No Experience to Remote Cyber Security Engineer

[@TechTualChatter]

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[@farrenperry5550]

What's the name or link to that program she talking about

[@nathanmahoney-sw2lh]

It's important to note that Projects count as experience. and although you may not like certs it count as "experience" if you can finesse it. She right though, I did a Phishing email cybersecurity project, with known company that we use day to day, that i was able to flex during an interview, and they are calling me in to meet the team but we'll see. Great interview nevertheless

[@ttvmikrowave]

Congrats brotha for that is the way to go. Truthfully, with enough experience is how you can brand yourself as a SME allowing you to charge billables higher than most engineer or analyst roles. Especially, if you know how to configure the security tool from pre-prod to prod in and of itself so others can leverage it.

[@TechTualChatter]

@@nathanmahoney-sw2lh I agree projects can count as experience but some people don’t have the right projects to add to a resume. Certs don’t count as experience especially if you can memorize the material then pass it. What did you really learn?

[@TheTntwilliams]

Unless the certs are practical like OSCP and BTL1

[@SophiaLearnsTech]

She gave a complete masterclass on how to transition into tech, in general, without a experience. Congratulations on your accomplishments & success!

[@mbaracisse8284]

I’m so hyped she’s a great person!! Also shoutout to her mom for holding her down

[@derickmcmillian]

“Girl idk, the cyber one?!” Is gold 😂

[@TechTualChatter]

🤣🤣

[@christaho2368]

I met her a a conference in Atlanta, she’s dope for sure, glad to hear about her success 🙌🏾

[@TechTualChatter]

Yes she was very cool to work with

[@DevTalksTech]

Thank you!!

[@cece5758]

You are so correct! A job is a relationship and I’m learning you have to treat it as such.

[@TechTualChatter]

Agreed

[@SpaceTacos60316]

THANK YOU for saying the thing that most people do NOT want you to say!!!! I am here for the paycheck and then fell in love with the industry and sincerely feel like i found where i fit in!!! 🎉❤🎉 I love being a GRC nerd 🤓 😊

[@DevTalksTech]

I'm sorry I'm country, y'all. 35 people have messaged me to ask about the program I mentioned. It is called "Clicked" lol.

[@TechTualChatter]

@@DevTalksTech 😅😅 it’s not you it’s the captions

[@TheMissJazell]

This interview was sooooo inspirational & informative. Her personality & mindset is def the icing on the cake 💕

[@TechTualChatter]

Glad you enjoyed it 😊

[@kendallarmand7192]

A lot of folks from the medical field are blazing a new trail in Cyber and going the hell off too ✊

[@ajrienwoodley-reed9107]

Dropped alot of gems! Great interview 👍🏾

[@TechTualChatter]

@@ajrienwoodley-reed9107 thank you 💪🏾

[@YusufBarry]

such great advice and very inspirational

[@elvintrusty88]

First....great interview, and I'm always impressed by those individuals who put all the excuses aside and made it happen. Keep up great work, and all you've both done is drive home what I've been telling myself to this point....that there's more to do!

[@TechTualChatter]

You got this 💪🏽

[@DaniUnfiltered]

Crazy how I work at a charter school in NYC as a teacher and also want to transition into cybersecurity. I realized teaching isn’t for me . Hearing her story and our similarities is mind blowing. Also have a bachelors in biology 😭 if she could do it I could do it .

[@TechTualChatter]

@@DaniUnfiltered ayeee let's get it‼️

[@acenoboogie6826]

46:36 are you saying clicks? I’m trying to find it 😂 great interview btw

[@DevTalksTech]

Clicked 🤗

[@Michael_ATL_82]

​@DevTalksTech Thanks for the clarity. I literally checked the CC,Closed Caption, to see if I heard it right. Great video.

[@KennyLewis-cr9vv]

Great interview thanks for the clicked info

[@kensondortelus5190]

Great interview @TechTualChatter!I listened to the entire interview and got a lot from it. I’m also in the medical field, specifically in physical therapy. I’m in the process changing career to cybersecurity. I started with the CompTia A+ and passed it in August. I’m currently studying for the security+. My plan is take security+ prior starting a bachelor’s program in spring semester in computer systems networking. Can you please list the organizations she mentioned on the video for me, that way I can look into them. I kind of had a hard time hearing the names when she mentioned them lol. I would really appreciate it if you can list them for me. Thanks in advance!

[@TechTualChatter]

I don't know all of the organizations listed outside of clicked

[@ctCJ]

Glad she gave a shout out to Last Mile. They helped me with my tuition for the last semester of my Computer Science degree.

[@TechTualChatter]

Yeah me too!

[@StormyBeLife]

HD, another great interview! 👊🏽

[@TechTualChatter]

🫡🫡🫡

[@topcyberdawg]

Good episode right here!

[@Tamara_YT]

You guys are saying a lot of nurses are doing it for the check (I agree with that sentiment but thankfully it's not most of us), however, there are also a lot of other factors for minimal or lack of care unfortunately. Just to give perspective as a nurse who worked in a nursing home-the ratio of nurse to pt in general is 1:20-30 patients. Plus, you have to chart, deal with emergencies, find time to pee, maybe eat, dealing with everyone that's calling you on the phone, getting verbally and physically abused and still show up in your room like none of this happened. Just providing perspective. Ok back to tech 🙂

[@TechTualChatter]

@@Tamara_YT trust me I understand I think things like that are when someone fixes the operation portion of the job especially being understaffed. It’s giving “greedy” from the owners of the nursing homes

[@Tamara_YT]

​@TechTualChatter You got it! There are staffing issues everywhere in nursing bedside care, but the nursing homes have always been notorious for their ratios. Those CEOs make a lot of money and in my experience the staff resources and patient supplies are minimal. It's bad but just wanted to remind everyone that some people can do things for money (not me but I've worked alongside those people) and still do the best job possible but are still limited due to the constraints of their job situation as well.

[@ezedoesit]

Loveeeee this episode! so inspiring! I too have had many jobs ha, but I haven't worked in almost 4 years. 4 kids, including 9 month old twins, and my husband is filling in the gaps like crazy. So when I have to study and do things, he has the children. I've found a great mentor (have a focused roadmap) and there is no IG or social media on my phone. just LinkedIn lol -- I already have a Masters so I'm not going back to school, but definitely feels like I'm in school right now. Going to a women in Security event on Tuesday. You also put me on to Kenneth Ellington and I will likely join the academy in the beginning of the year. These are amazing, thank you!

[@ezedoesit]

I'm wondering the same about the "woman with children" hiring bias. esp since I've been at home. but I doula'd for almost 3 yrs, so if anybody worrying about call, baby I've done it. babies come at any time of the night.

[@TechTualChatter]

Perfect ❗️❗️❗️

[@candicanejane1146]

Enjoyed the interview. I have my BS in Biology also; I taught highschool & college as well lol.

[@TechTualChatter]

@@candicanejane1146 ahh that’s cool!

[@ReginaldJohnson]

1:12:15 That prison is ALCATRAZ

[@sowelldonetv6475]

What’s the two organizations names she named on the end? Spelling

[@ianwilliams6013]

GRC is mostly policy roles. Some ISSO roles may involve technical duties.

[@TechTualChatter]

@@ianwilliams6013 I’m seeing more and more grc roles looking from previous technical experience as well

[@ezedoesit]

what was the program she did projects with, clicks? cliques?

[@TechTualChatter]

@@ezedoesit check my recent LinkedIn post. She added the info there

[@DevTalksTech]

it’s clicked 😄

[@3athagiant413]

what's the name of the free project company she said ?

[@mikep9862]

Great interview. What is the certificates that you mentioned at the end that are around 10k? And you interviewed for a 300k job that wanted them. Thanks. Keep up the great work

[@TechTualChatter]

SANS

[@KingFish-ci9pu]

They have bridge programs for a reason

[@Michael_ATL_82]

Good video. Do you happen to have the link for clicks? I'm pulling up everything else but that site, lol. TY

[@TechTualChatter]

she typed it in one of these comments but the program is called "Clicked"

[@Chattahoochee_Chief]

ANOTHER ONE 🔥🔥🔥

[@sowelldonetv6475]

What’s the “Click” website she was saying she got her hands on training with?

[@TechTualChatter]

@@sowelldonetv6475 clicked

[@ishwaryanarayan1010]

I recently did ibm clicked incident response mini sprint program through Wicys , it’s awesome:) Great way to get hands on experience and team collaboration

[@darionjefferson9221]

The prison is Alcatraz! Or Rebirth Island lol

[@esjaigotdat1]

So would the cybersecurity projects on clicked be more beneficial to me than getting a certification? I already have my IT degree. My concentrations were information assurance and data mining.

[@TechTualChatter]

@@esjaigotdat1 yes but I would watch the full episode as well to get more understanding about this as well.

[@esjaigotdat1]

Great, thanks 👍🏽

[@esjaigotdat1]

Towards the end of the video, you also mentioned “if i had somebody to give me the play by play 10 years ago, id be so up right now”. In your opinion, what do you think is the play by plan for someone in my position.

[@TechTualChatter]

@esjaigotdat1 schedule a call with me and I got you I don’t really have time to answer you question in the detail it needs to be

[@ezedoesit]

Make cold brew, that’s the best way for iced coffee 😊

[@TechTualChatter]

@@ezedoesit elaborate

[@ezedoesit]

@@TechTualChatter Its super easy to make cold brew - Use a 32 oz mason jar and some coffee grounds. 3/4 cup grounds and fill the mason jar up (w/some of that fresh water from the machine lol) - let it sit on the counter overnight, anywhere from 6-24 hours. Strain the grounds. This is basically a concentrate but I just add 3/4 cup of the concentrate to a 16 oz mason jar, with some vanilla simple syrup to taste (I make mine, also super easy or you can buy some) and some almond milk, creamer, or milk of choice to fill up the cup. -- Cold brew is less acidic, so also easier on the tummy and it hits hard lol

[@ezedoesit]

alcatraz!

[@kendallarmand7192]

I've seen a range of not cert heavy Security Engineers and I've seen heavy cert'd folks. I got one called back out of the 10 engineer position I applied for..... HATE HATE HATE!!!!1 LOL NAH I'm joking this is all motivation. Networking is definitely something I need to tighten up on and dig deep into my passion "HOME LAB" DUANE LIGHTFOOT "LAB EVERYDAY". I feel like I'm fall down 100K steps right now.

[@CyberSiS]

That’s my guuurrrlllllll……I see you Devonie!!!

[@TechTualChatter]

how did you enjoy the episode??

[@650kdub]

Had I known better, I would have just focused on certificates instead of wasting 4 years on a degree that's just sitting under my drawer.

[@TechTualChatter]

Degree is still beneficial

[@650kdub]

No doubt

[@kendallarmand7192]

Being on call for women is kinda like a NATURAL SKILLSET IMO mom is always on call lol skill level on GRAND MASTER JEDI

[@MrTapout619]

Pay for teachers is not that bad anymore 😂. Every teacher at my son’s elementary school is breaking 100k annually. They have master degrees but for 100k it’s worth it.

[@TechTualChatter]

@@MrTapout619 lol must be a private school

[@RealNetworkP]

wtf teachers you know? They are definitely lying to you or teaching at a private school where Obama children goes too

[@kendallarmand7192]

cough PELATON!

[@wiibbz]

NOBODY js teaching for a check. That was dumb to say

[@TechTualChatter]

@@wiibbz yes they are..

[@DaniUnfiltered]

Not true lol. Current teacher here. Not saying I’m one of them but have a lot of co workers trying to get by while looking elsewhere

[@TechTualChatter]

@DaniUnfiltered right I know how to distinguish good teachers from the just show up teachers