!! I take it no leaks on the rubber roof..??.😁💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@startmaking1]

So very true. Luckily I wear a face guard. though it doesnt feel all that thick. Not a leak so far and so much rain has fallen. Im not too worried about the rubber itself I just worry about the ground around the edges of the building getting water logged and the slabs moving but that could just be my paranoia.

[@michaelwillson6847]

Nice to aee u back M8 what a stunning build that turned out to be. Honestly apart from would say maybe the dye grinder a think thats certianly open to anyone although looking forward to you doing it with minimal tools. That dye grinder looks like nice new toy sommit ive fancied for a while and those burrs look amazing you do no you can get different grit abrasives on them? Corse med fine etc?? Catch up soon. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

[@startmaking1]

Hey bud. The die grinder is a lot of fun. I kick myself for getting cordless. The battery goes, maybe 20 mins. The burrs are ridiculous. I feel like I need to do a die grinder review because the collet size was a pain but once I got a collet to take it from imperial to metric it was a great tool. The burrs are a little pricey but something I will build up slowly. I have 2 course and 2 fine, to be honest they all cut fast. Chat soon.

[@michaelwillson6847]

@@startmaking1 yea a must say they look allot of fun. Your just a grinder wheel for the angle grinder away from power carving bowls now then?? Although suspect you'd be able to hollow out say a platter with the burs. They do look like fun a must say ave looked at corded ones but haven't been able justify getting one yet I'll get there eventually. You should try reaching out to kutzal see if they'd sponsor a review video. Ad certianly watch the dye grinder review video. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍 Speak soon.

[@contessa.adella]

Beautiful, but a labour of love to be sure. If you had to price these for the time and effort expended even at say £11/hour min wage, the lid sanding alone is 80 quids worth! As a gift though…it is a treasure.

[@startmaking1]

This is very true. the sanding was bonkers. I think if I was to try and sell this I would find a better way to get the sanding done. to be honest in the next video after this one I made another patterned carved lid and the sanding was far less. The holes were not as deep. But sapele is not easy for this as the grain switches up so often.

[@AncoraImparoPiper]

Thank you for showing that a table saw is not absolutely necessary in woodworking. I've never needed one. Sure, there are times when it would have been good to have one, because it would have made the job at hand a lot quicker and probably more precise, but so far I was able to get by well enough without one and I do not plan on purchasing one. I can find other ways to achieve the same results.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you for a lovely comment. IT certainly does make you more inventive. I bought one a few months ago as I need to start making larger things for around the house etc. But I am yet to take it out of the box. I dont really know why but so far I haven't been all that excited.

[@robandsharonseddon-smith5216]

Great work thanks

[@startmaking1]

Thank you very much.

[@63rml]

Try sprinkling sawdust on your freshly clamped joint and let it sit for 45 minutes, it drastically reduces smearing.

[@startmaking1]

What a cool idea. Thank you

[@paulmaryon9088]

Great video thank you, keep up the good work

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Paul. Very much appreciated.

[@BuckWezr]

Sub'd I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Really like your tempo, videography, and the way you blend a quick pace with content of value. Oh, and huge props for recognizing other makers, ideas and idioms in the ways you did here. One of my quickest "Subscribe" decisions in a few years. PS: I almost NEVER click on vids titled with this like, "most _____'s don't know," etc. Thank God for lazy clicks sometimes, huh?! Lol

[@startmaking1]

Hi. Thank you. really kind comment. Very much appreciated. PS sorry about the title. I hate using them but when a video stagnates after 20 other, more factual titles, I have to try something more enticing.

[@jamesmcc5147]

Good to see you back, Mark. A happy new year to you and all subscribers. Nice box that Im sure was well recieved. Regarding the cutting of pieces, you recently showed us the new table saw you bought. Have you had the chance to use it yet?

[@startmaking1]

Hi James. Happy New Year to you too bud. And thank you. I am told he loved the box. Whether it is still in one piece, I will never know. Funny you mention the table saw. I find myself dragging my heels on getting it set up. I really want to do it right and find myself inert a little by this. If that makes sense. I want to build a workbench for it to live in that will become the centre of my making and filming. But I only have so much space and dont want to make the mistake of filling it. At the moment I can waltz around the workshop but only have a tiny workbench which is a big problem. But I dont want to need space and not have it. And so you see my issue. I want t permanent place for the saw as that way I can feel confident using it and I know I will get a lot out of it and also, how much to put into the bench, all out build costing hundreds or a 2x4 and ply basic. Time and patience will tell I guess. I am a firm believer that when I need to make it a decision will come. Kind of like the workshop.

[@jamesmcc5147]

Thank you Mark for such a lengthy reply. My workshop is smaller than yours so I have to have the table saw as a separate unit on a portable base that I can roll under a bench top when not in use. Using the work bench as an outfeed surface is a nice option if you have the space. Heavy duty castors on the bench would allow you some flexibility if you did need extra space once in a while. Anyway, if you can build a whole workshop, this will not be a problem. All the best.

[@startmaking1]

Thank you. I appreciate the confidence. Part of me is looking forward to the build. I found some great castors that are removable so I dont trip over them. Not cheap mind you.

[@matthewryan9323]

Happy (belated) New Year, Mark! Get any good woodworking tools for Christmas? ;)

[@startmaking1]

Hi Matthew. Happy new year to you too bud. You know what, I had a great book of tips and tricks that will get tested for future use. And lots of tartan shirts. They seem the staple of any woodworker. How about you.

[@matthewryan9323]

@@startmaking1 I got a number of smaller things, including a book on woodworking that I'd seen recommended on someone's YT channel, a couple of side and top bench clamps, my first GlueBot, a small Kreg hole drilling jig, and a large (1 meter-ish, maybe a little more?) straight edge. I'm probably forgetting one or two things, but I'd already purchased all the "big ticket" (relatively speaking) items myself this past year, like the Kreg cross-cut jig, a router, a miter saw, etc. Once the weather warms up in a few months (I can't wait), and I can work out on my balcony again (since I live in an apartment), I'm looking forward to getting back to a couple projects that my son did in Cub Scouts that I've also gotten the wood for - a toolbox, and a "strong box", that I'm doing "nicer" versions of with e.g., a random orbital sander (instead of just a random hand sanding, lol), and wood staining and poly finishes, etc. Since I don't have any planes to do jointing, I've been debating pre-staining all the pieces (otherwise, the stain runs everywhere through all the openings that are going to be left), but then I've got to pre-tape all the areas that are going to end up being glued together to prevent those from getting stained, so I've been going back and forth on what to do. I may try the pre-staining with the toolbox first, since it's a simpler assembly, to see how painful it is to do...

[@startmaking1]

That sounds like a nice haul. I know what you mean about the weather. I feel lucky that I have the workshop now but before that I was always a little frustrated that the cold would keep me out of the shed for so long. Im not sure what is better regarding the pre stain either. Finishing is a huge hole in my experience as I tend to keep stuff natural and use either hard wax oil or lacquer. I hope the builds go well bud.

[@worstworkshop]

We need a new way to attach router bits. How long have we been doing it this way??

[@startmaking1]

That is a really good point. One with a solid lock. Like an impact driver bit.

[@worstworkshop]

I think I even have a design. Wish I knew somebody that could make it happen.

[@startmaking1]

I wonder if one of the makers who like to experiment would consider it. Someone like Izzy Swan or Andrew Klein. Or maybe even Katz Moses. But you would probably end up giving most of the revenue away in these cases.

[@peterjohneggleton2011]

Hi Mark, could have been nasty with the router bit coming loose……I hope everyone learns from this and wears the right PPE. Great vid as always. Hows the costs going?

[@startmaking1]

Thank you Peter, I have all the figures put together and bullet points written. a little extra wording needed then I can film. then edit and release. Not long now.

[@brucewelty7684]

I notice the blue tape on the finger! Did the pull saw bite you?

[@startmaking1]

It gets me every blooming time. Like it is personal.

[@nialstewart8263]

That's a lovely looking box mark. You said there was 6 hours 😳 of sanding in the lid, how long do you reckon the whole thing took?

[@startmaking1]

Thank you. Yo be honest I have just made a second one similar to this in the hope to fine tune the technique. The rest of the build is no more than 2 hours really as I have everything set up how I need it. But even my second lid was a nightmare in sanding. Those burrs are great at removing wood but the finish is rough, I need a dremel really. Also sapele is a pain to work on like this as the grain goes all over the place. The second lid took around 5 hours in total so a little better. Hope this helps.

[@nialstewart8263]

@@startmaking1 Thanks for the feedback.

[@johnrobinson1020]

My boxes are always 100% square... but I do tell fibs.

[@startmaking1]

lol, brilliant.

[@D-B-Cooper]

I am a retired designer and this is my stab at being constructive. Now that you have made a square box design one to the golden ratio and also draw one in perspective and then build it in the perspective. Playing with optics and optic illusions is a monumental leap. Try to avoid anything that can be done with an auto carver and when you have some time research zentangle.

[@startmaking1]

That was very constructive. Thank you.

[@markpullen61]

This I will try once I'm in my new man cave 😂

[@startmaking1]

I look forward to hearing how you get on bud

[@brucewelty7684]

Please get a router with a 1/2" collette. What you just had happen is endemic with 1/4" ones. I had open that the bit fully ejectected! That, Sports Fans, is a factor 10 pucker event.

[@startmaking1]

10 pucker event. Love it. And yes seeing the bit come through the wood was exactly was you describe yours, except mine never got spat out. I can't imagine how that would make me react. Maybe a week off woodworking to recover courage.

[@DavidEdwards-e6m]

You have an uncanny resemblance to Roger Taylor, the drummer from queen, great tips thank you

[@startmaking1]

I will take that as a huge compliment even if I cant see it lol, Thank you.

[@DavidEdwards-e6m]

@@startmaking1 your accent and looks, although your voice is a little deeper, have a great day

[@startmaking1]

Have a great day too bud.

[@rolobalb]

Where can I buy your used boxer shorts?

[@startmaking1]

I missed this comment. Lol, thank you.

[@millsvalleycrafts]

I'm assuming by "rebate" you mean rabit?

[@ChadTolkien]

Table saw is cheaper than hand planes here 😢

[@startmaking1]

That is a great point. And in truth it can be the case here too. I didn't really think of it like that. I was lucky, my planes were mostly bought vintage in restored so fairly inexpensive. I guess the other reason people can go this method is that a table saw can be a little scary. I agree one and it is still in the box.

[@30dayride67]

LOL, Nah, I'm pretty sure it's me that screws it up too frequently.

[@startmaking1]

I'm definitely my own weakest link too. But in this case I think this technique gives me the best chance

[@dallasarnold8615]

This method of lid removal was taught to us in high school wood shop in the late 1960's. I am very disappointed. Was hoping for something new and innovative.

[@startmaking1]

Sorry to disappoint. As it was 60 years ago I guess it is worth showing it to a new generation who may not have been taught it.

[@gojufish]

I bet 100% of me doesn’t know this

[@startmaking1]

lol. Trust you. Hope you are well bud.

[@xl000]

Don't take advice from someone who has a router table with a t slot at 8:01 and a full workshop, and almost freehands the piece of wood while talking about precision Could be related to the fact that his t slot is in 2 pieces for some reason. You have a t slot on a router table for a reason. It's even worse because the piece of wood is really much wider that it's long

[@startmaking1]

t track in 2 pieces, is this an issue. Im not sure. Freehands, I used a piece of scrap to push it through. I assume you mean use a mitre gauge. I find mine ends up doing a worse job as the bit either pulls the board off line if I dont use the fence or if I use the fence it snags much like if you use both on a table saw. But the point I really need to question is the first. Dont take an advice of someone who has a router table with a t slot and a full workshop. Full? are you serious. Anyway, I have to thank you for this comment because I was starting to worry that after 23k views nobody had criticised me. Didn't feel normal at all. And I was waiting for the all the tools comment. This is as close as it has got so far. Thank you.

[@millsvalleycrafts]

I'm assuming by "rebate" you mean rabit?

[@startmaking1]

Is it rabbit?