No fixed address: Affordable housing is scarce in Toronto

CBC reporter Shannon Martin and tenant advocate Bahar Shadpour discuss the precarious life of a renter in Canada's biggest city
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[@samdrimakis6177]

I was born in Toronto and lived there for 40 years. I moved to Greece 23 years ago. I am glad I did. Why live in a city that has bad weather, and is so expensive to survive?

[@rickallen9099]

Doubt you're making much money there.

[@Jason-dv2ns]

Don't use terms like "couch surfing", call it what it is, homelessness... why live in a city that clearly doesn't care about making sure it's people have affordable housing...

[@PrinceJ20233]

Jason Longster Montreal is cheaper ... so is Germany.

[@kristenlonergan350]

Loads of luxury condos and apartment buildings are being built in Toronto, but this city doesn’t need more luxury stuff! We need affordable buildings!

[@stefanmeiners2950]

Our rent just went up by $500, moving to Montreal at the end of the month, so long Toronto!

[@juandiegas8211]

This is not just happening in Toronto. This is spreading just about everywhere.

[@barbaramatthews696]

Same is happening here in London ontario

[@Stoutaragua]

Sounds like Canada is catching a case of chronic debt-based economy.

[@facelesscorporation1668]

the economic disaster is looming...

[@SeanMacIsaac7]

faceless corporation Obviously. People are getting greedy, behaving ignorantly, and they're going to cause instability.

[@facelesscorporation1668]

Sean MacIsaac people? greedy old people i would have accepted...

[@jbmop]

Sean MacIsaac The people are not to blame. The low interest rates are the cause.

[@facelesscorporation1668]

jbmop ok, yeah, defend the bank and their bottom line, wallow in your puddle of liquid cash.

[@jbmop]

faceless corporation I think we can both agree banks have had record profits. They are corporations and all they care about is the bottom line. Regulations have been too lax and the central bank policy has been crazy. By no means am I defending banks

[@SandraNelson063]

I lived in Kensington Market and adored it. But I was on welfare and the area is now going up in price and I had to leave about three and a half years ago. I was lucky, I found someone to share a place with in Scarborough. We are both on disability. We are on a list for rent to income housing, but it will be years before we can have a place. Meanwhile the rent goes up and up.

[@angelosliotscos8405]

Drastic times call for drastic measures. I once travelled to Europe living in a Ford Transit van for 2 years. No rent to pay. I recommend you do the same in Toronto.

[@simpleravenraven6358]

It is time for a few thousands of us to march on city halls demanding affordable food and housing. Canada is rich but its not trickling down. If the leaders are not capable, lets get new leaders who can handle the job.

[@Psvr2player]

Exactly Slowly turning in to a 3rd world country.

[@trespasser121]

Where do you want that house, in Rosedale, Bridle Path? I'd think a bologna sandwich and a condo in Sarnia should be pretty affordable.

[@stevenrowlandson4258]

That would be Nazism and it is not currently a legal choice on the ballot. You will never get redress that means anything or works from the existing political parties or the courts because they are guilty. The government approves of white genocide in all its forms otherwise none of those forms would be allowed and they are because they are policy. They think that if they are subtle and tell lies about it no one will notice or complain about it untill it is too late. What is white genocide? It is the imposition of anything that results in a world with fewer white people especially as a matter of policy. It involves everything from outright murder, miscegenation, assault, psychological warfare, social engineering , deprivation of habitat by any means, population replacement ,prevention of births by any means and transference of children from one group to another by any means. Under the Genocide convention there are no social constructs or market forces as a defence against being charged.

[@lalaniathielen8917]

Steven Rowlandson tried copy and pasting your post to share with a friend but I was unable to... You sound educated and

[@russburton6262]

loser

[@ZenStarwalker]

I'm in kingston and its gotten horrible here, 1000$ for a small bachelor, 1300 for a 1bed, 1500 for 2 bed, etc.. for places that look terrible. my friend is on social assistance in a 3 bedroom with 2 other people on assistance and they can barely afford to eat even with the help from the food bank

[@gmac2558]

Rent in a building that was built before the early 90s and your rent can only increase by about 1.8% per year!

[@berkaydemirbas3841]

No, these urban professionals won't live in Wilson and Keele!

[@mc1rgene751]

It is also happening in the US. Seattle is building like mad (over 50 cranes up for almost 3 years), even will all the new apartments rents continue to climb with no rent control. Housing is un-affordable for all but those in tech. Little to no housing is being built for low income and seniors at affordable prices.

[@AlexSuperTramp-]

Wow, I thought Vancouver was screwed. No rent control for any condo build within the last 25 years is, what, 50% of condos downtown Toronto? Good luck with that.

[@zochbuppet448]

try...most condos downtown!.

[@stevenrowlandson4258]

I am a car dweller also thanks to Canada's genocidal real estate market. The perps must be brought to justice!

[@nascaracing9]

Time for a housing crash!

[@curtandoscar]

Hi folks. It is the exact same issue down here in the States where I live, both in all of the big cities, but even in cheaper, more rural states where I live like Maine. Portland Maine (population 60,000) has seen massive increases in rents the past 5-10 years that do not keep pace in any way with our new $10 minimum wage. My sister's rent for her 1 bedroom in a Boston suburb (with a 1970s kitchen and bathroom) as recently as 3.5 years ago was $1k a month. The same place goes for double this now. DOUBLE.

[@xqa2736]

That is cheap for Boston, too. I have seen $3,500 this past year. 1 bedroom, small.

[@shahanmughal7546]

What about the homeless? Where do they go?

[@arashghanbari5907]

Moved to Montreal last year. Rent and housing is dirt cheap here compared to Toronto. It would have been impossible for me to move out in Toronto but I made it happen in Montreal with relative ease.

[@new-knowledge8040]

I moved to a 3 story apartment building located in Scarborough. For the last 15 years rent has been only a $140 monthly expense. Each apartment has its own furnace/water-heater combo. It's a one bedroom apartment. Being poor, I have no mobile phone, and I use air antenna to watch TV for free. On a good day I get up to 50 free channels. The sad part is that I have to survive on an ODSP income of only $812 per month. That's about the same as though you worked 37.5 hours per week on a $5.00 per hour salary. Minimum wage in Toronto is $14.00, so what I get is about minimum wage divided by 2.80. That is why it is called the Ontario Disability Support Program. It is so low an income, that it supports disability, not people.

[@HunterMann]

No Fixed Address, sounds like it should be expanded to include homeless, and those who are living in cars, vans, campers in Canadian and USA cities. I just mean that the dialog needs to be expanded. In the USA some cities have an Affordable Wage or Living Wage. One of the first cities was Santa Monica on the coastal western side of Los Angeles. They looked at the basic reality that hotel & restaurant workers were unable to live near their work. Many commuting 2 hours each morning to travel to work by car or bus(a terrible urban transit system by the way.). They increased the minimum wage and it allowed people to rent closer to work. A win-win.

[@paultavares3125]

The reason that the rule in the 90s took effect was to promote developers to build new apartment building for rent only. The problem is the opposite has happened with condos popping up everywhere owned by foreign investors who are playing the system. The government can now bring in rent control for all buildings because the incentive obviously has not worked.

[@lominiski]

Sounds like the rent regulations has an issue of fairness.

[@parkerbohnn]

Ship everything that looks Chinese up to Iceland and the average igloo will cost about $15,000,000!!

[@joyhenderson3002]

While it's not cheap, I can still find about a dozen places in various parts of Toronto (NOT DOWNTOWN) where you pay 1500/less. I even found a couple of townhouses for $1600-. I agree rent and housing prices are out of control, but there are people who can't even swing 1650 with kids anywhere in the city, not just the core.

[@muCephei_]

Not to make fun of you, but you talking as if $1600 is affordable pricing just shows how ridiculous prices are truly out of control.

[@lucyfair6141]

it's beginning to be the same in Montréal. we move to the suburbs and our mortgage is lower than what we were paying in rent in Montréal. it's sad.

[@666mathew]

I own a condo in dwnt Montréal, and I'm not rich. It's a fraction of what it would cost in Toronto.

[@paisentheukegod]

you are a LIFESAVER for sharing that guy on the phone 1:02... that should be front page news and mandatory information before renting

[@trespasser121]

Professional.. everybody 's thinking of themselves as professionals.. because they work with their mouth and not with their hands? If a plumber makes more than you, you're no professional!

[@mlguy8376]

Why is it that I am renting a place off fort york blvd and bathhurst for 1725? I am guessing you can find places, but you jut not able to find it within 10 minutes of king and yonge. The word is not affordable, but also where you want to live - which sad to say is not affordable for you.

[@asadb1990]

people talk about moving to another city, but is your company allowing transfer to desired city. or are jobs easy to get in another city. in my experience applying for jobs outside of my current city is negligible i barely even get a response.

[@suvariboy]

The landlord e-mail you the rent increase. That's illegal. They have to use the proper form and it has to be either faxed and delivered to you in person.

[@Jayl__]

unless it's in your lease agreement that all notices are delivered via email and assuming they gave the appropriate notice form.

[@astrophysx7523]

There are bungalows on a street i used to live at worth over a million USD. My rent was $1200 for a studio apartment. And it was not even remotely downtown.

[@viajer2011]

Thank you so much for doing this...

[@pbreedu]

Canada is a big country. If Toronto does not work for you move.

[@zochbuppet448]

yeah. go to the Yukon...within a day you will find a job

[@christinaeaton8733]

Would you expect one to leave everything behind and to become isolated? This happens everywhere not just big cities. Where do you suggest?

[@JaBlanche]

Problem is the type of housing being built downtown and a lack of understanding by many. Luxury condos are being built everywhere. They are not being built for people with low income or minimum wage jobs. There needs to be more low income housing built and that is the responsibility of the government. Rent controls do not work! They just push up rents in the long run. Land is expensive especially downtown. The costs for an investor to buy and maintain a property are high and thus is reflected in the rent. There needs to be a bit more critical thinking here. Supply and demand will always dictate pricing. It’s simple economics. Need to deal with the supply side and maybe lower income earners should move out of the core or increase income. Why is this never a solution?

[@mardigbidanian7119]

Canada is at a risk of a housing bubble

[@Dr.Dumpnpump]

Keep voting liberal if you like high inflation!

[@shaantalk]

Any news since then towards rent control in Toronto ?

[@TechFollower]

Just one solution...don't stay in Toronto....move some where else where you can afford...no body going to help in this...really bad...but true...

[@batsandbatsandbats]

Even if you moved out of the city it costs money to commute, I lived in Mississauga and went to school in Toronto 10 years ago so I can only imagine what the costs are now. Factor in costs for the GO and TTC or gas and parking plus the extra 2 hours of time spent in transit each day. Your 40hr work day goes up to 50 and that's not always easily adaptable. I don't blame her for wanting to live close to her job, it's the laws around how much a landlord can increase that have failed her and I say this after living in BC for these last 10 years. This is showing that if it's hard to rent on her income it's devastating to the rest of renters that are making less. She's really trying to use her public position and give voices to everyone else's story.

[@johnnyberetta9533]

I became homeless last May. It took me three months of searching daily online (Kijiji rent ads etc.) to find an affordable place that would accept me and my small dog. I had to move 150 miles away out of Toronto, to a converted motel between London and Chatham. I am on pension and Toronto is just TOOOO expensive.

[@l.bilodeaupierre-r1456]

Gentrification is by design in North America. They well know what will be consequences for the middle-class and the poors. Sweet talk and hope programs doesn't make things changes.

[@DavInCan]

Moved to Canada and still the only hope is winning lottery

[@ihague4568]

There are tons of jobs in Toronto! There's a) real estate agents b) real estate lawyers c) mortgage brokers d) alternative mortgage lenders e) home flippers f) mortgage specialists g) home reno h) condo developers i) lease specialists j) Herold the mortgage closer k) Oliver the mortgage closer l) RE appraiser m) commercial leasing manager n) real estate loan officer o) condo development manager p) mortgage compliance specialist q) leasing consultant r) mortgage collection manager s) mortgage loan processor t) property manager u) real estate consultant v) relocation specialist w) mortgage title officer x) moving company y) landlord z) (and many more)...

[@ihague4568]

I think Tim's is hiring too.

[@topspykimi]

$900 increments means the land Lord wants you to leave. it would be better to be explained as a statement from landlord. 1600 can still find a good condo in Toronto dt. don't go too extreme

[@drewsykes8231]

welcome to the new 🇨🇦

[@hs961]

Foreign investors, that's who! Also there's no such thing as rent control or regulation! Some places around the world forbid foreign investors as well as rent increases!

[@kellyliu1210]

Have you heard of refinancing? Blame the banks!

[@angry-white-men]

Why no rent control, this is criminal.

[@emmapaignton4765]

I can't afford a house so I camp in a tent instead.

[@splintcell22]

I can't afford a tent so I camp in a garbage bin instead.

[@TheGozalus]

@@splintcell22 I can't afford shoes to walk to a garbage bin so I live and crap in the woods instead.

[@wendypatchett5957]

Rent review by the Government is needed

[@diskman3001]

Kathleen Wynne wrecked Ontario

[@rca6576]

My son is a Toronto paramedic, not a bad salary but, very long hours. He ended up homeless for a week and then rented a short term room while looking for an apartment. He finally found a basement apartment but, he is a shift worker and the landlord upstairs has three toddlers who run all day while he needs to sleep after night shifts. He can't move because there is no where reasonable to move to!! Toronto is HELL for those who are middle income and it should not be this way. I hope to god he can get hired full time outside of this city for the rich because those are the only people who can afford to live here. Nice city if you are wealthy. These young people are going where the jobs are but, they have no where to live they can afford. His 1st apartment there was a slum lord, dangerous conditions, second he shared a sublet but, had to get out after one year. Third this run down place in a basement with loud people upstairs. It's no life at all. Work and go "home" to a place that is awful. We live in Kingston . God I hope he can get hired away from this miserable city of Toronto one day. There is NO FUTURE there for low or middle income people.

[@Manny-gf9gm]

I know poeple moving from Canada because cost of living is sky high...

[@wjameswright]

Why are they not held to the rest of Ontario with rental increases? I do not care if it is on the water or not it should be equal across the board

[@barbaramatthews696]

I believe that if families can get along they should share the home with their loved ones during these difficult times. Sharing the cost of living would be much easier for everyone

[@ramairintake]

Problem is real estate prices, despite the crazy rent increases, 95% of all rental investment properties are a cash flow losing proposition...If condos cost over 500k to buy, 2k in mortgage, 700 in condo fees, 300 in property taxes. It's 3k a month in rent to break even, why would landlord charge under? they are not charities...

[@luckyone5451]

The average Joe has been pressured to move out of Toronto. The RENT $$$$ speak out loud !!! Unless the government slow down the foreign buyers, soon.

[@ihague4568]

What will save this bubble when it starts to turn? We can't exactly lower interest rates to save underwater buyers as we have done in previous bubbles.

[@keithsnider4402]

Stop foreign buyers from snapping up property.

[@tudvalstone]

I guess she is too classy to live in Scarborough, Etobicoke or the suburbs?

[@FacebookQueen]

Scarborough is also getting pricey. One bedroom and even bachelor apartments costing $1000 or more

[@jaworskij]

Affordable Housing Programs, sponsored by CMHC. I'll believe it when I see it. Right now, in Winnipeg, I pay 60% of my Income (CPP + EIA) on Rent. That's not including Hydro. The apt. I found, came after 10 months of searching, and is located in a "sketchy" part of town. I don't choose to live in this neighbourhood, despite the HUGE size of the 1 bdrm. Suite. I was threatened by my Public Guardian that "if you don't find a place by December 31st we won't pay $1200 anymore for Rent at a Motel".

[@alextoronto5840]

Don't live in downtown core. plenty of nice neighborhoods in Toronto outside of the core and more cheaper rent.

[@FstopPicturesByAlunDavies]

I was in this situation I've lived in Toronto and I now live in niagara again and it's a issue all over small town too

[@zzzzImTired]

Alun Davies it's scary. This is why I worry about the future. And when you run into trouble and can't afford a place any longer you become homeless and no one will help you. I might just live in a van one day or RV.

[@BaldWhiteguy]

solutiion: bring in more refugees

[@mckuv]

Solution: BUILD MORE UNITS

[@abhilash9153]

As long as city inspects and makes sure they are safe it is a good idea.

[@stevenrowlandson4258]

We have enough refugees and as a white man and a member of the race that founded and created Canada I can say that I have been turned into a refugee by government policies, real estate prices and low pay rates. We don't need to import more people, we need to stop turning our people into refugees and focus on creating conditions of life conducive to their obtaining a proper life style and family life through work, proper legal and policy reform and defending the common good. Part of that includes real estate price abatement and regulation.

[@stevenrowlandson4258]

That only works if you suppress home prices and outlaw price appreciation and real estate profiteering. Home ownership is good. Real estate as an investment is genocide under article 2 section c and d because it prevents people from living properly and results in family or birth prevention. Either way it is genocide.

[@ym6294]

If you people don't know it's a joke a funny one😂🤣

[@jatigre1]

Well someone has to pay for those glass towers

[@jeffc1347]

This is a crisis not only in Canadian cities but in the States as well. All the major companies decided they needed to be in cities to attract millennials and as a result now all of the desirable jobs are in big cities, so the demand for rent in the cities has sky rocketed. Mix foreign investors, NIMBYs not wanting more dense development, etc and you have recipe for working homeless people.

[@biffbifford402]

You want cheap housing, move to Cleveland, Columbus, & Cincinnati Ohio. You can rent a whole house for under $1000. Lots and lots of cheap housing.

[@fallenlizardbrain6893]

Biff Bifford the only problem would be the Afrojacks will rob or shoot you.

[@shauncameron8390]

@@fallenlizardbrain6893 What about West Virginia?

[@Eladore]

Get a roommate?

[@zochbuppet448]

yes if you are 21. its alien to most Canadians over 30. its only you guys that love living with random strangers

[@rca6576]

And there is a difference between getting "A" room mate and getting a responsible room mate. Not a partier, someone who pays on time, doesn't move their girlfriend/boyfriend in then want YOU out so they can take over the apartment. Room mates are not always the answer as there is zero stability that way too.

[@ianmcquade3561]

Try it yourself your out of touch.

[@rynosandburg7057]

Get a lover

[@MankindFails]

Rent regulation cannot work when buying prices are insane. You think someone will buy a million dollar condo and rent it for 500$ a month ? Not gonna happen...

[@crystialst3203]

the worst part they they didn't bring up is people's are destroying their credit to pay their current rent and falling behind on bills just to have a roof over their heads...than when they can't afford the rent increase they can't get a new apartment because their credit is bad. checking someone's credit to decide if they are eligible to rent should be illegal, and yes I know that it's not a requirement for the tenant..they have no choice additionally, landlords are getting there credit report illegally by using family and friends in the real estate business.

[@gjune36]

But what about landlords wanting to protect themselves from tenant who can't afford to pay rent in the long run. Would you ask them to risk their investment on a someone they know next to nothing?

[@crystialst3203]

G June36 as a home owner and past renter I can't tell you from experience that credit checks do nothing to insure that rent will be paid. now as far as risking an investment property on someone they know next to nothing about, they risk that credit check or not.. credit checks do not show past rental history or if the tenant has ever been in arrears in payment on rent, hence they are useless and prevent tenants that pay their rent from getting an apartment. moreover, the tenant is usually in a weaker position as witnessed in the above video. furthermore, becoming a landlord is risky in itself and if they as a individual are unable or unwilling to take on such a risk they inturn should not get into the rental business. I would also like to clarify that my above comment is more so directed at large buildings and condominiums but alas I cannot pick and choose therefore to answer your question plainly, yes, that is the business or rental management.

[@donnatrudeau889]

I live in Montreal, and rent here is also getting less and less affordable. Both Mr.Ford and Mr. Legault seem to have little or no concern for the needs of their own population. I used to live in Toronto and frankly ,I don't know how ANYONE does it , let alone single parents.....

[@shauncameron8390]

Due to the ever-increasing land values and property taxes along with people moving in.

[@shineshine1033]

greedy big banks are the problem. use small local banks.

[@cattameme]

And this is why the people IN Housing don't wanna get jobs.

[@Cre8tive81]

I something wrong with me? I don't understand. If you cant afford to live somewhere, leave. I live to the west in Mississauga... Also, that's why people get roommates. I don't know, perhaps its me. I'm now considering moving further west to Burlington or to Georgetown. I dont blame anyone, the market is at fault. Simple economics, supply/demand.

[@hopeodyssey]

The reality is you're homeless; Get your priorities right; playing Ostrich is unbecoming!

[@karr4291]

problem unfixable is unfixable, like san francisco i guess. so people ill afford are bound to forfeit places. what the difference b/w toronto and tokyo wherein still easy to find places to live despite the highest density all over the world? taxes? products? its government? or all?

[@barbaramatthews696]

Premier Ford placed a freeze on rent 2 yrs ago. He needs to do that again with cost of rent rising so high that it is putting people out on the streets or having to live in their vehicles He is all for the rich

[@JR-go6ci]

That's be not fair at all. It should be illegal to increase rent so much. Shame on the city and the government . Nobody should have to leave. Imagine how many of us are going through this ? I thought it's be just me.

[@ericdeangelis7496]

Yeah you can just TORCH Doug Fords house if you don't llike this... HE'S TO BLAME

[@jetixspeed]

It is 2021. Things haven't changed a bit

[@bobofett6573]

Ahhh... to be 20 again! If I was younger I would want to do this! Google AIRCRETE house!! BUT!! I'm 63 and retired. BELIZE looking good! Maybe Medellin, Columbia. Medellin just might be the best kept secret on the planet right now!

[@linlena901]

7 years later. how is everything now? better ?

[@nickel2442]

The solution is to live within your means. Allocate up to 35% of your after tax income to rent. If that means $1000 per month, find a roommate or live in a basement apartment.

[@fembot521]

Yeah if you want to live downtown. Move out of the City and commute. Scarborough and Go Train.

[@ronberman8947]

Vote for a party that supports 100% rent control no conditions...

[@shauncameron8390]

Which in turn means further housing shortages and no new building.

[@jasonn2284]

Vancouver is worst studios in downtown going for $2100.

[@MapleFanAhSa]

Shannon there is way here

[@a004]

can't afford it? move. if you want to live in a big city, you have to pay big prices.

[@shauncameron8390]

Exactly.

[@kevins6405]

Canada is the first destination for rich Chinese, expecting full rise on any real estate business in coming years

[@ronniemcintosh5192]

Thank the Chinese immigrants

[@rocwu509]

Ronnie McIntosh Calm down, and its none of Chinese' business. There are lots condo rental fee around $1,600 to 2,000 per month in Toronto. The only reason with this case is that lady wants to get a topic for her TV program.

[@Psvr2player]

Roc you are another fool.

[@abhilash9153]

Tax the vacant condos and homes.

[@Zorn101]

Good idea. let's raise the rents higher that way no one can afford them. Please tell me you are not nieve enough to think the landlord or owner will eat the cost of the tax? They can and will tack the extra cost on to the renter.

[@trespasser121]

For your job selling wireless also

[@DrX_1030]

Get a roommate

[@chaoticcreations1184]

She could, however addressing the issue would make more sense. I've turned down job opportunities in Vancouver due to cost of living, if things continue the way they are going Toronto may well find itself just as unaffordable.

[@cloudnine585]

I found the lady in red, very hard to listen to.

[@JusdoinstuF]

Why is noone talking about the jobs that can afford these rents?

[@shauncameron8390]

Namely urban professional jobs.

[@radagasdas]

Toronto is levelling up with New York and London.

[@rca6576]

Yes, without being NEARLY as interesting of a city as either of those two to boot. Sorry Toronto but, it's the truth.

[@shauncameron8390]

@@rca6576 Pretty much.

[@salmanalibhai9148]

Aren't they saying Europe's cheaper to live in?

[@8elladonna]

Why not move to the suburbs? Mississauga, Milton, Brampton, Etobicoke, Scarborough, Ajax... quite a few reasonable renting options in these regions. Basements going for 600-900, condos for 1000-1600 depending on number of rooms.

[@rca6576]

Commuting costs often eat up what you save moving out there if you work in the city.

[@olsza6969]

Ottawa is laughing from you guys:)

[@kpmmsupervision1297]

Move to the country. Build a mini house, container home. We don’t need to live to pay a home for 40 years. Time to push back. Life in small towns is amazing!

[@shauncameron8390]

No jobs or services there.

[@sikhtraveller8860]

Shame on canada

[@Srn1213]

Your cost for Carbon is past on .Rent control is not answer. Pay or move.